Scion: Hero (OOC)

[Kish]

Benoojian
Meztli "Max" Adams (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LfktqnbwMapkEDOK3a6KdcxicrlOYRtv/view?usp=sharing)
Social Justice Warrior
Atzlanti
Tezcatlipoca


DeTess
Liliana Cypher (https://forums.giantitp.com/showsinglepost.php?p=25958765&postcount=34)
Information Broker
Aesir
Loki


Justanotherhero
Julian Eldridge (https://docs.google.com/document/d/11d6TaDjHd_rYTqzYfLS6SjYl46QliwcH6zDv5SujaUQ/edit)
Ghost Hunter
Pesedjet
Osiris


Kaworu
Mateusz Śląski (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1liGn03xFHGyHSVUdQ6MSw3Q1t8fF2x0n/view)
Friendly Astrophysicist
Pesedjet
Horus


PoeticallyPsyco
Brandon Flynne (https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Xy1YVKikTUCyvr3IeE1PSMkFgBwrWig/view)
Champion
Tuatha de Danann
Brigid

[DeTess]

Heya, just checking in to get a nice checkmark on the thread.

[Kish]

Some of you definitely gave me more than others to work with insofar as introductory scene(s). In the interests of getting everyone involved as quickly as possible, I'm saying that whether or not you've met in person, all of you are at least known to Liliana, who has gathered you together at an office building in downtown Savannah in response to a request she received to bring "people like us," phrased elliptically but in a way that left no doubt it meant Scions, together to help with something urgent.

[Cassus]

So to make sure I'm following, everyone who applied was accepted, and the IC will be up in a while?

Also, did you want more from me about introductions?

[Kaworu]

Hello :3 nice to meet you all :3

[Justanotherhero]

Thanks for accepting the character!

Getting a subscription on the thread. Julian will show up to the meeting and just in case someone is watching:
Julian is armed and Zahir stays in the car driving, an older F 150, parked a block away as back up.

[Benoojian]

Max is also 'armed'...as in his arms are deadly weapons

[Cassus]

Max is also 'armed'...as in his arms are deadly weapons

So does he wear armor, or does he believe in the right to bare arms?

[Kish]

IC thread (https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?665067-Scion-Hero-(IC)) is up.

[DeTess]

@Kish, just a quick question to make sure i properly understand the situation.

Liliana got a letter that said 'come to this address, and bring any other scions you know, cos ****'s going down' (probably worded a bit nicer), and distributed it to the others, correct? Or is she expected to chair the meeting? Mostly trying to determine if I was there all along or will be arriving like anyone else.

[Kish]

Liliana is arriving with everyone else, yes. This is not somewhere she has been before and (unless it turns out to be Loki himself) the person who called her here is not someone she's previously familiar with.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

As a heads up, Brandon can hear lies (the Takes One To Know One knack), so if your character has secrets you want to keep (or if you want to drop some hints about secrets you have) be careful of your words. Brand probably won't reveal that talent in-character until it's necessary.

[Benoojian]

As a heads up, Brandon can hear lies (the Takes One To Know One knack), so if your character has secrets you want to keep (or if you want to drop some hints about secrets you have) be careful of your words. Brand probably won't reveal that talent in-character until it's necessary.

Max also has Take One to Know One, so please mark in your IC posts if you tell an outright lie. It does not detect half-truths or lies of omission, only actual lies. It does not tell which part is a lie, only that there was a lie. Note: God's Honest cancels out with this, so it goes back to a roll if you lie with that.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

As a heads up, Brandon can hear lies (the Takes One To Know One knack), so if your character has secrets you want to keep (or if you want to drop some hints about secrets you have) be careful of your words. Brand probably won't reveal that talent in-character until it's necessary.


Max also has Take One to Know One, so please mark in your IC posts if you tell an outright lie. It does not detect half-truths or lies of omission, only actual lies. It does not tell which part is a lie, only that there was a lie. Note: God's Honest cancels out with this, so it goes back to a roll if you lie with that.

Forgot to mention Stench Of Guilt, which is a similar thing. If a topic comes up that reminds someone "of a misdeed [they are] keeping secret", Brand also notices that (though not what the secret is or even what part of the conversation reminded the person of it). They don't have to actually feel guilty about it; as long as they've taken steps to conceal whatever secret it is, they trigger the knack.

It's kind of funny. Trying to go behind Brand's back metaphorically is extremely difficult. Trying to do so literally is almost guaranteed to succeed; his Perception is abysmal and his Awareness is 0. (Both in-character and out-of-character, his two Manipulation knacks are to compensate for that, making it so he won't get fooled again).

[Justanotherhero]

Julian attempts to hear out lies although he is not the best at it.

Man (2) + Empathy (1) + 1 automatic success from Epic Manipulation.

[roll0]

[Kish]

With four successes, everything she's saying rings true.

(And, to be explicit, she hasn't tripped anyone's Takes One to Know One.)

[DeTess]

Anything I can roll to see if I can identify the artifact?

[PoeticallyPsyco]

This is my first time doing a play-by-post. Should I put Brandon's inner thoughts and observations in the IC thread? He probably won't be speaking up, yet, so it feels weird having a post of purely internal action.

[DeTess]

This is my first time doing a play-by-post. Should I put Brandon's inner thoughts and observations in the IC thread? He probably won't be speaking up, yet, so it feels weird having a post of purely internal action.

In my experience that's very much up to you. If you want to have a reason to speak up though, I could toss a question about the artifact your way, as it seems related to your pantheon.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

In my experience that's very much up to you. If you want to have a reason to speak up though, I could toss a question about the artifact your way, as it seems related to your pantheon.

That would be great, thanks.

However, I don't expect my 0 dots in Occult to produce great results.

@Kish
Would Int + Academics be acceptable for trying to recall something similar from history, or is it Occult or bust?

