Recruiting The Drow War (Epic 3.5) [Archive] - Giant in the Playground Forums

paradox26

2024-02-05, 04:49 AM

I am running this game for the second time, though last time it was a gestalt PF1e game, and this time it is in the original 3.5 single track. Last time I ran this it lasted three years and the characters went from level 21 to 24, though the module takes you to level 30. Unfortunately, the prior game died a slow death in the end.

I will put the information about the module in the next day or so into this post, but basically it has been a war against the drow since level 1, so you would have an established hatred of them.

I have to warn that I am running a lot of games, so I tend to get to update them on the slow side, only every two to three days.

1. What game system are you running (D&D, Call of Cthulu, Palladium, GURPS, etc.), and if applicable what edition (Original, Classic, Revised, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 10th, etc.)?
3.5
2. What 'type' or variant of game will it be (i.e. "Shadow Chasers" or "Agents of Psi" for d20 Modern)? What is the setting for the game (eg. historic period, published or homebrewed campaign setting, alternate reality, modern world, etc.)?
Published module, the third in the series, each of which covers ten levels.
3. How many Players are you looking for? Will you be taking alternates, and if so, how many?
Samduke plus three others.
4. What's the gaming medium (OOTS, chat, e-mail etc.)?
Forums
5. What is the characters' starting status (i.e. experience level)?
Level 21
6. How much gold or other starting funds will the characters begin with?
Standard WBL
7. Are there any particular character classes, professions, orders, etc. that you want... or do not want? What are your rules on 'prestige' and/or homebrewed classes?
Any official 3.5 material is allowed.
8. What races, subraces, species, etc. are allowed for your game? Will you allow homebrewed races or species? 'Prestige' races or species?
Anything except drow is allowed, using normal level adjustment.
9. By what method should Players generate their attributes/ability scores and Hit Points?
Hit points are maximum.
Attributes are 10+1d8 seven times, pick the best six rolls. Roll the whole thing twice, and take the best set.
10. Does your game use alignment? What are your restrictions, if so?
Any alignment is allowed, as long as you have a reason to fight the drow.
11. Do you allow multi-classing, or have any particular rules in regards to it?
No multiclassing penalties.
12. Will you be doing all of the die rolling during the course of the game? Will die rolls be altered, or left to the honor system? If players can make die rolls, which ones do they make, how should they make the rolls, and how should they report them?
I will do mine, you do yours.
13. Are there any homebrewed or optional/variant rules that your Players should know about? If so, list and explain them, or provide relevant links to learn about these new rules.
One flaw for a feat. Two traits.
ELephant in the Room rules are in effect.
No pregame item creation. You can combine items at +50% of lesser cost as normal.
I don't want anything cheesy. So no using efreeti to get free stat bonuses for example. The game will be low optimisation.
14. Is a character background required? If so, how big? Are you looking for anything in particular (i.e. the backgrounds all ending up with the characters in the same city)?
Keep it skirt length. Have a reason to hate the drow, as the previous modules have you fighting the drow a lot.
15. Does your game involve a lot of hack & slash, puzzle solving, roleplaying, or a combination of the above?
It is a lot of combat, but a bit of a mix of all of the above, as it is a published module.
16. Are your Players restricted to particular rulebooks and supplements, or will you be allowing access to non-standard material? What sources can Players use for their characters?
Any official 3.5 material is allowed.

samduke

2024-02-05, 08:27 AM

@Paradox26
Standard WBL:975,000 gp

#13. Are Traits allowed ?

Attributes are 10+1d8 seven times, pick the best six rolls. Roll the whole thing twice, and take the best set.

Set 1:
1:[roll0]
2:[roll1]
3:[roll2]
4:[roll3]
5:[roll4]
6:[roll5]
7:[roll6]

Set 2:
1:[roll7]
2:[roll8]
3:[roll9]
4:[roll10]
5:[roll11]
6:[roll12]
7:[roll13]

paradox26

2024-02-05, 08:30 AM

Two traits are allowed. I will put that into the 16.

samduke

2024-02-05, 08:58 AM

Request
OA Shadowscout

are dragon/dungeon magazines allowed ?

paradox26

2024-02-05, 09:00 AM

Yes to all of the above.

BloodyMagpie

2024-02-05, 09:57 AM

Set 1:
[roll0]
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Set 2:
[roll7]
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[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

Whoops, messed those up. Lemme go redo those

Ancient

2024-02-05, 09:58 AM

Well, lets us see what the dice gods favor...

Set 1:
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

Set 2:
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

Set 2 Pls, am thinking Half Orc Ranger, a hunter of things deep and dark.

BloodyMagpie

2024-02-05, 10:01 AM

Try this again.
Set 1:
[roll0]
[roll1]
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[roll4]
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Set 2:
[roll7]
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[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

Edit: Okay, that's more like it. I'm leaning towards a Dwarven Paladin or Cleric.

Alhallor

2024-02-05, 10:25 AM

I normally don't apply to epic games but because this is low-powered I give it a try.

Set 1:
1. [roll0]
2. [roll1]
3. [roll2]
4. [roll3]
5. [roll4]
6. [roll5]
7. [roll6]

Set 2:
1. [roll7]
2. [roll8]
3. [roll9]
4. [roll10]
5. [roll11]
6. [roll12]
7. [roll13]

Rilem

2024-02-05, 10:26 AM

Planning to revisit Erut, a psionic Grimlock PC I had used for a play-by-post of City of the Spider Queen nearly 20 years ago -- just dug up the old emails and couldn't believe it's been that long. Would Psychic Rogue be allowed? It was official at one point, though it's long since been deleted from WotC's site. If not, I could always use Lurk or just a Psion/Rogue multiclass.

Set 1
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

Set 2
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

kinem

2024-02-05, 10:31 AM

I may not have time to make a sheet for this but I’ll see. I was in the previous game but I should be able to keep up better on the forum and with 3.5. I’m think to update a Havoc Mage.

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samduke

2024-02-05, 10:34 AM

paradox26

2024-02-05, 10:35 AM

Planning to revisit Erut, a psionic Grimlock PC I had used for a play-by-post of City of the Spider Queen nearly 20 years ago -- just dug up the old emails and couldn't believe it's been that long. Would Psychic Rogue be allowed? It was official at one point, though it's long since been deleted from WotC's site. If not, I could always use Lurk or just a Psion/Rogue multiclass.

Psychic rogue is okay if you can find a link to it for me to check it over.

EDIT: I have been directed to it, so yes the psychic rogue is fine. It looks like a nice class.

samduke

2024-02-05, 10:58 AM

I will build a Something - Edited

Thunder999

2024-02-05, 11:26 AM

Interesting, wonder if I'll roll well.

Set 1
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

set 2
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

Athaleon

2024-02-05, 11:40 AM

Count me interested.

[roll0]
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Can't complain about those rolls! No one hates the Drow like a Dwarf, so maybe some kind of Runesmith gish?

AvatarVecna

2024-02-05, 12:18 PM

Rolling...

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Feathersnow

2024-02-05, 12:31 PM

Interested as either a Duergar totemist+Cleric of Morgadin-> Sapphire Hierarch or an elven Noctumancer

[Roll]1d8+10/roll]
[roll1]
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[Roll1d8+10

[Roll]1d8+10/roll]
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[Roll1d8+10

Zarthrax

2024-02-05, 12:53 PM

Definite interest. I will avoid reading my copies of this to maintain separation of knowledge.

The third one, anyway. I'll probably reread the first two books for ideas...lol

Feathersnow

2024-02-05, 12:57 PM

[roll0]
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[roll2]
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Dusk Raven

2024-02-05, 01:34 PM

Nowadays I typically prefer Gestalt when it comes to 3.5, and I don't care for high-level play. But if this is meant to be low-optimization... that's a game I can definitely play. Now, to consult the dice gods!

Set 1:
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

Set 2:
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

Total 1: 12 14 17 17 18 18

Total 2: 12 14 16 17 18 18

...Well, I think I'll take the first one. That is an impressive set, and it'll work with pretty much anything I set my mind to. As for build... well, there aren't a lot of epic builds I've made, and the only one I can remember for 3.5 is a Psychic Warrior going into Psychic Weapon Master, (https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/classes/prestige/psionic/psychicweaponmaster.shtml) which is the best way I know of to make a scythe work. She'd previously been an Erinyes, but I can make it work as a human - the LA for Erinyes would be far too restrictive.

samduke

2024-02-05, 01:44 PM

Darius Vibrtrar

2024-02-05, 03:04 PM

Ooooh! Interested!

Dice Gods favor me!

[roll0]
[roll1]
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[roll4]
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[roll7]
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[roll13]

Low Powered indeed!

I've really wanted to roll up a sublime chord, I think I can do this!

Talivan

2024-02-05, 03:32 PM

Rolling my sets:

set1:
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

set2:
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

EDIT: So triple 18s, hurray!!, Will run a Rogue build or that will be my first option

Feathersnow

2024-02-05, 04:08 PM

Yas392

2024-02-05, 04:21 PM

Let's see what the dice gods offer.

Set 1

[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

Set 2

[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

watupwithdat

2024-02-05, 04:37 PM

I'm a bit intrigued what low op epic looks like, so why not. Suboptimal Druid here I come.

EDIT: So triple 18s, hurray!!, Will run a Rogue build or that will be my first option

That's quadruple 18.

watupwithdat

2024-02-05, 04:42 PM

Had a vague memory of being able to edit in the dice rolls, but seems not.

Set uno
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

Set dos
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

boj0

2024-02-05, 06:31 PM

I just can't help myself from a high level game about fighting Elves, before seeing rolls, I'm thinking either a Paly/Ranger, warblade, or some flavor of orcish berserker

[roll0]
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samduke

2024-02-05, 08:17 PM

@paradox26
RE:

13. Are there any homebrewed or optional/variant rules that your Players should know about? If so, list and explain them, or provide relevant links to learn about these new rules.

No pregame item creation. You can combine items at +50% of lesser cost as normal.

what this does not exactly cover, I will ask about.

Can I take an magic item , reverse engineer it to see what things cost like, (IE grants you the Combat Reflexes feat) - would you allow that?

and following that up there is a sidebar that makes mention of adding a feat to an item for 10k - would you allow that ?

Darius Vibrtrar

2024-02-05, 08:27 PM

also, epic spellcasting, can we have crafted epic spells before game.

Aegis013

2024-02-05, 09:39 PM

Interested.

Set 1
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

Set 2
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

18 / 18 / 17 / 15 / 14 / 14

Dusk Raven

2024-02-05, 11:36 PM

Well, I've been beat out in terms of "person with the best stat rolls" but I still really like the array I've got. I do have a question, however. Is Dragon Magazine content allowed on request? Specifically, the Improved Combat Reflexes (https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Improved_Combat_Reflexes) and possibly the Greater Combat Reflexes feats. (https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Greater_Combat_Reflexes) They're not essential, but I am going to be getting a lot of AoOs thanks to Psychic Weapon Master, and I'd like to actually use most of them. If that borders on cheese (given I'm going to be using the Karmic Strike feat and/or the Perfect Riposte power), I'm fine with dropping them.

paradox26

2024-02-06, 01:58 AM

Question- is Trickster Spellthief acceptable? I think it was Dragon Magazine, not WotC, originally. If so, I will go with a Spellthief 7+Shadowcaster 4-> Noctumancer 10. The concept being an Elf who lost her family to Drow raids. Otherwise, a Duergar Cleric+Totemist->Sapphire Hierarch with a similar high concept. I will flesh out details once I have a build.
I am approving most of Dragon Magazine, so that is fine.

