The Order Of The Stick: February

[Baron]

Carry on, as you were...

[pumpkinetics]

Sooo... When's the extra OoTS gonna be up?

My bet's friday.

[Baron]

I just wonder what the worlds coming to when comic writers are being subjected to armed robbery... ;)

[bedbugsareyummy]

I was thinking that..."Held Up".But then I thought it's just that he's late.
Silly, silly, me ;D

[Invariel]

So, umm, about that first comic of the month... (Jan. 31's, that is.) Uhh... Awesome shading.

[Starbuck_II]

I just wonder what the worlds coming to when comic writers are being subjected to armed robbery... ;)

He should yell out Order of the Stick. Maybe the robber will let him go because he likes the comic strip. ;D

[ShadowDragon8685]

I'd like to start a motion that we put out a hit on the son of a snake that said stick 'em up to our cartoonist.

[mirrek]

I'd like to start a motion that we put out a hit on the son of a snake that said stick 'em up to our cartoonist.

Maybe he just *really* wanted to get his hands on the OotS book and decided to go straight to the source?

[The_Oz-Man]

I for one think that this new strip--destined to be known as "Strip #144.5" or simply "Rich Got Held Up"--is among the worst the site has ever put up. There's no continuity with the series, for one; where are all of the old OotS characters? Are we now to assume that their existance relies on this mysterious "Rich" creature? Can we truly assume that an erratic personality like Belkar would be held up in the absence of this "Rich," or would he soldier on like the neurotic halfling that he is?

I normally like Giant's stuff, but this new strip just doesn't make sense. Perhaps it's just because it's a guest strip, but if this is the direction OotS is going, then I don't want to think about the future. Fifteen comics down the road, when you all are looking at strips bearing such terrifying epitaphs as "Rich is having lunch right now. No OotS until Thursday," or "Rich believes that tariff-free trade is the key to a truly open and successful world marketplace," you'll know that I'm right.

[SeanHeavyfoot]

*Regarding this conversation in general*
Wow, when you guys go for a while without OoTS... just wow. Overly-active imagination doesn't do you guys justice.

[The Giant]

So, I have returned.

I went to Winter Fantasy this weekend, which was great and I will discuss at length later. Getting back turned into something of an ordeal. Suffice to say, doctors were involved. Anyway, I am back now. I had made a crayon drawing to use as a placeholder while I work on the new strip, but I can't find it in my 6.02 x 1023 pieces of luggage. So you'll have to wait until I'm done with the new strip.

[Sundog]

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Re: The Order Of The Stick: January
« Reply #409 on: Jan 31st, 2005, 1:48pm »
on Jan 31st, 2005, 1:29pm, Sundog wrote:
AHHH! It's tuesday morning and no OOTS!

Going...going...cold turkeyy...


It's only Monday.

Ah, but I live in a place that is roughly 12 hours ahead of the OOTS time listings (US EST?). So it was, in fact, Tuesday when I posted that - here.

[Adghar]

Ooh! Perfect time to update the Extras page with more filler and fan art.

[GeekDaddy]

I for one think that this new strip--destined to be known as "Strip #144.5" or simply "Rich Got Held Up"--is among the worst the site has ever put up.


Actually, I think this is a marvelous strip. The minimalist technique employed by Rich goes to an even more basic level of thought than the stock figures that usually adorn the canvas do. Additionally, I must applaud Rich for having the introspective awareness to be able to bare his own soul, his innermost thoughts if you will, in such a way that they touch us all. And to be able to do so without compromising the minimalist nature of the work, well, I for one say Bravo, Rich! Bravo!

[RawBearNYC]

Actually, I think this is a marvelous strip. The minimalist technique employed by Rich goes to an even more basic level of thought than the stock figures that usually adorn the canvas do. Additionally, I must applaud Rich for having the introspective awareness to be able to bare his own soul, his innermost thoughts if you will, in such a way that they touch us all. And to be able to do so without compromising the minimalist nature of the work, well, I for one say Bravo, Rich! Bravo!

I don't know how I feel about Rich getting credit for my handiwork. *goes back and looks at the filler* No, wait, you're right, give Rich the credit.

[Maelstrom]

Well, someone did say Pirate's got to him...bit late after national Pirate day and all...but I suppose if you're going to get held up, it Might be Giants, er, as well be pirates...just not Drow Ninja Pirates....ever.

[GeekDaddy]

Well, someone did say Pirate's got to him...bit late after national Pirate day and all...but I suppose if you're going to get held up, it Might be Giants, er, as well be pirates...just not Drow Ninja Pirates....ever.

I have few friends who are doing Pirates at the Y or their health club. I guess it makes sense that there would be different styles of Pirates, but I have never heard of the Drow Ninja method. Sounds painful. But then again, no pain, no gain, eh?

[Zherog]

So, I have returned.

I went to Winter Fantasy this weekend, which was great and I will discuss at length later. Getting back turned into something of an ordeal. Suffice to say, doctors were involved. Anyway, I am back now. I had made a crayon drawing to use as a placeholder while I work on the new strip, but I can't find it in my 6.02 x 1023 pieces of luggage. So you'll have to wait until I'm done with the new strip.

You know, Rich - I've noticed a surprisingly high correlation between your attendance at Cons and the involvement of doctors upon your return. ;)

[The_Oz-Man]

Actually, I think this is a marvelous strip. The minimalist technique employed by Rich goes to an even more basic level of thought than the stock figures that usually adorn the canvas do. Additionally, I must applaud Rich for having the introspective awareness to be able to bare his own soul, his innermost thoughts if you will, in such a way that they touch us all. And to be able to do so without compromising the minimalist nature of the work, well, I for one say Bravo, Rich! Bravo!

Yes, but one must wonder if it's truly in Giant's best interest to toy with his canon at this point. We are hot off the heels of the introduction of an Order of the Stick book--a financial endeavor that has, thus far, proven at least somewhat fruitful. His growing celebrity among the webcomic community is not yet sufficient to warrant such experimentation; this is a time in his career when, I believe, he should stick to his guns, continuing to explore the characters he has already created. They are at the backbone of his fame, and as such, they are what he needs right now.

Perhaps down the road--before his peers and counterparts baring their claws and flashing accusations of "one-trick pony," we will see Rich Burlew, Minimalist, explored in a greater context. RawBear has provided an opening for just such an occasion, but such an opening seems to come with too much haste.

[GypsyThorn]

It was a bit disconcerting, but probably in the long run, not a bad idea to see a guest cartoonist in the space. However, I for one would have preferred the submission as a adjunct rather than a replacement. And as a piece of art, it certainly did evoke some good reaction. I particularly liked the way it broke the 4th wall in some novel ways.

Maybe next we can see what Keith would do?

[Aidan305]

The minimalist technique employed by Rich goes to an even more basic level of thought than the stock figures that usually adorn the canvas do.
??? But he doesn't use canvas ???

[diaglo]

??? But he doesn't use canvas ???


he doesn't do Basic either.

i think Rich is a Fortran kinda guy.

