Oh Giant you sly Playa you

[Souju]

I just realized that of all the many characters in the comic, Celia has had more wardrobe alterations (and i mean more than just color scheme alterations...she's always bluuuuue :)) than almost every character in the comic...
Her original outfit, the lawyer outfit, the dress, the "do you think he'll like this?" outfit, the current jammy outfit...and she was nude off panel :)

*singing like a little kid* Giant likes Celia Giant likes Celia
LOL
OK my brush with insane theories is over...for NOW!

[Raider]

Celia is DAMN fine.

Who doesn't love her?

[Raging_Pacifist]

Not to sound skeevy but she is pretty good looking.

[Souju]

Celia is DAMN fine.

Who doesn't love her?

you have a point
wait...
what about the lawyers?

[Zencao]

Isn't giant married? Or am I thinking of another webcomic artist?

EDIT: And guy's remember, stick figures :smalleek:

[Raging_Pacifist]

He was talking about her outfit from when she was the OotS's lawyer in AC.

[JasonDoomsblade]

Isn't giant married? Or am I thinking of another webcomic artist?

EDIT: And guy's remember, stick figures :smalleek:

The Giant is either married or soon to be married. He spoke of his 'significant other' when he was ill. That either means wife or girlfriend.

[Kurald Galain]

Who doesn't love her?

That guy, apparently (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0269.html). The idiot...

[Raging_Pacifist]

Stupid, stupid man.

[JasonDoomsblade]

No body should cheat on their boyfriend/girlfriend. Bad Brad! Bad!:smallannoyed:

[Raging_Pacifist]

That is true.

[Swordlol]

The Giant might just like changing the outfit of characters that we see once every... on average... 40 strips or something...

[Souju]

The Giant might just like changing the outfit of characters that we see once every... on average... 40 strips or something...

How many characters does that cover, though? :)

[Raging_Pacifist]

What about Belkar, V, and Durkon?

[Demented]

Durkon's not changed. But V's been a lizard and nude ON-panel. Belkar's been Chaotic Good (with associated palette change) for about 6 seconds.

[Souju]

Durkon's not changed. But V's been a lizard and nude ON-panel. Belkar's been Chaotic Good (with associated palette change) for about 6 seconds.

still not as many COMBINED as Celia...or Roy for that matter
Durkon's been nude as well :)
unless he has a little hatch in his armor for the "Power of Thor" to come through.

[Surfing HalfOrc]

Although SOMEWHERE I heard that the Giant planned on changing each character's appearance during the course of the strip. So far, Elan has shifted from his Bard outfit to the Dashing Swordsman outfit, and Haley has shifted from brown to black, although I'm not sure if that will be her final outfit.

Most of the rest have had "Art Upgrades," but nothing major. Roy's boots, V's cape, Durkon's holy symbol. I'm not sure if Belkar has ever changed anything at all.

But the OP is right, only Celia changes her outfit every time we see her.

Not sure if it means anything, other than Celia has fashion sense, while the rest are "rough and ready adventurers," who are more interested in practicality over looking good.

[Zarah]

Not sure if it means anything, other than Celia has fashion sense, while the rest are "rough and ready adventurers," who are more interested in practicality over looking good.

Unless, of course, the clothing item in question happens to be lime green boots (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0003.html). :smalltongue:

[hajo]

of all the many characters in the comic, Celia has had more wardrobe alterations .. than almost every character in the comic.

I think Haley got many more :smalltongue:
Do you remember her goth (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0319.html) and at least 8 more multiple personalities (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0381.html), evening dress (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0384.html), and now the black resistence outfit (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0511.html) ?

Including the original dress, that sums up to about 12 different outfits :smallcool:
(Ok, not all of them that much different...)

[The Extinguisher]

Durkon's not changed. But V's been a lizard and nude ON-panel. Belkar's been Chaotic Good (with associated palette change) for about 6 seconds.

So has Elan.

You know, I think by the end of this, every member of the order will be nude on-pannel.

[Raging_Pacifist]

When was V nude on panel?

[The Extinguisher]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0186.html

So who's left. Roy, Haley and Belkar.

Bets on who gets naked first?

