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Prophaniti
2008-01-08, 08:24 PM
Dark Heresy (http://www.blackindustries.com/?template=40K&content=40K-dh-rulebook)
New Roleplaying franchise based on WH40k. Anyone know anything else about it? Like what system it uses and so forth? Anyone lucky enough to get one of the 200 Collector's Edition that sold out in 6 minutes (http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=24574)? Anyone as excited as I am?

Ghal Marak
2008-01-08, 08:43 PM
Dark Heresy (http://www.blackindustries.com/?template=40K&content=40K-dh-rulebook)
New Roleplaying franchise based on WH40k. Anyone know anything else about it? Like what system it uses and so forth? Anyone lucky enough to get one of the 200 Collector's Edition that sold out in 6 minutes (http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=24574)? Anyone as excited as I am?

I am! I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a copy of my own. :smallbiggrin:

an kobold
2008-01-08, 10:26 PM
I would have loved to get my hands on one of the limited editions. It would be such a wonderful coffee table book.

Archangel Yuki
2008-01-08, 11:04 PM
Oh. My. God.

Has anyone played Inquistion, the old WH40K RPG?

It used a d100 system was just plain out terrible. Not the kind of terrible where your first responce is a "Oh my god, this system so totally sucks."

More of a "Oh my dear lord reading this system has caused warp sharks to encircle my mind. A hoarde of Daemons are currently using my mind as a portal to the real realm. A 30ft tall demon just exited from my head, born from the purn undiluted evil that is this gaming system."

So I am having my friend read the book first, and if his head does not explode, I might try it. Maybe.

Tengu
2008-01-08, 11:13 PM
More of a "Oh my dear lord reading this system has caused warp sharks to encircle my mind. A hoarde of Daemons are currently using my mind as a portal to the real realm. A 30ft tall demon just exited from my head, born from the purn undiluted evil that is this gaming system."


That's like FLCL, only with daemons instead of robots. Any ideas where one can find a copy of Inquisition?

As for Dark Heresy... looks promising. I was looking forward to a decent WH40K RPG system, even if it's a world I prefer to laugh at.

Prophaniti
2008-01-08, 11:36 PM
Actually, you can download the pdf of Inquisitor for free from their website, I'll add the link later. Apparently it didn't sell very well, nor did the models, so GW has given up on it. Which is probably why they're trying the new one.

I'm excited. We played a few WH40k campaigns using adapted d20 Modern rules, so having some official core (if it doesn't suck, fingers crossed) will be awesome.

Archangel Yuki
2008-01-09, 12:25 AM
I might be able to scrounge up my old copy. The only really good thing about the book was the fluff. Oh my god the fluff was amazing....I loved some of the stories so much. But really, don't bother. Few people liked the old system, and it would just cause headaches.
Really, I hope they did something about the d100 system though.

Ghal Marak
2008-01-09, 12:30 AM
I might be able to scrounge up my old copy. The only really good thing about the book was the fluff. Oh my god the fluff was amazing....I loved some of the stories so much. But really, don't bother. Few people liked the old system, and it would just cause headaches.
Really, I hope they did something about the d100 system though.

I've got a copy of the book too. It didn't look too bad to me, but then again I never actualy played. I haven't even cracked open the book in a year, so what do I know? :smallsmile:

Kyeudo
2008-01-09, 12:49 AM
There is a free demo of the system out there somewhere. I have a copy, but I can't remember where I got it.

Prophaniti
2008-01-09, 10:43 AM
So is that the system they're using for Dark Heresy, then? d100? how's that work, like the tabletop game again?

wormwood
2008-01-09, 11:15 AM
From what I've heard (haven't personally looked at it) it's very similar to the 2nd edition WFRP system. That kinda makes sense. So, yeah, it's mostly % based. I'll probably take a look at it eventually, since I love some WFRP, but I don't have anyone to play it with so I'm not in a hurry.

hamlet
2008-01-09, 12:45 PM
The game uses the same system as the 2nd edition WHFRPG as far as can go with the difference in tech levels.

From what can be seen in the free preview, it's really quite good and definately worth a look.

Ominous
2008-01-10, 01:57 AM
So is that the system they're using for Dark Heresy, then? d100? how's that work, like the tabletop game again?

If it works like 2nd WFRP as wormwood and hamlet claim, it's a percentile dice system where you succeed if you roll under your score.

Talic
2008-01-10, 02:00 AM
If it works like 2nd WFRP as wormwood and hamlet claim, it's a percentile dice system where you succeed if you roll under your score.

It does use that mechanic, yes.

Attilargh
2008-01-10, 10:52 AM
Oh for crying out loud, why can't anyone give the man his link? You can download the Inquisitor rulebook from this page (http://specialist-games.com/inquisitor/rulebook.asp). The book is divided into two (http://specialist-games.com/inquisitor/assets/lrb/InqLRBpart1.pdf) parts (http://specialist-games.com/inquisitor/assets/lrb/InqLRBpart2.pdf), the first of which contains the core rules and the second the rules for characters.

A demo adventure for Dark Heresy (one must wonder if there are other kinds of heresies) can be downloaded from here (http://www.blackindustries.com/?template=40K&content=40K-sh-booklet). Art's recycled and the adventure is not particularly creative, but hey, it's free.