[Dragon_Rider]

but I can't find it in my 6.02 x 1023 pieces of luggage

wow...a mole of lugagge thats quite a lot, I'm surprised no one else picked that up. Maybe they didn't pay attention in chemistry class...ah well

[Were-Rat]

...but I can't find it in my 6.02 x 1023 pieces of luggage...

One mole of luggage?


edit:
... Oh, someone picked that up before me.

[Freeman333]

I have to agree with Sir Oz. While the characters in Order of the Stick have always been drawn in a simplistic manner--indeed, that is a large part the strip's charm--replacing the well-known, almost iconic figures of the cast at this late date with these gangly, letter-like images doesn't do much for the strip's portrayal of action and character. Rich's color pallat has always been broad and eye-catching; this switch to a bi-chromatic format seems like a step down in the art department.

Also, I'm having trouble understanding how this fits in with the current plot. Is that beige background the Wooden Forest? Is this somehow a step towards the starmetal ore, or is it another glance at the Linear Guild? I have to say, not to sound overly critical, but I hope Rich strongly considers leaving this strip out of the next book.

Also: Gnome-Mount, what is this chemistry class of which you speak? Those of us with Liberal Arts degrees know of no such thing. Do you mean to say that one might take classes in subjects that actually have some bearing on the actual world? What a concept... :o

[Peldor]

One mole of luggage?


edit:
... Oh, someone picked that up before me.

I don't see how. Even with a 25 Str, that's a lot of encumberance.

[Were-Rat]

I don't see how. Even with a 25 Str, that's a lot of encumberance.


Well, he used Avogadro's number.

Also, it depends on the GFM of the luggage.

[Dragon_Rider]

:D :D ;D :D :D
oh my god, and i thought i was alone in the world, me and my chemistry. Reading all of the above almost made me fall out of the chair!
:D

[Were-Rat]

Highschool sophomore, yo. Honors chem.

[Dragon_Rider]

I too am in high school, but I am a junior and am in Chemistry 2 while taking a semester chemistry course at the University of Pittsburgh (where I live). It is what I plan to major in for college.

With what do chemists make guacomole? avogardros!

But, maybe we should get oof the chemistry topic, this is a forum about OotS. So...do we know when OotS will be back up?

EDIT: (For The Giant), do you just simply remember Avogadros number from high school?

[Were-Rat]

I'm going for an English major, but all knowledge will come in handy one day, so honors courses I shall take. Junior, eh? At my highschool we take physics then.

No, I don't know when OOTS will be back up. But the potential energy is rising as the time ticks by and the temperature of the boards rise.

[Dragon_Rider]

Junior, eh? At my highschool we take physics then.


well, we have the option of taking either chem 2, bio 2, or physics and then in our senior year we can tkae bio 3 (or "higher level" as it is called), and physics 2

[Were-Rat]

We *never* get options at my school. I think we can take AP bio as a junior or senior but I'm not sure.

[Tharivol]

I think it's funny that this thread is on its third page and there hasn't even been a February OotS yet. ;D

[Dragon_Rider]

Ah well, i guess the blame falls on were rat and I, what with our chemistrry chats and all. i guess we're all just sitting around twiddling our thunbs until OotS comes back

*twiddle twiddle*

[Were-Rat]

(To be honest, I think I'm getting a low grade in chemistry. :-/)

But yeah. OOTS. Oh, I'm getting the book for my birthday. I can't wait!

And please, call me Were.

[Dragon_Rider]

sure thing Were, ol' buddy, ol' pal!

[Freeman333]

Sad to think that high school students know more about chemistry than I--a college graduate. But, then, as I said before, I was a Liberal Arts major, so I'm honor-bound to avoid ever learning anything useful. Like when the next OotS strip will be, for instance. I'm hoping for two on Friday, but maybe the ever-valorous Giant will surprise us with a new strip before the week ends. Pleeeeeeeze? *puppy eyes*

[Were-Rat]

Don't feel bad, I helped a college student get an A in his creative writing course.

Rich told us he'd give us the alloted strips this week, and so he shall keep his promise! I'm just laying back and speculating how they'll get out of this predicament.

[Zherog]

Sad to think that high school students know more about chemistry than I--a college graduate. But, then, as I said before, I was a Liberal Arts major, so I'm honor-bound to avoid ever learning anything useful. Like when the next OotS strip will be, for instance. I'm hoping for two on Friday, but maybe the ever-valorous Giant will surprise us with a new strip before the week ends. Pleeeeeeeze? *puppy eyes*

Well, since we usually get one on Thursdays I think your wish will be coming true. ;)

[Dragon_Rider]

Hey, who knows maybe we'll get TWO on thursday

or maybe not

but I know that whenever the new strip comes the releasing of a thousand breaths will be heard across the country as die hard fans stop pounding the reload button

well, acutally that probably happens every time, but ah well

[Were-Rat]

Hey, who knows maybe we'll get TWO on thursday

or maybe not


TWO on thursday? I couldn't handle it.

[Dragon_Rider]

Some one's brain could explode

Note: i added to above post in case you missed it

[Were-Rat]

Someone like Were-Rat's. And my brain is pretty precious to me. I used to sign onto the computers at school to see OOTS during the updates day, right next to the sign that said "No students on computers."

[Tharivol]

Than what, exactly, are your computers for? ???

[rthr_b_sailing]

just when I think Rich is an elder, (as am I), he gives me something I could not remember from my days in Chem, (soph high school... hmmmm '69-70??, my gawd I feel OLD!). :o

Thanks for catching that you young 'uns, help us old forgetful persons with CRS get the joke. ;D

edit: make that 4 pages on the first day of Feb and without a OoTS episode.

[Were-Rat]

Than what, exactly, are your computers for? ???


I was in the social studies' office at the time. The global and american history teachers use it to look up news articles and print out political cartoons.

[Freeman333]

And porn, of course.

Computers are for porn.

......What? What?

[bedbugsareyummy]

.OK. I checked this board at 7:20AM (see my previous post), now it's 5:10PM and there are three more pages?
Funkelicious

[RawBearNYC]

Voice of a mod

This is the gentlest nudge back in the vaguest direction of "on topic".

Thanks!

[Mirromax]

well, i think that if there are going to be 2 posts on thursday, i think its safe to say that some people will make some will saves.

im thinking dc 13 or be stunned for 1 round... but if you pass, you are dazed for one round.....

unless you have read this post and were aware that there was going to be a need to make a will save, in which case, you don't suffer any ill effects

[Dragon_Rider]

Thank god i have computer studies class on thursday, i dont think i'd be able to survive until i got home...

Ugh..another school reference, sorry

[Invariel]

I do believe that the linear and round characters in yesterday's comic represent the duality expressed within the Order of the Stick. By juxtaposing the two, Rich has clearly illustrated that while our adventurers are important, this other side must be truly explored in order for the comic to make sense.

[metaofantioch]

Of course! These 'lines' and 'circles' represent the primal forces that make up the very world behind OotS. This latest comic represents an abstract look into the essence of the prime plane, or perhaps the very forces behind arcane magic. Indeed, this could be the beginning of some sinister plotline in which the Order discovers the illustrated nature of their existence.

[SeanHeavyfoot]

YAY!! New COMIC!