[Chronos]

Haley had her little "wardrobe malfunction". She wasn't quite on-panel, but her speech bubble was, and most of the Order was watching her.

[North]

Hell, I like Celia :smallredface:

Haleys really cool too, but Ive always fallen from girls with wings.:smallbiggrin:
aaaaahhhhh *splat*

[Glome]

I think Celia is definitely a CILF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82DjpPX60xU

[Souju]

I think Haley got many more :smalltongue:
Do you remember her goth (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0319.html) and at least 8 more multiple personalities (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0381.html), evening dress (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0384.html), and now the black resistence outfit (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0511.html) ?

Including the original dress, that sums up to about 12 different outfits :smallcool:
(Ok, not all of them that much different...)

the personalities are separate entities, they represent parts of her but they aren't her.

I guess Haley would rival Celia for costume changes IF you count the flashback to her teenage years, but Haley's Self Loathing is an independant character :)

[Shatteredtower]

Unless, of course, the clothing item in question happens to be lime green boots (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0003.html). :smalltongue:I always found that to be one of his better jabs at the rules for cursed items, since being of an unusual colour was considered a valid option for such a curse. Despite the fact that I've yet to meet a player who'd pass up such boots for being lime green, hot pink, or plaid, Haley nevertheless treats the curse like it actually means something.

[bluish_wolf]

When was V nude on panel?

Right after the lizard polymorph was dispelled.

[SPoD]

I think this is really just because unlike most of the other characters in this strip, Celia is a civilian, not an adventurer. She doesn't wear armor, and every time she shows up in the plot, she's coming from someplace she lives (as opposed to being traveling all of the time). Thus, she can keep a full wardrobe instead of wearing the same clothes day in, day out.

I imagine that if Julia reappears in the story, she will also be wearing different clothes, for the same reason. Remember that she never had the opportunity to change clothes after being kidnapped.

Also, I think Sabine has had more appearance changes than anyone else anyway. Schoolgirl, geisha, regular red leather, black dress (in the Paladin Blues bonus comic), CPPD uniform, dwarven blacksmith, santa costume on the Christmas ornament...and half of those had both demon and human variations!

[Raging_Pacifist]

Hmmmm.... I'll agree w/ SPoD

[The Extinguisher]

Haley had her little "wardrobe malfunction". She wasn't quite on-panel, but her speech bubble was, and most of the Order was watching her.

Doesn't count. The body has to be on-screen.

[Green Bean]

I think Celia is definitely a CILF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82DjpPX60xU

So, was the pun accidental, or incredibly clever?

[Souju]

I think this is really just because unlike most of the other characters in this strip, Celia is a civilian, not an adventurer. She doesn't wear armor, and every time she shows up in the plot, she's coming from someplace she lives (as opposed to being traveling all of the time). Thus, she can keep a full wardrobe instead of wearing the same clothes day in, day out.

I imagine that if Julia reappears in the story, she will also be wearing different clothes, for the same reason. Remember that she never had the opportunity to change clothes after being kidnapped.

Also, I think Sabine has had more appearance changes than anyone else anyway. Schoolgirl, geisha, regular red leather, black dress (in the Paladin Blues bonus comic), CPPD uniform, dwarven blacksmith, santa costume on the Christmas ornament...and half of those had both demon and human variations!

i have a hard time considering Sabine's transformations wardrobe changes...since she IS a shapeshifter

[Zarah]

Doesn't count. The body has to be on-screen.

If we count the prequel books, then Haley has been naked on-screen.

In On The Origin of PCs, she strips down to nothing just before her "gratuitous bath scene," and her body is quite clearly on-screen.

[The Extinguisher]

That works.
So we've just got Roy and Belkar then.

I've got 20 bucks on Roy. Any takers?

[Glome]

So, was the pun accidental, or incredibly clever?

It was a just a cool accident.

[Morgan Wick]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0186.html

So who's left. Roy, Haley and Belkar.

Bets on who gets naked first?

When was Durkon naked?

[bluish_wolf]

When was Durkon naked?

Remember his evil opposite? Dwarf on dwarf action?

[Demented]

So has Elan.

You know, I think by the end of this, every member of the order will be nude on-pannel.