[Kish]

Actually, I was about to say the roll is Intelligence+Academics by default for that. You can attempt the roll, everyone, as long as you have at least Intelligence 2. (Trying with a dice pool of 1 and the no-Academics penalty would be pointless.)

[Justanotherhero]

Julian is not a Celtic specialist but death and sickness are what he should be an expert after all for what did father leave that huge library in this world if not to provide adequate education. And a sword that makes people sick instead of killing them does appear rather unique. Wasn't there something about the great illness following the second Ramses fires? But there where alot of fires.

Int (2) + Academics (3) + 1 Epic Int Automatic Success.

[roll0]

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Actually, I was about to say the roll is Intelligence+Academics by default for that. You can attempt the roll, everyone, as long as you have at least Intelligence 2. (Trying with a dice pool of 1 and the no-Academics penalty would be pointless.)

Nice.

Int 4 + Aca 2 + 1 Epic
[roll0]

EDIT: Next question. How do I roll? Clearly I'm missing a crucial step.

[Justanotherhero]

Nice.

Int 4 + Aca 2 + 1 Epic
[roll0]

EDIT: Next question. How do I roll? Clearly I'm missing a crucial step.

No worries I always have to copy the command and then modify it then to:

https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?360837-This-is-how-you-use-the-Dice-Roller

[Kish]

Nice.

Int 4 + Aca 2 + 1 Epic
[roll0]

EDIT: Next question. How do I roll? Clearly I'm missing a crucial step.

You need to type 6d10 + 1 Epic Intelligence. Editing or previewing will wreck the roll.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

[roll0] + 1 Epic Int

[DeTess]

[roll0] + 2 auto succeses from epic int.

I think Liliana might have a clue with 8 successes XD

[Kaworu]

My roll:

[roll0] + 2 automatic successes per Epic Intelligence

[DeTess]

@kish, how open are you to players establishing the existence of stuff like student newspapers, gossip rags and the like? If you want full control, I'll need the following for a post I'll probably make soon after the current scene ends.

Existence and name if any and all student papers ir fraternity publications and the like.
Existence and name of widely distributed local affairs paper ( I don't know if those are a thing in the USA, but where I live everyone who doesn't opt out gets one of those every week with local news and the like)
Existence and name of local gossip/superstition/conspiracy paper (the kind with gossip about ufo and bigfoot sightings and the lizard cabals that secretly control the gov and the like)

If you are fine with it, I can come up with all the above myself of course.

[Kish]

Making up the name and existence of things like that is fine (under most circumstances).

[Kish]

Liliana, Julian, Mateusz, Brand, 5 XP each.

Liliana, please make an Intelligence+Investigation roll. Everyone, please make Intelligence+Occult rolls.

[Kish]

Brand is overcome by a wave of vertigo. He thinks Elena's highest Virtue is Courage, her lowest is Piety, and her nature is Gallant, but he's not sure of any. When he recovers his balance, he sees that she's staring straight at him with a look of shock.

Edited: Botch rerolled to 3 successes so that's not the result.

He's sure Elena's Nature is Judge. Oddly, she doesn't appear to have Virtues.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

[roll0] + 1 Epic Int

[Kish]

Brand, also make an Intelligence + Investigation roll.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

[roll0] +1 Epic Int

[Justanotherhero]

Julian will be spending one Willpower point on this and invest a night or two since he wants to be able to prove that these goat men have no association with Osiris who is associated with the Ram.

Int(2) + Occult (3) + 1 Suc. Epic Int.+ 1 Suc. Willpower

[roll0]

If I could add a stunt could I maybe recover the willpower?

[DeTess]

Investigation: [roll0] +2 epic int
Occult: [roll1] +2 epic int

[Kaworu]

My Intelligence + Occult Roll:

[roll0] + 2 automatic successes

EDIT:

Boooooo :-( That's a TERRIBLE ROLL :-( Luckily I have the +2 automatic successes per Epic Intelligence... BUT STILL! >:(

[Kish]

You're pretty sure "goat-men" aren't anything from your pantheon.

What you can find suggests that "goat-men" are likely satyrs, a race of titanspawn associated with the Dodekatheon. Yes, Julian, your description qualifies as enough of a stunt to regain your spent Willpower.

Satyrs are actually the children of Pan, formerly a Dodekatheon god, who had a falling out with his pantheon which caused him to ally with the Titans.

Pan is a son of Hermes. Because Pan's physical appearance resembled a goat-human hybrid, hairy and with hooves, he was tormented by the other gods of the Dodekatheon, especially Apollo, with Zeus's tacit or active approval, until finally he left Olympus. The way he was treated is widely recognized as appalling by everyone outside the Dodekatheon who knows of it, but since he aligned himself with the Titans, what he and his children have done has been much worse.

Both of you find a list of all the fraternities at Georgia State University without too much difficulty.


Alpha Epsilon Pi Fraternity
Alpha Sigma Rho Sorority, Inc.
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.
Alpha Omicron Pi Women's Fraternity
Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc.
Alpha Tau Omega Fraternity
Alpha Xi Delta Women's Fraternity
Delta Epsilon Psi Fraternity, Inc.
Delta Phi Lambda Sorority, Inc.
Delta Phi Omega Sorority, Inc.
Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.
Delta Zeta Sorority
Iota Phi Theta Fraternity, Inc.
Kappa Sigma Fraternity
Lambda Theta Alpha Latin Sorority, Inc.
Lambda Theta Phi Latin Fraternity, Inc.
La Unidad Latina, Lambda Upsilon Lambda Fraternity, Inc.
Omega Phi Beta Soririty, Inc.
Phi Alpha Nu Fraternity
Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc.
Phi Iota Alpha Fraternity, Inc.
Phi Mu Women's Fraternity
Pi Delta Psi Fraternity, Inc.
Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity
Pi Kappa Phi Fraternity
Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc.
Sigma Lambda Upsilon Sorority, Inc.
Sigma Nu Fraternity
Sigma Sigma Rho Sorority, Inc.
Theta Nu Xi Multicultural Sorority, Inc.
Zeta Tau Alpha Women's Fraternity

That's all Brand finds.