Hmm... that chalkboard looked a lot like a certain persons spell that was found in a certain Dragon Magazine.

Also, am I missing something? Where did G.I. Joe come from?

[Eloco]

GI Joe is everywhere! but probably put there because "knowing is half the battle" is his tag line :)

Now Im hoping someone gets caught in lie and Rich brings in Wonder Woman to clear things up, a guy can dream right?

[Tarlonniel]

G. I. Joe - always ready with a chalkboard in time of need! ;D

[CHEESEGOD]

Aaah, I was wondering why GI Joe was there.

[Janitor]

Terrific, well worth the wait!

[Rannos]

YAY!! New COMIC!

Hmm... that chalkboard looked a lot like a certain persons spell that was found in a certain Dragon Magazine.

Also, am I missing something? Where did G.I. Joe come from?



I just noticed the other day that G.I. Joe is available on Boomerang. You've got to love all those classic cartoons that you grew up with. It's too bad you couldn't play a G.I. Joe based D20 system, though, because nobody would ever die. ;D


Great strip #145, btw.

[Starbuck_II]

I just noticed the other day that G.I. Joe is available on Boomerang. You've got to love all those classic cartoons that you grew up with. It's too bad you couldn't play a G.I. Joe based D20 system, though, because nobody would ever die. ;D

Great strip #145, btw.

GI Joe was awesome back than. They always used to have that semi-commercial with the kids and the saying, "Knowing if half the battle."

Maybe they will show Link (back when he had that sword that shot out stuff like Link's Adventure). I loved that cartoon. Only on Fridays though.

Althoiugh, V is wrong. Many DMs have 2 or 3 encounters in a day. V trust's the Dm too much.

[Wanderer]

Each party has one encounter(and only one) because random encounters are tedious and a waste of everyone's valuable time.

Ye gods... I wish you could convince MY DM of that... But no... every hour we travel, there's a roll for a possible random encounter. A high CR random encounter, too. And he wonders why so many of our parties get wiped out before we accomplish anything... *mutters under his breath*

[Maelflux]

Ye gods... I wish you could convince MY DM of that... But no... every hour we travel, there's a roll for a possible random encounter. A high CR random encounter, too. And he wonders why so many of our parties get wiped out before we accomplish anything... *mutters under his breath*

Wow.. I really hope you are travelling in some really really dangerous areas then, akin to Mordor at the peak of the war or such.. Otherwise that is a really silly rule imo. Imagine all the poor peasants - they would all perish going to see their kin in the village 2 hours away, in less than a year!

:)

[DeadManWalking]

I wonder if the GI Joe is in the strip in reference to the CNN story about the abducted US Marine in Iraq. In the photo that was displayed with the story the so called Marine was mostly likely a doll.

[Peldor]

No, it's in reference to "knowing is half the battle." Any 80's cartoon junkie would get it immediately.

[Ikkitosen]

Hmmmm.......I never saw this cartoon. Maybe it never made it to the UK :(.

[arche]

Good work V :)

There's also the hibernate tactic - after any battle, you just sleep the day and take an extra day to get there - lazy adventurers <_<

[xolik]

I use that 'and knowing is half the battle' bit at work quite a lot. It saddens me that most people don't get it. Dang younger generation. ;)

[archon_huskie]

Kid: So if knowing is half the battle, what's the other half?

Duke: Huh?

Kid: What's the other half?

Duke: Oh! Killing those *$@#$# Commie bastards!

[Aidan305]

What has V done! It has invited Murphy's Law upon the party! Flee; flee while you still can!

[Fengen]

For those of you who enjoy both GI Joe and hilarity, I suggest watching some of the clips found here. Some quality material, though some of it is just crazy and random.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/gijoe.html

[Old_Man]

I love the retro cameos, first the Hostess Fruit Pie Magician, now Joe. What’s next, Shazam? Will Belkar get a Superwheel if he looses the wiener dog?

[Raxtenko]

I just noticed the other day that G.I. Joe is available on Boomerang. You've got to love all those classic cartoons that you grew up with. It's too bad you couldn't play a G.I. Joe based D20 system, though, because nobody would ever die. ;D

Hey Duke "died," but then again it was in the GI Joe movie, so I wouldn't blame you if you never watched it.

Great comic. Personally I'm hoping for He-man next time, but I odubt that would ever happen.

[WhiteMonkey]

Dang straight knowing is half the battle! YO JOE!
Anybody remember when they taught us not to play on traintracks?


Hmmmm.......I never saw this cartoon. Maybe it never made it to the UK :(.
You know, this statement explains a lot. I often wondered why the rest of the world didn't seem to realize just how awesome American Megalomaniacal Corporation/Terrorist Groups were. I mean it was as if they'd never herd of Cobra Commander. It was like they didn't know that good guys had lame equipment and bad guys had cool metal masks, heads, weapons and hot chicks.

But Surpentor doesn't count. He was one lame Euro-trash mutant. Shoot, as I recall he flew around on a stupid "flying snake scooter". Basically, this guy teaches us not to combine the DNA of Hitler, Napoleon, Attila the Hun and Gangues Kahn with snakes.

So, so lame.

I can't believe that Cobra Commander didn't get elected president with this awesome campaign ad...

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2463

[Freeman333]

So...wait. Does an encounter with G.I. Joe count as a random encounter? Because if it does, that's already put the kibosh on V's little theory...

[Peldor]

No, I think Joe's a summoned monster in this case.

[Lilly]

Well I hope that Rich is better from whatever he cought or broke or messed up at the con.

EEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee New Comic!!!

How come V is the only one who seems to be killing anything latley?

[Raxtenko]

No, I think Joe's a summoned monster in this case.

Too bad. If he joined up he could function as a very effective meat shield.

[Old_Man]

Too bad. If he joined up he could function as a very effective meat shield.

No, he can’t be a meat shield, Joe never gets hit. Weapons can only affect robots and helicopters, and with the later, the occupant gets to jump out first.

[Gamebird]

I remember the strangest GI Joe was when they defeated Cobra Commander only to have all his terrorist employees go on welfare and unemployment. It was bankrupting the government, so they had to let him go. ???

[bournie]

I to worry about murphy's law here, but (s)he does have plenty of low level stuff to burn.

There only went 1 MM 1 LB and 2FB

No Melfs AA (One of my favourites) or other second level spells.

And back to the level debate assuming that V doesn't use a feat to expand on his MM he is at least Lvl 9 (5 Missiles)

Assuming this and that V has atleast 18 Int he has at least 1 3rd level up his sleeve, and knowing the way he wields his arcane power, he still got some kaboom!!! Of course speed of plot does tend to burn metagaming very quickly!

[Knight13]

Gangues Kahn
You mean Gengis Khan? Geez, at least know how to spell the names of long dead world conquerors.

[Entertainer13]

That strip was worth waiting for, lol. GI Joe indeed...

[Dragon_Rider]

And then one tomorrow? Yee-haw!

[Mondo]

It's too bad you couldn't play a G.I. Joe based D20 system, though, because nobody would ever die. ;D



Sort of like a D20 A-Team adventure where no one would get shot.