Reminds me of a free-form RP I was in...
Actually, that'd make a kick-boop tradition. 'S not likely that adventurers have anything to be ashamed off, after all.

(And Elan has been naked twice. Given his charisma, it's probably a public service.)

[Surfing HalfOrc]

That works.
So we've just got Roy and Belkar then.

I've got 20 bucks on Roy. Any takers?

Well, Roy was naked just a few moments before this scene (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0318.html)...

That just leaves the Belkster, although the Sexy Shoeless God of War was also naked off panel in OtOoPSs...

Yeah... Everybody gets themselves a little "somethin somethin" in this story! :smallbiggrin:

[Chronos]

(And Elan has been naked twice. Given his charisma, it's probably a public service.)The women of Azure City seemed to think so, at least.

[David Argall]

I always found that to be one of his better jabs at the rules for cursed items, since being of an unusual colour was considered a valid option for such a curse. Despite the fact that I've yet to meet a player who'd pass up such boots for being lime green, hot pink, or plaid, Haley nevertheless treats the curse like it actually means something.
He was talking about an article of clothing for women, who can be fussy about such. It's unlikely there was any rules implication, particularly not when it is not pointed out.



I think this is really just because unlike most of the other characters in this strip, Celia is a civilian, not an adventurer. She doesn't wear armor, and every time she shows up in the plot, she's coming from someplace she lives (as opposed to being traveling all of the time).
Celia's civilian status doesn't make a difference here. But we have her changing jobs, in a social setting [where Roy changes outfits too] and now at a time when an unusual outfit has joke potential. In effect she has had several roles here and has had a costume for each.

[Wolfe]

Well, Roy was naked just a few moments before this scene (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0318.html)...

That just leaves the Belkster, although the Sexy Shoeless God of War was also naked off panel in OtOoPSs...

Yeah... Everybody gets themselves a little "somethin somethin" in this story! :smallbiggrin:

Roy walks around campus in underwear for a couple of strips in Origins. Not quite naked, but close.

Where was Belkar naked off panel in Origins? After he found his two-for-one sale?

[SPoD]

Celia's civilian status doesn't make a difference here.

Umm....care to explain why not?

[Wolfie_1066]

That works.
So we've just got Roy and Belkar then.

I've got 20 bucks on Roy. Any takers?

im in :D this will be fun to watch...

[Shatteredtower]

He was talking about an article of clothing for women, who can be fussy about such. It's unlikely there was any rules implication, particularly not when it is not pointed out.David...

...there are rules for such things. DMG, pg. 273, on the table for items cursed with a drawback, a percentage roll of 40:

"Item looks ridiculous (garishly colored, silly shape, glows bright pink...)"

Leave the misogynistic comments about what women are like somewhere else.

[Raging_Pacifist]

David...

...there are rules for such things. DMG, pg. 273, on the table for items cursed with a drawback, a percentage roll of 40:

"Item looks ridiculous (garishly colored, silly shape, glows bright pink...)"

Leave the misogynistic comments about what women are like somewhere else.

It's sad but true, bad color is a curse. My PC once had bright pink full-plate.

[The Extinguisher]

I had a character who owned a bright pink hat once.
I don't even remember why anymore.

Anyway, on panel nudity only people. If we counted off panel nudity, there would be no point, as no one comes out of the womb fully clothed.

Covered up, heavily censored, doesn't matter. It just has to be on-panel.
Remember, nothing actually exists in that world unless we see it, and only when we see it.

[Dwarkanath]

It's sad but true, bad color is a curse. My PC once had bright pink full-plate.Hehe, we had a paladin in a game whose magic armor was pink and granted the ability to teleport.

We called him the "Poofda" paladin. I don't think the player ever forgave us for that...

-- Dave

[Green Bean]

It's sad but true, bad color is a curse. My PC once had bright pink full-plate.

That reminds me of a fighter in one of my games; his awesome (yet cursed) full plate had the side effect of being a clothes x-ray. No matter how many layers he wore underneath, he always went around looking like he was wearing nothing but underwear (the wizard who cursed the armor obviously had some standards).