Liliana conspicuously doesn't find any of the things she's looking for. Adjusting her research when she suspects that satyrs are involved, she does learn that the Phi Alpha Nu fraternity is known for its wild parties, but in light of what she's learned about satyrs, she would certainly expect...if perhaps not outright rape allegations, certainly a statistically significant pattern of female students dropping out, showing negative lifestyle changes, or at least starting to actively avoid Phi Alpha Nu after those parties; that very much doesn't seem to be the case.

[DeTess]

@Kish, when is Phi Alpha Nu's next big party? They might not be a perfect match, but it's stilla lead worth checking out.

edit: Only properly processed the name now, They are almost guaranteed the group we're after.

[Benoojian]

[roll0] Int Occult and 1 Epic Intelligence success

[DeTess]

Benoojian, are you referring to my character or miss Kessler?

[Benoojian]

Benoojian, are you referring to my character or miss Kessler?

I misread the thread, let me edit that out.

Edit: Yeah I mixed up Liliana and Elena when I was rushing to catch up.

[DeTess]

No problem. Liliana is going a bit on the offensive over this, hope you don't mind. Telling the occasional untruth is a thing she does and will continue to do, and it is something Max will have to learn to live with.

edit: in case there are OOC worries about this aspect of my character, she won't ever hold back important information unless revealing that info is actively dangerous to her. Nor will she run big lies or cons against other player characters, once again unless not doing so would cause direct harm to her. She might make little lies, or hold back information for a portion of a scene, just to see how other characters react or act, though that will stop happening once she knows and trusts the others. The Lie Max caught her in, for example, was because she was curious how Brand would answer her question so she didn't immediately tell what she remembered, instead asking him first.

[Kish]

Ah, good, you didn't disappear! Your research gets you the same information as Mateusz.

Phi Alpha Nu has a party planned for three days from today, a Friday.

[DeTess]

Btw, at what moments can we spend XP?

[PoeticallyPsyco]

@Liliana, Mateusz
Do one or both of you want to train with Brand in the three days before the party? If not, I'll have to find an NPC class to guest star in or something, since I'm getting dangerously close to the once-per-week deadline of Brand's geas. (This offer is, of course, open to everyone).

Also, does anyone want a Vigil Brand before the mission? I can place up to 7 of them before running out of Legend, but as far as I can tell they don't expire, so better to place them early and then regain the Legend later.

[Benoojian]

So I don't have all the info ic, so I can't post it there yet, but between Elena missing virtues and the Fraternity being mysteriously 'tame', I have a sneaking suspicion that either the sword or the titanspawn wielding it can literally cut out your passions. So try not to get hit I guess.


@Liliana, Mateusz
Do one or both of you want to train with Brand in the three days before the party? If not, I'll have to find an NPC class to guest star in or something, since I'm getting dangerously close to the once-per-week deadline of Brand's geas. (This offer is, of course, open to everyone).


Are there specific things Brand needs to teach? I don't have the XP yet, but training is a good excuse to use it as soon as I do.

On that note, missing one roll was 5xp penalty? really?

[DeTess]

@Liliana, Mateusz
Do one or both of you want to train with Brand in the three days before the party? If not, I'll have to find an NPC class to guest star in or something, since I'm getting dangerously close to the once-per-week deadline of Brand's geas. (This offer is, of course, open to everyone).

Also, does anyone want a Vigil Brand before the mission? I can place up to 7 of them before running out of Legend, but as far as I can tell they don't expire, so better to place them early and then regain the Legend later.

Liliana would definitely want the vigil brand. I'll have her mention so IC sometime soonish. If Brand offers, she'll also take him up on the training before the party, just as a way to practice and get ready, for the job.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

So I don't have all the info ic, so I can't post it there yet, but between Elena missing virtues and the Fraternity being mysteriously 'tame', I have a sneaking suspicion that either the sword or the titanspawn wielding it can literally cut out your passions. So try not to get hit I guess.

My pet theory is a little more sinister, but it doesn't explain the tame satyrs.


Are there specific things Brand needs to teach? I don't have the XP yet, but training is a good excuse to use it as soon as I do.

Brand needs to teach Brawl at least once a week to satisfy his Skill Geas, or it will invert itself (turning the current bonuses to the associated ability, which is also Brawl, into equivalent penalties). Right now, that would effectively cost me 4 automatic successes on every Brawl roll. Once I increase my Legend, that will double. So yeah, something I'm very keen to avoid.

Depending on when we can spend XP, the Teaching Prodigy knack will either be the first or second thing I pick up, letting anyone that trains under me purchase dots in Brawl (or whatever else I'm teaching) at half the normal XP cost. Only fair to reward people for helping me with something so crucial to my character.

[Kaworu]

@Liliana, Mateusz
Do one or both of you want to train with Brand in the three days before the party? If not, I'll have to find an NPC class to guest star in or something, since I'm getting dangerously close to the once-per-week deadline of Brand's geas. (This offer is, of course, open to everyone).

Actually, I *DO* wanna martial arts training UwU

Maybe Athletics too? :-P I have just one dot :-P

[Kish]

Btw, at what moments can we spend XP?
Potentially any, depending on what you're spending it on. Gaining Academics should normally take place in a school or library setting; gaining Epic Strength during a battle is very suitably legendary.


On that note, missing one roll was 5xp penalty? really?
Actually, when you didn't post for over a week after your initial post, I thought you'd dropped out of the game. So yes, 5 XP for you too.

