RubyWF
2024-03-27, 07:40 AM
I'm thinking about playing as a rouge in my next campain, and I like powerful builds (not broken, just powerful), and I need a tamplate to boost dexterity that follows the criteria:
- i'm using the incarnate construct as a way to reduce LA, so the templace must be aplied to a construct
- I would very much prefer templates that doesnt turn the character into an undead
- I already choose dark creature as one of the templates, so Ideal would be LA+1 or at max +2
Edit: thanks for the suggestions and warning about incarnate construct, I really appreciate who indicated which book/ dragon magazine the template is from, spares a lot of searching
pabelfly
2024-03-27, 08:00 AM
Unseelie Fey (Dragon Compendium) is an LA 0 race with a dex bonus, if that interests you.
Some good +2 LA templates:
Insectile (Savage Species) gives +4 DEX and a few other additions.
Obah-Blessed (Dungeon Magazine 136) gives +4 DEX, two extra arms and some other strong additions for 2 LA (there is also a 3 LA version in the same book which is even better).
Rebel7284
2024-03-27, 08:35 AM
A warning about incarnate construct. I have tried using it to reduce LA in the past, but these lines always trip me up:
Special Attacks: The base creature loses all its special
attacks.
Special Qualities: The base creature loses all its special
qualities.
Since most racial abilities fall into one of those (typically special qualities), it becomes very difficult to use Incarnate Construct for anything else than stat increases.
In addition, it's unclear if that ALSO removes special attacks and qualities granted by class levels if you gain the template later.
Anthrowhale
2024-03-27, 09:06 AM
I'm thinking about playing as a rouge in my next campain, and I like powerful builds (not broken, just powerful), and I need a tamplate to boost dexterity that follows the criteria:
- i'm using the incarnate construct as a way to reduce LA, so the templace must be aplied to a construct
- I would very much prefer templates that doesnt turn the character into an undead
- I already choose dark creature as one of the templates, so Ideal would be LA+1 or at max +2
I'm not sure there's a solution because few templates apply to constructs.
Inevitability
2024-03-27, 11:46 AM
Soulfused Construct (Magic of Incarnum) grants +2 dex, +4 cha, for +1 LA. - it also makes Speak Language a class skill for your RHD ranks. However, it can only be applied to constructs that lack an intelligence score.
Bullet06320
2024-03-27, 08:22 PM
Winged Creature template from savage species gives you +4 dex, +2 la
Inevitability
2024-03-28, 04:07 AM
What's your base creature that you'll be applying incarnate construct to, by the way? It probably won't matter but there's a few situations where it might be relevant.
pabelfly
2024-03-28, 07:54 AM
So I've actually been working on a complete list of races and templates in table format. There's a lot to do and I'm not nearly done. The reason I mention this: it doesn't look like there's a +1 LA template that meets your needs. I haven't finished ECL 3 and LA 2, I can't say concretely for that, but here is a really thorough list of LA 1 templates for you to look through, including Dragon, Dungeon and Bestiary of Krynn.
The closest that's available to you is Soulforged Construct, but you're still not elligible, as previously mentioned by Inevitability
Anyway, here's my list. You're welcome to look through it and see if there's anything useful for you.
Template
Template Target
Acquired/
Inherited
STR
DEX
CON
INT
WIS
CHA
Move Speed
Abilities
Assorted notes
Book
Abomination Dragonspawn
Any Dragonspawn
Inherited
+4?
+4?
+4?
+10ft?
Random
Bonuses decided randomly
Bestiary of Krynn, p24
Blooded One
Humanoid
Acquired
+2
+4
-2
Unapproachable East, p60
Chameleon Creature
Corporeal Creature (Not Construct, Undead, or Elemental)
Inherited
Add Climb Speed
Add touch attack 10ft, Low-Light Vision
Type change: Reptilian (if Humanoid)
Underdark, p83
Dark Creature
Any Creature
Inherited
+10ft
Darkvision, Superior Low-Light Vision, Hide in Plain Sight
Type change: Extraplanar subtype (if not on Plane of Shadow)
Tome of Magic, p161
Deep Creature
Any standard PHB race
Inherited
-2
+2
Darkvision
Dragon 306, p62
Draconic Creature
Any corporeal creature (not a dragon)
Inherited
+2
+2
+2
Darkvision, Low-Light Vision
Type change: Magical Beast (if animal)
Draconomicon, p150
Races of the Dragon, p74
Dragonspawn (White)
Any corporeal humanoid or monstrous humanoid, small to large
Inherited
+2
+2
Fly 2x Land Speed
Darkvision, Low-Light Vision
Type change: Monstrous Humanoid
Dragonlance Campaign Setting, p222
Evolved Undead
Any undead with Intelligence score
Inherited
+2?
+2
Fast Healing
Libris Mortis, p99
Faerzress-Infused Creature
Any corporeal creature
Inherited
Detect Faerzress, Infused Power
Underdark, p88
Feral Creature
Any corporeal humanoid or monstrous humanoid
Inherited
+4
-2
+2
-4 (min 2)
+2
Land +10ft
Improved Grab, Pounce (Limited), Rake, Rend, Darkvision, Fast Healing
Savage Species p115
Fleshvigor
Non-skeletal corporeal undead
Acquired
+2
Cannibalistic Healing
Dragon 315, p59
Gurik Cha'ahl
Any creature with Goblinoid subtype
Inherited
+4
+2
-2
Scent
Bestiary of Krynn, p45
Half-Minotaur
Any giant, humanoid or monstrous humanoid, small to huge size
Inherited
+4 (+12)
0 (-2)
+2 (+6)
-2
Land +10ft
Darkvision, Scent
Secondary stat boosts denote size change from template
Dragon 313, p94
Half-Ogre
Any giant, humanoid or monstrous humanoid, small to huge size
Inherited
+12
-2
+4
-2
Land +10ft
Darkvision, Giant Blood
Size change stat boost included. If no size change, LA 0 template.