@paradox26
RE:

what this does not exactly cover, I will ask about.

Can I take an magic item , reverse engineer it to see what things cost like, (IE grants you the Combat Reflexes feat) - would you allow that?

and following that up there is a sidebar that makes mention of adding a feat to an item for 10k - would you allow that ?
Reverse engineering is fine.
Buying feats onto items is banned.

also, epic spellcasting, can we have crafted epic spells before game.
No epic spells.

Well, I've been beat out in terms of "person with the best stat rolls" but I still really like the array I've got. I do have a question, however. Is Dragon Magazine content allowed on request? Specifically, the Improved Combat Reflexes (https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Improved_Combat_Reflexes) and possibly the Greater Combat Reflexes feats. (https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Greater_Combat_Reflexes) They're not essential, but I am going to be getting a lot of AoOs thanks to Psychic Weapon Master, and I'd like to actually use most of them. If that borders on cheese (given I'm going to be using the Karmic Strike feat and/or the Perfect Riposte power), I'm fine with dropping them.
I am approving most of Dragon magazine, but shoot me a heads up just to make sure it isn't silly. The ones you asked for above are fine.

DrK

2024-02-06, 02:36 AM

I am interested as well, thanks @Paradox, especially with the low optimisation target

Stat rolls

[roll0]
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[roll2]
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[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

EDIT: And Set 2 (18,18,15,15,14,13) is the winner!

Not sure yet on class, but won't be an arcane caster, likley looking at a straight fighter (to see how they fare at epic level) or an unoptimised druid (as its a class I always enjoy)

namo

2024-02-06, 04:08 AM

[roll0]
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18, 18, 17, 17, 16, 13 - wow!

1/ Are you OK with the Shadowcaster fix (https://www.enworld.org/threads/shadowcaster-fixes-by-mouseferatu.184955/)?
It comes straight from the author, but to be transparent it was never published officially by WotC.

2/ Are you OK with Epic Warlock feats (https://rpg.nobl.ca/archive.php?x=dnd/ei/20061027a)?
With Epic Binder feats (https://forums.giantitp.com/showsinglepost.php?p=9589080&postcount=6)?
(They come from WotC web enhancements.)

paradox26

2024-02-06, 05:19 AM

namo

2024-02-06, 06:14 AM

The links I provided were lifted from the Exulansis epic game, so I assumed they were OK - that thread was up for a long time.

One last (for a while at least!) question: would you allow to use the Adaptation section of the Anima Mage (ToM p53) to have it progress Shadowcasting instead of arcane casting?

ADAPTATION
Anima mages needn't exploit vestiges to gain power: the vestiges could volunteer the added powers to an anima mage in recognition of his spellcasting ability. You could also relax the prerequisites to open this prestige class to any spellcaster, or even a psionic character.

If so, I would likely go for Binder 1/Shadowcaster 4/Anima Mage 10/Shadowcaster 6 as a build. Mostly Shadowcasting, but with some Vestige utility (like healing probably, in case we're short on that). Should be Tier 3+, but of course let me know if you dislike it.

Feathersnow

2024-02-06, 06:27 AM

The shadowcaster is pretty much unplayable without the fix, so that will be probably the only piece of homebrew I will allow.
The epic material is allowed if you can link me to it legally, if it is WOTC material.

I think that's a little harsh a view of the book Shadowcaster, but I won't say no to free stuff.

The links I provided were lifted from the Exulansis epic game, so I assumed they were OK - that thread was up for a long time.

One last (for a while at least!) question: would you allow to use the Adaptation section of the Anima Mage (ToM p53) to have it progress Shadowcasting instead of arcane casting?

If so, I would likely go for Binder 1/Shadowcaster 4/Anima Mage 10/Shadowcaster 6 as a build. Mostly Shadowcasting, but with some Vestige utility (like healing probably, in case we're short on that). Should be Tier 3+, but of course let me know if you dislike it.

Hey a second Shadowcaster! My backstory is my gal was raised by the sect after her parents were killed by Drow. Maybe we can tie our stories together if we both are selected. Her tribe of Elves worships a star Goddess who views Drow as apostates for living underground, but they might forgive them that if they weren't so evil...

paradox26

2024-02-06, 06:41 AM

1/ Are you OK with the Shadowcaster fix (https://www.enworld.org/threads/shadowcaster-fixes-by-mouseferatu.184955/)?
It comes straight from the author, but to be transparent it was never published officially by WotC.

2/ Are you OK with Epic Warlock feats (https://rpg.nobl.ca/archive.php?x=dnd/ei/20061027a)?
With Epic Binder feats (https://forums.giantitp.com/showsinglepost.php?p=9589080&postcount=6)?
(They come from WotC web enhancements.)
The epic material is okay, but no to epic vestiges. The one I did read offered 250 points of healing every five rounds, and that is very excessive.

The links I provided were lifted from the Exulansis epic game, so I assumed they were OK - that thread was up for a long time.

One last (for a while at least!) question: would you allow to use the Adaptation section of the Anima Mage (ToM p53) to have it progress Shadowcasting instead of arcane casting?

If so, I would likely go for Binder 1/Shadowcaster 4/Anima Mage 10/Shadowcaster 6 as a build. Mostly Shadowcasting, but with some Vestige utility (like healing probably, in case we're short on that). Should be Tier 3+, but of course let me know if you dislike it.
I will allow the adaptation of the anima mage.

Feathersnow

2024-02-06, 11:16 AM

Here is Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693) Born to Gray Elves that believe their ancestors live among the stars, she was the only survivor of a Drow raid. She was taken in by a sect of shadiwcasters, where she dedicated herself to fighting mages.

She eventually went to war with the help of her companion, an axiomatic Bat named Squeaky. She defeated many Drow and became powerful in countermagic. She earned her greatest trophy, the ephod of a Drow High Priestess, which she desecrated and now wears as a cloak. She also stole a ring from the corpse of a Drow Archmage.

She carries no weapon, but has an "artifact" dubbed the Gauntlet of Slapping that makes her spellthief abilities easier to use. (It's really just a +5 adamantine Gauntlet)

Darius Vibrtrar

2024-02-06, 11:30 AM

How do you feel about the arms and equipment guide, specifically the chocker of eloquence, only asking because no custom magic items to make skill enhancements to perform

samduke

2024-02-06, 12:46 PM

How do you feel about the arms and equipment guide, specifically the chocker of eloquence, only asking because no custom magic items to make skill enhancements to perform

pretty certain A&Eg is allowed source

DrK

2024-02-06, 05:11 PM

Here is Kurnos, my WIP (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743) elven druid of vengenace taking his war from the woods dwn to the hated drow

Only thing non-core is "Wild Reaper" druidic variant

Aegis013

2024-02-06, 06:05 PM

Introducing Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746).

A Dream Dwarf of the Worldshield Clan who has been charged with protecting not just his home of Bastille Depths, but the entire world, from the threat of the Drow and the Underdark.

Jorrik is an excellent tank, but don't count on him to put out big damage numbers. He's here to make sure other heroes survive with tricks to protect and heal while doing sufficient damage to ensure he's threatening enough not to be ignored.

Talivan

2024-02-06, 06:06 PM

Hey Paradox

Im making a Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5, however I now remember Invis blade have two feat requirements that doesn't make sense (Far Shot, Point Blank Shot), can we change those for new ones making more sense or (just fill out all feat slots with necesary ones for my build :S ), remove it at all?

EDIT: In fact, I'm short by one feat...

EDIT2: WAIT!, Super Elephant comes to the Room!, I can free some Feat taxes!

Feathersnow

2024-02-06, 06:07 PM

To Clarify, I understand my collection of Feats and the PrC gives me both caster levels and my familiar abilities at level 21

Da'Shain

2024-02-06, 07:41 PM

Interested, thinking a Bard of some kind but let's see what the dice say.

Set 1:
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

Set 2:
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

Zarthrax

2024-02-06, 10:01 PM

[roll0]
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[roll6]
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Edit-I'll take the second set.

Dusk Raven

2024-02-06, 10:18 PM

All right, my work in progress sheet for Calliopi Rayza. (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473) Once, she was a noble daughter who had it all - wealth, education, physical prowess, and beauty. But that all changed when the... ahem, drow attacked. Through their raids and schemes, Calliopi's noble house was destroyed, and she lost nearly everything, except her own fighting talent and the psionic power starting to awaken in her. For a long time, she took work as a mercenary, especially on the open sea, protecting the sort of merchant vessels her family once commanded. But all that was simply to gain wealth and experience, so she could one day take her revenge against the drow.

Mechanically, she's a scythe user, with absurd crit potential and the ability to gain massive amounts of temp HP every time she does crit. She's also built around Attacks of Opportunity, getting lots of them, and locking down the enemy with them. So, some damage, some tankiness, and some battlefield control. And of course, her psychic powers only make her more effective.

But she's not just good at combat. As a former noble, she has a way with people, so she'll be a face as well. Any dedicated face will probably win out against her, of course, but in the absence of one I'm sure she'll be quite persuasive... one way or another.

...The face part, and me putting a 17 into Charisma (the stat Psychic Warriors need and want the least) is partially because she's still pretty, but also to atone for the fact that I may have done some optimization with her combat abilities. I generally feel that martials are fully justified in doing whatever they can to be effective, but Calliopi isn't a pure martial (even if her psionics are almost all self-buffs). Take solace in the fact that I have little experience with high-level 3.5 play, and am generally bad at optimizing on my own, so I have no idea how effective I'll truly be.

Although the one time I did play high-level 3.5, it was with a gestalt variant of this build. And I rather liked how it worked.

All that's left is to write her backstory in a little more detail, fill out some of the remaining features, and pick equipment - my least favorite part of character creation. I also need to decide if I want to rearrange my ability scores slightly - make my Intelligence higher, namely, lean more into the face role by being able to devote more skill points to it. I'm also tempted to take a flaw, but none of the official ones are ones I want to saddle Calliopi with, even if I am kinda starved for feats. ...I am also trying very hard to resist taking a dip in Swordsage. Mostly for the AC bonus.

Also, I have a couple questions. Related to the above, do Intelligence increases retroactively increase skill points for previous levels, or only for present and future ones?

I also have a question about equipment - my equipment, specifically. Part of the Psychic Weapon Master's features is that I can sacrifice XP to enchant my bonded weapon (and also, I can't use an already-enchanted weapon as my bonded weapon). How much XP am I allowed to sacrifice in this manner? Or should we simplify things and make this weapon cost gold instead, instead of putting me at a lower experience point level than the rest of the party?

CozJa

2024-02-07, 12:45 AM

Well, I'll roll!

Set1
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

Set 2
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

paradox26

2024-02-07, 02:47 AM

How do you feel about the arms and equipment guide, specifically the chocker of eloquence, only asking because no custom magic items to make skill enhancements to perform
ARms and Equipment Guide is fine, except for the part about buying feats to put onto items. That is banned, though it shouldn't matter much since custom items are banned.

