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meet shield
2007-12-19, 12:58 PM
Hi to everybody.
I need some help for my favorite character, Shevrar.

Shevrar is an half red dragon human (Cn) with a very unfortunatly life (cause the racialism exist) and one mission: find kaira, his woman, the only person of don't see in him a beast, who disapear.
Now, I play him:

Barbarian, UA variant, of 1st level
Psichic warrior of 2nd
Fighter of 1st level
War Mind of 8th level
Rage Mage of 1st level

Incentrate on deep impact with hustle (psionic power of give you an extra movement action) and monkey grasp-proficiency gold weapon.

But I personaly think the 9th level of the prestige clase are useless, and the 10th too.
So, I need of one prestige class, something incentrate on the great sword, for example, or on another weapon (my DM tell me of can adapt the class if I don't find nothing).

So, plese, help the little dragon!:smallredface:

leperkhaun
2007-12-19, 01:10 PM
power attack, leap attack, shock trooper, karmaic strike.....standard charging build.

Chronicled
2007-12-19, 04:03 PM
A level of psychic warrior and a level of fighter is much worse than 2 levels of psychic warrior.

Also, monkey grip is one of the worst feats ever written. Why do people keep taking it??

Wordmiser
2007-12-19, 04:16 PM
We'll need to know what feats you have if you want any intelligent recommendations.

And your build doesn't look legal. It sounds like you've been playing with it, though, so I'll assume it's all been OK-ed.

If you have the Tome of Battle, you'll probably want to look at those classes. All of them would probably help your character.


And which UA variant are you using with your Barbarian level? There are nine that might be applicable. Knowing which would help greatly.

meet shield
2007-12-20, 10:50 AM
Yes, you're right, I'm sorry.
I'm use the variant of give me +4str +2ca and an extra attack with a -2 penality on all the attack. Do you think there is a better variant? I really think it is the only one.

Then, I can't charge, cause I prefer buff me up with my psionic power, and, also, I prefer he use his action for charge me and then kill him with my complete attack.

Personally I hate the Tob, cause, well, it's too much. It's like play a wizard.

I'm thinking at some metabreaf feats.
But, well, the point is: it's scenografic but useless: I can spend two feats of I have no occuped for take a breaf every 1d4 round and the breaf of increase the reload time but give me the opportunity of do a breaf with a swift action, but I have one and only one swift action for the round, and personally use it for cast hustle, take my psionic focus and use deep impact is quite better, don't you think? Maibe there is a solution for this? Cause use a breaf as standard action it's not really usefull.

Worira
2007-12-20, 11:06 AM
Gah, my eyes. It's like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, only with the english language.

Tyger
2007-12-20, 11:11 AM
Gah, my eyes. It's like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, only with the english language.

Really? How's your Italian? Just because someone's first language isn't English is no reason to cut into them. Jeez. :smallamused:

Fuzzy_Juan
2007-12-20, 11:13 AM
A level of psychic warrior and a level of fighter is much worse than 2 levels of psychic warrior.

Also, monkey grip is one of the worst feats ever written. Why do people keep taking it??

people don't use monkey grip to wield a 2-hander one handed...they use it to wield an oversized 2-hander...then enlarge themselves and squish things in bad bad ways. Sure it gives you some negatives...but you get a pretty good boost to damage and while it might blow mechanically for 'to hit' it is very cool to be swinging around an oger's greatsword. Blame anime...

I know I had a fighter that swore off magic that used it to great effect...monkey grip, (custom feat: oversized weapon fighting, combined with monkey grip to wield gargantuan weapons :smallbiggrin: ) power attack w/ improved trip and 'knockdown'...character was a half dragon (custom half-'fang dragon', (either DR or immune to ability drain)/stronger claw/bite, no breath weapon)...when you are swinging around a gargantuan weapon and taking people off their feet left right and center...it is a beautiful thing. Sure I could have doen it with a 'normal human' or without the oversized weapon or monkey grip...but then it just wouldn't be near as cool...just more mechanically sound...and what fun is that?

Chronicled
2007-12-20, 11:19 AM
it is very cool to be swinging around an oger's greatsword. Blame anime...

See, that's where I'm gonna disagree with you. It's more clichéd and improbable than anything else.

Fuzzy_Juan
2007-12-20, 11:24 AM
See, that's where I'm gonna disagree with you. It's more clichéd and improbable than anything else.

True enough...though that is why when I did it I asked the DM if I could make a half dragon...a character as strong as an ogre and with maxed out strength to begin with might realistically be able to pull it off if they had trained at it non stop (got feats).

Sure it is kinda improbable and hokey in real life...but in high fantasy...not so much.

Mephibosheth
2007-12-20, 01:25 PM
Hi to everybody.
I need some help for my favorite character, Shevrar.

Shevrar is an half red dragon human (Cn) with a very unfortunatly life (cause the racialism exist) and one mission: find kaira, his woman, the only person of don't see in him a beast, who disapear.
Now, I play him:

Barbarian, UA variant, of 1st level
Psichic warrior of 2nd
Fighter of 1st level
War Mind of 8th level
Rage Mage of 1st level

Incentrate on deep impact with hustle (psionic power of give you an extra movement action) and monkey grasp-proficiency gold weapon.

But I personaly think the 9th level of the prestige clase are useless, and the 10th too.
So, I need of one prestige class, something incentrate on the great sword, for example, or on another weapon (my DM tell me of can adapt the class if I don't find nothing).

So, plese, help the little dragon!:smallredface:

IMHO, you're making a mistake in opting out of the final two levels of War Mind. If you take War Mind all the way, you gain +2 BAB, +1 to all your saves, 23 more power points (plus bonus power points for your Wisdom modifier), a 5th level power, an additional point of Damage Reduction (always good, especially since its DR 3/-), and Chain of Overwhelming Force (never a bad thing). You have more War Mind levels than any other class, meaning that this class gives you your most powerful manifesting abilities and your only high level powers. I think your build would be well-served by taking the last two levels. Take Oak Body and substantially increase your durability. Take Psychofeedback and pump your Strength score for a better attack bonus and more damage.

Just my 2 cp

Mephibosheth

Wordmiser
2007-12-20, 02:17 PM
I second Mephibosheth's recommendation. Manifester Level, Power Points and Higher-level powers are probably the most valuable resources available for your character. The Base Attack/Hit Points don't hurt either.

meet shield
2007-12-21, 12:26 PM
Ya, you probably are right, but, well, it'n not a question of optimization, but a question of funny! dr... good, of course... scenografic? well, yes, not really different from dr 2/-...
The last chain... well, i think I can find better in may way: this pg can make 408,5 damage at round at media and whitout critical...so.. nice 10d6, but...
power points and higher level powers... not bad, not bad... but I'm the powered damage dealer of the group, and we have cleric optimazed, some kind of rouge and a duskblade... If I start to be a nice caster... well... how for the hell can they have fun? I really don't know...ok, is a psichic warrior caster, yes, but...
so, I prefer take, for example, one level from fgt and one from rouge (variant of give you extra feats) for take at 14th level knock down and at the 15th 2 feats of meta breaf ( swift and one breaf for every 1d4 round, for example)
cause it's more fun.

What is oversized fighting weapon? It's the epic feat of I'm thinking?

meet shield
2007-12-21, 12:30 PM
Thanks Tyger, but I think He(or she)'s quite right... I hate my english and the english hate me... But we have to stay togheter...:smallwink:

meet shield
2007-12-22, 11:18 AM
I speack with my DM: I have one problem (yes, another).

Well, the situation is: when we start the adventure, we aren't very good at play, so our pg aren't really good: but in this situation, my character, barbarian standard 1st and fighter 8, was too much optimizated.
Well, I only have my str but was sufficently.
So at the end of the Dungeon the DM saied: hey, guys, change your levels and feats, if you want, but balance you.
So I change my player in this mode: if I want, I certanly can optimazed more then this, but i don't want. I want only have fun. And i really like the monkey grasp kind of feats. And cause I start with no budget (Shevrar is really poor) the DM give my a magic sword of became larger when I am in rage and inflicts 2d10 base damage.
And I am thinking to spend all my money in gold and in a "polimorf any obgect", for arrive at 6d8 base damage (large size sword, damage like enormous ( gold).


But my DM tell me: If you have a sword size large plus the magic of the sword, you have a 40 feets greatsword: don't have importance if you can use it, I'll don't leave you attack whit it in a close room or similar.

If you are my DM, did you say the same thing?

KillianHawkeye
2007-12-22, 11:46 AM
Well, since a Medium greatsword is about 6 feet long, let's do the math.

A Large greatsword (+1 size category) would be about 12 feet long. A Huge greatsword (+2 size categories) would be about 24 feet long. A Gargantuan greatsword (+3 size categories) would be about 48 feet long. And in case you were wondering, that would make a Colossal greatsword (+4 size categories) a whopping 96 feet long!!!

And yes, if your sword is larger than the room you are in I would definitely NOT allow you to attack with it. I'd maybe make you find a 40 ft hallway to leave it in or something.

meet shield
2007-12-23, 03:22 PM
extupid feet! why for the hell we use a different sistem of misuration?! Damn it.

Weel, my point is: whit a +6 greatsword, with a media of 62 damage for attck without critical or power attack, really I can't destroy all the wall? Really are so resistent? I don't think so. I also have downdescendent blow, so... well, a wall? And you call it resistent? Please! I can broke it whit my head! (in effect, I am a psichic warrior, so tecnically I can destroy a lot of things only whit my head... and my mind).

Seffbasilisk
2007-12-23, 03:28 PM
One thing you might want to look into is that while you're using the Whirling Frenzy Rage varient, there's another varient you can take ADDITIONALLY from Complete Champion. Lion-Totem barbarian.

You lose your fast movement (+10ft to base speed) and gain instead Pounce. So when you charge, you CAN make a full attack. This way you can charge, pounce, and do your full attack and the -2 from Whirling Frenzy is offset by the +2 from charging.

As for the psionics, alas, that's a subject I've yet to broach.

meet shield
2007-12-23, 04:06 PM
I like your avatar. really beautiful.

I know the Lion totem barbarian, but one of our rules is: a pc mustn't can kill another pc with a standard action (excluse save or die).
Cause for some motive I'll decide to kill a member of the party, well, I mustn't can kill him in the surprise round. And if I have the greatsword in my hand, I can kill two of the other pcs (downdescendent blow, charge at 18m like standard action, full attack, 408 damage media without rage, buffer and chains).

But if I have to charge and do ONE attack, I'll probably don't kill the pcs, and they can win as I can win. And we have to roll the initiative. It's better.
in effect, If at the first session i had pounce, probably I killed a pc: our rapport was...not really good.