Do you think that Vaarsuvius' mate will ever appear in the comic?

[Yerocha]

It seems significant that a plot-point like that was made, though it could just be made for a series of punchlines. I'd actually like to see him or her, if only for the added humour of the others seeing what an androgynous elf has for a romantic life. Granted, I'm not usually a fan of relationship humour, but this would be so twisted that I'd still enjoy it.

And on that topic, what would V's mate look like? A pallete swap of V, or something...creepier?

[Zordrath]

I believe the Giant has said somewhere in the comic book commentaries that the mate indeed WILL appear - not sure where exactly that was, though.

Personally, I think the mate will be just as androgynous as V, but I hope it's more than V in different clothes.

[Istari]

Matbe they will be a goth necromancer with undefined gender identity.

[Icewalker]

Probably. It will most likely be another completely androgynous elf.

[Green-Shirt Q]

I beieve it will be a woman. V turns out to be a woman too.

*everyone looks at Q*:smallconfused:

What?:smallconfused:

[Charles Phipps]

I think it would be appropriate if Vaarsuvius' mate is also named Vaarsuvius and functionally identical in appearance.

However, he/she wears a different color robe.

[Szilard]

Savusraav will be the mates name.:smalltongue:

[The gF]

V's mate will be a hermaphroditic half-orc Berserker. A Lawful Good one.

[Roderick_BR]

That sounded more like a joke to weird out (more) the others Oots members than an important plot point.
If she/he do appears, though, it may become a plot point, if they meet outside of elven lands (ie, V's mate seek them out for some reason).

[Morgan Wick]

V's mate will also be androgynous, but in such a way that if you think V is one gender, you will think his/her mate is the other.

[Lorn]

No, no. There'll be clearly ID'd gender.

Just both of them. At once.

[Kurald Galain]

I think Vaarsuvius's mate will turn out to be a dwarf.

...what? :smallbiggrin:

[Flickerdart]

Savusraav will be the mates name.:smalltongue:

Only if he was in the Linear Guild.

[Half-blood]

I'd actually bet money that "Savusraav" will actually NOT be androgynus

mostly because that The giant Usually seems to do "Take that" things to the forums for whatever reason. even if not intentional. I could also see V and "S" coming together and when "S" is in view. (S)he looks exactly like V. belkar might go "Yeah. no one saw THAT one coming."

[Helanna]

Why? If V's mate isn't adrogynous, then we'll be able to tell V's gender. And if that happened, the OotS universe would collapse in on itself and we would never be able to read it again!!!!

Well, maybe. More likely, it'll just take a lot of the fun out of V's character.

[Zeitgeist]

Savusraav will be the mates name.:smalltongue:

Suivusraav, technically. Surprised no nitpickers pointed this out.

[Lira]

Why? If V's mate isn't adrogynous, then we'll be able to tell V's gender. And if that happened, the OotS universe would collapse in on itself and we would never be able to read it again!!!!We won't necessarily be able to tell V's gender if V's mate is not androgynous. They could be a gay couple. :P

[Yerocha]

Actually, perhaps V's mate is a shapeshifter demon like Sabine and we never actually see his/her true form. That could be a good "Take That!" as well.

[kingpocky]

We won't necessarily be able to tell V's gender if V's mate is not androgynous. They could be a gay couple. :P

Right. Maybe it's different for elves, but how often do you hear anyone use "mate" as a noun like that? I mean, there's no reason that someone's "life partner" necessarily couldn't be the opposite gender - It just usually doesn't get used that way.

[David Argall]

V's mate will be something that keeps the question open. If clearly male or female, there will be strong hints of gay behavior or such. More likely the other elf will also be uncertain. I have suggested we will have a strip where the partner is never clearly seen, and the party talks about the subject being settled, but never mention the actual sex of either. Alternately, it could be someone who changes sex with each frame. Or...
But no, the point won't be settled.

[Paragon Badger]

My bet? We'll seem him/her in one comic strip.


V: Hi.
???: Hi. How's questing?
V: Good, you?
???: Same. ...Bye.
V: Bye.

[Veriella]

I think that the mate looks exactly like Vaarsuvius, just a diffrent robe and hair color. And let me gues... there will be a nice Belkar-joke then. Like he thinks the mate is V. :smallbiggrin:
But first Vaarsuvius must get `normal´ again.