Hey Paradox

Im making a Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5, however I now remember Invis blade have two feat requirements that doesn't make sense (Far Shot, Point Blank Shot), can we change those for new ones making more sense or (just fill out all feat slots with necesary ones for my build :S ), remove it at all?

EDIT: In fact, I'm short by one feat...

EDIT2: WAIT!, Super Elephant comes to the Room!, I can free some Feat taxes!
Yes, the Elephant rules should fix your problems.

To Clarify, I understand my collection of Feats and the PrC gives me both caster levels and my familiar abilities at level 21
That sounds fine.

[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]

[roll6]
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]

Edit-I'll take the second set.
You get to roll two sets of seven rolls. So although you have rolled really well, you get a chance to improve it a little, as you only rolled twos ets of six rolls.

Also, I have a couple questions. Related to the above, do Intelligence increases retroactively increase skill points for previous levels, or only for present and future ones?

I also have a question about equipment - my equipment, specifically. Part of the Psychic Weapon Master's features is that I can sacrifice XP to enchant my bonded weapon (and also, I can't use an already-enchanted weapon as my bonded weapon). How much XP am I allowed to sacrifice in this manner? Or should we simplify things and make this weapon cost gold instead, instead of putting me at a lower experience point level than the rest of the party?
Just spend gold on your items to make things easier, and in case it matters treat it as if you spent xp.
Intelligence score uses are retroactive, so if it improves just treat it as if you always had it at that level. Makes things easier for everyone.

Yas392

2024-02-07, 09:15 AM

@paradox26 Putting up a list of concerns because I am not sure whether they fall under your definition of cheese.

Serrenwood
Psychic Meditation & Greater version
Hustle Psionic Power

samduke

2024-02-07, 12:11 PM

@paradox26
RE: Epic Weapons:

I am wanting your definition of what is an epic weapon is
is it
A: any weapon with an enhancement bonus of 6+ *going from +5 to +6 is ouch
+5 +50,000 gp , +6 +720,000 gp

B: any weapon with a total bonus of 6+ * IE +5 enh +50,000 gp & upto +5 named enhancement ?
making a possible +10 weapon at 200,000 gp

DrK

2024-02-07, 02:45 PM

The second one @Samduke

You can have a +5, flaming, frost , corrosive shocking keen weapon for 200 K
Or a +6 one for 720K as the +5 —> +6 makes it epic

Zarthrax

2024-02-07, 03:05 PM

@Paradox26-

I'm good with keeping what I got, but I did have a question for you. If an Ur-Priest takes levels in Contemplative, can they then trade one of the domains for the Divine Magician ACF?

samduke

2024-02-07, 04:21 PM

The second one @Samduke

You can have a +5, flaming, frost , corrosive shocking keen weapon for 200 K
Or a +6 one for 720K as the +5 —> +6 makes it epic

while I appreciate you comment, and I think that (B) is probably correct, I was looking for P26's rule for it.

And here is a handy table for folks

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory
Silverbrow Human
Cleric of Waukeen 21
WIP

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Darius Vibrtrar

2024-02-07, 04:36 PM

Pretty sure they are both right. *shrug* like how +5 vorpal weapon is a +10 total bonus. And 200k. But a +1 Brilliant Vorpal Weapon is +11 and is epically priced [2,420,000] geez that's a jump lol

But! Silverbrow human! I just read on them today! Weird coincidence! Nice
I'm going with a star elf!

DrK

2024-02-07, 04:47 PM

Just adding to the table

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory
Silverbrow Human
Cleric of Waukeen 21
WIP

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

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Feathersnow

2024-02-07, 04:50 PM

Swordsaged!

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Samduke
Ivory
Silverbrow Human
Cleric of Waukeen 21
WIP

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

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thethird

2024-02-07, 05:25 PM

How do you feel about using high CL mostly for buffing blasting (not going to be dropping holy words on people).

Was thinking building a knight of the weave / ultimate magus.

Aegis013

2024-02-07, 06:45 PM

Darius Vibrtrar

2024-02-07, 06:49 PM

samduke

2024-02-07, 07:51 PM

How do you feel about using high CL mostly for buffing blasting (not going to be dropping holy words on people).

Was thinking building a knight of the weave / ultimate magus.

just note the gm has said LOW OP game so take that for what it is worth

Talivan

2024-02-07, 08:47 PM

watupwithdat

2024-02-07, 09:25 PM

DrK had the same Wild Reaper idea as me, so I'll take the opportunity to force myself to not build a spellcaster, for once.

I've always thought about playing an Eternal Blade, and this low op high level game seems to be the only time that seems like a good idea.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Samduke
Ivory
Silverbrow Human
Cleric of Waukeen 21
WIP

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
WIP

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Fighter 1/Warblade 7/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10/? 1
WIP

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Dusk Raven

2024-02-07, 10:15 PM

Adding myself.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Samduke
Ivory
Silverbrow Human
Cleric of Waukeen 21
WIP

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
WIP

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade X/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2?/Eternal Blade 10
WIP

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Needs Equipment, More Detailed Backstory

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watupwithdat

2024-02-07, 10:55 PM

Are we doing fractional saves/bab?

Does Improved Weapon Familiarity work in place of Exotic Weapon Proficiency for prerequisites? It has the same effect for elven weapons, but Champion of Corellon Larethian specifies Exotic Weapon Proficiency.

paradox26

2024-02-07, 11:36 PM

@paradox26 Putting up a list of concerns because I am not sure whether they fall under your definition of cheese.

Serrenwood
Psychic Meditation & Greater version
Hustle Psionic Power
Serrenwood is okay.
I will need a working link to psychic meditation, but the articles about its use suggest it is overpowered, so be prepared for a no on those.
Hustle is okay as long as it isn't abused with shenanigans.

@paradox26
RE: Epic Weapons:

I am wanting your definition of what is an epic weapon is
is it
A: any weapon with an enhancement bonus of 6+ *going from +5 to +6 is ouch
+5 +50,000 gp , +6 +720,000 gp

B: any weapon with a total bonus of 6+ * IE +5 enh +50,000 gp & upto +5 named enhancement ?
making a possible +10 weapon at 200,000 gp
An epic weapon has either a special ability or enhancement bonus of +6 or greater. But what I will do is remove the x10 multiplier and reduce it to x2, so epic weapons are actually affordable. I always thought the x10 multiplier was ridiculous.

@Paradox26-

I'm good with keeping what I got, but I did have a question for you. If an Ur-Priest takes levels in Contemplative, can they then trade one of the domains for the Divine Magician ACF?
As the contemplative's whole idea is being closer to their god, I would say an ur-priest can't become one, unfortunately, as they reject the gods.

How do you feel about using high CL mostly for buffing blasting (not going to be dropping holy words on people).

Was thinking building a knight of the weave / ultimate magus.
That is okay, but as Samduke said, remember that it is a low OP game, so don't go overboard with it.

Are we doing fractional saves/bab?

Does Improved Weapon Familiarity work in place of Exotic Weapon Proficiency for prerequisites? It has the same effect for elven weapons, but Champion of Corellon Larethian specifies Exotic Weapon Proficiency.
Yes, you can use fractional saves.
I will allow one feat to replace the other, since it is still a feat tax, in this case.

samduke

2024-02-07, 11:41 PM

An epic weapon has either a special ability or enhancement bonus of +6 or greater. But what I will do is remove the x10 multiplier and reduce it to x2, so epic weapons are actually affordable. I always thought the x10 multiplier was ridiculous
so a +10 at 200k, +11 would be 2x that for 400k?

paradox26

2024-02-08, 12:30 AM

Not quite. It would cost 2.42 million normally for a +11 weapon. Instead of the x10 value, you would pay x2, so it would be 484,000gp.

samduke

2024-02-08, 07:48 AM

Zarthrax

2024-02-08, 07:57 AM

As the contemplative's whole idea is being closer to their god, I would say an ur-priest can't become one, unfortunately, as they reject the gods.

That's fine. Second question, then. There are numerous ways to have spells count as the opposite source (arcane as divine, divine as arcane), especially from Dragon Magazine. Are those ways allowed for counting as casting the opposite source for PrC requirements?

DrK

2024-02-08, 09:19 AM

thethird

2024-02-08, 09:33 AM

just note the gm has said LOW OP game so take that for what it is worth

Thanks. That's 2 cents worth. (this is a good natured joke implying that you gave our opinion, colloquially known as 2 cents and then talked about worth). The whole reason I am asking is because GM said that. To make sure things are alright.

That said this game is for you, so, what do you feel is an adequate OP level? Personally I believe that what is theoretical OP is clear (pun pun), what is high OP can be... relatively easy to define (night infinite actions loop, gating a lot of solars), but anything below that is open to table interpretation.

That is okay, but as Samduke said, remember that it is a low OP game, so don't go overboard with it.

Ideas on spoiler. I rather align this before going forward and building an epic character. What do people (you) consider low OP? A classic out of the book single classed character? Someone who isn't capable of casting 9th level spells?

Honest idea is to have a high CL to have buffs more resistant to dispelling and be able to enable the party.

Build stubb:

Wizard 5 (with abyssal specialist, aligned spellcaster (chaos), and spontaneous divination) / knight of the weave 1 / ultimate magus 10 / escalation mage 5

Using theurgic specialist feat to stack CL on specialist spells (i.e. chaos spells). The chaos spells CL would be 20 (wizard) + 28 (knight of the weave) + 3 (ultimate magus) -> 51

Not using the abyssal specialist + aligned spellcaster would mean that that high CL is only for one school of magic (a more specialized thing)

Scrapping the theurgic specialist entirely would also reduce the high CL to 23 which would be almost french vanilla.

What the build has over an out of the box wizard is a high CL and metamagic cost mitigation as the knight of the weave slots can be used to pay for metamagic and the escalation mage abilities imitate metamagic effects with a CL check (which the high CL makes easier to succeed at).

Archmage1

2024-02-08, 11:29 AM

So... I'm kind of tempted to see about reviving an old character of mine. Conman. An ancient barbarian. But first, let's see what the stat gods say.

[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]
17, 14, 14, 12, 12, 12

[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]
18, 17, 16, 16, 13, 13

I have a strange feeling that one of these stat blocks is a little bit better than the other.

DrK

2024-02-08, 12:03 PM

Ideas on spoiler. I rather align this before going forward and building an epic character. What do people (you) consider low OP? A classic out of the book single classed character? Someone who isn't capable of casting 9th level spells?

My take on low OP is a straight druid with no metamagic, no divine metamagic (he's a wild reaper variant) and most of his feats spent on combat maneuvres. No stats have even reached 30. Also a pet bear rather than a venomfire boosted Fleskraker :smallwink:

Archmage1

2024-02-08, 12:11 PM

It is possible that I might be pushing the OP scale a bit too far: I'm planning on combing the good ole lion totem barbarian(Pounce), shock trooper, and various fear producing things to act as "defense".

All of which is probably going to lead to a single enemy going splat, and others having performance issues. Hopefully.

Signs that you might be making a barbarian...
Gold spent on not dying? ~150k for +11 Con. 25k for +5 to saves.
Gold spent on killing things? ~475k for a sword. ~150k for more strength. 12k for darkvision
Signs that something that went horribly wrong? ~100k for +4 charisma.

