Belial_the_Leveler
2008-02-12, 07:51 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for yet another epic duel between a mighty paragon of good and law and a great master of evil and chaos.
In the right corner we have perhaps the most well known comic hero, the Man of Steel, the last surviving Kryptonian, the strongest man on Earth.
* He is capable of lifting massive weights of thousands, perhaps millions of tons and throwing punches that can easily rip through several meters of steel or tear down buildings.
* He is capable of defying gravity to the point of not only being able to fly at vast speeds comparable to (though still not reaching) the speed of light but also being able to carry anything he can normally lift or apply his strength to push despite having nowhere to stand on.
* He is immensely resilient to physical damage to the point of his skin resisting heavy artillery shells and his surviving through-although weakened by-a nuclear explosion. He is utterly immune to normal heat and is considerably resistant to all forms of damage except Kryptonite and red sun radiation though supernatural attacks can harm him more easily than physical attacks.
* He is able to move faster than a speeding bullet even without flight, taking mundane actions dozens-perhaps hunderds-of times faster than a common human being though the more complex and uncommon the action the less fast it can be taken.
* He is able to cause tornado-force winds with his breath within a limited area, apply heat-vision to melt down objects the size of large vehicles within seconds and use his breath to freeze similarly sized targets.
* He has greatly enhanced vision and hearing, being able to hear loud calls for help across a large city, see through most materials with x-ray vision and filter through that vast sensory input to pick up specific information.
* He is capable of charging up with solar energy to perform one-time feats of immense strength such as lifting objects of many cubic miles within earth's gravity or pushing around small planetoids that aren't within a strong gravity field.
* His only true weaknesses are Kryptonite and red sun radiation that nullify his powers as well as nondamaging supernatural attacks such as mind-controlling powers.
note: The above description is for the post-crisis/modern era superman that will be used in this vs thread.
In the left corner we have a newcomer in the evil masterminds and dark lords category, the Other Great Magician Zabulon. Of unknown beginnings, living in his own reality's Russia since the 15th century, he's a Great Magician, head of the Day Watch and one of the most powerful individuals in his world.
* He is capable of conjuring blasts of magical energy on par with several megaton nuclear explosives, laying waste to entire cities with one blow.
* He is capable of entering the Twilight, a dimension of shadows largely coexistent with the Material Plane, the time difference enabling him to move several times faster than common men in the normal world and making him unaffected by any attacks from the natural world. Nuclear weapons, artifacts and certain magical energy attacks can still cross into the Twilight and harm him.
* He is immensely resilient to nonphysical attacks to the point that First Class magicians, able to lay waste to small towns or large parts of a metropolis with their magic, can barely harm him.
* He can enhance his strength with magic and his resilience against physical attacks to the point that he can tear through concrete and stone with ease, is immune to mundane attacks and normal weapons though prolonged exposure to high-grade explosives or nuclear weapons could wound and neutralise him.
* He is capable of regenerating from most wounds to the point that mortal agencies, even using nuclear weapons, could only neutralise but not kill him. He can still die from exhausting his energy or magical attacks.
* He has a vast knowledge of magic, being many centuries old, up to and including stopping time for many minutes while still being able to move around and perform physical acts though he has not been shown to be capable of employing further magic while the time is stopped.
* He can open portals for traveling, not only for himself but for others. Distance is ot a factor-he could open portals in space though accuracy requires knowledge of the destination.
* He knows the propability of most events happening, reading propability lines in reality thus being able to predict future events for days and set plans in motion that affect the destiny of people for times to come-though he can still be outwitted if enemies take into account this ability of his and alter their plans, doing things they would not normally do.
* He is capable of charging up with energy, considerably incrasing his powers for a time, by feeding on any unpleasant emotions mortal beings may have, draining their unused life energy through this act. In this way, if he has access to enough people in a dark mood he could recharge his powers very rapidly as long as he doesn't mind killing others by draining their energy or having them commit suicide by draining all emotion away and leading them to despair.
* His only true weakness is running out of energy at which point he could be rendered powerless until he could draw more energy from humans around him. He is practically immortal-other Great Magicians have been known to live unaging for millenia-because while he still has energy reserves, nonmagical attacks cannot kill him.
note: These are the capabilities Zabulon has-or is assumed to have-in the novels. Some of them he has not displayed on-scene but other Magicians weaker than him have dispalyed so it is safe to assume he has them. E.g. if an untrained Great Magician can evoke a several megaton blast, it is safe to assume Zabulon, who is stronger and has several centuries of experience, can also do at least as good. Such abilities are marked with a red asterisk. If Great Magicians in general are said to have such a power, then the ability is marked with a standard black.
So, in the following scenarios, who would win:
Zabulon comes to Superman's reality. Superman can call on allies for information and mundane assistance but not for actually fighting Zabulon for him or giving him high power weapons or magical weapons and protections-assume Superman's allies are tied in fights of their own and need their strength and serious resources for their fights.
Superman comes to Zabulon's reality. Zabulon can call on allies for information and mundane assistance but not for actually fighting Superman for him, aiding him by giving more energy or magical protections or providing high power weapons, magical weapons or protections-assume the cold war style situation prevents Zabulon from mobilising an army without causing a supernatural war.
