In Panel Kills [Archive] - Giant in the Playground Forums

Baras

2008-02-23, 05:22 AM

In the vein of Level and Class Geekery and the total number of appearances, I have compiled a list of the total in-panel kills for each character. To qualify for a kill, I have decided that you need to see the character committing the act (not just see the dead body) and the recipient must be dead (xs in eyes or disintegrated etc) discussing of kills or implicit kills do not count.

Please someone let me know if this has been done before (I could not see it anywhere

The results are somewhat surprising...

:belkar: Belkar 69
'Uber V' 59
:haley: Haley 49
:vaarsuvius: Vaarsuvius 28
:roy: Roy Greenhilt 22
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i294/trytoguess/PimpedXykon.png Xykon 21+19+3
Giant Wall Guards' 20
:redcloak: Redcloak 16+14
:durkon: Durkon 15+4
:xykon: Death Knight 11
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i294/trytoguess/kazumi.png Kazumi Kato 8
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/pal153/snarlsmiley.jpg Snarl 8 (But they were mostly gods)
Titanium Elemental 8
:miko: Miko 7
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb218/Zafuel/Argent_R.png Argent 5
:elan: Elan 4
:thog: Thog 4
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i294/trytoguess/lien.png Lien 3
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a311/estelindis/hinjo.gif Lord Hinjo 3
:nale: Nale 3
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/redxiv/therkla.gif Therkla 3
Cleric of Loki 2
Chlorine Elemental 2
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i294/trytoguess/daigo.png Daigo 2
Qaar's Demon 2
Thanh 2
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i294/trytoguess/Tsukiko.png Tsukiko 2
Captain Axe 1
:xykon: Hecuva 1
Horace Greenhilt 1
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2039/pizzaqr9.png (http://imageshack.us/) Pizza 1
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8485/popcornru9.gif Popcorn 1
:sabine: Sabine 1
Shark - Acid Dwelling 1
Kubota 1
Ochul 1

Characters with Kills only in Bonus Materials
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7870/lirianjo8.gif Lirian 6
Lirian's Treent 5
Bearer of the Crimson Mantle 4
Mounted Black-Haired Strike Force Member 3
Silver Dragon 3
Bald Strike Force Member 2
Redcloak's Big Brother 2
Redcloak's Uncle 2
Right-Eye 2
Strike Force Member Who Looks Remarkably Like a Young Miko but Can't be Because the Timing is Wrong 2
V Necked Short Haired Strike Force Member 2
Bald Adventurer 1
Bald Strike Force Member with goatee 1
Barky 1
Demon Roaches 1
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u93/Reed_Copperstrand/Girard_new.pngGirard 1
Halfling Adventurer Mage 1
Shelby the Dragonslayer 1
Short Haired Female strike force member 1
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/1264/kraagorhc8.gif Kraagor 1

This is up to date as of #685. Now updated For Start of Darkness, On the Origin of PCs and all the bonus materials up to War and XPs - Kills from bonus materials are marked in Blue Kills fromthe bonus strips in the books are marken in greennot 1 Kill from OOPC - who would have thunk it!

Pronounceable

2008-02-23, 06:13 AM

Wohoo! Go BELKAR!

I don't remember Julia killing anything. And Thog is just 3? Maybe it's time for a reread...

Kedami

2008-02-23, 06:34 AM

I don't remember Julia killing anything.

I think it was a Giant Centipede (sp?) or whatever it was.

I'm not at all surprised by Belkar at the top, especially after that issue that had the phrase "I am a sexy, shoeless god of war!" I'd have expected more kills from Xykon and Roy though.

Baras

2008-02-23, 06:37 AM

Julia got a Summoned Centipede in Cliffport

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0354.html

Thog on the other hand, while I am sure has many other kills, as far as I could tell has only visibly killed the earth sylph and a couple of Cliffport guards. There are others he most likely killed - but going down that path leads to rampant speculation and we don't want that now do we...

I'd have expected more kills from Xykon and Roy though

We don't actually see Roy or Xykon kill much - as it is,I gave Roy credit for the doom knight as he DID chop off the zombie dragon's head. Xykon got credit for the zombie dragon kill though. But this is mostly due to the big headcounts occurring for the battle for Azure city, where Roy and Xykon were on the sidelines (I didn't give Xykon credit for the killing of the Sapphire guard, as they killed each other) but Redcloak gets some for turning the Ghosts - you've got to draw the line somewhere...

factotum

2008-02-23, 07:21 AM

Julia got a Summoned Centipede in Cliffport

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0354.html

Technically, we didn't actually see her kill any centipedes. We saw a centipede pop into existence in front of her, and she then did the old Centipedes game thing with some magic missiles...we do not know for sure that she successfully killed any of them!