Also, his total lack of survivability is going to be a major problem, since he is likely to take a lot of damage. And has no useful healing. Hm.

Feathersnow

2024-02-08, 12:53 PM

For what little it's worth, me having rarely played at this level:.
My take was a theurgic combination of two traditionally weak classes, so I have lots of spells, better than decent defense, and nothing above spell level 7 at start and CL equal to my HD by default, that can only be boosted by fighting other mages. Also, I'm a counter-magic specialist, which is kind of niche, and my weapon is a gauntlet, even though I had free Proficiencies as an Elf.

Dusk Raven

2024-02-08, 01:19 PM

As I stated before, I'm bad at optimizing on my own, and have little ability to predict how OP something will be. As it is, going into Psychic Weapon Master is far from the most optimized thing a PsyWar can do, but at the same time I do have high crit damage, and get equally high temp HP every time I do so, and I will likely be getting crits on a consistent basis.

But I think high crit damage is preferable to the many, many ways a fully optimized Wizard has of simply ending a fight. I still have to, you know, engage with the mechanics of combat.

I will need a working link to psychic meditation, but the articles about its use suggest it is overpowered, so be prepared for a no on those.

...Good thing I didn't take it, though it is on my list of wanted feats.

I'm not sure I'm actually allowed to post a link, but it's easy to find with a Google search. As I recall, it makes regaining psionic focus a move action instead of a full-round action, so it's very valuable to those who expend them. I myself technically have two foci to spend, so it's less urgent for me, but it'd still be pretty good.

I suspect it'd mostly be bonkers for those who want to move action: regain focus, standard action: cast power, and swift action: cast quickened power. Which I could technically do, but my powers are pretty much all buffs, and I only took Quickened Power so I'd be able to get more buffs up when I don't have prep time. None of my powers are capable of ending a fight, and they only quicken it by making me better at what I was already doing.

Archmage1

2024-02-08, 01:24 PM

Ok, Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)(A Cohen the Barbarian ripoff), is sort of done, barring fluff. Well, and spells.

Are Epic Destinies on the table(http://web.archive.org/web/20100916093852/http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/drfe/20080428) specifically looking at Blade of Ragnarock)

Potential areas of concern:
With an AC of 10, he's going to get hit. A lot. He also has a lot of hit points.
And no healing. This could be problematical.

Damage: Might be a bit overtuned. Assuming he can stack all the things, he can do...
1d10+23(Base)+80(Power attack) damage on a charge with one attack, and with pounce, he gets 4 of them.(+38/33/23/23)

Crowd control:
I might have overdone it a bit on the fear side of things?
When he charges or full attacks: Enemies within 20 feet need a will save DC 25 or be shaken for 1 minute.(Save makes immune for a day)
When he rages, one enemy within 30 feet(And his buddies within 10 feet) gets to roll a check(1d20+hit dice+wis+bonuses vs fear) against 1d20+31(Or 38, if you let intimidate be strength based) or be shaken.
On his first hit against an evil enemy, they get to do a will save DC 25 or be shaken.
When he rages, all enemies with in feet need to make a will save(DC my intimidate check) or be shaken. And all their buddies within 10 feet of them too.)
Also, if he demoralizes anyone, they are cowering for 1 turn instead, then shaken instead.

If he makes afraid, they get to cover in fear instead, and are shaken in the following round. Which does cut down on the duration, but...)

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Samduke
Ivory
Silverbrow Human
Cleric of Waukeen 21
WIP

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
WIP

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade X/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2?/Eternal Blade 10
WIP

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Needs Equipment, More Detailed Backstory

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 11/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10
Missing Backstory

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Dusk Raven

2024-02-08, 02:23 PM

Working on buying equipment. Fortunately, this time it's easy - I ported over almost all my equipment from the last time I used this build (well, something similar) and... I still have 348,032 gold left. I hate buying items at high levels.

What else do I even spend it on? Do I just shell out the money for Tomes/Manuals so I don't have to worry about spending the gold anymore? Maybe I just do more research and find more things to buy...

Couple questions: One, I'd really like some Celestial Armor, but it's normally just a +3, I think. Can I spend additional gold to "upgrade" it to a +5 or higher? A +5 is, I believe, 38,400 gold, but I could probably add some special abilities to it, didn't think of that last time.

Second, you said that stacking magical effects is +50% of the lesser cost. Is that for all effects, or does that not apply to simple number increases like the MIC seems to recommend?

Archmage1

2024-02-08, 02:30 PM

I figured tomes were a good choice. Possibly to a too great of one, for me. (I got 3).

Also, some source of darkvision is probably an idea.

Is it sad that my plan for armor is to get it from the enemy?

CozJa

2024-02-08, 04:24 PM

So, I'm thinking about combining Focused Specialist ACF and the Changeling Wizard racial levels to make a character heavily specialized in Transmutation and Illusion spells. Would it be ok? Tentative build would be Changeling Wizard 5/Master Specialist 10/Recaster5/Archmage1

Obvioulsy powerful, since it's a wizard, but none of the usual cheesy things in my mind

Da'Shain

2024-02-08, 05:22 PM

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Samduke
Ivory
Silverbrow Human
Cleric of Waukeen 21
WIP

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
WIP

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade X/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2?/Eternal Blade 10
WIP

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Needs Equipment, More Detailed Backstory

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 11/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10
Missing Backstory

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

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Adding a Factotum to the mix, a former Drow slave who escaped in a mess of blood years ago and has returned to try and finish off that sadistic society if he can. In terms of character optimization, I would call him low to mid-OP for an epic character myself, as he doesn't make use of most of the more ridiculous combos and has some glaring holes in his defenses, but he certainly hits hard and has all the skills and utility for days.

niw18

2024-02-09, 02:08 PM

intresting umm

Would you allow a Tibbit

Fabulous Cats (https://pdfcoffee.com/fabulous-cats-pdf-free.html)

thinking of a Psion 11 / thrallherd 10 as my build

samduke

2024-02-09, 04:13 PM

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Dracolyte 5/ Contemplative 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
WIP

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade X/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2?/Eternal Blade 10
WIP

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Needs Equipment, More Detailed Backstory

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 11/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10
Missing Backstory

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

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because the forums are really unstable these days
*Asked via discord to P26: Can I ignore the racial requirement of Seeker of the Misty Isle
*Answered: yes

Darius Vibrtrar

2024-02-09, 04:52 PM

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Dracolyte 5/ Contemplative 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade X/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2?/Eternal Blade 10
WIP

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Needs Equipment, More Detailed Backstory

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 11/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10
Missing Backstory

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

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Updated CS status

Aegis013

2024-02-09, 07:24 PM

Briefly glancing at other submissions to see if Jorrik is around the same ability level and I happened to notice Darius is using a Cloak of Charisma and an Ioun Stone of Charisma. Normally Cloak of Charisma and Ioun Stone of Charisma (Pink and Green Sphere) both provide Enhancement Bonus and thus don't stack. Am I missing something?

Also, I think Enzio's character sheet link is broken and is routing to Darius instead of Enzio.

Darius Vibrtrar

2024-02-09, 07:41 PM

Briefly glancing at other submissions to see if Jorrik is around the same ability level and I happened to notice Darius is using a Cloak of Charisma and an Ioun Stone of Charisma. Normally Cloak of Charisma and Ioun Stone of Charisma (Pink and Green Sphere) both provide Enhancement Bonus and thus don't stack. Am I missing something?

Ah, that must have come up in an errata, back when I was using the printed books, the Ioun Stones were not Enhancement bonuses. Ill drop that stone. They wont stack.

paradox26

2024-02-10, 01:18 AM

okay let me get it straight, you said 2x the cost, so I am strictly dealing with Enhancement for this not specials like shock

+5 50,000 gp * normally this is where ENH ends and +6 normally is epic silliness x10 normally

+6 72,000 gp * x2 144,000
+7 98,000 gp *x2 196,000
+8 128,000 gp *x2 256,000
+9 162,000 gp *x2 324,000
+10 200,000 gp *x2 400,000
+11 242,000 gp *x2 484,000

and for anything further the dmg has Weapon bonus (enhancement) Bonus squared × 2,000 gp

Now let us deal with the Specials like Shock, are the specials figured just as normal meaning if I want that +10 ENH and Shock a bonus +1 I need to pay the +11 price

OR am I paying the +10 price and then only 2,000 for the +1 bonus special ?
Yes, that would be the case. And as for special abilities, you add the bonus to the enhancement bonus and then calculate the amount, you don't calculate them separately.

Honest idea is to have a high CL to have buffs more resistant to dispelling and be able to enable the party.

Build stubb:

Wizard 5 (with abyssal specialist, aligned spellcaster (chaos), and spontaneous divination) / knight of the weave 1 / ultimate magus 10 / escalation mage 5

Using theurgic specialist feat to stack CL on specialist spells (i.e. chaos spells). The chaos spells CL would be 20 (wizard) + 28 (knight of the weave) + 3 (ultimate magus) -> 51

Not using the abyssal specialist + aligned spellcaster would mean that that high CL is only for one school of magic (a more specialized thing)

Scrapping the theurgic specialist entirely would also reduce the high CL to 23 which would be almost french vanilla.

What the build has over an out of the box wizard is a high CL and metamagic cost mitigation as the knight of the weave slots can be used to pay for metamagic and the escalation mage abilities imitate metamagic effects with a CL check (which the high CL makes easier to succeed at).
That would definitely be high OP. I will limit caster levels to character levels, so no 51 caster level.

My take on low OP is a straight druid with no metamagic, no divine metamagic (he's a wild reaper variant) and most of his feats spent on combat maneuvres. No stats have even reached 30. Also a pet bear rather than a venomfire boosted Fleskraker :smallwink:
That is more what I am thinking of, though I have allowed more than one class to be taken. As far as stats, I am thinking of main attribute to be up about 40 or 50 max, but less is better, if it comes down to it. I don't mind metamagic, but I am not a fan of DMM.

As I stated before, I'm bad at optimizing on my own, and have little ability to predict how OP something will be. As it is, going into Psychic Weapon Master is far from the most optimized thing a PsyWar can do, but at the same time I do have high crit damage, and get equally high temp HP every time I do so, and I will likely be getting crits on a consistent basis.

But I think high crit damage is preferable to the many, many ways a fully optimized Wizard has of simply ending a fight. I still have to, you know, engage with the mechanics of combat.

...Good thing I didn't take it, though it is on my list of wanted feats.

I'm not sure I'm actually allowed to post a link, but it's easy to find with a Google search. As I recall, it makes regaining psionic focus a move action instead of a full-round action, so it's very valuable to those who expend them. I myself technically have two foci to spend, so it's less urgent for me, but it'd still be pretty good.

I suspect it'd mostly be bonkers for those who want to move action: regain focus, standard action: cast power, and swift action: cast quickened power. Which I could technically do, but my powers are pretty much all buffs, and I only took Quickened Power so I'd be able to get more buffs up when I don't have prep time. None of my powers are capable of ending a fight, and they only quicken it by making me better at what I was already doing.
Psychic meditation and psionic meditation are apparently two different things, from what I could find online. Psionic meditation is what you meant, I think, and that feat is fine.

Working on buying equipment. Fortunately, this time it's easy - I ported over almost all my equipment from the last time I used this build (well, something similar) and... I still have 348,032 gold left. I hate buying items at high levels.