My pet theory is a little more sinister, but it doesn't explain the tame satyrs.

Now I'm curious.

[Benoojian]

Actually, when you didn't post for over a week after your initial post, I thought you'd dropped out of the game. So yes, 5 XP for you too.


Sorry, didn't realize how long it had been.



Brand needs to teach Brawl at least once a week to satisfy his Skill Geas, or it will invert itself (turning the current bonuses to the associated ability, which is also Brawl, into equivalent penalties). Right now, that would effectively cost me 4 automatic successes on every Brawl roll. Once I increase my Legend, that will double. So yeah, something I'm very keen to avoid.

Depending on when we can spend XP, the Teaching Prodigy knack will either be the first or second thing I pick up, letting anyone that trains under me purchase dots in Brawl (or whatever else I'm teaching) at half the normal XP cost. Only fair to reward people for helping me with something so crucial to my character.

Does he have to be teaching someone less skilled than him or is just running a class sufficient?

Also is having two people with Teaching Prodigy worth it, cause it was also first on my plan? (Well arguing between Epic Dex 2 or Epic Int 2)

[PoeticallyPsyco]

By the way, how old is everyone's character? I'm trying to picture who could pass as a student and who would need some other cover story. I made Brand 22 years old; on the upper bound for an undergraduate, but he started college late.

[Kish]

He has to be teaching someone with fewer dots in the ability than him. Otherwise, no one's learning anything and the geas isn't fulfilled.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Potentially any, depending on what you're spending it on. Gaining Academics should normally take place in a school or library setting; gaining Epic Strength during a battle is very suitably legendary.

In that case, I'd like to spend 5XP on a second dot of Epic Intelligence, grabbing the Teaching Prodigy knack. (Am I remembering right that it's current level X5 for an unassociated Epic, not new level X5?)


Now I'm curious.

So, Ms. Kessler doesn't have any Virtues, and didn't identify herself as a Scion (just claimed she wasn't used to dealing with "those like [herself]", which could mean practically anything). Therefore I'd guess she's some other manner of supernatural being, not directly tied to either a pantheon or the Titans (thus no Virtues, not even Dark Virtues).

Her friend has an "affliction" that's "caused by titanspawn". Could be that he's a titanspawn himself, with some consequence arising from that.

Third known point: Ms. Kessler wants a knife that's only known trait is phenomenal cutting power.

What's the worst case scenario here? She's trying to sever the ties that bind Fenrir. "Caused by titanspawn" is a bit of a stretch for the titanic wolf's imprisonment, but I think it would be fair to argue that he was imprisoned because it was too easy to look at him with his monstrous body and terrifying strength and compare him to titanspawn running rampant; he hadn't committed any crimes himself, and is suffering for the crimes of titanspawn (and Odin's failure to grasp the concept of 'self-fulfilling prophecy').


Also is having two people with Teaching Prodigy worth it, cause it was also first on my plan? (Well arguing between Epic Dex 2 or Epic Int 2)

Thinking about it, I feel like actually having two Scions with that knack would be even better than just one. The only thing better than XP discounts is more XP discounts.

[Benoojian]

Is the Willpower equals sum of Virtues-2 only for character creation? That is, do they increase separately now?

[DeTess]

By the way, how old is everyone's character? I'm trying to picture who could pass as a student and who would need some other cover story. I made Brand 22 years old; on the upper bound for an undergraduate, but he started college late.

Liliana would be 25-ish, but shouldn't have much trouble making herself look a little younger.

[Kish]

(Am I remembering right that it's current level X5 for an unassociated Epic, not new level X5?)

Yes, that's correct.

Is the Willpower equals sum of Virtues-2 only for character creation? That is, do they increase separately now?
They do, yes.

[Kaworu]

My character is... I did not think about it yet xD He graduated with a Master's degree (once course - he had individual teaching of astrophysics and computer science) so he is... somewhere between 25 and 30, rather closer to 25? Maybe 26 or 27?

LOL, I have no idea xD

[Justanotherhero]

Also, does anyone want a Vigil Brand before the mission? I can place up to 7 of them before running out of Legend, but as far as I can tell they don't expire, so better to place them early and then regain the Legend later.

Strange magic I have never seen before. Oh yes please.
Julian would watch it with the Unlided Eye because well curiousity if you are ok with that?


By the way, how old is everyone's character? I'm trying to picture who could pass as a student and who would need some other cover story. I made Brand 22 years old; on the upper bound for an undergraduate, but he started college late.


Age wise I see Osiris having had a hand in „guiding“ Julian’s education which would put him at 25 almost 26. Although I see him looking a bit older and like Osiris just not really changing a lot with time.

@Kish also character idea since I am reviewing his CV. I did not write it in the original character backstory. But would it be ok if he has a B.A in Japanese? I can see Osiris guiding him in that direction. The diving certifications probably happened in the Mediterranean.
(Academics rating is 3 and I think with divine Intelligence I might be able to pull that off?)

[Kish]

Yes, that's fine.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Strange magic I have never seen before. Oh yes please.
Julian would watch it with the Unlided Eye because well curiousity if you are ok with that?

No problem!

EDIT: Though if I'm reading this right, it will cause us to become Fatebound. Since Scions can't be forced into a Fatebound Role, though, I think that would only cause coincidence to throw us together more frequently?

[Kish]

Scions can absolutely be Fatebound. (The first core book even mentions offhandedly that one of the reasons gods don't fight each other, is that any significant fight between two gods is likely to leave them both thoroughly Fatebound to each other from the amount of Legend they'd be throwing around.)

[Justanotherhero]

No problem!

EDIT: Though if I'm reading this right, it will cause us to become Fatebound. Since Scions can't be forced into a Fatebound Role, though, I think that would only cause coincidence to throw us together more frequently?

