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Sleet
2008-01-24, 09:51 AM
I'm really digging The Pogues and Flogging Molly these days. I want more in that vein. Any suggestions? (I have some Dropkick Murphys, but they're a bit too bare-bones punk for my taste.)

And what the hell is the name of that genre of music, anyway?

Edit: Forgot: There's Ashley MacIsaac, who is more Scottish influenced that Irish, but that works too. The dude's a bit eccentric, but he can play the heck out of a fiddle. :smallsmile:

WalkingTarget
2008-01-24, 09:59 AM
The Tossers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tossers)?

I usually call it Irish Punk or Celtic Punk. I don't know if that's really the "right" term for it though.

Rare Pink Leech
2008-01-24, 10:03 AM
Probably not what you're looking for, since he's a folk singer, but Damien Rice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_rice) is Irish, and from what I've heard of him, he's good. Thought I'd toss in his name, just in case.

Sleet
2008-01-24, 10:15 AM
I love Irish/Scottish folk music, so I'm glad to have the name - thanks! But yeah, I'm particularly looking for the head-banging foot-stomping electric guitar variety of Irish/Scottish influenced music in this thread. :smallsmile:

Jack Squat
2008-01-24, 10:20 AM
how about NeedFire (http://youtube.com/watch?v=A83Cq_FY4pI)?

there's also Seven Nations, but I can't find a clip for them

tetsubo
2008-01-24, 11:46 AM
I like Flogging Molly better but Dropkick Murphys (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropkick_Murphys) is pretty good too.

Talya
2008-01-24, 12:07 PM
There's Ashley MacIsaac, who is more Scottish influenced that Irish, but that works too. The dude's a bit eccentric, but he can play the heck out of a fiddle. :smallsmile:

The guy's actually Canadian. Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia is all irish/scottish in culture. The University of Cape Breton Island is actually considered the world's "authority" on Gaelic languages...despite the majority of people still speaking Irish Gaelic in Ireland.

While it's not rock, if you like MacIsaac's style of folk music, you should probably pick up a bit of Loreena McKennitt. It's far less rock than even MacIsaac's music, but atmosphericly it's great. (I use it as bard music in a PbP campaign that I'm playing a bard in.)

Sleet
2008-01-24, 12:26 PM
The guy's actually Canadian.

Yup, I'm quite familiar with him, seen him live a few times. Great fiddler. :smallsmile:


While it's not rock, if you like MacIsaac's style of folk music, you should probably pick up a bit of Loreena McKennitt.

I have everything she's ever recorded, and she does a great live performance, if you ever get a chance to see her; the musicians she works with are every bit as good as she is. Her roots are in Celtic music but her influences come from far and wide. I keep hoping she'll collaborate with Peter Gabriel on something someday.



Thanks for the tips on the Tossers and NeedFire - I'll check them out!

Closet_Skeleton
2008-01-24, 12:46 PM
Thin Lizzy wouldn't really count would it?

Gorbash
2008-01-24, 12:51 PM
Well, Dubliners are always good, but I always kinda disliked Pogues... They do have some good songs, but Shane has became such a bum, there are no ways to describe it. Literally, he's falling apart. I can't respect that kind of man, and his voice isn't *that* good to overcome the rest...

Dropkick Murphys have good songs too, but all their songs are aggresive, I don't like that too much.

Flogging Molly are best there is, IMHO. Wonderful songs (I cannot help but laugh every time I hear Salty Dog), great vocal... Everything. I just wish they played more traditional songs (Star of the County Down, Foggy Dew, etc)

The Real McKenzies are, I think, Scottish influenced, punk/rock group. They played here once, didn't feel like going, since I know only one scottish song (Loch Lomond), but they are similar to DPM.

Also, I'd recommend Orthodox Celts (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MDTlQ9xgtGk), they are from my home town, I really enjoy listening to them since they play a lot of traditional songs (unforunatelly, their own songs aren't that good), and they do that pretty good, too!

Jimp
2008-01-24, 12:53 PM
Some Irish rock bands:
U2
An Emotional Fish (AKA Jerry Fish and The Mudbug Club)
Delorentos
Director
The Frames
The Revs
A House
Snow Patrol
The Boomtown Rats
Bell x1
Horselips
Paddy Casey
Mic Christopher
Thin Lizzy
Ash
The Frank and Walters
Divine Comedy
The 4 of Us
Hal
Damien Rice
Damien Dempsey
The Jimmy Cake
The Sawdoctors

That's all I can recall for now. I'll post more if I can think of them :P
WalkingTarget is right about the genre distinction though. Stuff like Flogging Molly is more Celtic Punk. The bands I've listed are mostly rock bands and alternative bands. The closest to Celtic Punk on that list would be Horselips and The Sawdoctors.