What else do I even spend it on? Do I just shell out the money for Tomes/Manuals so I don't have to worry about spending the gold anymore? Maybe I just do more research and find more things to buy...

Couple questions: One, I'd really like some Celestial Armor, but it's normally just a +3, I think. Can I spend additional gold to "upgrade" it to a +5 or higher? A +5 is, I believe, 38,400 gold, but I could probably add some special abilities to it, didn't think of that last time.

Second, you said that stacking magical effects is +50% of the lesser cost. Is that for all effects, or does that not apply to simple number increases like the MIC seems to recommend?
Yes, I have allowed people to refit items by reverse engineering them, so you can upgrade the Celestial Armour.
The +50% is for all effects, but there is no custom items from scratch.

So, I'm thinking about combining Focused Specialist ACF and the Changeling Wizard racial levels to make a character heavily specialized in Transmutation and Illusion spells. Would it be ok? Tentative build would be Changeling Wizard 5/Master Specialist 10/Recaster5/Archmage1

Obvioulsy powerful, since it's a wizard, but none of the usual cheesy things in my mind
That sounds fine.

intresting umm

Would you allow a Tibbit

Fabulous Cats (https://pdfcoffee.com/fabulous-cats-pdf-free.html)

thinking of a Psion 11 / thrallherd 10 as my build
I prefer humanoid characters, so no tibbit, I am afraid.

Also, in answer to the question I was asked previously, there are no EPic Destinies.
Also, please not, I don't want leadership type effects. I want a party of heroes, not a parade full of servants.

Zarthrax

2024-02-10, 03:45 AM

...I didn't post that.

paradox26

2024-02-10, 03:48 AM

Sorry, Zarthrax. I edited a lengthy post and must have messed it up.

Zarthrax

2024-02-10, 03:55 AM

Sorry, Zarthrax. I edited a lengthy post and must have messed it up.

No worries. As long as I get my question answered, anyway....lol

Feathersnow

2024-02-10, 07:40 AM

samduke

2024-02-10, 08:17 AM

I don't mind metamagic, but I am not a fan of DMM.

well for what it is worth I have painfully avoided the feat all together

namo

2024-02-10, 08:44 AM

DMM is really only a problem when paired with large number of Nightsticks (for cheap turn attempts).
If one is limited to 1 Nightstick, one can DMM Quicken about 3 spells per day, or make a couple of spells Persistent (the most powerful use), which is very strong but not quite broken. But of course it might still be above the target power level of this game.
(Btw, this has no impact on my PC who doesn't use divine spells, I'm just discussing here.)

well for what it is worth I have painfully avoided the feat all together

By the way, samduke, your sheet seems to reference a Metamagic Rod of Persistent Spell, but no such item exists (even if it did, it would probably eat up all your wealth...).

samduke

2024-02-10, 09:07 AM

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade X/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2?/Eternal Blade 10
WIP

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Needs Equipment, More Detailed Backstory

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 11/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10
Missing Backstory

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

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table update

Darius Vibrtrar

2024-02-10, 10:29 AM

Darius was just a Bard, singing about the stars, love, and adventure. But that was before the drow made war on the surface again. They attacked the forest his parents had lived in for centuries, They brought fire, and burnt it to the ground. Darius would seek out those of power before joining the war, the Storm singers, those who could sing to the skys to bring down arcane power on thier foes. Once he could sing down lightning he would join the war effort, learning to share his charismatic voice with his allies around him. He would sing and sing until his throat was raw and his vocal chords wanted to rip and snap. He continues in the war effort against the drow, looking to take revenge for what was taken.

Athaleon

2024-02-10, 04:52 PM

Still working on my character. More or less settled on the Dwarf Wizard-Runesmith, not 100% on the other classes in the mix. Should be a straightforward support/utility caster with a little melee capability. Will try to stick to thematic Dwarfy-Earthy spells as much as I can.

When is the deadline for character submission? If it was posted earlier in the thread I must have skimmed right over it.

Dusk Raven

2024-02-10, 06:15 PM

Psychic meditation and psionic meditation are apparently two different things, from what I could find online. Psionic meditation is what you meant, I think, and that feat is fine.

Oh? Interesting. Well, I have no idea what the other feat does, then.

Meanwhile, working on the finishing touches for my sheet. Took another look at my powers, and a lot of my buffs actually have augments to let me cast them as a swift action, or they have generous durations, so I decided to swap out Quicken Power for Greater Combat Reflexes. I've got 15 AoOs, might as well have a way to use all of them.

Also still working on equipment. The most optimal thing to do is get a Manual to boost my Strength, getting it to 29 when combined with enhancements. I haven't because... well, my gal doesn't seem like she'd be that strong, but also because I'm not sure what the "baseline" for our applicant pool is. One of the things I don't like about high-level 3.5 is that numbers just seem all over the place. Closest I have to a baseline for a martial character is Coman, as his to-hit isn't too much higher than mine... at least when he's not raging.

I did discover the "Belt of Magnificence" which boosts all stats by 6. Now, do I really need a +6 to INT and CHA? No, but it was cheaper than what I did have. Less +50% from combining items, after all.

boj0

2024-02-10, 06:20 PM

Actually, I think I'm going to end up passing, the forums have had so many problems lately that I dread trying to load pages or check threads.

Feathersnow

2024-02-10, 06:42 PM

Meanwhile, working on the finishing touches for my sheet.
I did discover the "Belt of Magnificence" which boosts all stats by 6. Now, do I really need a +6 to INT and CHA? No, but it was cheaper than what I did have. Less +50% from combining items, after all.

Good catch. You saved me 20k and buffed my Str!

kinem

2024-02-10, 06:54 PM

I’m updating a Spirit Shaman for this.

samduke

2024-02-10, 07:36 PM

By the way, samduke, your sheet seems to reference a Metamagic Rod of Persistent Spell, but no such item exists (even if it did, it would probably eat up all your wealth...).

1st please stick to your character
2nd my numbers are exactly correct

Dusk Raven

2024-02-10, 08:19 PM

Good catch. You saved me 20k and buffed my Str!

Pleased to help!

In the meantime, a question for paradox: the Human Paragon (https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/UA:Human_Paragon) class advances spellcasting from any class. Given it's non-specific nature, I've been assuming that it would also advance psionic manifesting, but... I ought to ask about that. That will change my build if it doesn't.

Speaking of builds... it's a shame there aren't more PsyWar-based prestige classes. As it is, I don't have a lot of options if I want to advance my manifester level further.

paradox26

2024-02-10, 11:25 PM

So- this cap on caster level. That nerfs one of the features of Noctumancer. It isn't a major difference, because the other features are more relevant. But, in the unlikely event that I counterspell a spell and would otherwise have therefore been entitled to a temporary boost in CL and would simultaneously have a penalty to CL, such as, for example because I want to counterspell a spell with a Mystery, would the penalty be countered by the (nerfed) buff?
I will say that the penalty would be countered.

Still working on my character. More or less settled on the Dwarf Wizard-Runesmith, not 100% on the other classes in the mix. Should be a straightforward support/utility caster with a little melee capability. Will try to stick to thematic Dwarfy-Earthy spells as much as I can.

When is the deadline for character submission? If it was posted earlier in the thread I must have skimmed right over it.
I haven't yet set a due date, because I am having so many problems with the forums lately. Just get it done when you can. I will be very lenient with regards to due dates.

Actually, I think I'm going to end up passing, the forums have had so many problems lately that I dread trying to load pages or check threads.
You aren't wrong at all, and I totally understand.

Pleased to help!

In the meantime, a question for paradox: the Human Paragon (https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/UA:Human_Paragon) class advances spellcasting from any class. Given it's non-specific nature, I've been assuming that it would also advance psionic manifesting, but... I ought to ask about that. That will change my build if it doesn't.

Speaking of builds... it's a shame there aren't more PsyWar-based prestige classes. As it is, I don't have a lot of options if I want to advance my manifester level further.
I will allow it to boost psionic manifestation.

Zarthrax, did I overlook a question of yours? If so, can I please get you to ask it again, so I don't miss it? Thanks, mate.

watupwithdat

2024-02-10, 11:38 PM

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Needs Equipment, More Detailed Backstory

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 11/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10
Missing Backstory

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

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Less +50% from combining items, after all.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but you don't increase the lesser cost when adding stat items like belt of strength etc per MIC rules. So +6 strength is just +36000.

Aegis013

2024-02-10, 11:46 PM

I did discover the "Belt of Magnificence" which boosts all stats by 6. Now, do I really need a +6 to INT and CHA? No, but it was cheaper than what I did have. Less +50% from combining items, after all.

According to the rules on MiC pg 233-234 adding common effects to magic items of the appropriate slot type doesn't carry the 50% gp cost adjustment. (e.g. +2/4/6 enhancement to attribute, +1-5 resistance to saves, etc). So the Belt of Magnificence +6 which costs 200k costs more than just 4 items of +6 enhancement bonus which can added to other items for just 144k.

If you're merging items that aren't just common effects, like a Bracer of Archery with a Strongarm Bracer, the 50% increased cost adjustment would apply.

If I'm incorrect, I'm sure paradox26 will let us know.

Edit: Swordsage'd by watupwithdat.

Dusk Raven

2024-02-10, 11:50 PM

I actually asked about that earlier and paradox said all items get the +50% cost, as I recall.

Zarthrax

2024-02-11, 01:49 AM

That's fine. Second question, then. There are numerous ways to have spells count as the opposite source (arcane as divine, divine as arcane), especially from Dragon Magazine. Are those ways allowed for counting as casting the opposite source for PrC requirements?

@paradox26- reposted.

niw18

2024-02-11, 04:37 AM

That's ok I can think of something else

samduke

2024-02-11, 08:43 AM

According to the rules on MiC pg 233-234 adding common effects to magic items of the appropriate slot type doesn't carry the 50% gp cost adjustment. (e.g. +2/4/6 enhancement to attribute, +1-5 resistance to saves, etc). So the Belt of Magnificence +6 which costs 200k costs more than just 4 items of +6 enhancement bonus which can added to other items for just 144k.

If you're merging items that aren't just common effects, like a Bracer of Archery with a Strongarm Bracer, the 50% increased cost adjustment would apply.

If I'm incorrect, I'm sure paradox26 will let us know.

Edit: Swordsage'd by watupwithdat.

I actually asked about that earlier and paradox said all items get the +50% cost, as I recall.

As per Paradox26

if you have a magic item in a slot then all OTHER items in that slot of the same value or less cost 50% more

so if we have a bracers of armor +8, 64K + strongarm bracers 6K the strong arm actually cost 9K but the AC are still only 64K

Archmage1

2024-02-11, 12:21 PM

And that's Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)completed! If I've made any mistakes around his items or his feats, please, let me know.

He is an old school barbarian hero, from a time long since gone, with an epic reputation and very little else to show for it.