[Dragon_Rider]

Sort of like a D20 A-Team adventure where no one would get shot

that would be hilarious...

[Nighthawk4]

I hope Belkar's dog didn't get eaten - that was funny ;)

[Dragon_Rider]

That would be a waste of money (and a good dog, we would'nt want the druids with pointy sticks to get mad, now would we?)

Also, i noticed that Belkar has yet to flaunt his newfound barbarian abilities! you'd think by now he'd running around screaming "fast movement!" or rage at everything

[Raxtenko]

No, he can’t be a meat shield, Joe never gets hit. Weapons can only affect robots and helicopters, and with the later, the occupant gets to jump out first.

Exactly, he'd run in front of the party, and all projectile weapons, and ranged spells would miss him. The enemy would waste all of their resources, and then the party could move in and finish the job.

Eh, maybe I should have phrased it better the first time.

[Bill]

I use that 'and knowing is half the battle' bit at work quite a lot. It saddens me that most people don't get it. Dang younger generation. ;)

Snort. Anyone who watched the GI Joe cartoon is a youngster.

[deathregis]

I'm too young to have watched GI Joe and I'm an adult

[Grey Watcher]

I'm too young to have watched GI Joe and I'm an adult

Thanks, I feel so young now. :P

[Were-Rat]

Thanks, I feel so young now. :P


I just feel left out. :'(

[Dragon_Rider]

Its alright Were, I have absolutely no idea what they're talking about either

[evileeyore]

I'm too young to have watched GI Joe and I'm an adult


Thats unpossible!

GI Joe ran all the way up till 1986. That means if you missed it your under 20. Under 20 means not Adult.

:P


I r laern to sepll...

[Were-Rat]

Its alright Were, I have absolutely no idea what they're talking about either


Fellow teenager! Let us group together and talk about current events.

[Dragon_Rider]

So yeah...chemistry...just kidding!!!!!

[Were-Rat]

So yeah...chemistry...just kidding!!!!!


Either that or the 90's.

[Dragon_Rider]

UNfortunately, this is an OotS:February thread, so lets not get to off track or we might get another little "nudge" form a mod...

[Were-Rat]

UNfortunately, this is an OotS:February thread, so lets not get to off track or we might get another little "nudge" form a mod...


True, true.

So I guess in the next strip we'll expect the gang to make it to the forest?

[deathregis]

Thats unpossible!

GI Joe ran all the way up till 1986. That means if you missed it your under 20. Under 20 means not Adult.

:P


I was born in 1986. I'm 18, and I'm a freakin' legal adult.

[Dragon_Rider]

So I guess in the next strip we'll expect the gang to make it to the forest?

one can only hope...unless of course the whole "murphy's law" thing comes true but i think that the plot line needs a boost after all that stuff in town i think something major should happen

[AtomicKitKat]

I was born in 1986. I'm 18, and I'm a freakin' legal adult.

That depends entirely on your country/state laws. Some places consider 18 adult enough to drink/drive/smoke/gamble/watch X-rated stuff, in others, it's 21.

I'm 24 though. :P I remember the "Don't play on train tracks" message. I think I caught the cartoon around the 1990s(here in Asia we usually get stuff 3 years behind or so)

[deathregis]

That depends entirely on your country/state laws. Some places consider 18 adult enough to drink/drive/smoke/gamble/watch X-rated stuff, in others, it's 21.


As an American, I can do everything but drink at 18, and am officially an adult.

Somebody said that the people who watched GI Joe were youngsters, but they aren't THAT young, seeing as I'm younger and I'm legally considered to be an adult. That's all.

[archon_huskie]

There's also the GI:Joe Extreme that ran for two years during the mid 90's.

[AtomicKitKat]

Scariest episode of Joe was when they fought some old woman who was stealing the faces of young girls. Had nightmares of faceless people moaning at me for the next few years. :-[

[metaofantioch]

Alright, I'm 18 and I remember GI Joe cartoons. Perhaps I just saw reruns...

[Shatteredtower]

Scariest episode of Joe was when they fought some old woman who was stealing the faces of young girls. Had nightmares of faceless people moaning at me for the next few years. :-[

Bah! I've had that nightmare since the original run of The Avengers, thanks to a misunderstanding of what I was seeing during the mind transfer episode. Ever since then, the things you could do with helmeted Lego figures by twisting the faces around inside the helmets gave me the creeps...

But back to the strip itself, I have a question -- what if your party actually prefers random encounters to plotlines? Doesn't that spoil V's premise?

[Entertainer13]

I'm 20. My favorite cartoons of all time are Transformers and She-Ra. Ho ha!

I think younger people also know GI Joe from those flash toons running around, mocking the service announcments.

"Hey man, stop the downloading!"

[deathregis]

Yeah, I know the reference, but I've never actually seen the show.

ANYWAY...

New comic. Finally someone saying what we're all thinking. And saying in nitpicker threads. Also, kudos for badgers.

[pumpkinetics]

See! The bag of tricks does have a use.

[Nighthawk4]

I thought it must be a skunk ;)

[SumGuy]

Way to freaking go Giant...I am now kicked out of my room for laughing so loudly at the last pannel that I woke up my roomate :P

Seriously, this is one of your better strips Rich. Thanks for the laugh, I really needed one.

[Raxtenko]

Holy crap, that was hilarious. Now I want a Bag of Tricks for my character.

[SeanHeavyfoot]

Interesting little tid-bit on sleep and such. Our brains are on a 25 hour cycle yet we live in a world that is dominated by a 24 hour cycle.

[Elethiomel]

I so agree with Belkar's sentiment. He could have found a more diplomatic way of putting it - but hey, this is Belkar.

25 hour cycle? Not on your life. My cycle is more like one with two wheels out of kilter.

[Caelestion]

Fear the badger of doom! Just what I'd like to do to one or two players of my acquaintance!

Cael.

[Peldor]

Funny as hell, and Belkar probably just found another hat. ;D

[Invariel]

1. Great comic.
2. Great crayon comic.
3. I remember G. I. Joe.
4. I also remember the following public service announcement

<Robot, jumping through very interesting obstacle course, with metal spinning cut wheels and the like>
<Robot gets arm cut off>
"I am Astar. A robot from the planet Danger. I can put my arm back on."
<Robot does so.>
"You can't. So play safe."

[Janitor]

Great comic.

I wish I could have gone to the convention though. Pffft... Stupid college.

[Dragon555]

I also wish I could have gone to the convention, but *sigh* I can't drive if nothing else.

Great comic. I'm personally amazed that Belkar took such a diplomatic route to this at all. :)

[bournie]

Ok firstly, I love going home to my eMac, the comics colours are always more true and look that much better than my work station, even if everything has to load through dial up...

Secondly and this is terrible and I'm sure it could possibly offend someone, if you are easily offended, or perhaps even female, I warn and apologise now... (if a mod decides this is too offensive I humbly apologise and will have no qualms about it's removal, but sometimes you just have to say whats going through your head).


Lucky it's a badger and not a beaver...

Groan, slap with Sexual harrasment lawsuit...

