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bugsysservant
2007-12-29, 05:20 PM
Outside of Master specialist, is there any PrC which grants a level of arcane spellcasting at first level and can be taken at fourth level?

Kurald Galain
2007-12-29, 05:58 PM
Outside of Master specialist, is there any PrC which grants a level of arcane spellcasting at first level and can be taken at fourth level?

No.

In general you aren't supposed to be able to take a prestige class until level six or higher; the master specialist is a rare exception.

Wordmiser
2007-12-29, 06:02 PM
Outside of Master specialist, is there any PrC which grants a level of arcane spellcasting at first level and can be taken at fourth level?

Church Inquisitor (Complete Divine) does it. But beside that, not that I know of.

Scratch that. It's not Arcane.

Kaelik
2007-12-29, 06:21 PM
Actually, if you can break WBL rules for a few levels. You can take Mindbender at fourth if you have an Orange Ioun Stone and a Ring of Arcane Might. Also, can be taken at 5 with just one. Course you need to have all the skills as class skills to hit that soon.

marjan
2007-12-29, 06:23 PM
Paragnostic Apostle from CC. Asimar has 3rd lvl spell-like ability so he can qualify for it at ECL3 as wizard or anything that has at least two knowledge skills as class skills.

Kurald Galain
2007-12-29, 06:37 PM
Actually, if you can break WBL rules for a few levels. You can take Mindbender at fourth
Precisely my point. In general you aren't supposed to be able to break WBL rules for a few levels, either.


Paragnostic Apostle from CC. Asimar has 3rd lvl spell-like ability so he can qualify for it at ECL3 as wizard or anything that has at least two knowledge skills as class skills.
Interesting. Although one might claim that the PA prestige class requires 3rd-level spell like abilities, as in plural, and the Aasimar only has one.

bugsysservant
2007-12-29, 07:16 PM
Hmm, I don't suppose you could qualify for Blood Magus (which is a bit easier skill-wise than mind bender) by taking Arcane thesis. Technically, you would have an arcane caster level of 5, but only for one spell.

Everyman
2007-12-29, 08:11 PM
As stated, one generally can not enter a PrC until fifth level. To the best of my knowledge, Wizards set it up this way so that a character has time to develop itself. In this sense, a player has time to get used to a paticular style of playing before specializing itself into a paticular niche.

marjan
2007-12-29, 08:47 PM
Interesting. Although one might claim that the PA prestige class requires 3rd-level spell like abilities, as in plural, and the Aasimar only has one.

Also 6th lvl sorceror cannot cast third level spells (without Heighten Spell) but he can qualify.

FlyMolo
2007-12-29, 08:49 PM
Mystic theurge? worth throwing out there.