[QUOTE=watupwithdat;25961556]

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Needs Equipment, More Detailed Backstory

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

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Talivan

2024-02-11, 03:42 PM

Fixing my sheet link

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Needs Equipment, More Detailed Backstory

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

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Dusk Raven

2024-02-11, 04:42 PM

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

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Not really an update, but I have picked out my magical equipment. There's still a few mundane stuff I'd like to buy, but it's mostly just the accoutrements a noble ought to have, nothing that will have much mechanical bearing. Although I may trade out the Ring of Evasion - while I have a decent Reflex save, I also have a power that lets me say, "I'll just be taking the minimum possible damage from that spell, thanks." Ring of Evasion means I don't have to use it as much, of course, but pure damage isn't something I'm really concerned about. It just remains to be seen whether I spend the rest of my money on something like an Amulet of Natural Armor, or just bank it (having someone with a decent gold reserve might be nice, and it might as well be the former noble). Either way, though, if paradox were to say in five minutes, "All right, enough work on your sheets, characters are about to be picked," I'd be able to say, "I'm ready."

Aegis013

2024-02-11, 04:48 PM

Dusk Raven & samduke, looks like y'all are right. It appears I had missed this.

Second, you said that stacking magical effects is +50% of the lesser cost. Is that for all effects, or does that not apply to simple number increases like the MIC seems to recommend?

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The +50% is for all effects, but there is no custom items from scratch.

Paradox26, will you confirm the common effects (MiC pg 233-234) are subject to the 50% cost increase for this game?

I don't mind if that's the case, I would simply appreciate clarification before I re-calculate Jorrik's WBL expenditure and retool his numbers given how involved an epic inventory can be.

samduke

2024-02-11, 05:05 PM

Dusk Raven & samduke, looks like y'all are right. It appears I had missed this.

Paradox26, will you confirm the common effects (MiC pg 233-234) are subject to the 50% cost increase for this game?

I don't mind if that's the case, I would simply appreciate clarification before I re-calculate Jorrik's WBL expenditure and retool his numbers given how involved an epic inventory can be.

Think his wording was weird.

No matter the item in any slot the most expensive is at cost, all others even if the same price in thst same slot are 50% more expensive

Armor, shiels weapons are also slots and tend to be very expensive

What is or are the effects your asking about, that would help

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watupwithdat

2024-02-11, 06:38 PM

Think his wording was weird.

No matter the item in any slot the most expensive is at cost, all others even if the same price in thst same slot are 50% more expensive

Armor, shiels weapons are also slots and tend to be very expensive

What is or are the effects your asking about, that would help

Edited

It's referencing "Adding Common Item Effects to Existing Items" from page 233 of MIC, which states that you don't pay the +50% tax when adding common item effects (like stats, ac and saves) to existing items.

That rule has been normalized for a long time, so the confusion stems from it sounding like this game isn't following that standardized rule. As the presumption is that you only do the +50% lesser item tax when adding magic items to another (common item effects not included) it probably means that plenty of players would need to redo their equipment to account for the added cost of adding for example +6 Charisma to their Cloak of Resistance +5 (which would normally be 36000 + 25000; but 36000 + 25000 + 12500 without the MIC rule).

niw18

2024-02-12, 01:35 AM

I decide to make an elan

psion 11/ FLAYERSPAWN PSYCHIC prc 10

DrK

2024-02-12, 01:40 AM

Kurnos my Druid is finished, I’ll update the table in a bit. But happy that he can run around with his staff and pet bear

paradox26

2024-02-12, 02:28 AM

Dusk Raven & samduke, looks like y'all are right. It appears I had missed this.

Paradox26, will you confirm the common effects (MiC pg 233-234) are subject to the 50% cost increase for this game?

I don't mind if that's the case, I would simply appreciate clarification before I re-calculate Jorrik's WBL expenditure and retool his numbers given how involved an epic inventory can be.

Sorry for the confusion. I hadn't previously noticed that the common bonuses are free from the +50% penalty fee. We will go with that then. So to clarify, you can add bonuses to stats, AC and saves without the +50% fee.

Dusk Raven

2024-02-12, 02:41 AM

All right then, that... actually doesn't affect my gold at all, since I did very little combining and what I did combine, the lower-cost one was the one with the special effect. It's a positive change, and I'm sure others will appreciate it... but like I said, I didn't do much combining. I went for simplicity.

I could swap out that Belt of Magnificence for... five different stat-boosting items and drop INT. But I think my lady warrior would want the boost to INT. Besides, a noble and hero should take any chance to be magnificent.

If I drop the Ring of Evasion after all, though, I'd probably have enough for a few points of natural armor.

niw18

2024-02-12, 03:32 AM

Come on dice gods, be nice

Set 1

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take set 2 dropping 11

droobles

2024-02-12, 08:46 AM

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samduke

2024-02-12, 12:47 PM

Sorry for the confusion. I hadn't previously noticed that the common bonuses are free from the +50% penalty fee. We will go with that then. So to clarify, you can add bonuses to stats, AC and saves without the +50% fee.

that portion of the MIC always boggled me as to how it was supposed to work, I do not think it will benefit my character any though

kinem

2024-02-12, 04:02 PM

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

kinem
Benth Ram ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206”)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

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Rilem

2024-02-12, 05:02 PM

I may have missed it, but is there any background on how the war started and what's happened so far?

As much as I'd love updating the story of Erut and the Eye that Talks, I'm afraid the 2HD+2LA makes the whole thing too complicated; besides there are plenty of other roguish entries already. The real problem is he hates Illithid, not Drow. So I'll put win Ecé, a Wilder/Cognition Thief (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221); she hates Drow a lot. (CogThief is a Realms class, 6/10 progression with the exception of telepathy powers.) Still has a mix of abilities, though she's nowhere near as flexible as a Wizard or even Sorcerer.)

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
~ 80% complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

kinem
Benth Ram ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206”)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

rilem
Ecé Salebine (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221)
Human
Wilder11 / CognitionThief 10
Need gear

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DrK

2024-02-12, 05:28 PM

also completed now

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

kinem
Benth Ram ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206”)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

rilem
Ecé Salebine ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221”)
Human
Wilder11 / CognitionThief 10
Need gear

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niw18

2024-02-12, 08:13 PM

just adding my self to the table

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Human
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
WIP

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

kinem
Benth Ram ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206”)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

rilem
Ecé Salebine ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221”)
Human
Wilder11 / CognitionThief 10
Need gear

niw18
Kurnoc ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221”)
Elan
Psion 11/Flayerspawn Psychic 10
about 20 % complete

Talivan

2024-02-13, 08:49 PM

Hey Paradox, I just want to check/ask you:

1. Is Crescent Knife fom Dragon Magazine #275 allowed?
2. Can I use it with Invisible blade PrC?

Dagger Sneak Attack (Ex): An invisible blade gains the sneak attack ability (see the description of the dark hunter, earlier in this chapter) if he does not already have it, but the extra damage applies only to sneak attacks made with a dagger, kukri, or punching dagger (the DM may allow other similar weapons). When making a sneak attack with one of these weapons, he deals an extra 1d6 points of damage at 1st level, and this increases to 2d6 at 3rd level and to 3d6 at 5th level. If he already has the sneak attack ability from a previous class, the applicable bonuses on damage rolls stack.

Zarthrax

2024-02-14, 10:46 AM

@paradox26- reposted again

There are numerous ways to have spells count as the opposite source (arcane as divine, divine as arcane), especially from Dragon Magazine. Are those ways allowed for counting as casting the opposite source for PrC requirements?

If it helps, I was planning on using Southern Magician to use Eldritch Theurge(or the other one. I can't remember the name offhand, but the arcane one. I'm taking 10 levels of the divine one and don't want to hammer out an epic progression) to progress my Cleric casting while advancing Warlock.

paradox26

2024-02-14, 11:55 PM

Hey Paradox, I just want to check/ask you:

1. Is Crescent Knife fom Dragon Magazine #275 allowed?
2. Can I use it with Invisible blade PrC?
Yes and yes.

@paradox26- reposted again

There are numerous ways to have spells count as the opposite source (arcane as divine, divine as arcane), especially from Dragon Magazine. Are those ways allowed for counting as casting the opposite source for PrC requirements?

If it helps, I was planning on using Southern Magician to use Eldritch Theurge(or the other one. I can't remember the name offhand, but the arcane one. I'm taking 10 levels of the divine one and don't want to hammer out an epic progression) to progress my Cleric casting while advancing Warlock.
I am inclined towards no, but I will hesitantly say yes, so long as you don't try to abuse it. Sorry for making you ask again.

Talivan

2024-02-15, 12:29 AM

Yes and yes.

Awesome!, now I can finish my PC

Zarthrax

2024-02-15, 06:51 AM

I am inclined towards no, but I will hesitantly say yes, so long as you don't try to abuse it. Sorry for making you ask again.

Honestly, the worst thing my character can do is because of the Divine Magician ACF and one level of Heirophant. 2/day Unname with no components...lol

Halfelf ninja

2024-02-15, 02:55 PM

If its not too late to join, I would really like to try and submit a factotum 11/fiendbinder 10 - one mr. Allenworth, proprietor and owner of a devilishly good mercenary company, with a personal vendetta against the dark elves - from whom he stole the secrets of demon binding, many years ago.

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watupwithdat

2024-02-15, 03:01 PM

Weird how there's not any interesting epic feats for martial characters.

And I hope it counts as low op to wear full plate/chain mail while going dex and finesse, haha.

Lioslaith

2024-02-16, 06:58 AM

Late to the party, as usual, thinking some sort of ranger-esque type character. Let’s see if the dice gods are kind.

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samduke

2024-02-18, 09:29 AM

think p26 is giving another week or so

Talivan

2024-02-18, 07:22 PM

Updating my Entry to complete

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio Vandersen (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Changeling
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
Complete

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

kinem
Benth Ram ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206”)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

rilem
Ecé Salebine ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221”)
Human
Wilder11 / CognitionThief 10
Need gear

niw18
Kurnoc ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221”)
Elan
Psion 11/Flayerspawn Psychic 10
about 20 % complete

Lioslaith

2024-02-19, 05:29 PM

I think my ranger is done.

TheAlmightyKue

2024-02-19, 06:43 PM

I just want to see what my rolls would have been. Given you all seem done and this seems near the wrap up stage I am just curious (though I do have a day off to build)

[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

paradox26

2024-02-20, 12:06 AM

TheAlmightyKue

2024-02-20, 01:18 AM

Cool thanks

How do you rule these working together, there is plenty of debate saying they work together and saying they dont.
Collegiate Wizard (Complete Arcana pg 181)
And Greyhawk Method (Dragon Mag #315)
I dont know what is allowed for links, sorry.

paradox26

2024-02-20, 02:00 AM

I am not sure where my disk with all of the DRagon mag stuff is. Can you offer a brief explanation of what each of those is, and I will decide?

TheAlmightyKue

2024-02-20, 02:11 AM

I am not sure where my disk with all of the DRagon mag stuff is. Can you offer a brief explanation of what each of those is, and I will decide?

Sure, the first one Collegiate Wizard changes a wizards learning and starting spells. Instead of 3+Int for first level spells in their spell book it changed it to 6+Int, and every level when the Wizard would normally gain 2 spells to their spell book it instead lets them add 4. (Can only be taken at first level)
Greyhawk Method says it gains 4 free spells when you gain a level in a class that lets you prepare and cast arcane spells.
So in theory Collegiate changes the Wizards normal ability, while Greyhawk says "You gain four new spells" so some people say that it should stack.