[Ricky]

<Robot, jumping through very interesting obstacle course, with metal spinning cut wheels and the like>
<Robot gets arm cut off>
"I am Astar. A robot from the planet Danger. I can put my arm back on."
<Robot does so.>
"You can't. So play safe."

I remember that commercial!

Great comic today! I laughed out loud at the last panel. But it looks like a skunk to me, not a badger.

And the little extra panel about the Con is cute! :)

[Shatteredtower]

As a Canadian, I must take exception to the remarks immediately preceding the ones immediately preceding my own...

:P

You know, I can only think of one thing to say in regard to today's comic:

Touché, Giant... touché.

[Xar]

Isn't the badger/skunk thing mostly one of national origin?

I immediately thought that it was a skunk, too.


I just remember reading something about the final episode of Star Trek TNG, that Data's British housekeeper said the white streak in his hair looked like a skunk...And people complained that she should have said that it looked like a badger, because she was British.

[lartinger]

deathregis: I was born in 1986. I'm 18, and I'm a freakin' legal adult.

BORN in 1986? I graduated high school in 1987. Ok now I feel old, sigh.

[Nighthawk4]

Funny you should say that. I am British, but I assumed it was a skunk as I know Rich is American. :D

[Peldor]

If it's a skunk, somebody stole the fluffy tail.

[SeanHeavyfoot]

Isn't the badger/skunk thing mostly one of national origin?

I immediately thought that it was a skunk, too.


I just remember reading something about the final episode of Star Trek TNG, that Data's British housekeeper said the white streak in his hair looked like a skunk...And people complained that she should have said that it looked like a badger, because she was British.



Push come to shove, I'd rather fight a skunk than a badger. A skunk will eventually run off. A badger would fight until either 1 of two things have happened:
1) You are a corpse or,
2) It is a corpse

[Shatteredtower]

Push come to shove, I'd rather fight a skunk than a badger.

A bad idea in both cases. Skunks tend to be awfully prone to rabies, due in part to their usual method for defending themselves against other rabid animals.

[Dargoan]

If it is the Gery bag of tricks(i know its tan but its clearly not) that would mean its a badger.
Dont think the gery bag of tricks summoned stunks.

But correct me if im wrong and btw Great comic this week

[Old_Man]

It's a, badger badger badger badger... mushroom mushroom.

[Janitor]

Panic! a snake, snake, a snake, ooooo, it's a snake!

[GeekDaddy]

Interesting little tid-bit on sleep and such. Our brains are on a 25 hour cycle yet we live in a world that is dominated by a 24 hour cycle.

Yeah it's all this big, massive plot by the Illuminati to throw off everyone's body clocks in an attempt to facilitate thei goals of a one world government. You see, the earth used to require 25 whole hours to complete one full rotation on it's axis, but thanks to the intruduction of jet propulsion and nuclear powered aircraft engines they have secret sped up the earth's rotation to only take 24 hours and some change. Forget global warming! If this keeps up we're either going to be squished flat by the increase in gravity! Run for the highest hill you can find! You'll stand a better chance!

fnord

[Aidan305]

I wonder if the badger's raging?

[rthr_b_sailing]

Ok, the question is Skunk or Badger.

My initial reaction was the color markings matched a skunk, (which I have seen in real life and too close for comfort).

Upon further review, the markings are similar to the badger mascot for the U of Wisconsin, (almost went there as I grew up in Wis).

I submit that therefore it is a badger, not a skunk due to the lack of a bushy tail, which Badgers do not have. And a badger is a much more aggresive animal than a skunk, and hence a better chance of bothering Belkar longer.

[Dargoan]

if its a badger maybe he could take it on as his animal companion :)

lol but i think Belkar more likely to kill it

[AtomicKitKat]

Hmm, it all depends on how permanent the bag's animals are, innit? ;D

[Entertainer13]

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger

Football*, football!

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger

Football, football!

Goal! It's a goal!

*this parody was made in the UK. You do the match.

[Maelstrom]

... sped up the earth's rotation to only take 24 hours and some change. Forget global warming! If this keeps up we're either going to be squished flat by the increase in gravity! ...

An increase in the earth's rotation would increase the centrifugal force, and as such would actually decrease the effect of Earths gravitational pull...

And, I say polecat!! Polecat!! :) Well, not really, but a striped skunk...Skunks have two distinctive stripes on their backs...a bader only has one, and that does not generally go all the way down it's back...

[Zherog]

deathregis: I was born in 1986. I'm 18, and I'm a freakin' legal adult.

BORN in 1986? I graduated high school in 1987. Ok now I feel old, sigh.



Heh. I graduated in '88. We can park our wheelchairs next to each other and shake our canes at these young whippersnappers!

:P

[mossfoot]

Hey all ;) Back from the dead here.

Man, now I've got a hella lot of catching up to do... earn some money so I can get the trade paperback, but it's all worth it :D

It's a bit late, but the GI Joe bit was priceless ;D

[Freeman333]

Heh. I graduated in '88. We can park our wheelchairs next to each other and shake our canes at these young whippersnappers!

:P

Well, I was feeling old next to all these 18-year-olds, but I graduated high school in '98. Guess I got nothing on you in the age department, grampa.

I'll never, ever be able to see a G.I.Joe character again without thinking either "Stop all the downloading!" or "Who wants a body massage?" Ahh, the internet--where comedic genius meets way too much free time.

Also: I assumed it was a skunk, since a bad smelling animal would be more insulting to throw in someone's face. But hey, can't go wrong with a badger. That's like jamming a blender on "mutilate" and tossing it at somebody. "Awww, what a cute little pup--IIIIEEEE! Aaaaagh! Getitoffgetitoffgetitoff!"

Okay, so, final question: who gets guard duty now? Is Roy going to admit that the fact that he doesn't have any kind of weapon (bag of skunks/badgers aside) makes him a lousy choice to guard everyone while they're sleeping? I'm thinking not, but what's he going to do if monsters show up during the night? Feed them weasels until they die of high cholesterol?

[GypsyThorn]

(Okay, so it's probably not a wombat....)

I think it's a snipe.

And in doing so, Rich has done me a great service. First time I've ever seen a snipe, despite being led on quite a number of hunts for them....

[GeekDaddy]

Yeah. Badger. Definitely. Definitely Badger. Definitely.

A skunk would stink up the whole campsite. I don't remember ever seeing a Dire Skunk or Celestial Skunk listed in the MM. Plus, a month or so ago, I had three different people in three different PbP games all mention something about badgers, summoning badger or badger familiars all within a couple days of each other. And I don't think any of them live in Wisconsin. Therefore, I say again, badger!

As for guard duty? The Laws of Comedy demand that that honor go to Belkar. If Belkar gets it, Roy STILL won't get a night's sleep out of fear and distrust. Or, Belkar gets bored and goes exploring only to return to find the whole party wrapped in webbing while a Giant Spider and a bottle of ketchup sit nearby. Then again, maybe this will be the introduction of the "Ranger gets lost in the woods" story line.

[evileeyore]

I wonder if the badger's raging?


Only if it has atleast one level in Barbarian.