Baras

2008-02-23, 07:48 AM

Hmm... Good point - I will remove her kill

T-O-E

2008-02-23, 09:02 AM

Regneva

2008-02-23, 09:11 AM

I am still waiting on them to arrive (I am only as far as you can get from North America and remain on the planet)

This is a bit off-topic but where do you live? And how much shipping did you pay?

Baras

2008-02-23, 10:21 AM

This is a bit off-topic but where do you live? And how much shipping did you pay?

Australia and $13.50

Actually the shipping was not too bad considering - it is quite often up to 3x that from the US

Baras

2008-02-23, 10:23 AM

It's not really death, more "destruction of souls" type of thing. If you ignore that, then the Snarl has killed 9. The original seven of the greek pantheon plus Kraagor (sp) and Soon's wife.

EDIT: Kraagor's death might have been off-panel.

Thats what I had 7 Gods and Soon's wife - and yes, I know that she was not a god - I will edit the comment...

BisectedBrioche

2008-02-23, 10:32 AM

Should destroying undead actually count as a "kill"? :smallamused: </pedantic>

Raging_Pacifist

2008-02-23, 10:54 AM

Should destroying undead actually count as a "kill"? :smallamused: </pedantic>

Do you gain XP from it?

Fitzclowningham

2008-02-23, 11:17 AM

Are you counting the Eye of Fear and Flame's kills to Belkar? Just curious.

Lira

2008-02-23, 12:14 PM

Doom Knight 11Doom Knight? Don't you mean Death Knight (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0431.html)?

Baras

2008-02-23, 12:49 PM

Are you counting the Eye of Fear and Flame's kills to Belkar? Just curious.

Yeah, I figure that they are really Belkars kills - 'Its an item you can activate with intimidate'

and yes, it should be Death Knight - My bad.

Zordrath

2008-02-23, 02:20 PM

Wow, our favorite villain seems almost like a pacifist when you look at that list :P He gets some more in SoD, but even then he's still nowhere close to Belkar or Haley (the latter really surprised me, I'll admit).

However, Xykon performed a TON of implicit kills in that throne room.

OmegaDonut

2008-02-23, 02:34 PM

Who did Sabine kill besides the slack-jawed enforcer of an arbitrary civilization?

Baras

2008-02-24, 03:38 AM

Who did Sabine kill besides the slack-jawed enforcer of an arbitrary civilization?

Nice description - I would have to find them all again - Stupid me did not note which strip the kills were taken from - suffice it to say they were all human/demi-human

FujinAkari

2008-02-24, 03:47 AM

Did you could YakYak's death to Belkar? Out of curiosity...

Baras

2008-02-24, 04:51 AM

Did you could YakYak's death to Belkar? Out of curiosity...

Nope,he was killed by a horde of tavern dwelling adventurers - anyway Belkar has more than enough on his own...

EDIT: I just found two more Xykon Kills in the battle with the Sapphire Guard - He did SOME of the work himself...

EDIT AGAIN: Ok folks, the Sabine question had been bugging me - I couldn't remember where she got the kills from, so I have gone back and done it properly this time. Revised counts now cross referenced for your convenience are up - Belkar loses lots of kills because I ignored my own rules in the Sexy Shoeless god of war comic.

Baras

2008-03-02, 06:42 AM

Comic #534
No Kills... Makes it easy to maintain the counts

Sstoopidtallkid

2008-03-02, 07:11 AM

People who Miko has more kills than:
CE barbarian who goes on rampages in not placated with ice cream
LE Evil Genius who wants to rule the world
Mystic Theurge necromancer who is an enforcer in an evil city
Humanoid skeleton who lives to slaughter the living
Succubus who performs sacrifices to maintain her relationship

Why did it take her so long to fall again?:smallconfused:

Zencao

2008-03-02, 07:54 AM

Kish

2008-03-02, 09:11 AM

Yes. Most adventurers--good adventurers--have really high kill counts, and it's a very unusual D&D campaign if most of those kills negatively impact the adventurer's alignment. Paladins are not prevented, or even discouraged, from killing swiftly and often; most of their class features (bear in mind, proficiency with martial weapons counts as a class feature) are designed around it. Look at the people she has fewer kills than; why aren't you wondering how Haley and Roy are still good-aligned?

Phase

2008-03-02, 09:48 AM

It also has a lot to do with who you kill. If you kill the benevolent ruler of the city, you fall. If you kill a bunch of nameless Goblins (though if you read Start of Darkness you'd probably think that's worse) it's not going to make much difference.