Athaleon

2024-02-20, 03:14 AM

Got enough done to add my character to the table. Gear is mostly done (still listed on a separate spreadsheet for now), skills are finally done (nothing like an epic game to make someone hate 3.5's skill advancement system), just need to pick spells and actually write down the concept I have for this character.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

Talivan
Enzio Vandersen (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Changeling
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
Complete

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

kinem
Benth Ram ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206”)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

rilem
Ecé Salebine ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221”)
Human
Wilder11 / CognitionThief 10
Need gear

niw18
Kurnoc ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221”)
Elan
Psion 11/Flayerspawn Psychic 10
about 20 % complete

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441”)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

paradox26

2024-02-20, 03:15 AM

TheAlmightyKue

2024-02-20, 11:48 AM

Are they both feats or prestige classes? They seem overpowered for feats, so I would only allow you to take one, or else you will know roughly all of the spells. If they are both prestige classes I will allow them to stack, as that is a decent investment.

They are both feats. If they stack you get with a 31 Int (possible with an 18 grey elf and magic items)
Thats 24 lvl 1 spells
16 Lvl 2
16 lvl 3
16 lvl 4
16 lvl 5
16 lvl 6
16 lvl 7
16 lvl 8
32 lvl 9 (you can learn spells of other lvls when you lvl up so its probably gonna be more equally spread out. But thats a total of 168 Spells in your spell book barring any other features that add to spells) 168 is a lot of spells but isnt close to all of them. There is over 1000 spells on the Wizard spell list. So this is roughly 15-18%

With only one its
20 lvl 1 spells
8 lvl 2
8 lvl 3
8 lvl 4
8 lvl 5
8 lvl 6
8 lvl 7
8 lvl 8
16 lvl 9
For a total of 92 spells before any other features so this is roughly 9-10%

There is also the Elf Generalize Wizard and the Aerenal Arcanist feat which adds each a +1 (total +2 per level) (which makes it 132 even with 1 feat. and 218 with two)
And this is before I spend any amount of gold on scrolls of X which I can make sure my spellcraft is high enough to instantly learn.

Thats not including feats like Domain Wizard (UA) which gives me 9 extra spells
While here might as well ask about Eidetic Spellcaster ACF (DragMag #357) (no scribe scroll feat, no familiar, but no spellbook and you memorize all spells)
Nexus Method (DragMagazine #319) (lets you spontaneously convert a prepared spell slot into Summon Monster I-IX depending on the slot.)
Faerie Mysteries Initiate (Drag Mag #319)(With a Gray Elf this makes more sense, but it in short it lets you add Int instead of Con to bonus HP. )

If this is all too much maybe the Erudite (https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/classes/psion/erudite.shtml) class from Drag Mag #319 would be better (pretty sure that link is allowed)

Infernally Clay

2024-02-20, 01:57 PM

Can't hurt to do rollies.

Set #1:
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

Set #2:
[roll7]
[roll8]
[roll9]
[roll10]
[roll11]
[roll12]
[roll13]

Depending on the rolls I'm thinking either a Fochlucan Lyrist or a Windwright Captain. The idea of having my own airship is awfully fun.

18, 18, 17, 17, 13, 12? Wow.

Okay so a Fochlucan Lyrist makes the most sense.

An Aasimar Bard 1 / Rogue 2 / Druid 7 / Fochlucan Lyrist 10 will net me spellcasting as an 11th level Bard and an 17th level Druid.

So after racial adjustments and the +5 stats we can assign, her final stats before any items will be...

STR 12
DEX 16
CON 18
INT 18
WIS 20
CHA 20

samduke

2024-02-23, 09:55 AM

I was asked to add Lioslaith to this.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

Lioslaith
Reshad Hamim (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880626)
Human
Ranger 21
complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Talivan
Enzio Vandersen (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Changeling
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

niw18
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221”]Kurnoc [/URL]
Elan
Psion 11/Flayerspawn Psychic 10
about 20 % complete

Dusk Raven
Benth Ram
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

Darius
Ecé Salebine
Human
Wilder 11/CognitionThief 10
Need gear

watupwithdat
[URL="https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441”)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

Archmage1

2024-02-23, 11:14 AM

Were characters removed from the table deliberately?

Darius, watupwithdat, and Dusk Raven's characters seem to be missing.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Rilem

2024-02-23, 11:29 AM

Whatup’s Snow Elf IS there, but under my name now , and my submission, a human wilder, is missing.

Archmage1

2024-02-23, 11:49 AM

It's strange.
If you hit quote, they're there. Except the table seems to be broken, for some reason.

Archmage1

2024-02-23, 11:54 AM

I think that's the table corrected. I'm not sure what was wrong with a few of the entries: Nothing seemed off, but when I coped a new table set in, and replaced the values, it worked.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

Lioslaith
Reshad Hamim (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880626)
Human
Ranger 21
complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Talivan
Enzio Vandersen (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Changeling
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

niw18
Kurnoc (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221)
Elan
Psion 11 / Flayerspawn Psychic 10
about 20 percent complete

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

kinem
Benth Ram (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

[TR]
Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

rilem
Ecé Salebine (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221)
Human
Wilder 11/CognitionThief 10
Need gear

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441”)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

DrK

2024-02-23, 12:04 PM

Link to Kurnos is working so I’m happy :smallsmile:

samduke

2024-02-23, 12:07 PM

I think that's the table corrected. I'm not sure what was wrong with a few of the entries: Nothing seemed off, but when I coped a new table set in, and replaced the values, it worked.

I noticed that some were left off as well and was trying to fix it by swaping things around, thought I had it fixed but I guess not

Aegis013

2024-02-23, 07:34 PM

Jorrik's link is also still working. Thank you Archmage1 for correcting the table.

Dusk Raven

2024-02-23, 09:03 PM

Should probably update my table to just be "done." I don't have much for my backstory, but it does approach "skirt length" I think. I should still take the time to write a formal paragraph or so, when I can.

Archmage1

2024-03-04, 12:02 PM

How goes the recruitment?

DrK

2024-03-04, 02:49 PM

Hoping it has survived the forum issues

Rilem

2024-03-04, 03:14 PM

Paradox’s active games seem to be on hiatus (check OOC forum) so my guess is that affects this, too.

samduke

2024-03-06, 08:55 AM

Paradox’s active games seem to be on hiatus (check OOC forum) so my guess is that affects this, too.

I know his RL is busy at the moment, though his profile here seems to indicate he was online recently

paradox26

2024-03-06, 10:24 PM

I am sorry to have to do this, but I am at least temporarily pulling out of all of my games. I am not doing so well right now, and this morning I even had to withdraw from the course I was studying due to ill health. I hope to return soon, but right now I simply can't deal with anything, and that includes gaming. I got an email this morning, Sam, saying that you had messaged in the Drow game thread that I had been online. I had, but that was because the forums are my home screen, so they open up whenever I open my web browser. I haven't been actively monitoring them. I will get this game going again soon, but not in the very short term.

Archmage1

2024-03-07, 07:03 AM

No worries, and thank you for the update, paradox! I hope you make a swift and full recovery!

Aegis013

2024-03-07, 07:11 PM

While I appreciate the update, please take care of yourself first, paradox26.

paradox26

2024-04-09, 02:22 AM

Hi everyone. Although I am still suffering the lingering effects of my condition, I am somewhat better. The bad news is my doctor is a gamer, so he understands my situation, and he recommended that I limit the games I am running to one. He thinks I was hypermanic when I started all of my games, and that I should restrain myself. The good news is that this is the game I have decided to keep. I may restart the others at some point, but for now this is the one I am going with.

So who do we still have that are interested in playing? If we don't have enough original applicants, then I will reopen the applications to newcomers.

Also, a last thing I want to say. I am appreciative of your patience in this difficult time for me. Now it is time to repay that.

DrK

2024-04-09, 04:16 AM

I’m glad you are on the mend
Still here

Lioslaith

2024-04-09, 04:34 AM

Definitely still interested in playing

Athaleon

2024-04-09, 04:42 AM

I'm still interested. Need to get the character actually finished now!

paradox26

2024-04-09, 04:48 AM

I'm still interested. Need to get the character actually finished now!

I will give you a couple of days to finish, since I want to give people time to express continued interest.

Yas392

2024-04-09, 04:51 AM

Renewed interest. Need to get sheet up.

@paradox26 Is chameleon class and Dragonlance Material fine with you?

paradox26

2024-04-09, 04:55 AM

Renewed interest. Need to get sheet up.

@paradox26 Is chameleon class and Dragonlance Material fine with you?

Those are both fine.

Archmage1

2024-04-09, 06:17 AM

I am definitely still interested, and I hope you can make a recovery to a more normal mental state! Hypermania and depression can be incredibly devastating!

paradox26

2024-04-09, 06:30 AM

I am definitely still interested, and I hope you can make a recovery to a more normal mental state! Hypermania and depression can be incredibly devastating!

Thanks. My problem is a have a fairly uncommon condition. So as well as hypermania and depression, I get hallucinations too, as well as other symptoms of schizophrenia. They aren't A Beautiful Mind level, but they are disturbing.

kinem

2024-04-09, 07:40 AM

I’m still interested but it may be a few months before I can post actively for such a high level (thus complicated) game. Probably it won’t be a problem if we don’t start out in combat.

paradox26

2024-04-09, 07:45 AM

There is combat very early in this game.

Lioslaith

2024-04-09, 07:47 AM

I’m hoping it doesn’t take a few months to get to combat. lol

Whoops ninja’d

kinem

2024-04-09, 08:14 AM

Well, I’m still interested. I could probably manage. I’m using a phone to post for now, and it’s a bit cumbersome to post rolls that way as well as to look up game info, but it’s ok.

samduke

2024-04-09, 10:10 AM

Dusk Raven

2024-04-09, 10:32 AM

Ready and willing. I believe I still had to write uo the background beyond a paragraph or two, I can work on that if desired.

paradox26

2024-04-09, 12:10 PM

Two or three decent paragraphs will be sufficient.

Aegis013

2024-04-09, 01:31 PM

I'm still very interested.

Feathersnow

2024-04-09, 09:12 PM

I am back and still interested.

watupwithdat

2024-04-10, 09:48 AM

Would need to finish my elf, but I think I remember in what direction I was going with it.

namo

2024-04-10, 04:40 PM

Adding myself to the table; I had expressed interest a long time back, but not finished my sheet.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

Lioslaith
Reshad Hamim (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880626)
Human
Ranger 21
complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Talivan
Enzio Vandersen (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Changeling
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

niw18
Kurnoc (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221)
Elan
Psion 11 / Flayerspawn Psychic 10
about 20 percent complete

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

kinem
Benth Ram (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

[TR]
Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

rilem
EcÃƒÂ© Salebine (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221)
Human
Wilder 11/CognitionThief 10
Need gear

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan ("https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441Ã¢â‚¬Â)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

namo
Yedra, the Blademind ("https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2871098Ã¢â‚¬Â)
Synad
Ranger 1/Warblade 13/Swordsage 1/Master of Nine 5/Swordsage +1
Complete (I may tweak minor things)

I picked Synad (Complete Psionic) as a race because... they're never used, but I could easily change it to something else if for some reason you don't like them.