[Zherog]

Nope - Badgers have a form of Rage as a racial ability. From the SRD:


Rage (Ex): A badger that takes damage in combat flies into a berserk rage on its next turn, clawing and biting madly until either it or its opponent is dead. It gains +4 to Strength, +4 to Constitution, and –2 to Armor Class. The creature cannot end its rage voluntarily.

[Yuki Akuma]

I love how Roy's wearing his Bag of Tricks on his belt...

[metaofantioch]

I assumed badger, because 1) I see badgers much more often in DnD, they're just sort of engrained in the system and 2) no bushy tail.

[archon_huskie]

I assumed badger, because 1) I see badgers much more often in DnD, they're just sort of engrained in the system and 2) no bushy tail.


Maybe it is a Dire Badger!

[Aidan305]

It's a badger. I looked it up in the DMG earlier.

I love the badgers innate ability to rage. Our party paladin got quite a shoch when he found out about it.

[The_Shadow]

1. I also vote for badger.

2. I graduated from high school in 1987.

3. I watched GI Joe as a kid.

4. I think Belkar has been replaced by a doppelgaenger. I've never seen him express a point so clearly, logically, and almost-politely.

[Grey Watcher]

4. I think Belkar has been replaced by a doppelgaenger. I've never seen him express a point so clearly, logically, and almost-politely.

I was thinking that myself (not the doppleganger thing, just the fact that he is being uncharacteristically articulate, rational, and diplomatic.)

[Raxtenko]

4. I think Belkar has been replaced by a doppelgaenger. I've never seen him express a point so clearly, logically, and almost-politely.

Yes, since OoTS has been ripped off twice now, by my count, The Giant must rip off Nodwick (http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/nodwick/gamespyarchive/gspynod058.html), to even the scales.

[Ohtar_Turinson]

Wow... someone in my D&D group did that just last sunday. He had found a gray bag of tricks (the choice was inspired by OoTS) and for a while, whenever the bard started talking, he'd throw an animal at him... except he's a pyrokinitist. So the animals were on fire.

[Wanderer]

Good Heavens, that sounds like something I'd do. Heck, one of my early sorcerors was an elemental savant of fire, and if he'd had a bag of tricks that's exactly what he WOULD have done... ;D

[Dragon_Rider]

Unfortunately, my current character likes the forest and all the small mammals that inhabit it (think forest gnome). he even carries around a wand of flame extinguishing which comes in handy when the cleric casts entangle and the battle mage decides to light it on fire. There have been many times when we almost had to play out a PC vs PC battle but eh DM never let it get that far

Kinda unrelated..ah well

[AtomicKitKat]

Maybe it is a Dire Badger!

Lacking the bony plates.

Funny thing, when I first saw the comic, my initial thought was "SKUNK!", due to the markings, but closer inspection revealed massive CLAWS, which are more characteristic of the badger.

[DNiemoeller]

Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with badger to. Though a skunk would've been really funny.

Well, considering the rest of the party would like to sleep at that campsite, maybe not so funny after all.

[archon_huskie]

I was thinking that myself (not the doppleganger thing, just the fact that he is being uncharacteristically articulate, rational, and diplomatic.)

Well come on now. He is a barbarian now.

[Kish]

Skunk or badger, it certainly stretches the definition of "useless in combat," as Roy said the creatures from his Bag must be.

[pumpkinetics]

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger

Football*, football!

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger

Football, football!

Goal! It's a goal!

*this parody was made in the UK. You do the match.


INCORRECT!!! It goes:

Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy,...

ENGLAND, ENGLAND...

etcetra. The goal bit's right though

[AtomicKitKat]

Well come on now. He is a barbarian now.

Yes, that IS a step UP on the ladder of civilisation. ;D

[Entertainer13]

INCORRECT!!! It goes:

Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy, Footy,...

ENGLAND, ENGLAND...

etcetra. The goal bit's right though


Not the version I saw. *shrug*

[Maelstrom]

Sooooo...was the crayon sketch the "extra" comic for the week?? ???

[Peldor]

There's always Saturday!

[Hobot]

Sooooo...was the crayon sketch the "extra" comic for the week?? ???

No, the extra was the one on Wednesday.

http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=145

[Dragon_Rider]

No there were two comics this week, one on wednesday and one on thursday. The question that should be asked is what did Rich mean by "extra comic"?

a.) DId he mean that there would be one inaddition to the normal two

or

b.) Did he mean that since there was no comic on monday,, the extra one would be on wednesday as if saying that normally there sould only be one comic this week because he "missed the deadline"

EDIT: Proofreading is good....

[evileeyore]

I was thinking that myself (not the doppleganger thing, just the fact that he is being uncharacteristically articulate, rational, and diplomatic.)


No he isn't. He is being snide and obnoxious, as well as hypocritical. He is in fact stereotypically Belkar.

And Roy makes the best comeback ever. I think this comic is rocketing right to my personal OotS favorite position.

[Dragon_Rider]

Yeah you're right, its definetly up there in my favorites but I'm not sure anything can surpass the fact that Roy has great cleavage!

[The_Shadow]

No he isn't. He is being snide and obnoxious, as well as hypocritical. He is in fact stereotypically Belkar.

Hmm. Well, he certainly wasn't Mr. Congeniality, I grant you, but I can't recall Belkar ever coming up with such a sustained set of points that way before... and he seemed nicer about it than he usually does. (It seems really odd for him to say things like "deeply disappointed" - as if he expected better.)

And (much like the surprise with Elan: "You- you KNOW something!!") he was actually RIGHT. Granted that Roy needs to grow some Sense Motive, but he's always struck me as a pretty sensible guy otherwise and a good leader; until now. What sort of fighter goes on a quest without a weapon?? That's just dumb!

[Grey Watcher]

No he isn't. He is being snide and obnoxious, as well as hypocritical. He is in fact stereotypically Belkar.

Well, I meant articulate, rational, and diplomatic for Belkar. Granted, in the grand scheme of things, he's still being rude, snide, and nasty, but there's no stabbing, maiming, or other violence, no shouting or cursing, and his points are well-thought out and expressed in an intelligent, logical manner.

[Were-Rat]

I always thought that Belkar was fairly intelligent. A little extra anger doesn't mean he's stupid.

[pumpkinetics]

Not the version I saw. *shrug*


This is the official version (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/35/), shown on the site

[Grey Watcher]

I always thought that Belkar was fairly intelligent. A little extra anger doesn't mean he's stupid.

How intelligent he IS is one thing. I'm talking about how intelligently he EXPRESSES himself.

[ShadowDragon8685]

Why dosen't Roy have a club?

Sure it's only a Light 1d6, but it's the cheapest damn 1d6 Lethal you'll ever find - it's FREE. Just rip a good stick off a tree, or pick it up off the ground: club!

[Were-Rat]

I think we already went over that. He didn't want the magic sword they found in Xykon's throne room, either. It's an honor thing.

[Wanderer]

He was willing to try to BUY another weapon for this trip... I don't think it's an honor thing. I think it's a "lack of conveniently placed trees" thing. Can't break off a branch or pick up a stick if there aren't any branches or sticks to be found...