Dragon 313, p95
Half-Satyr
Any giant, humanoid or monstrous humanoid, small to large size
Inherited
Fey Bloodline, Low-Light Vision
Dragon 313, p94
Half-Undead (Gheden)
Any giant, humanoid or monstrous humanoid
Inherited
+4
-2 (min 1)
-2 (min 1)
-4 (min 1)
Dead Nerves, Detect Mindless Undead
Dragon 313, p66
Gruumsh-Blooded
Any orc
Acquired
Monster Manual V, p65
Imix-Blooded
Any evil creature
Acquired
Monster Manual V, p65
Kord-Blooded
Any nonevil creature, STR 16+
Acquired
Kord's Toughness
Monster Manual V, p66
Magic-Infused
Living Corporeal Creature
Acquired
Aura of Magic, Infused with Magic, Minor Polymorph, Infused Shielding
(Web) (https://web.archive.org/web/20050205050419/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/al/20041222a)
Mineral Warrior
Any Corporeal Creature (not Undead, Construct or Elemental)
Inherited
+2
+4
-2 (min 1)
-2
-2
Darkvision, Damage Reduction
Gains Earth subtype
Underdark p96
(Web) (https://web.archive.org/web/20031205040020/wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20031003e)
Mulhorandi Divine Minion
Any Humanoid, Monstrous Humanoid, or human-shaped Outsider
Acquired
+2
a
+4
-2 (min 1)
-2
-2
Fast Wildshape
Gains Outsider type. Gains alignment subtype. +1 LA for Anhur, Hathor, isis, Nephthys, Sebek, or Thoth.
(Web) (https://web.archive.org/web/20140329041935/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a)
Nagpa
Any Human or Half-Elf Sorcerer of at least 9th level
Acquired
+2
+4
-2 (min 1)
-2
-2
Craft Nagpa Staff, Spell Resistance, Wanderlust
Gains Monstrous Humanoid type.
Dragon 339, p61
Orcus-Blooded
Any evil undead creature
Acquired
Herald of Orcus
Monster Manual V, p66
Orglash
Any elemental with Air subtype
Inherited
+4
10 (min)
Add Fly Speed equal to Land Speed (Poor)
Cold Subtype, Fast Healing, Native Elemental
Monster Manual V, p66
Psionic Tenant
Any Psionic Creature
Acquired
+2
+4
+2
Type Change: Undead
Monster Manual V, p66
Quasilycanthrope
Any Humanoid or Giant
Acquired
Damage Reduction
Gains Shapechanger subtype.
(Web) (https://web.archive.org/web/20130531114642/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20040721a)
Remade
Any Living Corporeal Creature
Acquired
Random or chosen effects
Dragon 352, p46
Scorned Creature
Most Corporeal Creatures
Acquired
+2
-2
+2
-4
-2
-10ft (min 5ft land)
Ageless
Dungeon 136, p64
Shadow-Bound
Any Aberration, Animal, Dragon, Fey, Giant, Humanoid, Magical Beast, Monstrous Humanoid, or Vermin
Acquired
Low-Light Vision, Shadow Blend, Shadow Curse
Animals and Vermin become Magical Beasts with Augmented subtype
(Web) (https://web.archive.org/web/20130531114642/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20040721a)
Shadow Walker
Any Humanoid
Inherited
+2
-2
Darkvision
Underdark, p70
Sign of the Smoking Eye
Any Living Creature with at least one eye
Acquired
Imbued with Evil
Dungeon 107, 68
Soulfused Construct
Constructs without Intelligence score or Living Construct subtype.
Inherited
+2
+4
Essentia Pool, Soulbound Resistance
Gain Living Construct subtype
Magic of Incarnum, p196
Symbiotic
Any two living creatures of animal, humanoid, plant or vermin, one must be two size categories smaller.
Acquired
As host
Detach
Savage Species, p131
Tainted Blood
Any abberation, fey, giant, humanoid or monstrous humanoid
Acquired
+2
+4
As host
Enhanced Vision, Scented, Acid and Poison Immunity
Giants or humanoids become Monstrous Humanoids.
Bestiary of Krynn, p99
Thomil
Any Elemental with Earth subtype
Inherited
+2
-2
Darkvision, Spell Resistance, Cold Resistance
Underdark, p70
Vecna-Blooded
Any evil undead creature
Acquired
Heraldo of Orcus
Monster Manual V, p66
Yeenoghu-Blooded
Any gnoll
Acquired
Gore Stench
Monster Manual V, p66
RubyWF
2024-03-28, 08:00 AM
What's your base creature that you'll be applying incarnate construct to, by the way? It probably won't matter but there's a few situations where it might be relevant.
The base creature will be a warforged, i only know of one other living consctruct playable race, buts its so weird i dont even remember the name
Inevitability
2024-03-28, 08:30 AM
Hm, you could ask your DM about the Quorcraft warforged template in Secrets of Xen'Drik. It takes a warforged and increases slam damage and composite plating AC bonus, in addition to granting the ability to slam twice with one full-round action. No dexterity boost, but still pretty solid.
It's normally LA: - because it removes the base creature's intelligence score, but if you're going to get that back via Incarnate Construct anyway, I think +1 would be perfectly fine.
ShurikVch
2024-03-28, 01:05 PM
Greater Humanoid Essence + Ritual of Shadow Walking (Unapproachable East)?
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