Archpaladin Zousha
2008-01-24, 12:53 PM
How come no one's mentioned The Chieftans yet?

Jimp
2008-01-24, 12:58 PM
How come no one's mentioned The Chieftans yet?

Probably because of the distinction of Rock in the thread title. Cheiftans are more regular folk/trad.

valadil
2008-01-24, 02:07 PM
Try The Pogues, Enter the Haggis, The Waterboys, and Runrig. For something a little more folksy I highly recommend Great Big Sea.

Gaelbert
2008-01-24, 03:45 PM
I like Flogging Molly better but Dropkick Murphys (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropkick_Murphys) is pretty good too.

I second this. And its called Irish Punk and Celtic Rock.

Here's (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47522) a second thread on this topic. It's not too long, but there are some good recommendations.

Closet_Skeleton
2008-01-24, 04:06 PM
Try The Pogues, Enter the Haggis, The Waterboys, and Runrig. For something a little more folksy I highly recommend Great Big Sea.

The Pogues were mentioned in the OP and Runrig are, though I like them, Scottish.

Sereno
2008-01-24, 04:13 PM
Try Black 47 (http://www.google.com/musica?aid=wVkUfjXD8dJ&sa=X&oi=music&ct=result) ... they do a pretty nice job of mixing the trad. with the rock.

There's also a band named Cruiskeen (http://www.mp3.com/artist/cruiskeen/summary/). They stick closer to the trad., but throw in electric guitar and a drum kit.

And, my favorite, Glengarry Bhoys (http://www.glengarrybhoys.com/)

Felizginato12
2008-01-24, 04:15 PM
Irish rock?

You mean U2?

Sorry. I really don't know any irish rock besides the one you stated in your first post. Just think it's funny that U2 is probably the only big irish rock band.

Or at least the only one I can think of as of now.

Gorbash
2008-01-24, 04:42 PM
Irish rock?

You mean U2?

Sorry. I really don't know any irish rock besides the one you stated in your first post. Just think it's funny that U2 is probably the only big irish rock band.

Or at least the only one I can think of as of now.

If you don't know anything about Irish rock, why enter conversation then? o.O

There are also the Cranberries, not to mention freakin Dubliners who have been around since Beatles... Van Morrison, Sinnead O'Connor, there are bunch of famous Irish musicians. But this isn't topic about musicians from Ireland, it's about a direction in music called "Irish Rock", which is centered on certain style of music, usually involing violins, and an overall irish sound.

Icewalker
2008-01-24, 06:06 PM
When I saw the thread title I was hoping it was about Flogging Molly. Awesome band.

I can't really give you any suggestions. I tried to find similar stuff using Pandora, and had weak results.

Sleet
2008-01-24, 07:19 PM
But this isn't topic about musicians from Ireland, ...

Exactly right. U2, Cranberries, etc.: Great bands, I love 'em, but not what I'm looking for here. :smallsmile:


... Runrig are, though I like them, Scottish.

No, that's OK. The idea is to list good bands that mix rock (preferably hard or punk rock) with Irish/Scottish/Other Celtic trad styles, instruments, and songs. They need not be from Ireland; Flogging Molly is from Los Angeles, for cryin' out loud.

Sleet
2008-01-24, 07:24 PM
There's also a band named Cruiskeen (http://www.mp3.com/artist/cruiskeen/summary/). They stick closer to the trad., but throw in electric guitar and a drum kit.

Reminds me of Scythian (http://www.scythianmusic.com/). These guys kick backside - catch 'em live if you can.

VeisuItaTyhjyys
2008-01-24, 07:30 PM
They do have some good songs, but Shane has became such a bum, there are no ways to describe it. Literally, he's falling apart. I can't respect that kind of man, and his voice isn't *that* good to overcome the rest...
What kind of man would that be? One of the twentieth century's more brilliant poets? Or the singer in a successful musical group that effectively created a rather popular genre? Or, perhaps, you're referring to a political activist whose work helped the cause of the falsely accused Birmingham Six?
Perhaps you're simply referring to people with bad teeth.
As of late last year, when I saw the Pogues live, Shane is really not doing nearly so poorly as he is said to be. His voice is slurred and he was quite drunk, but he was clearly still quite aware of his surroundings, and I think part of it is something of a personae. He was actually cracking jokes about his poor concert habits of old; "It wouldn't be a Pogues show if I didn't bugger off half-way through to god knows where, and Spider wants to sing some of his songs. You ****ers be good while I'm gone, listen to Mr. Stacey." He's an alcoholic, surely, but he manages to, within his alcoholism, be a lot more functional than I imagine you (or myself, for that matter) to be sober.