Although wisdom could have suggested grabbing one of those spears from the trolls...

[Raxtenko]

He was willing to try to BUY another weapon for this trip... I don't think it's an honor thing. I think it's a "lack of conveniently placed trees" thing. Can't break off a branch or pick up a stick if there aren't any branches or sticks to be found...

Although wisdom could have suggested grabbing one of those spears from the trolls...

But those are Troll sized spears. I'm almost certain that the rules prevent him from using them.

[Yuki Akuma]

No, they don't, he'd just take a -2 penalty to attack rolls. A pitence for a level ten (ish) Fighter...

[Nighthawk4]

Two questions:

1. Where did the chalkboard come from?

2. Once V had finished with it, couldn't Roy have broken it up and used a length of timber from it as a club?

Hehe - just kidding. The chalkboard was a plot-device, so it was just 'there' when required.

I admit I had rather hoped for an extra (i.e. third) episode this week. However, the two we got were especially good ones, so fair enough.

*Looks forward to Monday - even if it does mean back to work* :D

[Pharazon]

Two questions:

1. Where did the chalkboard come from?

2. Once V had finished with it, couldn't Roy have broken it up and used a length of timber from it as a club?

Hehe - just kidding. The chalkboard was a plot-device, so it was just 'there' when required.

I admit I had rather hoped for an extra (i.e. third) episode this week. However, the two we got were especially good ones, so fair enough.

*Looks forward to Monday - even if it does mean back to work* :D

Indeed, a plotdevice. Reminds of the 'gag-reflex' in BnG:
http://www.bobandgeorge.com/Archive/May04.php?date=27

Don't want to advertise or anything, just finding the coincidence uncanny and worth mentioning.

And I think Belkar was just a normal Belkar, seeing as the way he put it this time was the most annoying way he could have put it, which is typical for him. For example, the 'deeply disappointed'-part probably stung a lot deeper than any insult would have done.

[ShadowDragon8685]

They're going to a forest. There can't be a lack of sticks suitable for club-dom then.


Hmmmmmm...

[Starbuck_II]

They're going to a forest. There can't be a lack of sticks suitable for club-dom then.


Hmmmmmm...
Roy traded proficincy of weapon with everything but sword to get 1d12 Hp/level
He also gave up shields. Its the the only logical solution.

[Kish]

He also gave up shields.
Roy's normal weapon of choice is a greatsword, and thus two-handed, so he wouldn't be using a shield with it.

[Shatteredtower]

They need to find a lich. Roy wields those pretty effectively. :P

[Dragon_Rider]

Well, the arguement/mystery of the chalk board's appearance/dissapearance was simply written off as "a plot-device" so why can't we just end this by saying "Roy doesn't have a weapon because its funny that he doesn't have a weapon and thats is the entire popint of this comic strip, to be funny at the expense of reason and rationale."

[pumpkinetics]

But we must have things to mindlessly bicker about, otherwise we will surely perish!

[Dragon_Rider]

I guess so, there must be something to occupy the blank space between our ears, at least until monday!

[Maelstrom]

Like a junkie, I'm still looking for that extra fix that was promised ;D

Great entertainment, Rich...just a shame you're on the right coast and not hitting our west coast cnventions ;) Keep up the great work...and I still say skunk!!

[pumpkinetics]

Badger!

[Frojoe21]

Mushroom

[bedbugsareyummy]

Snake.

I thought it might be a skunk, but then I read the strip again today and saw the lack of poof-tail and two white stripes, not one.

[Shatteredtower]

Miniature, fur-bearing, albino hippopotamus -- with racing stripes!

And adamantine claws!

[L_Opoponax]

Fiendish Dire Tribble.

[Shatteredtower]

I am forced to concede defeat. Well played.

[bournie]

Sorry to spoil you fun, it's a Badger, says so in the DMG/SRD.

Sniff - Sniif, I'm sorry I couldn't help it, coming back to check posts and finding three pages of badger/skunk was just killing me, I think I need professional help...

[L_Opoponax]

I am forced to concede defeat. Well played.
Thank you :)

[pumpkinetics]

We win.

[Caledonian]

Wow, the plot thickens even further. We now have three simultaneous storylines taking place - and if the cutscenes from the end of the first cycle were correct, we're soon to have at least one more.

I hope Rich knows what he's doing; he's putting an awful lot on his plate. This may be the most complex and nuanced gaming comic ever, with the possible exception of FuzzyKnights. I love it, but I can't help but be a little daunted at the thought of keeping all these balls in the air, so to speak.

[Aidan305]

I wonder if the creature of shadows will ever get to enter the light?

[Darasen]

Am I nuts or was that a Hello Kitty umbrella ? Funny strip !

[SumGuy]

no, its not Hello Kitty.

Hello Kitty is a trademarked item, and the ootsters would recieve another visit from the Lawyers if it was used in the comic

It is therefore a Hi There Kitten umbrella, the intelectual property of Rich only :)

[Ricky]

Today's comic made me laugh out loud! The umbrella was brilliant!

[Janitor]

Papa Roach, terrific!

[AtomicKitKat]

Papa Roach, Redcloak getting some stones, and the mystery monster being forced to hide under the Heya Kitten parasol. Priceless.

[L_Opoponax]

It looked to me like the kitty faces had fangs... Nice touch! ;D

[lartinger]

They didn't look like kitty faces to me -- they looked like little monster faces.

Also, LOVED the Papa Smurf Roach bit! Too funny!

[Peldor]

Typo in #147: phylactery

I love Redcloak's attitude in this one. :D

[RawBearNYC]

It's "Hiya, Dire Cat". It's a fresh import just in from Oriental Adventures, now at a village general store near you.

[Knight13]

I think Redcloak got a spine and maybe a piece of femur. ;D


They need to find a lich. Roy wields those pretty effectively.
This is actually more feasible than it sounds. I read a book once where a town was under attack by an army of elves (note that in this world elves are evil creatures that seek to enter our world and enslave us all). The town's blacksmith simply grabbed the nearest elf and began to beat on the other elves with it. ;)

[Aidan305]

The book you're referring to would be "Lords and Ladies".

Ah Mr Pratchett. Is there anything you can't do?

[Dragon_Rider]

I must agree, Mr. Pratchett is quite a genius

[Blackdog]

I wonder if there's another Gate in the Southern Mountains...

Either way I like the new character Redcloak is showing! ...but come to think of it, why is he holding a light?

[Knight13]

Of course I know which book it was, I'm trying to collect all of Mr. Pratchett's books, I've got about 10 or so. I wish D&D elves were vulnerable to iron, it would make it so much easier to kill them. And pray your DM never makes you fight Granny Weatherwax, your defeat would be inevitable.

[bedbugsareyummy]

Also, pray you never encounter the Death from Discworld.
It would be funny to have Rincewind as a DnD boss.

[Zherog]

I wish D&D elves were vulnerable to iron, it would make it so much easier to kill them.


D&D elves are vulnerable to iron, since as a race they have no specific damage reduction abilities. You could hit 'em with a rubber mallet and they'd be vulnerable. ;)

[Invariel]

Except that I'm pretty sure a rubber mallet can only deal subdual damage...