[T-O-E]

I think it would be appropriate if Vaarsuvius' mate is also named Vaarsuvius and functionally identical in appearance.

However, he/she wears a different color robe.

Well, I've always thought he'd be perfect for himself. Can't imagine him marrying anyone else .

[kerberos]

I believe the Giant has said somewhere in the comic book commentaries that the mate indeed WILL appear - not sure where exactly that was, though.

I recall that to, It's in the comentary for the section in which the revelation that V is married is made. I believe it's in No Cure for the Paladin Blues.

[Salty]

OotPCs Spoiler
I think that V's mate will be V's master (Aarindarius). The way the section is written, it seems plausable.

[Athaniar]

Vaarsuvius's mate is actually Lord Tyrinar, who is not
Elan's father, but rather a dwarf like
Durkon, except it's one
who is a hermaphrodite. This dwarf is Hilgya.

But here comes the twist:
Durkon-ish Hilgya
works for Miko, who is
Xykon. Her/
His purpose? To kill Redcloak, who is
Haley's sister,
and stop her from killing the MitD, who is a cousin of
the Oracle.

[T-O-E]

Vaarsuvius's mate is actually Lord Tyrinar, who is not
Elan's father, but rather a dwarf like
Durkon, except it's one
who is a hermaphrodite. This dwarf is Hilgya.

But here comes the twist:
Durkon-ish Hilgya
works for Miko, who is
Xykon. Her/
His purpose? To kill Redcloak, who is
Haley's sister,
and stop her from killing the MitD, who is a cousin of
the Oracle.

Been playing Epileptic Tree Mad-Libs?

[OOTS_Supporter]

Vaarsuvius's mate is actually Lord Tyrinar, who is not
Elan's father, but rather a dwarf like
Durkon, except it's one
who is a hermaphrodite. This dwarf is Hilgya.

But here comes the twist:
Durkon-ish Hilgya
works for Miko, who is
Xykon. Her/
His purpose? To kill Redcloak, who is
Haley's sister,
and stop her from killing the MitD, who is a cousin of
the Oracle.

Right after Therkla returns from hell to kill the giant bird of Leeky, who died during the tragic death of ROy the second time?

[Kaytara]

Just a colour-swapped copy of Vaarsuvius? But that would be boring! I mean, what would the use of that be? You'd already know what to expect from the character. There'd be no surprise.

I think V's mate might be vastly different from Vaarsuvius. Like a wood elf sorcerer. XD Or perhaps a rogue or a bard... Someone with finely-honed soft skills as opposed to calculus abilities.

[Zordrath]

I don't think V's the kind of type to marry a bard. It is very possible that the mate is not a wizard, though I do think V would prefer someone as interested in the arcane arts as (s)he is. It's his/her life's only content, after all.

But who knows, love is complicated after all :smallbiggrin:

[Kaytara]

I don't think V's the kind of type to marry a bard. It is very possible that the mate is not a wizard, though I do think V would prefer someone as interested in the arcane arts as (s)he is. It's his/her life's only content, after all.

But who knows, love is complicated after all :smallbiggrin:

Well, a bard IS an arcane caster, after all. XD Not all of them are like Elan. It actually would be interesting to see one who really takes the job seriously for a change...

[Zordrath]

D'oh!

Still, I place my emphasis on interested in the arcane arts, not on 'learned it during his weeks in bard camp' :smalltongue:

Additionally, if V's mate were a competent bard, I think (s)he would have held Elan in higher regard from the very beginning. While a serious bard would indeed make for a nice change, Elan already pointed out that the job description entails walking into dungeons and singing at people - how many serious people willing to do that could there be? :smallamused:

[Zevox]

As others have said, if V's mate does appear, he won't be shown in such a way as to dispel the ambiguity of V's sex. Either he'll be just as ambiguous as she is, or there will be strong hints that V could be bi/homosexual dropped, or something of the sort (maybe he'll be a Transmutation specialist who likes using Polymorph spells to change sexes every day or something).

Anyway, I won't be surprised if we do see him sometime - the humor potential is undeniable. I don't think he'll just be a pallet-swapped V in appearance, since I think the Giant is more creative than to go that obvious route, but we'll just have to wait and see I guess.

Zevox

[Kroy]

Yes. The Giant mentioned it at the end of NCftPB

I try to find it right now.