Uncle Festy

2008-03-02, 11:42 AM

but even then he's still nowhere close to Belkar or Haley (the latter really surprised me, I'll admit).

Most of Haley's kills are probably from comic 470, where she gets 13 kills, and more if you count the goblins killed by the falling tower.

Sstoopidtallkid

2008-03-02, 11:57 AM

Question:There are 24 goblins killed by Haley(if we count EOF&F we should count the tower). Belkar says 22, though. Which number is used?

Baras

2008-03-03, 01:41 AM

OOTS #535
No Kills

Question:There are 24 goblins killed by Haley(if we count EOF&F we should count the tower). Belkar says 22, though. Which number is used?

Hmm.. No, I counted and she only killed 22 and, yes hitting someone with a tower counts - the Kills are as follows...
Panel 4 -1 Kill
Panel 5 - 3 Kills
Panel 7 - 1 Kill
Panel 9 - 3 Kills
Panel 11 - 1 Kill
Panel 12 - 3 Kills
Panel 13 - 2 Kills
Panel 19 - Crunch - 10 Kills
Panel 21 - 1 Kill

Oohh... Lookit that! 25 Kills - more for Haley!

Belkar should really learn how to count.

kpenguin

2008-03-03, 01:48 AM

Are you counting Master Fyron as a kill for Xykon?

FoE

2008-03-03, 01:51 AM

In fairness, we're just counting in-panel kills. We know that Elan and Nale have killed dozens of people in Cliffport, and Xykon and Redcloak murdered dozens of good-aligned (and some evil-aligned) creatures in Start of Darkness.

Baras

2008-03-03, 11:37 AM

Are you counting Master Fyron as a kill for Xykon?

If that's Eugene's old Master killed in issue#78, then yup, that's one of Xykons.
I didn't realise he had a name - must be in one of the books (come ON international post!)

BURNhollywoodBURN

2008-03-03, 08:17 PM

kpenguin

2008-03-03, 08:22 PM

If that's Eugene's old Master killed in issue#78, then yup, that's one of Xykons.
I didn't realise he had a name - must be in one of the books (come ON international post!)

Well, technically that panel didn't depict Xykon killing Fyron, but animating his body. The actual kill appears in Start of Darkness... so I guess its off-panel.

Baras

2008-03-04, 08:47 AM

Well, technically that panel didn't depict Xykon killing Fyron, but animating his body. The actual kill appears in Start of Darkness... so I guess its off-panel.

No, 78 shows him casting a spell that causes his eyes to go all Xy - that one is a kill in my book.

btw Origins and Start of darkness arrived today - more OOTSy goodness to play with ::does a little happy dance:: Will read through both first before adding their tallies to the kills.

EDIT: Well waddayaknow - it was an animate dead spell after all - meh, I'm going to leave it in if you hadn't read SoD it would look like a kill

TheRiov

2008-03-04, 01:34 PM

Surely Xykon gets credit for the various paladins who kill each other as a result of the symbol of insanity. I think you're missing a lot of his kills though.

3 here:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0037.html

I'm guessing you're not counting here:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0095.html

1 here:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0193.html
2 here:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0259.html
1 here
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0370.html

I assume you're NOT counting this one:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0429.html

1 here
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0443.html

4 here
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0446.html

3 here even without counting the Symbol of Insanity
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0448.html

4 here
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0459.html

SOD is obviously lots more but I get 19 for just the webcomic

edit: +21 for SOD

Deathtouched

2008-03-04, 02:49 PM

Baras

2008-03-05, 03:07 AM

Surely Xykon gets credit for the various paladins who kill each other as a result of the symbol of insanity. I think you're missing a lot of his kills though.

3 here:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0037.html
Got 'em

I'm guessing you're not counting here:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0095.html
Nope

1 here:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0193.html
2 here:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0259.html
1 here
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0370.html
yup, yup and yup

I assume you're NOT counting this one:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0429.html
nope

1 here
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0443.html
plus one in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0442.html

4 here
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0446.html

3 here even without counting the Symbol of Insanity
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0448.html

4 here
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0459.html
You are right - I missed these ones, thanks (I think I had them in my original count, then re-counted)

SOD is obviously lots more but I get 19 for just the webcomic

edit: +21 for SOD

Thanks - there are a lot of comics, and this is mostly done in the early hours of the morning when I am only half awake!

Baras

2008-03-05, 03:10 AM

Cool thread

I was going to say something actually useful but I forgot it. Something about... Thog, maybe? Or was it....