Yes, it is very similar to the second edition WFRP rules, which I consider one of the neatest role-playing systems I have ever seen. Which, admittedly, does not say much, considering my relative inexperience. Still, as I think the rules are solid and the setting is pretty cool, I might just buy this. Also, ye gods that book is big!

hamlet
2008-01-10, 12:02 PM
But it's more fun to string him along with false promises and tidbits of interesting things!

Seriously though, the game looks to be an interesting new far future type RPG (even if you separate it out from the setting material some) that would be a great step up from many of the modern options left to us after the demise of Alternity.

That, and I just love the setting stuff too. It's like this weird mash of Dune and Aliens and a few other fun things that just has the perfect kind of flavor. Can't wait to try running an inquisitor myself. "There is no "innocent" in my court . . ."

Acco Spoot
2008-01-11, 01:26 PM
ohmygodI'msoexcitedIthinkImightdie!!!!

Squeeeel!!! I so want to get this when it comes out, the GW guys told me that it's not gonna be released in store though, which is a pity cos none of the other places in my crappy town are likely to get a copy until about three months after the game is released, but I am so desperate to get it I may have to try the Internet shops for the first time.... ever.... though really I need a job, which won't be easy, the game looks amazing though and really dark and gory to boot, one of the flavours I felt was lacking in all the D&D games I played before, plus it's new, so I won't have to spend a fortune trying to keep up :D

proud_walker
2008-01-13, 03:41 PM
i really like the wfrp and when i heard the news about this succes i got even more excited! I hope that they will make more copies soon though...

an kobold
2008-01-13, 04:12 PM
That, and I just love the setting stuff too. It's like this weird mash of Dune and Aliens and a few other fun things that just has the perfect kind of flavor. Can't wait to try running an inquisitor myself. "There is no "innocent" in my court . . ."

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only grim and dark. And also war, and occasionally the Greater Good. But mostly just grim and dark.

Ghal Marak
2008-01-13, 04:38 PM
It will probably take a couple of months for them to produce enough copys, as well as for demand to slacken a bit. So I'm in no rush to get one.

Attilargh
2008-01-14, 11:09 AM
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only grim and dark. And also war, and occasionally the Greater Good. But mostly just grim and dark.
You forgot gothic. Oh, and Chaos too. And gothic.

But no ratmen. In the grim darkness of the far future, there are no ratmen.

hamlet
2008-01-14, 11:11 AM
You forgot gothic. Oh, and Chaos too. And gothic.

But no ratmen. In the grim darkness of the far future, there are no ratmen.

Cause they all got beaten to a fine paste by years and years of adventurers.

wormwood
2008-01-14, 01:31 PM
Cause they all got beaten to a fine paste by years and years of adventurers.

It's certainly about time. I know I've taken down more Skaven than should be allowed to exist. They must breed like... well... rats!

hamlet
2008-01-14, 01:32 PM
It's certainly about time. I know I've taken down more Skaven than should be allowed to exist. They must breed like... well... rats!

While it's true that ratmen themselves do not exist, having been finally pulvarized, I'm am saddened to report that their evolutionary progeny live on.

Lawyers.

Crazy_Uncle_Doug
2008-01-14, 01:59 PM
I'm hoping to get a copy when it gets out! As a fan of WFRP, this looks promising. I've played WFRP 1st Ed, and I'm currently running a 2nd Ed game. Knowing that Dark Heresy is using a similar system gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Since I have no fur, that must mean it could be a good system and not that I'm mutating. Yet.

The only concern the players in my group have is how the game will play. They are more interested in playing a party of adventurers going on independant missions, rather than playing troops or commanders of troops and the like. Most likely this is a concern that it's based on 40k, not on any knowledge of the RPG to come. Still, I understand the concern. One of the reasons some of them disliked another RPG (Ars Magica) was that instead of playing one character, one was managing a small army of characters.

Matthew
2008-01-14, 02:05 PM
As I understand it, the basic premise for the sample adventure is that the characters are part of an Inquisitor's retinue. I think that is not an isolated instance, but that it is also the premise behind the game. However, I wouldn't be surprised to discover there were alternate semi autonomous groups, such as Rogue Traders, Space Pirates, Traders, Mercenaries or what have you.

Malachite
2008-01-14, 05:43 PM
Has anyone played Inquistion, the old WH40K RPG?
It used a d100 system was just plain out terrible. Not the kind of terrible where your first responce is a "Oh my god, this system so totally sucks."...

Hey, I resent that comment! I still like Inquisitor very much, and it's probably the wargame I play most at present. Besides, it's not an RPG it's a narrative skirmish-level wargame. :smalltongue:

You wouldn't say it was terrible if your Kroot (the models really show their size - Kroot hips come up to a normal guy's shoulder!) vaults up some stairs onto a roof, one-twos the nearest person with the blades attached to his rifle, then runs across the roof, double-kicks his main target in the face and smacks him off a four story building with a blow to the chest from the butt of his rifle.
Likewise, it's also a cool moment when he leaps over a fallen enemy to engage the second, spits acid into the other guy's chest and bites his face off.
I could go on but it would get boring for you all.
You just don't get that kind of flexibility in any other wargame I know of, and even most RPGs find it hard to match. The whole system is based around creating cinematic action scenes where it doesn't matter who wins so long as it's a cool story and both players have fun.

I'm looking forward to Dark Heresy, which from what I've seen is similar to Inquisitor but with a d20 style skill system added in. The only worry I have about it compared to Inquisitor is that it may lose the personal touch you get from having models on the table.