[Optimystik]

Well, a bard IS an arcane caster, after all. XD Not all of them are like Elan. It actually would be interesting to see one who really takes the job seriously for a change...

*snicker*

How "seriously" can anyone really take the job of singing at monsters in a dungeon?

[T-O-E]

*snicker*

How "seriously" can anyone really take the job of singing at monsters in a dungeon?

When that person can command demon lords by voice alone.

[Optimystik]

When that person can command demon lords by voice alone.

I'd rather a Turning check do that than a Perform check. That way I have someone else to blame if it fails. :smalltongue:

[Kaytara]

*snicker*

How "seriously" can anyone really take the job of singing at monsters in a dungeon?

I could think of several ways. XD Imagine a gravely bard who never cracks a smile and whose music repertoire consists of singing requiems to complement the deaths of the party's foes. XD

In any case, pulling off a bard more seriously than Elan isn't hard to do. If it were, say, Vaarsuvius or Roy stuck as a bard, they'd probably do a careful, calculated assessment of the opportunities and abilities presented to them by that class. And which spells would be more useful. Like Neutralize Poison.

Incidentally, Rich's comment about V being married is that it's "A random fact, but one that will become important in the future."
What with V going crazy and all, not listening to reason and, who knows, perhaps not even willing to listen to Haley soon enough, I think that future may be coming.

[OOTS_Supporter]

He will appear to bring V to her senses, I think.

[Zordrath]

I could think of several ways. XD Imagine a gravely bard who never cracks a smile and whose music repertoire consists of singing requiems to complement the deaths of the party's foes. XD
Now that sounds surprisingly interesting :smallamused:

[Kaytara]

He will appear to bring V to her senses, I think.

Yeah, that's what I thought, but I think it will be tricky to pull off properly. On one hand, V's megalomania problem being lifted just like that by a newly-appeared character would be cheap... on the other hand, it could alternatively serve as a very effective introduction for said character.

[Doran_Liadon]

I think Vaarsuivius' mates name will be Vuursavias.

[Zordrath]

Someone would have to send word to the mate, though, and the only one who could do that is V. Otherwise, there's no way of the mate finding V, and no way of Durkon or Elan finding the mate.

[T-O-E]

Whoever V's mate turns out to be, I trust s/he'll be a decent addition to the story as I trust in the Giant and his story-telling ability.

[Kaytara]

Someone would have to send word to the mate, though, and the only one who could do that is V. Otherwise, there's no way of the mate finding V, and no way of Durkon or Elan finding the mate.

Agree for the most part, but what would prevent V's mate from finding V? As far as we know, Vaarsuvius hasn't tried to make himself magically inaccessible. And if V's mate lives anywhere near a cleric with a Sending spell or has access to something similar mate-self, what would be the problem?

The only thing is that V's mate would actually need a reason to suddenly try to contact V out of the blue, but there could be any number of reasons to do that. "Honey, I shrunk the kids". XD

[OOTS_Supporter]

Yeah, that's what I thought, but I think it will be tricky to pull off properly. On one hand, V's megalomania problem being lifted just like that by a newly-appeared character would be cheap... on the other hand, it could alternatively serve as a very effective introduction for said character.

I think it shouldn't be right away.

I can see him coming to stop V, they fight for a while, and then V comes to her senses.

I can see V, and Belkar if he was there, making jokes about the cliche of a loved one preventing insanity.

[Zordrath]

Kids? Let's not go crazy there :smalltongue:

It's certainly possible, but unless pulled off incredibly well, would seem rather anticlimactic to me, as you said. Then again, we're talking about a character who's been saved from a Death Knight by a head falling from the sky... :smallbiggrin:

[Naleh]

Actually, V's mate doesn't necessarily need to seek V out at all. V left to find a more appropriate place from where to seek out Haley and Roy. So, V might just return home.

[Deploy]

this is my crazy theory of how they could ease V's mate into the story, stop V from going completely off his/her rocker and get V some character development.