I know! The Titanium Elemental! If you counted that, why didn't you count the chlorine elemental? And werent there also multiple TEs? Did you count 1 or all together?

Yeah, the Ti elementals - I ma thinking that these kills should be technically Redcloaks as he summoned them - I did give him the Cl Elementals kills as he had directly summoned it when it rampaged inconsistent I know - opinions? Should summoned creatures count as their own kills or their casters?

Angafirith

2008-03-05, 03:18 AM

You have three kills listed for Miko in bonus materials. I do not seem to recall her being in any such materials, though. Where exactly does she show up?

Baras

2008-03-05, 03:29 AM

You have three kills listed for Miko in bonus materials. I do not seem to recall her being in any such materials, though. Where exactly does she show up?

A very young Miko is praying and slaughtering goblins on p12 - but the other kill on p15 is actually another strike force member - So I was kinda right

EDIT

Comic #536
No Kills (a small part of my misspent youth died, but it was off panel)

MyrddinDerwydd

2008-03-05, 04:04 AM

Pizza 1
Popcorn 1
Roy's Archon 1

I must have missed something...popcorn? pizza? When did we see Roy's Archon do anything other than be facetiously obfuscating?:smallconfused:

Eran of Arcadia

2008-03-05, 08:30 AM

I must have missed something...popcorn? pizza? When did we see Roy's Archon do anything other than be facetiously obfuscating?:smallconfused:

The pizza and popcorn were from that one strip where the movie refreshments had a war; Roy's Archon, probably the Evil Adventuring Party.

Chronos

2008-03-05, 08:10 PM

Re the spoiler, that wasn't Miko. She's too young to have appeared in that scene: She's 28 years old (same as Roy), and that scene was 34 years ago. It might have been a relative of hers, though.

Baras

2008-03-06, 05:47 AM

I must have missed something...popcorn? pizza? When did we see Roy's Archon do anything other than be facetiously obfuscating?:smallconfused:

Pizza and Popcorn
A Brief Intermission (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0301.html)

Roy's ArchonThe Grand Fighter (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0497.html)

Baras

2008-03-06, 06:04 AM

Re the spoiler, that wasn't Miko. She's too young to have appeared in that scene: She's 28 years old (same as Roy), and that scene was 34 years ago. It might have been a relative of hers, though.

Hmm... I take your point, however we have someone that looks like a young Miko and acts like Miko, just has a bit of a continuity problem - I'll keep it at Miko for the time being, rather than crediting the kill to 'Paladin Who Looks and Acts Like Miko but Can't Be Due to Timing' :smallwink: and put the fact it is too long ago down to the fact she may have been turned to stone for 20 or so years

Wyvern_55

2008-03-06, 06:41 AM

Hmm... I take your point, however we have someone that looks like a young Miko and acts like Miko, just has a bit of a continuity problem - I'll keep it at Miko for the time being, rather than crediting the kill to 'Paladin Who Looks and Acts Like Miko but Can't Be Due to Timing' :smallwink: and put the fact it is too long ago down to the fact she may have been turned to stone for 20 or so years

But...That guy's a male paladin! albeit with long hair but that is the male template used. I'm pretty sure that it not Miko.

hnokki

2008-03-06, 07:01 AM

Yeah, the Ti elementals - I ma thinking that these kills should be technically Redcloaks as he summoned them - I did give him the Cl Elementals kills as he had directly summoned it when it rampaged inconsistent I know - opinions? Should summoned creatures count as their own kills or their casters?

If you're giving Redcloak the elemental kills, then you should definitely give Xykon credit for his insanity ball kills.

Baras

2008-03-08, 02:54 AM

Comic #537
No Kills, although I should give Ceila one for Putting X's on Haley's eyes - priceless!

Baras

2008-03-08, 02:58 AM

But...That guy's a male paladin! albeit with long hair but that is the male template used. I'm pretty sure that it not Miko.

Nah, I took it to be a pre-pubecent Miko. All your reasonable arguements make no difference, Its Miko and I am sticking to it!:smalltongue: Actually, I am only 50% confident it is Miko, it just fits so well, that it SHOULD be Miko that I am going to keep it there for now.

If you're giving Redcloak the elemental kills, then you should definitely give Xykon credit for his insanity ball kills.

All right, Redcloak's Elemental Kills go the the Elemental itself then...

hnokki

2008-03-08, 02:13 PM

All right, Redcloak's Elemental Kills go the the Elemental itself then...

:smallfrown: Aww... I was hoping you would give Xykon his paladin kills instead. It was just so totally awesome! He DESERVES to get those kills!