I did not read the Fate section of the Core Rulebook thoroughly the first time. I was more roughly aware of its existence. But yes now I agree since we are using legend with each other as targets that is a possibility.

[Kish]

That's not it. Spells always result in Fatebinding, because manipulating Fate is what they do. Such a low-level spell is unlikely to result in a particularly strong Fatebinding, but it's guaranteed.

On another subject, if I'm understanding your current plan, you're going to Atlanta, finding a place to stay there, and then going to the college to look for information prior to Friday evening (I'll need more specifics for that last clause).

[Benoojian]

Gitp is acting up again.

Does anyone have computer skills?

[Kaworu]

I've got 3 dots in Computer Science and 3 in Craft (Electronics) :D

[Benoojian]

I've got 3 dots in Computer Science and 3 in Craft (Electronics) :D

I could pick up Teaching prodigy and teach you the first dot in larceny and/or stealth and we could break into the campus files together? See if someone is covering up for the frat. I’d take the physical files and you the electronic.

[Kaworu]

Hm... this plan does seem good, buuuut... It is completely out of my character concept to have dots in stealth/larceny or to break into some building at night, especially if the building belongs to the university... xD Sorry? xD

EDIT: Also, I do not have this knack for teaching people xD I mean, both math genius and fast learning seemed to fit my character perfectly and... xD

Im so sorry xD

[Benoojian]

No worries, I have the fast learner knack, so it's already as cheap as it's going to get.

Guess I'm spending 1xp and a few hours learning Science:Computers dot 1. Do you want to write out the scene?

[Kaworu]

We can do the scene if you wanna? ;-)

[Kish]

Okay, so let me verify: your current plan is for Max to break into the registrar's office Wednesday night and see if he finds anything suspicious in the computers. Friday night you're all going to the party (assuming Max doesn't find anything extreme enough to make you change your plans). And you're also planning on investigating on campus during the day Thursday and Friday (I need more details here).

[DeTess]

That looks right. Liliana will do a tour of the campus to get a feeling of the mood on the ground, then spend some time observing the fraternity house from a covered space (might be a lookout spot that's hidden, or a place like a cafe or the like with a good view, etc).

[PoeticallyPsyco]

On all three days, Brand is also renting a studio for training anyone that wants it. Not sure if the timing matters, but I'll say from 9am to 12pm.

[Kish]

Okay, if your plans are complete, then to determine what exactly happens I need Dexterity+Stealth, Perception+Awareness, and Intelligence+Science rolls from Max, and Perception+Investigation rolls from everyone. (If you don't have the applicable Ability, then roll the Attribute at -2 dice, which might mean not being able to roll; Epics still apply, and please highlight if you have any Knacks that seem likely to affect what you're doing.)

[PoeticallyPsyco]

No rolls for me; guess it's time to pay the piper for my character building sacrifices.

[DeTess]

[roll0]+1 automatic success.

Potential relevant knacks: social chameleon(blending in), instant imvestigator(quickly casing any suspicious scenes), multitasking, language mastery.

[Justanotherhero]

If we get the chance to observe the fraternity house Julian would use Unlidded Eye to check for Magic. If we get the chance I will reduce my Legend Points accordingly.

Per (2) + Investigation (1) + 1 Success Epic Perception . + Potential Bonus through binoculars?

[roll0]

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Oh, I also spend one more Legend to mark the front entrance of our shared house with a Vigil Brand, on the inside of the doorframe between the hinges, where it's completely covered while the door is closed and subtle even when open. Even the landlord probably won't notice for a while. But anyone trying to force their way through that entrance, or worse, destroy the whole house, will give Brand a bit of advance warning.

[Benoojian]

Dexterity+Stealth, Perception+Awareness, and Intelligence+Science rolls from Max

Dex Stealth [roll0] +1 Auto Success
Per Awareness [roll1], tapping Conviction
Int Sci:Comp [roll2] +1 Auto Success

[Kaworu]

Just one die for me xD

[roll0]

[DeTess]

@kish, can I tail one of the satirs?

[Kish]

Yes. Dexterity+Stealth.

[DeTess]

[roll0]
Andsomemorecharacters

Edit: that feels like it might not be enough. I think I could spend a point of legend to get 3 auto successes, right? Should I have declared that in advance or not?

And this seems limited by legend times per 'story'. That would be untill we're done with retrieving this dagger, or is it a limit for the entire campaign?

[Kish]

You can spend a point of Legend to add your Legend rating in auto-successes to a roll you've made but I haven't yet described the results of, yes. The overall campaign (cycle, Scion calls it) will include multiple stories; I'll let you know when all "per story" things reset. For now, do you wish to spend a Legend point to make tailing the satyr 5 successes rather than 2 successes?

(Alternatively, you could spend a Willpower point for one success, leaving you with 3 successes. There's no limit on the number of times per story you can do that--beyond your Willpower rating.)

[DeTess]

Hmmmm. No, going for the willpower option then. 3 successes should hopefully be enough.

So current willpower would be 6/7.

[Kaworu]

Hi! ;-)

Thinking about the Martial Arts training session - could my character also get trained in Athletics (he has just 1 dot)? I believe 5 EXP would suffice for both (I have also 2 dots in Brawl).

[DeTess]

@kaworu, you didn't receive the first message, only the mail. The message was send only to Brand.

[Kish]

Hi! ;-)

Thinking about the Martial Arts training session - could my character also get trained in Athletics (he has just 1 dot)? I believe 5 EXP would suffice for both (I have also 2 dots in Brawl).
That's fine with me. Increasing an ability associated with your divine parent from 2 to 3 is (2X2)-1=3 experience points, and increasing one from 1 to 2 is (2x1)-1=1 experience point.