[Chronos]

That reminds me of a fighter in one of my games; his awesome (yet cursed) full plate had the side effect of being a clothes x-ray. No matter how many layers he wore underneath, he always went around looking like he was wearing nothing but underwear...So that's how chainmail bikinis work.

[xyzchyx]

That reminds me of a fighter in one of my games; his awesome (yet cursed) full plate had the side effect of being a clothes x-ray. No matter how many layers he wore underneath, he always went around looking like he was wearing nothing but underwear (the wizard who cursed the armor obviously had some standards).

How did he get to wear additional layers of clothing underneath it than what he had originally? Cursed armor generally can't be removed.

[Green-Shirt Q]

Hell, I like Celia :smallredface:

Haleys really cool too, but Ive always fallen from girls with wings.:smallbiggrin:
aaaaahhhhh *splat*

I love girls with wings too

Wings give me something to Hang on to! WOOF!

[Icewalker]

I'd just like to throw in that you get Haley in just a towel here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0277.html).

You know, I believe Haley is the only one who has ever shown evidence of hygiene. Other than this shower, in Origins (as mentioned above)
She has a quick bath scene, and Bath Gel +2

[Souju]

How did he get to wear additional layers of clothing underneath it than what he had originally? Cursed armor generally can't be removed.

i think there's different kinds of curses...

[NikkTheTrick]

No body should cheat on their boyfriend/girlfriend. Bad Brad! Bad!:smallannoyed:
100 % agreed here. One should never cheat on boyfriend/girlfriend. I, for instance, never cheated on mine. Never at all... Why is everyone looking at me like that? :smalleek:

[Green Bean]

How did he get to wear additional layers of clothing underneath it than what he had originally? Cursed armor generally can't be removed.

Not necessarily. Not having my books with me, I'm going off the SRD, and there's nothing in there that says you can't remove cursed items (except in the specific items section). Besides, anyone who isn't wearing some clothing underneath platemail is just asking for pain.

[Leewei]

Never say "playa" again. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0019.html)

[Souju]

Never say "playa" again. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0019.html)

PLAYA!
I'm channeling Elan

[Chronos]

You know, I believe Haley is the only one who has ever shown evidence of hygiene. Other than this shower, in Origins (as mentioned above)She also has a big huge bag full of "feminine products" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0029.html).

Although, to be fair, Roy and Belkar at least wash their hands after using the bathroom (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0087.html).

[Raging_Pacifist]

She also has a big huge bag full of "feminine products" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0029.html).

Although, to be fair, Roy and Belkar at least wash their hands after using the bathroom (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0087.html).

Belkar has to get the blood of somehow.

[[Insert Neat Username Here]]

Belkar has to get the blood of somehow.

Wait . . . so Belkar gets blood on his hands when he uses the bathroom?:smalleek:

[Ettlesby]

;3920425']Wait . . . so Belkar gets blood on his hands when he uses the bathroom?:smalleek:

Yours don't?

[Spiky]

Leave the misogynistic comments about what women are like somewhere else.

What, trying to get in good with some chick? David is right, that was the point of that comic. Geez....

[Raging_Pacifist]

;3920425']Wait . . . so Belkar gets blood on his hands when he uses the bathroom?:smalleek:

Huh. ummmm.......wow. I really don't know what to say. I guess he does.

[Ascension]

That reminds me of a fighter in one of my games; his awesome (yet cursed) full plate had the side effect of being a clothes x-ray. No matter how many layers he wore underneath, he always went around looking like he was wearing nothing but underwear (the wizard who cursed the armor obviously had some standards).

Last night our cleric of Heironeous scored some magical full plate... with the symbol of Hextor emblazoned upon it... :smallbiggrin:

[FujinAkari]

What, trying to get in good with some chick? David is right, that was the point of that comic. Geez....

Where, precisely, do you see evidence that V is trying to get in good with Haley? (S)he's married for crying out loud!

[Raging_Pacifist]

Where, precisely, do you see evidence that V is trying to get in good with Haley? (S)he's married for crying out loud!

I agree, other than sharing a room once in a while, it is never implied.