But then again, it's your list, so I guess you get to make the rules. :smallsmile:

Baras

2008-03-09, 05:53 AM

Comic #538
One Kill to Belkar!!! 1st Kill for 27 Comics

:smallfrown: Aww... I was hoping you would give Xykon his paladin kills instead. It was just so totally awesome! He DESERVES to get those kills!

But then again, it's your list, so I guess you get to make the rules. :smallsmile:

Yeah, I wanted to as well, however giving those kills to Xykon opens up too much debate as to who should get the kill. And on these forums, there will be too much debate over things without giving people actual reasons to argue! :smallbiggrin:

Irbis

2008-03-09, 07:05 AM

Roy's Archon The Grand Fighter (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0497.html)

But it is Roy's kill, actually.

Baras

2008-03-09, 08:31 AM

But it is Roy's kill, actually.

Ooh, it is actually neither - it is unclear who made the kill - you are right - I will remove it altogether

Arteyu

2008-03-09, 09:53 AM

+1 to Belkar

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0538.html

Chronos

2008-03-09, 04:07 PM

By the way, something weird has happened to the title of this thread. You might want to see if you can edit it back.

Deathwisher

2008-03-12, 10:10 AM

Nah, I took it to be a pre-pubecent Miko. All your reasonable arguements make no difference, Its Miko and I am sticking to it!:smalltongue: Actually, I am only 50% confident it is Miko, it just fits so well, that it SHOULD be Miko that I am going to keep it there for now.

All right, Redcloak's Elemental Kills go the the Elemental itself then...

Maybe Miko experimented with the 'change gender belt' when she was young?

Baras

2008-03-12, 11:57 AM

Maybe Miko experimented with the 'change gender belt' when she was young?

Hah, Occam's razor still says it is a young Miko - looking boyish.

archon_huskie

2008-03-12, 03:20 PM

Occam's razor would say it is not Miko because that has the least assumptions.

Chronos

2008-03-12, 07:18 PM

Occam's razor would say it is not Miko because that has the least assumptions.Right, for it to be Miko we have to assume that, a, she got caught in some sort of time-warp to be fighting in a battle ten years before she was born, and b, that despite her definitely feminine form in the "present time", she looked like a guy when she was younger.

For it to not be Miko, we have to assume that it's a comic strip using a limited art style which provides few options for distinguishing between characters, especially characters of the same ethnicity.

If you insist on seeing a connection, though, it's not unreasonable to suppose that that might be Eko Miyazaki. There's still no evidence, and we don't even know if Eko is supposed to be male or female, but it's at least possible.

NENAD

2008-03-12, 07:46 PM

Or we could assume that it was a continuity slip. That fits Occam's Razor just as well. Ergo, it's a toss-up (though if it is a continuity slip, the reason Miko was around before then would have to defy Occam's Razor, so this logic only applies if thinking about it from a meta-viewers' perspective).

Demented

2008-03-12, 10:46 PM

Occam's razor: Don't invent new assumptions when the current one works perfectly well.

Assuming it is Miko doesn't work well for all the above reasons.
Assuming it's some random dude works very well for all the above reasons.

Occam's razor is annoying that way. =P

Spiky

2008-03-13, 12:59 AM

But it is Roy's kill, actually.
No.

Ooh, it is actually neither - it is unclear who made the kill - you are right - I will remove it altogether

Seems pretty nitpicky when both the shot of light and Xed eyes are shown in the same comic. The only other 2 "good" side folks both used the same ancestral weapon, which would have left marks. There are no marks.

Question:
Did Trigak count as one or three?

Baras

2008-03-13, 05:28 AM

No.

Seems pretty nitpicky when both the shot of light and Xed eyes are shown in the same comic. The only other 2 "good" side folks both used the same ancestral weapon, which would have left marks. There are no marks.

Well, I had initially given it to the archon for the reasons you describe, but it is not clear, and so it is better to remove it than keep on with the debate

Question:
Did Trigak count as one or three?

Just the one...

FujinAkari

2008-03-13, 10:22 AM

I gotta throw my hat in with the "Its not Miko!" crowd.

1) As has been pointed out, the timing is COMPLETELY off.

2) They don't even look that similar... its a girl with black hair. It could MORE easily be the girl from panel 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0448.html) than Miko.

Arteyu

2008-03-14, 04:26 AM

Another +1 for the Belkster. Poor Gnome...now we'll never know his name. :P

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0539.html

Baras

2008-03-14, 04:34 AM

Comic # 539
One more for Belkar - Doesn't anybody else kill people in this comic?

I gotta throw my hat in with the "Its not Miko!" crowd.

1) As has been pointed out, the timing is COMPLETELY off.

2) They don't even look that similar... its a girl with black hair. It could MORE easily be the girl from panel 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0448.html) than Miko.

Ok, OK, I give in! Yes, the evidence does point to it being less likely to being Miko than I originally thought - I STILL want it to be Miko though - it adds that extra something to the scene....

Question... why is it that if it is argued about, it involves Miko? I have a theory that if I had credited those kills to Lien no-one would have batted an eyelid...

Baras

2008-04-14, 09:56 PM

Bah, I go away for a few weeks and nobody gets killed (execpt a hobby and that was to an un-named shark) Ah well...

Chronos

2008-04-14, 10:08 PM

Over in Number of Character Appearances, we're crediting that one to O-Chul and the shark jointly. O-Chul certainly caused the hob to get killed, and even if the shark weren't there, knocking him into the acid would have killed him anyway (since he's not a major goodass like O-Chul himself, of course).

Baras

2008-08-24, 09:59 PM

Hmmm... **rubs eyes** What's that! did someone kill someone???

Hey way to go Kasumi she just overtook Miko and equalls the snarl in kills - Lesson here - Don't piss off the pregnant lady...

MyrddinDerwydd

2008-08-24, 11:43 PM

Hmmm... **rubs eyes** What's that! did someone kill someone???

Hey way to go Kasumi she just overtook Miko and equalls the snarl in kills - Lesson here - Don't piss off the pregnant lady...

Woo! And I'll bet she's not done yet!

Chronos

2008-08-24, 11:54 PM

Baras

2008-08-25, 09:49 PM

The pit fiend killed a couple of NPCs in the previous strip. And it looks like you skipped right over Belkar killing the Oracle.

And I only count six kills for Kazumi: Three in the strip where she told her name, one sea troll, and two in this strip. What am I missing?

ETA: There's also an on-panel kill in the first panel of 574 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0574.html).

Hmm... See, this is what come of only editing this at work - I will have a look back at home when I have some more time (and access to my spreadsheet)and double check the last few strips....

T-O-E

2008-08-26, 09:53 AM

Haley's killed thirty-seven people (in-panel)? Weird.

Ron Miel

2008-08-26, 01:05 PM

. And I only count six kills for Kazumi: Three in the strip where she told her name, one sea troll, and two in this strip. What am I missing?

A few things.
She kills THREE in the most recent strip, not two.
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0587.html

A small picture, but it seems there's at least one more in-panel kill for her here http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0478.html

I'm not sure if this is her. All Azurite female soldiers look alike.
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0433.html

I'm not sure if the sea troll should count, though. It was killed and set on fire off-panel.

Chronos

2008-08-26, 02:46 PM

By the last panel, she's killed at least three. But only two of those were on-panel.

I missed the one where she's repelling boarders, but we can't be sure that the soldier on the walls was her. And she has her sword in the troll, which is good enough for me, but that's for Baras to decide.

Admiral_Kelly

2008-08-26, 03:13 PM

There is a site (http://www.moviebodycounts.com/) which has a system for counting kills in movies which could be used here. They have a set of guidleines (http://moviebodycounts.proboards80.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=6) which work like so:
- Can you see a dead body plainly? count it
- Can you see a mortal hit? count it
- Did someone die on screen? count it
- Was a scene shown and then at the last second "cut away?" count itThe second link has more details, and I do not agree with everything they list, but it is a pretty fair system.

Estelindis

2008-08-26, 07:32 PM

Hehe... Hinjo's dog has more kills than him... :smallbiggrin:

Ron Miel

2008-08-26, 09:51 PM

By the last panel, she's killed at least three. But only two of those were on-panel.

good point.

Miko's bodycount is 8, including herself.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0189.html (2)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0215.html (1)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0407.html (1)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0461.html (3)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0464.html (1)

Tsukiko has killed at least 3

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0446.html (a bit small, but the guy on the right in the second last panel seems to have the Xs)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0458.html (2 more)

chiasaur11

2008-08-26, 10:02 PM

good point.

Miko's bodycount is 8, including herself.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0189.html (2)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0215.html (1)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0407.html (1)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0461.html (3)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0464.html (1)

Tsukiko has killed at least 3

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0446.html (a bit small, but the guy on the right in the second last panel seems to have the Xs)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0458.html (2 more)

Counting yourself is cheating.

Ron Miel

2008-08-26, 10:13 PM

Counting yourself is cheating.

Why wouldn't we include it?

Linkavitch

2008-08-27, 01:10 PM

Not really surprised Belkar got the most, though I thought Roy would get more then Haley...

AlexanderRM

2008-08-27, 01:18 PM

[/IMG] Snarl 8 (But they were mostly gods)

*snarl destroys the entire world*
"That still only counts as one!"

This is up to date as of #587, And now updated For Start of Darkness and On the Origin of PCs - Kills from bonus materials are marked in Blue not 1 Kill from OOPC - who would have thunk it!
Poor Belkar. If he had only just stabbed that guard, then it could have been shown on-panel. :smallfrown:

Baras

2008-09-16, 01:24 PM

Comic #592
Ooh more Killing...Such a change from all this dialogue and plot...

I have provisionally given a kill for the Demon to V But we will hav to wait and see if per (gender neutral pronoun) has really killed it

snoopy13a

2008-09-16, 01:33 PM

Haley's killed thirty-seven people (in-panel)? Weird.

Well, there is this strip:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0470.html

Jorrath_Zek

2008-09-17, 10:53 AM

The results are somewhat surprising...

What was surprising about it?

LastoftheSummer

2008-09-17, 11:51 AM

there should also be a count for how many named characters a person has killed, there is a big difference between killing a dozen unnamed goblins and killing Lord Shojo

dps

2008-09-17, 09:00 PM

The un-named (if he had a name, I missed it) archer guy that was let out of prison to fight for Azure City & who later tried to assassinate Hinjo had 3 in-panel kills in #433, panel 2.

Fawkes

2008-09-17, 09:15 PM

Well, there is this strip:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0470.html

Hell, that's 22 right there.

MReav

2008-09-17, 09:17 PM

In the bonus material in No Cure for the Paladin Blues,

did Shelby count? The Dragon doesn't X out the eyes until Shelby is in panel, the axe firmly lodged in the dragon's neck. But he threw the axe...

Also, the dragon kills 3 hobgoblins. And then Xykon kills two more hobgoblins failing to overcome the Dragon's Spell Resistance with an area effect spell (Meteor Swarm). Then he kills Shelby.

Also for On the Origins of PCs

Not only Belkar, but V too. Blasted a Kobold, but didn't X out on panel

Baras

2008-09-18, 11:49 AM

In the bonus material in No Cure for the Paladin Blues,

did Shelby count? The Dragon doesn't X out the eyes until Shelby is in panel, the axe firmly lodged in the dragon's neck.

Also, the dragon kills 3 hobgoblins. And then Xykon kills two more hobgoblins failing to overcome the Dragon's Spell Resistance with an area effect spell (Meteor Swarm). Then he kills Shelby.

Also for On the Origins of PCs

Not only Belkar, but V too. Blasted a Kobold, but didn't X out on panel

Unfortunately, I do not yet own No Cure - it is on its way then I will add in anything in the bonus materials.

Baras

2008-09-18, 11:50 AM

#593 - this is clearly a Kubota kill.....

SPoD

2008-09-18, 11:50 AM

We have one for Kubota now.

EDIT: Ninja'd.

Neopolis

2008-09-18, 02:53 PM

*snarl destroys the entire world*
"That still only counts as one!"
I see what you did there, Gimli.

Baras

2008-09-23, 10:01 AM

#595 Big kill for V - and stylish too...

Baras

2008-10-23, 07:42 AM

#603 And one for Haley - I wonder how the PCs get any XPs - they never kill anything!

Baras

2008-11-03, 09:39 AM

#604 3 more for Haley...She is making a play for Belkar's spot as the killer on the team...

Ron Miel

2008-11-25, 01:39 AM

#611

2 for nameless cleric

How are joint efforts counted? If two people working together kill someone, do they get 1 credit each, or 1/2?

Anyway, Belkar kills 7 solo, and 2 jointly with Mr Scruffy.

Baras

2008-11-25, 02:23 AM

And Belkar increases his lead again.

He who struck the killing blow gets the kill, so sorry, no kills for Mr Scruffy.

I will update the main post tonight when I am at home

Baras

2008-12-01, 08:37 AM

#612 3 More for Belkar. I paid the Woman with Eyepatch, but not the Guy At The Top Of The Stairs.

Baras

2008-12-14, 11:08 AM

#614 3 Minty fresh kills for Hayley

The Bookworm

2008-12-22, 10:17 PM

In Strip 40, do Surtur's Kills count?

Kroy

2008-12-22, 10:40 PM

In Strip 40, do Surtur's Kills count?

Well you never see them die, or see X X eyes, so I'm assuming no.

Baras

2009-01-05, 12:55 PM

Update for #618 Another 4 De-flanked kills for Haley

and..

In Strip 40, do Surtur's Kills count?
No, there are no x's etc, but good point.