[Kaworu]

@kaworu, you didn't receive the first message, only the mail. The message was send only to Brand.

Hi ;-)

I know, but I could swear that Brand has send us later info with his location, asking for help? I mean, the forum is kinda lagging so I cannot send you a quote, but I really believe it was like that? And this is what I have been refering to.

Of course, I could have misread something, then of course I am very sorry.

ALSO: the forum is not showing me this "post bar" with URL, quote, spoiler, fonts, colors and other options. Is it meant to be like that? Pretty hard to write a response now... :-(

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Hi ;-)

I know, but I could swear that Brand has send us later info with his location, asking for help? I mean, the forum is kinda lagging so I cannot send you a quote, but I really believe it was like that? And this is what I have been refering to.

Of course, I could have misread something, then of course I am very sorry.

ALSO: the forum is not showing me this "post bar" with URL, quote, spoiler, fonts, colors and other options. Is it meant to be like that? Pretty hard to write a response now... :-(

Brand did text the rest of the team, but not requesting help, just letting them know that if they got into trouble he might not be able to help them (since he would be out of position).

[Justanotherhero]

My epic appearance is positive yes.

By the way are they selling liquor or is it more of a by invitation only event?

I was thinking about bringing some as a ticket.

[Kish]

They don't appear to be charging anyone for liquor, and the party is officially open to every student at the university.

Neither of which necessarily stops Julian from bringing liquor, of course.

[Kaworu]

Brand did text the rest of the team, but not requesting help, just letting them know that if they got into trouble he might not be able to help them (since he would be out of position).

Oh, I am sorry, it seems I did misread that part x_x Shall I edit my post? And into what exactly? I'm kinda lost, to be honest...

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Oh, I am sorry, it seems I did misread that part x_x Shall I edit my post? And into what exactly? I'm kinda lost, to be honest...

That's fine. Here's the timeline: Before the party, Liliana decided to follow a satyr who left their frat-house. She texted Brand, asking for backup in case things went wrong. Brand (who had been spending the afternoons sitting in the campus library, waiting in case anyone needed backup like this) then texted the rest of the group, letting them know what was happening, and that he'd be busy for a bit backing up Liliana. The whole thing was pretty uneventful, though.

If you want an idea for what to change the post to (if you want to change the post), you could always describe what Mateusz and Helena were doing in the three days before the party.

@Kish, I assume I need to roll something to work the crowd like I'm planning. I'm guessing Charisma+Presence, or maybe Manipulation+Presence?

[Kish]

Yes, Brand and Julian both, please roll Charisma+Presence. Everyone there, please roll Perception+Empathy.

Also, when you tell the story, are you aiming to emphasize the dagger, or for it to be one detail among the others?

[roll0]

[Justanotherhero]

Cha (4) + Presence (1) + 1 Stunt? + 1 Auto success Epic Charisma

[roll0]

Per 2 + Empathy 1 + Epic Perception 1 Auto success

[roll1]

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Definitely emphasizing the dagger; it's the central plot point of the (rewritten) story.

Brand spends a Willpower as well.

Charisma+Presence:
[roll0] + 1 Will

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Forgot the Perception+Empathy:
[roll0]

BTW, how are we handling stunts? Do we have to request a stunt, is it honor system, or do you let us know when we've earned one?

[Kish]

I'll say if something you've described qualifies for a stunt...but I am mortal and, thus, more likely to notice it qualifying for one if it's pointed out to me, so feel free to ask too.

Yes, in this case that is worth a 1-die stunt for Julian, and the story itself is worth a 2-die stunt for Brand. (Which you can also regain Willpower or Legend for.)

[Benoojian]

[roll0] Per Empathy

[Benoojian]

That is a botch on my Perception Empathy roll :eek:

[PoeticallyPsyco]

I'll say if something you've described qualifies for a stunt...but I am mortal and, thus, more likely to notice it qualifying for one if it's pointed out to me, so feel free to ask too.

Yes, in this case that is worth a 1-die stunt for Julian, and the story itself is worth a 2-die stunt for Brand. (Which you can also regain Willpower or Legend for.)

Awesome. I... think that 5 successes should be enough, and am going to regain Legend with that stunt.

[Benoojian]

Awesome. I... think that 5 successes should be enough, and am going to regain Legend with that stunt.

You gain bonus dice AND you gain Legend or Willpower, not one or the other.

[DeTess]

[roll0] + 1 auto success from epic perception.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

You gain bonus dice AND you gain Legend or Willpower, not one or the other.

Huh, you're right, I'd misread that section.

The extra two dice:
[roll0]

[Justanotherhero]

One stunt dice.

[roll0]

[Kaworu]

My Empathy + Perception:

[roll0]

ALSO:

1. I believe I should update the CS with additional dot in Athletics and Brawl?

2. I kinda do not know how to edit the post (I believe I should), I will just delete its contents - is everybody fine with it?

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Is this another case where if I have no dots in Awareness I take a 2-die penalty? Because if so, I get no roll at all.

If not:
[roll0]

[Kish]

No, but that's a failure, so whatever you might have noticed you did not.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Hmm, perhaps I should be using Brehon's Eye on this gentleman. Would be very interested to know whether he has Dark Virtues or not.

BTW, should I also be putting my IC posts in spoilers, since I'm literally and figuratively behind closed doors?

[Kish]

Up to you, in both cases. But please roll Perception+Empathy.

Also, everyone who is now in the hallway outside the office, please roll Dexterity+Stealth, with a two-die penalty if you don't have the Stealth skill.

[Kaworu]

My Stealth + Dexterity Roll:

[roll0] (PLUS 1 automatic success from Epic Dexterity)

Also, I updated my character sheet - please, look if you see the new version, okay? ;-)

EDIT: AH, one more thing! I increased both Athletics and Brawl - are there some values I should recalculate?