[Shatteredtower]

What, trying to get in good with some chick?No more than you're trying to get in good with Mr. Argall. We'll stick to the arguments, right? :smallwink:


David is right, that was the point of that comic. Geez....Since it's a safe bet that neither you nor he (nor the Giant, for that matter) own a pair of lime green boots, magical or otherwise, other than as part of a Peter Pan costume or the like, calling this a female tendency is a sexist claim. That shoe fits.

Bright pink platemail, Raging_Pacifist? Wow. Reminds me of our junior high school track team's uniform: black shorts with a bright pink t-shirt. (It was supposed to be red, but didn't turn out that way.) Certainly made it easy to find us.

[Green Bean]

;3920425']Wait . . . so Belkar gets blood on his hands when he uses the bathroom?:smalleek:

Well, he certainly isn't going to let go of his knives... :smalltongue:

[Morgan Wick]

I'd just like to throw in that you get Haley in just a towel here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0277.html).
And if you don't count that, you can't count Durkon because we only see him under a blanket.

[brilliantlight]

Durkon's not changed. But V's been a lizard and nude ON-panel. Belkar's been Chaotic Good (with associated palette change) for about 6 seconds.

When did this happen?

[Souju]

When did this happen?

during the wooden forest arc was when V became a lizard, and he/she was nude when the curse was broken on panel, shortly before vaporizing the dragon
when V cast Owl's Wisdom on Belkar shortly after Nale stabbed elan, he got a palette change and began to regret his life choices (thus chaotic good, though one could argue lawful or neutral good as well...the point being he became Good :) for like 2-3 panels)

[cheesecake]

She doesn't even look like a stick figure in the outfit she has on now. It looks like she has nice supple legs, a smooth stomach....oh wait I mean she looks more filled out then just a generic body like most everyone else has.

[Souju]

She doesn't even look like a stick figure in the outfit she has on now. It looks like she has nice supple legs, a smooth stomach....oh wait I mean she looks more filled out then just a generic body like most everyone else has.

and thus, MY THEORY HAS A SUPPORTA!

[Anteros]

No more than you're trying to get in good with Mr. Argall. We'll stick to the arguments, right? :smallwink:

Since it's a safe bet that neither you nor he (nor the Giant, for that matter) own a pair of lime green boots, magical or otherwise, other than as part of a Peter Pan costume or the like, calling this a female tendency is a sexist claim. That shoe fits.

Bright pink platemail, Raging_Pacifist? Wow. Reminds me of our junior high school track team's uniform: black shorts with a bright pink t-shirt. (It was supposed to be red, but didn't turn out that way.) Certainly made it easy to find us.

Ok, that isn't sexist at all. Now if he said "oh, those silly women, they are so concerned about stupid things like clothes...nothing at all like us men."

Fashion commonly (although not always) varies greatly with gender. Thus commenting that a particular concern is more masculine or feminine is not sexist at all.

Even if you want to argue that a particular comment has sexist connotations...calling someone a misogynist is way over the line for a comment like that.

[Shatteredtower]

Ok, that isn't sexist at all. Now if he said "oh, those silly women, they are so concerned about stupid things like clothes...nothing at all like us men."It is when he's making an assumption that is not, in fact, gender-relevant. Haley turned down the boots because they were garishly coloured (and incidentally, according to D&D rules, cursed); we've no evidence that she did it because she's female. To assume the latter when the former is self-evident, far more evident than the gender of the one who acknowledges her point with no trace of irony to be seen, is sexist.


Even if you want to argue that a particular comment has sexist connotations...calling someone a misogynist is way over the line for a comment like that.

Leave the misogynistic comments about what women are like somewhere else.Emphasis mine.

[Castamir]

Ok, that isn't sexist at all. Now if he said "oh, those silly women, they are so concerned about stupid things like clothes...nothing at all like us men."
It's better to precise that... we men are not interested in any nothing. Don't think we're so indiscriminating. We're interesting in nothing where female clothes are expected to be.


If we count the prequel books, then Haley has been naked on-screen.

In On The Origin of PCs, she strips down to nothing just before her "gratuitous bath scene," and her body is quite clearly on-screen.
No, she's only shown without her top, and from the back.

And even worse, during the actual bath scene, the water is somehow opaque :smallfrown: