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UserClone
2007-12-21, 05:47 PM
:smallconfused: Forgive my ignorance, but how is this class brokenly good?

Mr.Bookworm
2007-12-21, 05:59 PM
Metamagic in itself is really good.

When you devote an entire class to pimping out metamagic, guess what?

You get cheese with a side order of spellcasting.

EDIT: Plus, if I remember right, they get full spellcasting progression, or close to it.

Which in itself is broken.

Emperor Tippy
2007-12-21, 06:04 PM
2 Words: Persistent Shapechange

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A person with 30 Int gets ~13 free metamagics per day if he can make the spell craft check.

Reinboom
2007-12-21, 06:05 PM
@^ and that. *shudders*

You simply get more than the standard wizard. Which is already "cheese".
Also, you eventually gain the ability to use metamagic cheaper.

GryffonDurime
2007-12-21, 06:13 PM
Make sure you're looking at the 3.5 Incantatrix, not it's 3.0 cousin.

The 3.5 Incantatrix of the Player's Guide to Faerun is...as I can attest from a current campaign I'm in...absolutely amazing. I am the reason that we can keep spells Chained and Persisted. Any spell we cast gets immeditaley Twinned...these are not the abilities of a balanced class.

Douglas
2007-12-21, 06:23 PM
The 3.5 Incantatrix of the Player's Guide to Faerun is...as I can attest from a current campaign I'm in...absolutely amazing. I am the reason that we can keep spells Chained and Persisted. Any spell we cast gets immeditaley Twinned...these are not the abilities of a balanced class.
Well, combining it with a Wu Jen spell from Complete Arcane (Body Outside Body) is not exactly something I think the designers expected. Still, even without the 80 uses per day of each of Cooperative Metamagic and Metamagic Effect that gives you it's still pretty powerful. Oh, and the cost? No more than just half of what a specialist wizard gives up.

UserClone
2007-12-21, 06:30 PM
But doesn't Persist have a really high spell level cost?

Douglas
2007-12-21, 06:34 PM
Yes. Get your spellcraft bonus high enough (GryffonDurime's is +48 unbuffed at level 18) and you can get it free on high level spells anyway.

Vizzerdrix
2009-10-04, 11:10 AM
Firstly, Sorry to Necro post, but I prefer to use existing topics that make new ones about the same thing.

Now for my question. How does the incantatrix's Focused Study interact with a Sorcerer? Am I treated as a Focused Caster for other PrCs? Do I gain all the benefits a wizard would gain from being a focused Wizard?

Again, Sorry for the necro posting and thanks in advanced.

Melamoto
2009-10-04, 11:12 AM
Dude, that's a 2 year Necro. Of course you can just start a new topic if the other is older than you.

And that's not even that related.

Vizzerdrix
2009-10-04, 11:25 AM
The question is Incantatrix related.

Ant the thread isn't old, it's "antique" :smallsmile:

Deth Muncher
2009-10-04, 11:29 AM
The question is Incantatrix related.

Ant the thread isn't old, it's "antique" :smallsmile:

Uuuuuh...well, see, while that makes sense and all, the Mods are going to come down on you about it anyway. Now, what you CAN do (and which most people generally do in this situation) is to post a new thread, and link the old.

Roland St. Jude
2009-10-04, 11:34 AM
Firstly, Sorry to Necro post, but I prefer to use existing topics that make new ones about the same thing.
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