[Knight13]

Also, pray you never encounter the Death from Discworld.
Are you kidding, I hope he's there when I die! That would be a lot more interesting than any of sort of afterlife I can think of.


D&D elves are vulnerable to iron, since as a race they have no specific damage reduction abilities. You could hit 'em with a rubber mallet and they'd be vulnerable.
Yes D&D elves can be harmed by iron, but Discworld elves are particularly susceptible to it. The book never really goes into detail about it, but apparently they can sense magnetism and just being near iron makes them uncomfortable.

[AtomicKitKat]

*gets a hernia as he tries to push the conversation back towards the comics for the month* :-[

[Dragon_Rider]

That was funny AKK, although I'm gulity of going off on tangents in the mothly stickys before...ah wel

[Were-Rat]

Anyway... About the hello kitty umbrella used in today's strip. I used to have one. :-[

I have since upgraded to a Pucca umbrella. :-/

[Aedan]

Wouldn't the Hello Kitty umbrella be considered Copyright infringement?

[pumpkinetics]

Also note: The Heya dire cat has three fangs, quite unusual.

I vote this as a clue to what the monster is.

[Payne]

Except that I'm pretty sure a rubber mallet can only deal subdual damage...

So they are vulnerable to iron! ;D

[Starbuck_II]

Are you kidding, I hope he's there when I die! That would be a lot more interesting than any of sort of afterlife I can think of.

Yes D&D elves can be harmed by iron, but Discworld elves are particularly susceptible to it. The book never really goes into detail about it, but apparently they can sense magnetism and just being near iron makes them uncomfortable.

Being uncomfrotable is just a role play aspect though. No benefit against them.

[Caledonian]

This is precisely why rules-lawyers should never try to represent beings from works of fiction in D&D.

The Discworld elves' magic was disrupted and negated by magnetic fields. That's why the portal to their world was sealed off by the standing stones, and why their spells collapsed when they were faced with iron. The elves were petty and vain - they were also ugly and weak, which is why they cast glamours to make everyone else see them as astonishingly beautiful, dominated the minds of those they came across, and tormented those they met. Iron not only screwed up their physiology, but revealed a truth that would be immensely psychologically painful.

D&D doesn't even have penalties for massive physical injuries.

[Yuki Akuma]

Being uncomfrotable is just a role play aspect though. No benefit against them.

...And in Discworld, iron is the only thing that can kill Elves, which are immortal otherwise.

[AtomicKitKat]

D&D doesn't even have penalties for massive physical injuries.

Actually, there were options in 2nd Ed where you could be limping or worse, due to injuries to specific bodyparts. Even back then, there were rules for "death by massive damage"(which carried over to 3/3.5E)

[DrDoom]

I think that was a typo and Caledonian meant "psychological" rather then "physical".

[egomann]

D&D doesn't even have penalties for massive physical injuries.


Try Hackmaster on for size. Their Critical Hit tables take into account both short and long term effects suffered from Critical Hits, and a simple cure light will not fix it for you.

[Elethiomel]

Also, pray you never encounter the Death from Discworld.
It would be funny to have Rincewind as a DnD boss.

Rincewind is surprisingly easy to make in DnD:
Rincewind, Human Wizard (1)
Str (low)
Dex (high)
con (low)
int 9
wis (medium-high) (he has enough intuition to know when to run)
cha (mediocre)

Thus he has too low int to cast spells. He'll probably have the "dodge" and "dash" feats.

[Yuki Akuma]

Rincewind is surprisingly easy to make in DnD:
Rincewind, Human Wizard (1)
Str (low)
Dex (high)
con (low)
int 9
wis (medium-high) (he has enough intuition to know when to run)
cha (mediocre)

Thus he has too low int to cast spells. He'll probably have the "dodge" and "dash" feats.

Rincewind is actually pretty smart, he just can't cast spells because one of the Eight Spells scared away all the others, and they're still too scared to go back in.

Remember, on Discworld, magic is alive.

Personally, I'd say he's an Expert with Bluff, Concentration, Craft: Woodworking, Knowledge: Arcana, Knowledge: Geography, Knowledge: History, Knowledge: Local, Knowledge: Religion, Speak Language, and Spellcraft as class skills.

I'd also give him the Run and Endurance feats. As well as a slightly above-average Con, he can run for bloody AGES...

[Darasen]

There was a post-nuclear war RPG called Morrow Project wherein you could get limbs cripples or completely blown/shot off.

[Baron]

OOTS ;)

[Lilly]

OOTS ;)

Well we discussed the comic on Monday, and now we don't want to leave the thread alone and by itself, becasue it's scared of the dark.

Well for the next Oots will we back with the heros or will it be another cut scene with the mysterious ninja looking villian?

[RBPRX1204]

Wow, it only took 3 hours to get through every OOTS, while working. BTW
1) graduated high school 1990
2) graduated from college 1995
3) Yo Joe, I watched GI Joe, Transfromers, and Robotech. Watching Robotech now makes me relize how chatty the characters were. Just go blow some crap up!!!

[Dragon_Rider]

Welcome to the club!

So i guess now the gang has three groups of villains coming after them (Linear guild, ninja dudes, and the Xykon gang)? sheesh...

[RBPRX1204]

Yeah, now all we need is a few Kindred, oh, I mean vampires to mess things up! ;D

[evileeyore]

Nah, the "ninja-dudes" are the Good Guys.

They'll just clash with the Stickies and much comedy will ensue.

[pumpkinetics]

Nah, they need some kind of non-giant plant that will defeat them without it being a close call.


Oh and on vampires,[obnoxious character quote]I've killed a vampire! (http://www.livejournal.com/community/shinyshinyelves/38539.html#cutid1)[/obnoxious character quote]

[Duskrider_Moogle]

Well for the next Oots will we back with the heros or will it be another cut scene with the mysterious ninja looking villian?

I wanna see what's going on with that guy.

[mephassovar]

if I bend my will to the computer screen the new OOTS will appear

[Ricky]

Maybe we'll get the strip faster if we pretend we're Lamaze coaches.

Ok, Rich, breathe....whoo, whoo, whoo...now, PUSH!

;D

[Peldor]

<tantrum>If the new strip isn't up by the next time I check, I'm NEVER reading one of Keith's comics again!!!!1</tantrum>





;)

[mephassovar]

I just checked, it's not there - I MUST HAVE IT, NO ONE WILL GET IN MY WAY!
GIVE ME OOTS OR DEATH WILL FOLLOW!
seriously overdosing on Irn Bru over here - OoTS is my only possible source of recovery.

[AtomicKitKat]

What ninja-looking guys? The last time I saw a ninja, he lost his legs to Belkar.

[Old_Man]

Thursday Schedule
1. drink coffee
2. shower
3. 2nd cup of coffee
4. read OotS Not there… Nooooo

[Caelestion]

I have to ask, why do you lot keep referring to Keith? I thought he was the Eberron creator.

Cael.

[Janitor]

Once again, Rich was captured by Pirate-Ninjas.

I hope the new comic is up soon lest I suffer from withdraw.