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Phased Weasel
2008-02-07, 09:21 AM
I know wizards can apply more than one metamagic feat to a spell. I know spontaneous casters increase the casting time when applying a metamagic feat.
My question is: how long does it take for a sorcerer to cast a (normally 1 standard action) spell with two metamagic feats on it? 1 full round or 2?
My thoughts were: the spell is 1 action to cast. Apply a metamagic feat, and it becomes a 1 full round cast. Apply a second, and it adds on another full round.
Nebo_
2008-02-07, 09:29 AM
A spell with metamagic takes a full round action to cast. It doesn't matter how much metamagic is on it.
Phased Weasel
2008-02-07, 09:40 AM
Yeah, that's what I thought, and was hoping. However the interaction between spontaneous, metamagic and some action point uses is pretty strong and I wanted to check.
A Sorcerer who casts Arcane Spellsurge (Dragon Magic), can cast them in a standard action.
Quirinus_Obsidian
2008-02-07, 12:32 PM
Even better; there is a variant where the Sorc would give up their familiar for the ability to cast metamagic spells without increasing the casting time. No feat or extra spells needed. I believe it is in PHBII ; I could be wrong though.
Douglas
2008-02-07, 12:54 PM
Yeah, but that variant has limited uses per day. If you take the Rapid Metamagic feat from Complete Mage (level 9 minimum due to skill ranks prereq) you can do it all day long.
Kantolin
2008-02-07, 01:40 PM
Yeah, but that variant has limited uses per day.
The PHB2 variant does not have limited uses per day - you simply have to give up your familiar.
Edit: Proven incorrect. It does indeed have limited uses per day.
Reinboom
2008-02-07, 01:47 PM
The PHB2 variant does not have limited uses per day - you simply have to give up your familiar.
Yes it does. It's limited to 3 + int modifier.
Look on the 2nd column on page 61, the variant was split up for some silly reason.
Kantolin
2008-02-07, 01:49 PM
Ahh. I stand corrected indeed. Huh, I never noticed that.
Fax Celestis
2008-02-07, 01:54 PM
Yeah, but that variant has limited uses per day. If you take the Rapid Metamagic feat from Complete Mage (level 9 minimum due to skill ranks prereq) you can do it all day long.
Doesn't Rapid Metamagic only apply to one metamagic feat at a time?
Lord Lorac Silvanos
2008-02-07, 01:56 PM
Doesn't Rapid Metamagic only apply to one metamagic feat at a time?
No, there is not any such restriction. :smallsmile:
marjan
2008-02-07, 02:02 PM
Doesn't Rapid Metamagic only apply to one metamagic feat at a time?
Accelerated Metamagic from RoDr has such restriction. You're probably confusing it with this one.
Lord Lorac Silvanos
2008-02-07, 02:10 PM
Accelerated Metamagic from RoDr has such restriction. You're probably confusing it with this one.
The evolution of metamagic options for sorcerers is a good example of power creep/balancing over time.
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