I think that once haley and co. reach cliffport they will travel to warthog academy to speak with Julia. Julia agrees to help them get Roy's body back and they will go off looking for mercenaries to help them as Haley suggested. While Belkar is looking for an arcane caster for the temporary party (as Julia is likely still to low a level) and meet an elf. This elf will join haley and co. as he/she has nothing better to do and has been wondering for some time what it was like. They get Roy's body back and Haley says "Now we just have to get him bak to Durkon and Elan and then we can contact Vaarsuvius." The new Elf will flip because he/she is in fact V's mate. He then helps them go find V. They find him/her only to see V in a rampage induced by Qarr, V accidentally kills his/her mate and weeps openly yelling "What have I done!" Belkar points out Durkon just has to cast Resurrect to get V's mate back, to which Elan whispers "Shhh, V's being dramtic and getting some much needed character development"

[Berserk Monk]

I thought V's mate was Thog.

[Kaytara]

I thought V's mate was Thog.

I'd ask you to explain that conclusion, but I value my sanity too much... :smalleek: :smallamused:

Deploy - nice idea, though I'd rather not have V actually say "What Have I Done". V's mate doesn't need to get killed either, simply getting hurt should probably be enough for V to snap out of it.
Somehow I don't think V's arc will be resolved that way, though. I've imagined it more as Vaarsuvius having to make a choice between power and friendship - probably not literally, but a reassessment of priorities is in order.

[David Argall]

There is a distinct chance the other V will appear in the next book. The elven lands are reasonably well known to the Azure City crowd, and so dropping into the elven lands on the way to the next gate is a quite possible development.

[adibobo]

Agree for the most part, but what would prevent V's mate from finding V? As far as we know, Vaarsuvius hasn't tried to make himself magically inaccessible. And if V's mate lives anywhere near a cleric with a Sending spell or has access to something similar mate-self, what would be the problem?

The only thing is that V's mate would actually need a reason to suddenly try to contact V out of the blue, but there could be any number of reasons to do that. "Honey, I shrunk the kids". XD

Or he/she could be an arcane or divine caster himself/herself(i don't play DnD so i dont know which one can scry or cast sending but i think that maybe both of them)
and he/she could just be worried about V since he/she hasn't seen him/her for years(i don't have On the origin of PCs so i don't know if V told him/her not to look for him/her or something like that)
also a new theory: V's mate is a divine spellcaster, it is probably the least expected type of class

[Kaytara]

also a new theory: V's mate is a divine spellcaster, it is probably the least expected type of class

How about a druid? XD

Origins didn't have anything on V's mate though. It didn't have much on V in general, just that V's parents were rangers and that V studied magic before heading off to human lands. Big surprise there. XD

[Dogmantra]

V's mate is going to be a human.
V's son is Pompey, and he achieves ultimate arcane power with the words "I am your father!"

But the twist is... The mother is HALEY!

More epileptic trees there for ya.

[Kaytara]

Or do you think V's mate is a woman?
Or maybe it's a ninja?
Or maybe it's a plant-person?
Or maybe it's a robot, sent from the future to punish us in the past! :smallbiggrin:

[OOTS_Supporter]

Or do you think V's mate is a woman?
Or maybe it's a ninja?
Or maybe it's a plant-person?
Or maybe it's a robot, sent from the future to punish us in the past! :smallbiggrin:

The fourth! Instead replacing it with ROy's "opinion" on what SHojo will be due to Elan's annoyances.

Seriously, I think it will just be another elf who is male. Or another ambigous elf.

I just wish Lirian's Gate wasn't destroyed, it would give them an excuse to go to Elven Lands.

[Veriella]

Hello, guys? This gets creepy now.
V`s mate must be ambigious, because the giant said, he`d never tell us V`s gender. And to be honest, I think that V has an usual girl+boy love.

I think if s/he appears in one of the next comics it would like this:

Haley, Celia and Belkar find a way to bring Roy to life, because of a wizard or I don`t know. Then they need to find the ship with Durkon, Vaarsuvius and Elan on it. But they finally listened to Elan and came back to Azure city. So Haley & co. have still no idea where they could find them. (A few strips with walking around ans a few Belkar jokes) Then Roy gets visited by his father again. He tells him that they have to go to Azure city, and as you expected they do it and find the others there.
Durkon explains, why V isn`t with them and they want to go again, but are captured. But someone saves them, an elf. First Belkar thinks of V, because s/he looks like her/him, accept for the hair- and the robecolour. So he starts with "Vaarsuvius" the Elf is surprised and they talk blablabla... etc. and they decide to look for her/him.
Then V comes with the little devil (I forgot his name) with him and tries to destroy the members of oots. But then V sees her/his mate and is totally confused. The other elf brings her/him back to normal and the devil (I still don`t remember his name) disappears.
Then the elves talk and the oots, as well blablabla... Then V explains that everything is o.k. with her/him again and the elves say goodbye to each other and the mate disappeares.