In the right corner we have perhaps the most well known comic hero, the Man of Steel, the last surviving Kryptonian, the strongest man on Earth.
* He is capable of lifting massive weights of thousands, perhaps millions of tons and throwing punches that can easily rip through several meters of steel or tear down buildings.
* He is capable of defying gravity to the point of not only being able to fly at vast speeds comparable to (though still not reaching) the speed of light but also being able to carry anything he can normally lift or apply his strength to push despite having nowhere to stand on.
* He is immensely resilient to physical damage to the point of his skin resisting heavy artillery shells and his surviving through-although weakened by-a nuclear explosion. He is utterly immune to normal heat and is considerably resistant to all forms of damage except Kryptonite and red sun radiation though supernatural attacks can harm him more easily than physical attacks.
* He is able to move faster than a speeding bullet even without flight, taking mundane actions dozens-perhaps hunderds-of times faster than a common human being though the more complex and uncommon the action the less fast it can be taken.
* He is able to cause tornado-force winds with his breath within a limited area, apply heat-vision to melt down objects the size of large vehicles within seconds and use his breath to freeze similarly sized targets.
* He has greatly enhanced vision and hearing, being able to hear loud calls for help across a large city, see through most materials with x-ray vision and filter through that vast sensory input to pick up specific information.
* He is capable of charging up with solar energy to perform one-time feats of immense strength such as lifting objects of many cubic miles within earth's gravity or pushing around small planetoids that aren't within a strong gravity field.
* His only true weaknesses are Kryptonite and red sun radiation that nullify his powers as well as nondamaging supernatural attacks such as mind-controlling powers.
note: The above description is for the post-crisis/modern era superman that will be used in this vs thread.
In the left corner we have a newcomer in the evil masterminds and dark lords category, the Other Great Magician Zabulon. Of unknown beginnings, living in his own reality's Russia since the 15th century, he's a Great Magician, head of the Day Watch and one of the most powerful individuals in his world.
* He is capable of conjuring blasts of magical energy on par with several megaton nuclear explosives, laying waste to entire cities with one blow.
* He is capable of entering the Twilight, a dimension of shadows largely coexistent with the Material Plane, the time difference enabling him to move several times faster than common men in the normal world and making him unaffected by any attacks from the natural world. Nuclear weapons, artifacts and certain magical energy attacks can still cross into the Twilight and harm him.
* He is immensely resilient to nonphysical attacks to the point that First Class magicians, able to lay waste to small towns or large parts of a metropolis with their magic, can barely harm him.
* He can enhance his strength with magic and his resilience against physical attacks to the point that he can tear through concrete and stone with ease, is immune to mundane attacks and normal weapons though prolonged exposure to high-grade explosives or nuclear weapons could wound and neutralise him.
* He is capable of regenerating from most wounds to the point that mortal agencies, even using nuclear weapons, could only neutralise but not kill him. He can still die from exhausting his energy or magical attacks.
* He has a vast knowledge of magic, being many centuries old, up to and including stopping time for many minutes while still being able to move around and perform physical acts though he has not been shown to be capable of employing further magic while the time is stopped.
* He can open portals for traveling, not only for himself but for others. Distance is ot a factor-he could open portals in space though accuracy requires knowledge of the destination.
* He knows the propability of most events happening, reading propability lines in reality thus being able to predict future events for days and set plans in motion that affect the destiny of people for times to come-though he can still be outwitted if enemies take into account this ability of his and alter their plans, doing things they would not normally do.
* He is capable of charging up with energy, considerably incrasing his powers for a time, by feeding on any unpleasant emotions mortal beings may have, draining their unused life energy through this act. In this way, if he has access to enough people in a dark mood he could recharge his powers very rapidly as long as he doesn't mind killing others by draining their energy or having them commit suicide by draining all emotion away and leading them to despair.
* His only true weakness is running out of energy at which point he could be rendered powerless until he could draw more energy from humans around him. He is practically immortal-other Great Magicians have been known to live unaging for millenia-because while he still has energy reserves, nonmagical attacks cannot kill him.
note: These are the capabilities Zabulon has-or is assumed to have-in the novels. Some of them he has not displayed on-scene but other Magicians weaker than him have dispalyed so it is safe to assume he has them. E.g. if an untrained Great Magician can evoke a several megaton blast, it is safe to assume Zabulon, who is stronger and has several centuries of experience, can also do at least as good. Such abilities are marked with a red asterisk. If Great Magicians in general are said to have such a power, then the ability is marked with a standard black.
So, in the following scenarios, who would win:
Zabulon comes to Superman's reality. Superman can call on allies for information and mundane assistance but not for actually fighting Zabulon for him or giving him high power weapons or magical weapons and protections-assume Superman's allies are tied in fights of their own and need their strength and serious resources for their fights.
Superman comes to Zabulon's reality. Zabulon can call on allies for information and mundane assistance but not for actually fighting Superman for him, aiding him by giving more energy or magical protections or providing high power weapons, magical weapons or protections-assume the cold war style situation prevents Zabulon from mobilising an army without causing a supernatural war.