[DeTess]

[roll0] stealth

[Kish]

Yes, I see the updated sheet with the added levels. Let me see...

Dash should be 11. (Not recalculation, it's just put as equal to Move when it should be [Dexterity + {Epic Dexterity x 2} + 6].)

Dodge DV is now 5. ([Dexterity + Athletics + Legend] / 2 + Epic Dexterity).
Parry DV is now 4. ([Dexterity + Brawl] / 2 + Epic Dexterity).

Jump is 10. ([Strength + Athletics + 1 for Epic Strength 1] x 2) for horizontal jumping.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Perception+Empathy:
[roll0]

[Kish]

[roll0]..........

[Kish]

Brand, please roll Charisma+Presence.

Mateusz, please roll Appearance+Presence.

Liliana, if you come into the office, then please roll...the former if you make a verbal pitch, the latter if you stay silent.

[roll0]

[DeTess]

I don't have presence (might want to change that soonish, seems like an oversight XD) so I'll remain outside to observe.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

I'll spend one Legend to boost this roll.
Charisma Presence
[roll0] + 3 Legend

[Kaworu]

I also don't have a dot in Presence... xD Just one die for me xD

[roll0]

I think I will also spend 1 Legend point, for additional 3 successes? ;-)

[Kish]

Good choice. This would have gone south quite thoroughly if Mateusz had botched that roll.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

I forgot to include a reaction to the door opening and (most of) the rest of the party being on the far side. Gonna edit that into the IC post.

[Kish]

Well somebody do something.

[Benoojian]

Charisma Presence roll?

[Edit] you said do something not do something useful

[Kish]

Yes.

(It might be useful. You never know!)

[Justanotherhero]

[Edit] you said do something not do something useful

I obviously approve that statement.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Anything else we want to do at the party, or should we thank them and leave to regroup?

[Benoojian]

[roll0] Charisma Presence

[Justanotherhero]

Julians Plan is :hang out a bit, meet some people and leave not in the first group but definitely also not in the last group. Afterwards he would try to align the names to the goat men and give a decent sketch of the parts of the building he was in.
Since we might have to walk through that door again.

[DeTess]

Anything else we want to do at the party, or should we thank them and leave to regroup?

I think we're done here? Now just do as justanotherhero suggested and make our exit stealthily and plan for the next bit.

[Justanotherhero]

As an individual Julian would like to:
Increase his Legend Rating from 2 to 3 -16 XP
Increase his Epic Cha from 1 to 2 -4 XP
In the process learn the Knack Charmer by watching a Satyr use it to disarm a drunken misunderstanding.

XP Spent: 20
XP Total: 25

——
As a group I think DeTess is right:
A meeting to discuss and plan is in order.

[Benoojian]

Learning a few things based on what I did

Brand, will you use Teaching Prodigy to teach Max Empathy 2?

Epic Intelligence 2 (Star Pupil) 4XP
Investigation 2 1XP
Science(Computers) 2 1XP
Knack (Teaching Prodigy) 5XP
Epic Perception 1 (Sense Fatebond) 10XP

If Brand will consent to teach Max Empathy 2 1XP (Maybe Intimacy Coordination for stage combat?) otherwise 2XP
Spent 23(or 24) Remaining 2(or 1)

I'll post an updated sheet soon
Max will happily teach any skill you need him to.

[DeTess]

Quick question, I can't find the costs for increasing birthrights. Is that simply not possible?

Edit: and can I say Liliana saw enough from how brand projected his presence to pick up that skill as well?

[Kaworu]

Hm... can someone train me in Presence (1)? :-P

[Benoojian]

Hm... can someone train me in Presence (1)? :-P

I can teach Presence 1 with Teaching Prodigy. How about watching anime fight sequences and taking notes as training?

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Sure, after hearing multiple people express interest in improving their social skills, Brand sets up an impromptu drama class, running the group through... what play would he pick for this... a few scenes from "Twelfth Night". Focus of the lesson is on understanding what your partner is trying to do so you can play off them (Empathy), amplifying your own emotional display for the audience (Presence), and [if someone else wants to learn a different skill that Brand has, let me know and I'll try to come up with a way to work it in].

Brand is going to save his own XP for Legend 4. A lot of things on my wishlist are gated behind that, and it'll also give an immediate benefit to Brawl thanks to my Ability Geas.

[Kish]

Yes, that's all approved.

And indeed, there's no way to increase Birthrights with points. They normally increase over the course of play in various ways: non-supernatural followers accrue as your profile in the World increases, some relics are captured (nearly every titanspawn and titan has a trophy relic of some sort), and gods give you more powerful creatures, guides, followers, and relics as you become more powerful, and thus more useful to them.

For one example of a way to increase Birthrights, Elena indicated she could readily give Mateusz a relic that will let him channel the Star Purview.

[DeTess]

Investigation roll: [roll0]+2 instant successes from epic int

[DeTess]

Okay, so time to spend some experience.

current XP: 25
first dot presence: 3 1 (discount from Brand)
second dot presence: 2 1(discount from Brand)
third dot pressence: 4 2 discount from Brand)
first dot brawl: 3 1 (discount from Brand)
remainder: 20