Yedra is a meleer specializing in single, powerful strikes.

paradox26

2024-04-10, 10:47 PM

Yas392

2024-04-11, 02:10 AM

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

Lioslaith
Reshad Hamim (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880626)
Human
Ranger 21
complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Talivan
Enzio Vandersen (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Changeling
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

niw18
Kurnoc (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221)
Elan
Psion 11 / Flayerspawn Psychic 10
about 20 percent complete

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

kinem
Benth Ram (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

[TR]
Darius
Daruis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877559)
Star Elf
Bard 5 / Stormsinger 5/ Marshall 1/ Sublime Chord 10
Finishing Touches

rilem
EcÃƒÂ© Salebine (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2879221)
Human
Wilder 11/CognitionThief 10
Need gear

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

Da'Shain
Greath Shamea (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878215)
Whisper Gnome
Factotum 19/Swordsage 2
95% (finish equipment/some description)

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441Ã¢â‚¬Â)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

namo
Yedra, the Blademind (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html?id=2871098Ã¢â‚¬Â)
Synad
Ranger 1/Warblade 13/Swordsage 1/Master of Nine 5/Swordsage +1
Complete (I may tweak minor things)

Yas392
Lethe (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2896565)
Human
Martial Rogue 6/Thief-Acrobat 5/Chameleon 10
30%

Dusk Raven

2024-04-11, 02:21 PM

Synad is fine as a race.

I had planned to make selections today, but it looks like several people are still building. We also appear to have lost most of the former applicants. So I will give the current applicants a couple of days more to finish. After so long an absence it shouldn’t matter if we take a couple more days. Let me know when you are finished so I know I can pick from your application.

But be quick. I want to get the game going soon.

I was gonna put the backstory off until tonight, but then I just... went and did it. Here goes!

The Rayza family once had respect, wealth, and noble title (Count, specifically). But unfortunately, it also took too much of an interest in the Underdark - and more specifically, of stopping the plans of those living within it. When one too many slave raids were fouled by Rayza retainers, the drow suspected that the noble house had some sort of special insight or information into drow affairs, and that could not be allowed to stand. Thus, House Rayza would be brought down, not by force of arms, but by subterfuge and assassination - and with the aid of another noble family that sought Rayza holdings. The destruction of the family was not complete, however, for there was one survivor - Calliopi Rayza, middle daughter of the family's head. This was largely because she had been sent away to hone her martial skills with a teacher (what else do you do with a daughter as tall and athletic as her, despite her skinniness?) - but when she returned, she found nothing left to claim. She was left with nothing but some money, her mentor, and a cold, implacable desire for revenge.

That determination would be the catalyst for psionic potential - and while this certainly reinforced (or perhaps, merely salvaged) her sense of innate superiority, her psionic nature was mostly a tool for her, a weapon to sharpen into something she could impale drow with. In time, her abilities could only be improved by practical experience, and she set out to work as a mercenary. For a time, she took work protecting maritime vessels - for her family once had a number of cargo and trading ships in their employ, and while she was effectively no longer their employer, some were still loyal enough to give her a job as protector. And she certainly got her share of experience with pirates. Some she coldly dissuaded or intimidated, but the rest she killed with her weapon of choice, a crystal scythe, capable of both elegant grace and horrific dismemberment. In time she moved on from this, however, and went adventuring, taking whatever work would bring her more experience with the Underdark. Eager though she was for revenge, she knew she had to be prepared. Besides, her hated foes were elves. They weren't going to die of old age before she got to them.

By now, she has developed a formidable set of skills. She is a master of her scythe, and is bound to it on a psychic level. Her psionic abilities, indeed, are mostly about augmenting her martial prowess. The scythe is an esoteric weapon, it's true, but she likes it, as a subtle sign that she's different from others... though, to her chagrin, the scythe did once land her a job protecting a farming village, whose people were willing to pay her fee if she also helped out with the harvest. Of course, her travels have also given her experience in a variety of worldly matters, and not just farming. In particular, she's learned how to interact with people. She had always had some training in this, being a noble daughter, but she's since learned how to speak to people without them believing she treats them with contempt. Chilly and aloof, perhaps, but not arrogant. Make no mistake, she holds a good opinion of herself, and though she is a countess of nothing, she is still a noble. But her pride does not outweigh necessity. In the pursuit of her revenge - and of gaining enough riches to build herself a demesne - she'll wade through mud, eat trail rations, hack her way out of slimes (whoever put that gelatinous cube there was a deranged, psychopathic bastard), and try to wash drow blood out of her nice clothes. Those are mere indignities compared to the loss of her family and house.

And thus we have Calliopi Rayza, primarily proficient in scythes, psychic powers, and attacks of opportunity, but also with good social skills - as well as 5 ranks in Profession (Sailor) and 1 in Profession (Farmer) for no other reason than flavor. This is unlikely to be relevant, but it's there.

Archmage1

2024-04-11, 02:53 PM

So... I went ahead and updated the table to only include people who had posted that they retained interest, which did cut a few entries out. If I missed you, or your complete state is incorrect, I can edit, or you can repost, and edit.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Lioslaith
Reshad Hamim (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880626)
Human
Ranger 21
complete

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441Ã¢â‚¬Â)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

Yas392
Lethe (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2896565)
Human
Martial Rogue 6/Thief-Acrobat 5/Chameleon 10
30%

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

kinem
Benth Ram (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

Samduke
Ivory (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877422)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

namo
Yedra, the Blademind (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html?id=2871098Ã¢â‚¬Â)
Synad
Ranger 1/Warblade 13/Swordsage 1/Master of Nine 5/Swordsage +1
Complete (I may tweak minor things)

Zarthrax

2024-04-11, 02:57 PM

Still interested, although I'll have to rebuild my entry.

paradox26

2024-04-12, 12:21 AM

Thanks for that Archmage1.

samduke

2024-04-12, 07:21 AM

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Lioslaith
Reshad Hamim (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880626)
Human
Ranger 21
complete

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441Ã¢â‚¬Â)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

Yas392
Lethe (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2896565)
Human
Martial Rogue 6/Thief-Acrobat 5/Chameleon 10
30%

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

kinem
Benth Ram (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

Samduke
Ivory (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lVu6PbuKvONNQY_N61Tcs91nVSZrnZqcPIvI8odMdj8/edit?usp=sharing)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

namo
Yedra, the Blademind (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html?id=2871098Ã¢â‚¬Â)
Synad
Ranger 1/Warblade 13/Swordsage 1/Master of Nine 5/Swordsage +1
Complete (I may tweak minor things)

I updated my link as I realized I had not done so recently

paradox26

2024-04-13, 02:31 AM

Okay, looks like everyone is nearly or completely done. I will be picking tomorrow, so make sure you get the final stuff in. And make sure you have at least some background. I don't normally pick characters without one.

Also, just for the record, there are two assured places already. SamDuke and Lioslaith are assured a place, so I will take three extras, to give as many people as possible a place in the game without it being too overwhelming.

DrK

2024-04-13, 02:39 AM

Thanks for the heads up @Paradox26
Don’t envy the choosing from all the candidates

paradox26

2024-04-13, 02:45 AM

I know. I quite enjoy answering character build questions during recruitment, and I enjoy the actual gaming. But selection time sucks. Especially because everyone who has applied I have gamed with before, and all of you are solid players.

Athaleon

2024-04-13, 10:15 AM

I'm gonna push to finish today if at all possible. Gotta revise his spells somewhat, now that I recall this was supposed to be lower-powered (for Epic 3.5) and my Dwarf's spells were to be voluntarily restricted by theme.

Edit: Planned to finish today, got called in to work instead. Oh well—good luck to those remaining!

Also, some URLs got broken by some weird copypaste error or some such, I believe I have fixed them.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Lioslaith
Reshad Hamim (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880626)
Human
Ranger 21
complete

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

Yas392
Lethe (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2896565)
Human
Martial Rogue 6/Thief-Acrobat 5/Chameleon 10
30%

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

kinem
Benth Ram (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

Samduke
Ivory (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lVu6PbuKvONNQY_N61Tcs91nVSZrnZqcPIvI8odMdj8/edit?usp=sharing)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

namo
Yedra, the Blademind (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html?id=2871098)
Synad
Ranger 1/Warblade 13/Swordsage 1/Master of Nine 5/Swordsage +1
Complete (I may tweak minor things)

watupwithdat

2024-04-13, 11:22 AM

Won't be able to finalize my character for tomorrow, so I'll withdraw.

Yas392

2024-04-13, 02:10 PM

Updated table. Fluff is done. Just need to finish mechanics and spells.

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Lioslaith
Reshad Hamim (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880626)
Human
Ranger 21
complete

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

Yas392
Lethe (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2896565)
Human
Martial Rogue 6/Thief-Acrobat 5/Chameleon 10
Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

kinem
Benth Ram (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

Samduke
Ivory (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lVu6PbuKvONNQY_N61Tcs91nVSZrnZqcPIvI8odMdj8/edit?usp=sharing)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

namo
Yedra, the Blademind (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html?id=2871098)
Synad
Ranger 1/Warblade 13/Swordsage 1/Master of Nine 5/Swordsage +1
Complete (I may tweak minor things)

EDIT: Character is done.

Talivan

2024-04-14, 01:39 AM

Reposting Interest and entry :smallsmile:

Player
Character
Race
Classes
Complete

DrK
Kurnos (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877743)
Wood Elf
(wild reaper) Druid 21
complete

Lioslaith
Reshad Hamim (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880626)
Human
Ranger 21
complete

Athaleon
Urist "Krag" Kragannan (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2880441)
Dwarf
Wizard 5/Paragnostic Apostle 4/Geometer 3/Earth Dreamer 5/Warblade 1/Runesmith 3
Needs Spells & Fluff

Yas392
Lethe (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=2896565)
Human
Martial Rogue 6/Thief-Acrobat 5/Chameleon 10
Complete

Archmage1
Coman (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878254)
Human
Barbarian 10/Champion of Gwynharwyf 10/Warblade 1
Complete

kinem
Benth Ram (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2564206)
Dwarf
Spirit Shaman 20 / Demonwrecker 1
Basically ready

Samduke
Ivory (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lVu6PbuKvONNQY_N61Tcs91nVSZrnZqcPIvI8odMdj8/edit?usp=sharing)
Silverbrow Human
Cleric 6/ Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/ Divine Disciple 5/ Contemplative 6
Complete

Dusk Raven
Calliopi Rayza (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877473)
Human
Human Paragon 3/Psychic Warrior 8/Psychic Weapon Master 10
Mechanically Complete

Aegis013
Jorrik Worldshield (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877746)
Dream Dwarf
Crusader 5/Hellreaver 5/Deepwarden 2/Crusader +9
Complete

Feathersnow
Elsien Peasebloosom (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877693)
Gray Elf
Spellthief7/SC3->Noctumancer 11
Complete

watupwithdat
Cardan Tirdis (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2878114)
Snow Elf
Warblade 7/Fighter 2/Champion of Corellon Larethian 2/Eternal Blade 10
70%

namo
Yedra, the Blademind (https://og.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html?id=2871098)
Synad
Ranger 1/Warblade 13/Swordsage 1/Master of Nine 5/Swordsage +1
Complete (I may tweak minor things)

Talivan
Enzio Vandersen (https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2877795)
Changeling
Rogue 13 / Warblade 3 / Invisible Blade 5
Complete