Crazy theory:smallbiggrin:, but I actually don`t think that the mate appears soon.:smallfrown:

[Carteeg_Struve]

I'm going to make a guess that will, of course, not happen:

I'm expecting a one-panel flashback of V and Mr(s). V together just after the birth of their child (also undefined genderwise). The image will be confusing as to which of the two actually gave birth.

V: "It was a stressful day. The labor was intense. Threats of emasculation were almost carried out, and some injury did result."

Obviously who injured who and who was in labor is also not clarified.

And why not further annoy people by having V come home only to discover Mr(s). V was cheating on him/her with another (wo)man while (s)he was off adventuring. Toss in some confusion from V over the fact that the wife/husband's lover's gender meant that Mr(s). V's sexual orientation was not what (s)he thought it was while still not clarifying what (s)he initially thought it was, and I think everyone in the fanbase will:

a) laugh,
b) get pissed off at Giant,
c) need migraine medicine,
or
d) all of the above.

[EndlessWrath]

Quite possible. However, I don't think it'll help any. I figure the mate will be as androgynous as V is. Still would be funny/interesting :smallamused:

[Sereg]

(maybe he'll be a Transmutation specialist who likes using Polymorph spells to change sexes every day or something).

I would love to see that. (Come to think of it, if I lived in a D&D world I'd probably like to try it. I do like transmutation and think that sequential hermaphrodites are cool)

[Fredthefighter]

If V's mate does appear then it will most likely look exaclty like V but with different clothes (Could be a Fighter, as The Fighter's strength balances with The Wizard's intellect. It could be a calm cleric to contrast with V's current Edgy style, or it could be a Barbarian to contrast with V's original Calmness).
I don't know when or what it will be, but it will be funny.

[MadScientistMat]

When I first learned V was married, one of my first thoughts were that it's a very good way to explain why he / she never becomes romantically involved with any other character, and a reason for V to get angry when a character of any gender makes advances. In a way, learning that V was married removed several potential clues at the same time as providing a couple good punch lines.

[DeviledEggs]

Then we find out...

Xykon.

Dun dun DUNNNN!!!

[Optimystik]

Then we find out...

Xykon.

Dun dun DUNNNN!!!

Rule 34, stat!!

[Schulzy]

Naturally, V's mate will be suffering from an incurable disease/curse/affliction of some sort, hence V's constant obsession with ultimate arcane power; it is so he/she can save his mate. This is a trope so obvious that Elan will be able smell it from 10 strips away. Bonus points if V's mate works in a diner or bar.

[Kaytara]

Naturally, V's mate will be suffering from an incurable disease/curse/affliction of some sort, hence V's constant obsession with ultimate arcane power; it is so he/she can save his mate. This is a trope so obvious that Elan will be able smell it from 10 strips away. Bonus points if V's mate works in a diner or bar.

I thought about that, too, but IMHO it would be too cheap a copout. It would render Vaarsuvius' power-lust artificial and thus a meaningless characteristic. Alternatively, if we were to find out that Vaarsuvius was already power-hungry from the beginning but simply now has a good reason to be that way, well, that's exactly what happened with Haley - she's always been greedy but is now extra dedicated to it in order to save her father. I don't think anyone would like the same trick being played twice.

[Lupy]

Yes. The Giant said so in a NCftPB commentary.

[NeoVid]

We won't necessarily be able to tell V's gender if V's mate is not androgynous. They could be a gay couple. :P

It would be really entertaining if it turned out to be a same-sex relationship, but we still have no idea which sex.

[Assassin89]

How about V's mate being another wizard? V's goal is to outclass her mate by becoming a greater wizard because they used to be rivals in the magical arts.

[Veriella]

How about V's mate being another wizard? V's goal is to outclass her mate by becoming a greater wizard because they used to be rivals in the magical arts.

I thaught about V`s mate being a wizard as well, but your idea is nice!:smallsmile:

Do you think that V`s mate has something to do with the ultimate arcane power, V will get in the future? (Sorry that I deviate a bit from the actual theme, but it is interesting:smallwink:)