I'm keeping the rest in the tank for now, probably want to buy a point in legend sooner rather than later



calling: information broker
nature: architect
pantheon: Aesir
God: Eh, you know, It's not really that big of a deal who my father was? Don't worry about it, really. Just trust me, I'm your friend. (It's Loki)

attributes
strength: 2
dexterity: 3
stamina: 2
charisma: 3
manipulation: 5
appearance: 1
perception: 3
intelligence: 5
wits: 3

abilities
academics: 3
athletics: 1
awareness: 3
brawl: 1
command: 3
control: (motorcycle): 1
empathy: 3
fortitude: 1
integrity: 3
investigation: 3
larceny: 2
marksmanship: 2
occult: 3
presence: 3
politics: 3
stealth: 3
survival: 1

legend, boons, knacks and epic attributes
Legend: 3
Fire immunity
magic 2 (ariadne's thread, bona fortuna)
epic perception 1: (perfect pitch)
epic intelligence: 2 (language mastery, multitasking knacks)
epic manipulation: 2 (overt order, instant hypnosis, implant memory)
epic wits: 2 (social chameleon, instant imvestigator)

birthright
relic: 2 (ring, provides fire and magic purviews)
followers: 3 (representing a ring of spies and informants)

virtues
courage: 2
endurance:4
expression: 2
loyalty: 1

[Benoojian]

Okay, so time to spend some experience.

current XP: 25
first dot presence: 3
second dot presence: 2
first dot brawl: 3
remainder: 17


If you join the acting class and Brand's weekly martial arts class, you can reduce all three of those Abilitiy purchases to 1 XP each (half rounded down) taking the discount on brawl also helps Brand with his Geas.

[DeTess]

If you join the acting class and Brand's weekly martial arts class, you can reduce all three of those Abilitiy purchases to 1 XP each (half rounded down) taking the discount on brawl also helps Brand with his Geas.

Right, I already joined the martial arts training and would probably join that as well. Thanks for the reminder on the discount, I'll edit it.

[Kish]

Liliana is pretty sure she has the most recent maps of the tenements of Vine City and knows where Mog is most likely to be.

[Kaworu]

A mechanical question - if Im buying Epic Attributes and I have custom Virtues (compared with default ones for my Pantheon), do I pay +1 EXP? Or only for "superpowers" (Sky, Moon etc.) but not Super Attributes (Appearance etc.)?

EDIT: Okay, I updated my CS. I hope I could use the Training Knack to get Empathy 2 for 2 EXP? (That was kinda my assumption here...)? ;-)

EDIT 2: Hm... Maybe I shall spend 1 EXP for learning basic Medicine...? What do you think?

EDIT 3: A separate list of my Boons and Knacks, cause the space is slowly getting limited... :-P

LINK (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PqqcWpV6t24D8oYS6sPa8dd-lag1OQ6soUP6o44Lb38/edit?usp=sharing)

[Kish]

+1 XP cost is only for Boons, not Epic Attributes or Knacks.

If Brand teaches you Empathy, it would cost 1 point for the first rank (half of 3 round down), then 1 point for the second rank (half of 2, no rounding), and 2 points for the third rank (half of 4, no rounding).

Julian, make an Intelligence+Investigation roll. -2 dice if you don't have the Investigation skill.

[Kaworu]

Hm... something seems to be wrong with my calculations xD

When the EXP cost is written like "rating x2" it means current rating or future rating???

God, I think my calculations are mesed up? :-( I mean, I had before 1 rank in EMpathy and I calculated the cost of 2nd rank as 2 (I think???), including the Teaching Knack?

Eh, I have everything wrong? :-( HAAAAAALP :-(

EDIT: Okay, my solution is this - I am 1 EXP "in the back" because I miscalculated, so I do not change the EXP in my CS, but I put the 1 "lost" EXP in basic Medicine, okay?

[Kish]

When the EXP cost is written like "rating x2" it means current rating or future rating???
It means current rating.

[Benoojian]

If Liliana shares the information about Slam! Max would like to do some magical testing of the drink.

[DeTess]

If Liliana shares the information about Slam! Max would like to do some magical testing of the drink.

Yeah, once it's talking time I'll share everything I know (though not my sources)

[Kish]

Picking up a bottle or can of Slam! at a grocery store or gas station should only take a few minutes, but you'll need to be more detailed about what manner of tests you're performing.

Julian? Intelligence+Investigation?

[Benoojian]

I would like to see if Sense Fatebond activates around a can of Slam!
Then I'd like to make an Intelligence+Occult roll to investigate the mystical properties of the drink
Then see if Sense Fatebond activates upon a hapless volunteer drinking Slam!
Then I would like to activate Unlidded Eye to 'see' any magic on the drink or the person drinking it.

Stopping if any step yields a positive result

[Justanotherhero]

Julian? Intelligence+Investigation?

Intelligence (2) + Investigation (1) + 1 success Epic Intelligence

[roll0]

If I am allowed to add one stunt die:

[roll1]

[Kish]

Julian learns nothing about the satyrs that you hadn't learned previously.

[Benoojian]

Specifically I am suspecting Fornot is a giant or Norse entity and is using giant blood in Slam! to slightly increase mortal’s stamina while creating a magical bond of Loyalty to them.

Will post soon to test hopefully

[Justanotherhero]

Can I roll Int+Occult to know about the effects of Jotunblut?

If yes:

Int (2) + Occult (3) +1 Success Epic Int.

[roll0]

[Kish]

Without a roll, you know that Aesir gods and scions do something that involves feeding their blood to mortals, in the same way you know that Aztec gods and scions derive power from human sacrifice in some way and that Tuatha de Dannan gods and scions are heavily involved with geasa, but that roll won't let you connect it to Gunnar Forsen/Forson. Liliana probably can.

The hotel should be able to get you a can of Slam! easily enough.

Also, not to distract from the ongoing discussion (by all means continue!), but Liliana, Brand, and Mateusz, please roll straight Intelligence.

[DeTess]

[roll0]+ 2 auto succeses

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Int:
[roll0] + 2 Epic Int

[Benoojian]

Intelligenge Occult [roll0] +2 Epic Successes

[Kaworu]

My INT Roll:

[roll0] + 2 Automatic EPIC INTELLIGENCE successes

Sorry, I am kinda late to the party, I forgot to check the forum for a few days... :-P