How Low Can You Go?

[merrja666]

LA is nearly always positive.... but a few cases are LA negative. Although this normally entails ruin, an Incarnate Construct Xvart has an LA of -4.....

If you used all D&D publications, how low could it go, and what is the minimum level for Epic?

[Swooper]

Uhm... LA doesn't work like that. It doesn't go into the negatives. Even kobolds, who are CR 1/4, have LA +0. I don't know where Incarnate Construct Xvarts are from, but I won't believe they have negative LA until I see it. Negative LA would frell up game balance even more than it already is... We don't want that.

[Kizara]

LA is nearly always positive.... but a few cases are LA negative. Although this normally entails ruin, an Incarnate Construct Xvart has an LA of -4.....

If you used all D&D publications, how low could it go, and what is the minimum level for Epic?

Playing a Monk will grant you -2 LA.

Also, playing a gnome will grant you -1 LA.

There's 3 for you anyways. :smallbiggrin:


EDIT: On a more serious note, Epic starts 21 HD. Whether that's levels or dragon HD. Thus, even if you could somehow get -20 LA, unless that actually granted you HD (which I don't know if it does, as as far as I know it doesn't actually exist) you still wouldn't qualify for epic stuff.

[ZeroNumerous]

Xvart are LA+0

Incarnate Constructs do have negative LAs, but they're from Savage Species, which is 3.0 and hasn't been updated to 3.5.

[Tempest Fennac]

What exactly did Incarnate Construcs do? I'm curious about how they got a negative LA.

[PirateMonk]

Playing a Monk will grant you -2 LA.

Also, playing a gnome will grant you -1 LA.

There's 3 for you anyways. :smallbiggrin:


EDIT: On a more serious note, Epic starts 21 HD. Whether that's levels or dragon HD. Thus, even if you could somehow get -20 LA, unless that actually granted you HD (which I don't know if it does, as as far as I know it doesn't actually exist) you still wouldn't qualify for epic stuff.

If you had -20 LA, you could have 21 levels with enough XP to be level 1.

[Illiterate Scribe]

What exactly did Incarnate Construcs do? I'm curious about how they got a negative LA.

They can only be applied to a construct, which have high HD anyway, and they lose a ton of their defensive abilities in return for a playable int.

[Tempest Fennac]

Thanks for telling me. How would negative LA work for races without a load of HDs to lose?

[ZeroNumerous]

Thanks for telling me. How would negative LA work for races without a load of HDs to lose?

There aren't any negative LA sans Incarnate Construct.