Flogging Molly are best there is, IMHO.
Because Dave King has never been known to drink enough to kill men twice his size.

Also: Blood and Whiskey. Mourning Beloveth is great, and I think there's something of traditional Irish music in their sound.

Archpaladin Zousha
2008-01-24, 07:40 PM
For something a little more folksy I highly recommend Great Big Sea.

Great Big Sea's got great music, don't get me wrong, but they're not exactly Irish rock. They're Sea Shanty rock.

Oh, and about Shane. I heard from my brother that he was actually going to get his teeth fixed.

Smeik
2008-01-25, 02:00 AM
If you're more into the general celtic direction rather than only irish and are okay with a bit metal, i could recommend Skiltron (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=235821913), Celtic metal from Argentina.

Oh, and of course

Skyclad (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=121566484)
They are one of the greatest bands evah.

Love Flogging Molly and The Pogues too, btw.

Ted_Stryker
2008-01-25, 03:34 AM
Boiled In Lead (http://www.omnium.com/bil/)

Antler Dance is a terrific album.

Gorbash
2008-01-25, 08:16 AM
What kind of man would that be? One of the twentieth century's more brilliant poets? Or the singer in a successful musical group that effectively created a rather popular genre? Or, perhaps, you're referring to a political activist whose work helped the cause of the falsely accused Birmingham Six?
Perhaps you're simply referring to people with bad teeth.
As of late last year, when I saw the Pogues live, Shane is really not doing nearly so poorly as he is said to be. His voice is slurred and he was quite drunk, but he was clearly still quite aware of his surroundings, and I think part of it is something of a personae. He was actually cracking jokes about his poor concert habits of old; "It wouldn't be a Pogues show if I didn't bugger off half-way through to god knows where, and Spider wants to sing some of his songs. You ****ers be good while I'm gone, listen to Mr. Stacey." He's an alcoholic, surely, but he manages to, within his alcoholism, be a lot more functional than I imagine you (or myself, for that matter) to be sober.

Because Dave King has never been known to drink enough to kill men twice his size.

This (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gLDcQbe5GO8) and this (http://corygraham.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/shanemcgowan.jpg) is what I'm talking about... Find me a youtube video of Dave making a fool out of himself... Shane also had drug problems since he was a teenager. Just because he's functional while he's drunk, doesn't change the fact that he's an alcoholic, and that he's been kicked out of Pogues because of that, not to mention all other problems involving alcoholism...

We all know Dubliners made that genre, not Pogues...

Closet_Skeleton
2008-01-25, 08:57 AM
No, that's OK. The idea is to list good bands that mix rock (preferably hard or punk rock) with Irish/Scottish/Other Celtic trad styles, instruments, and songs. They need not be from Ireland; Flogging Molly is from Los Angeles, for cryin' out loud.

Well, that opens things up an awful lot. You could even go insane and throw Gospel music in since that has roots in Scottish Church music.

I would suggest Martyn Bennet if you're looking for genericly celtic stuff, but he doesn't limit himself to his native Scottland, uses Indian and Siberian influences for example, and is more experimental than Rock.

I may be a bit unfair to call Americans with Irish routes "the furthest thing from Island that still counts". Not that the band you mentioned neccesaraly has Irish ancestory.

Mephibosheth
2008-01-25, 09:32 AM
Another U.S.-based (in this case, Ohio) band that might be worth checking out is Brace Yourself Bridget (http://www.braceyourselfbridget.com). I don't know if they're the kind of heavy music you're looking for, but they definitely mix traditional elements with elements of rock, and they have some pretty good songs. You can also check them out on their MySpace page (http://www.myspace.com/11013026).

Telonius
2008-01-25, 10:11 AM
Try Black 47 (http://www.google.com/musica?aid=wVkUfjXD8dJ&sa=X&oi=music&ct=result) ... they do a pretty nice job of mixing the trad. with the rock.


They played at my university back about seven years ago, it was a pretty good concert. Glad to hear they're still together!

Whoracle
2008-01-25, 11:25 AM
Might as well try the latest Album from SuidAkra (http://www.suidakra.com/). Granted, it's metal, and more scottish than irish, but give "Caledonia" a shot.
Listen to "The IXth Legion" or "A Blackened Shield" for starters.

And Dropkick got more folk and less punk on their latest releases, "The Warriors Code" and "The Meanest Of Times". You have got to sift the tracks, though.

Felizginato12
2008-01-26, 10:01 AM
If you don't know anything about Irish rock, why enter conversation then? o.O



Sorry, I will stay off your internetz.