Baras

2009-03-19, 11:07 PM

#638 Uber V for the dragon

Baras

2009-03-20, 04:30 AM

#639 umm....58 more kills for Uber V!!!

I think we need to count Uber V as different from V ...

Which gives Hir 59 Kills in 2 panels!

JoseB

2009-03-20, 04:38 AM

59... And that is strictly counting "in panel" kills... There might be reasons to think that V has committed genocide :smalleek:

Ron Miel

2009-03-20, 09:26 AM

58 dragons and 4 eggs. Do the eggs count as kills?

Calavera

2009-03-20, 10:22 AM

58 dragons and 4 eggs. Do the eggs count as kills?

59 dragons. You're probably missing the pair of dragons in one panel in the very smallest row. I did too at first count.

ericgrau

2009-03-20, 01:10 PM

59 dragons. You're probably missing the pair of dragons in one panel in the very smallest row. I did too at first count.

Are you sure? I saw what might be a pair, then when I looked closer I saw a black line connecting the "two". Then I made out 4 legs and a head so I think it's only 1 dragon. How many panels from the left are you talking about? (where the leftmost panel is "first from the left")

And I counted 57 58 dragons and 4 eggs. Below are the individual row totals (not including eggs), to help others verify. I summed them up in Excel to be sure:
1
3
3
6
6
7 8
8
23
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57 58

EDIT: Fixed... for the second time. Stupid forum lag.

Trixie

2009-03-20, 02:48 PM

And I counted 57 dragons and 4 eggs. Below are the individual row totals (not including eggs), to help others verify. I summed them up in Excel to be sure:
1
3
3
6
6
7
8
23
-----
57

Your line with '7' should be '8'.

Calavera

2009-03-20, 05:52 PM

Are you sure? I saw what might be a pair, then when I looked closer I saw a black line connecting the "two". Then I made out 4 legs and a head so I think it's only 1 dragon. How many panels from the left are you talking about? (where the leftmost panel is "first from the left")

I thought the 7th from the left was 2 dragons, but looking at it, I think you're right.

Baras

2009-03-22, 07:20 AM

58 dragons and 4 eggs. Do the eggs count as kills?
The eggs Don't count because you can't see the x's (and I am making an exception for the panels where the image is too small for the x's to resolve

Ron Miel

2009-03-22, 05:39 PM

Baras

2009-03-23, 03:58 AM

What about beheadings? Do they count? Frequently it doesn't show X's in the eyes.

example here ( http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0437.html) , does this count as three kills for the fake Xykon, or four?

Gahh... My file with the comic by comic count was fragged in my latest HDD colapse, so I can't go back and check, but from memory, I broke my own rule there because it was so blatantly obvious that the beheaded person was going to die shortly after.

And I thought that making a simple definition of what counted as a 'Kill' would make this easier - I should have known better :smalltongue:

The Lords Breed

2009-03-23, 07:40 AM

Hmm, I don't know what numbers you using for 'Super V' but there's more than 59 dragons on the last comic, a total of 62. This includes the mother dragon V killed, each of the four eggs, and the panel which has an older dragon with its baby.

EDIT: I see you said the eggs don't count. :P

Kaytara

2009-03-23, 09:03 AM

The eggs Don't count because you can't see the x's (and I am making an exception for the panels where the image is too small for the x's to resolve

Isn't that a bit silly? I mean, we have dozens of panels showing dragons being killed. Why should we assume that the eggs shown among those dragons weren't actually killed simply because we can't see the x's on the eyes?

JJ48

2009-03-23, 01:04 PM

Isn't that a bit silly? I mean, we have dozens of panels showing dragons being killed. Why should we assume that the eggs shown among those dragons weren't actually killed simply because we can't see the x's on the eyes?

Not all eggs are necessarily fertilized. Do we know that there were even living dragons in all the eggs?

Runa

2009-03-23, 02:27 PM

Not all eggs are necessarily fertilized. Do we know that there were even living dragons in all the eggs?

Here's a point though:

If there were no "living dragons", no fertilization, etc... why are they being destroyed by Familicide? I draw your attention to the fact that though it isn't a "real word", going by the two roots that make it up, logically it's killing a family... not killing a family's nonliving output.

Maybe there should be an asterisk next to this one... "59 (*or 63 if you count the eggs)"? :smalltongue:

btw, there are at least two panels with more than one dragon... one has two flying together if I recall correctly; the other has one large and one very small dragon (presumably her child? They're poking out of a cave...). IIRC, counting the first black dragon Uber V killed, shouldn't the count be closer to "60, or 64 if you count the eggs"?