The Game of Nations

[Wizard of the Coat]

2051, January.

The Game of Nations has started...

Regional unrest continues, all regions affected differently.
((note your civil score will not help you until the start of the next turn...this is to start of everyone with a bit of spice))

Euronews

In a surprising move Greece's government has announced plans to secede from the EU, claiming it is not comfortable with the mostly catholic and Lutheran tone this government is wielding. It has send envoys to the Ukraine and Russia asking them to support them if there is a need. Turkey might also feel the need to get involved with their neighbor, especially since European Cyprus might follow the Greek lead.

(1 population, 1 economy and 1 resources can potentially be lost by the EU by losing greece and cyprus; not yet, but possible)

Central Asian Pact

Kazachstan and Pakistan announce the 'central asian pact'. This is to ensure peace in that region, minors from all over the region are invited, potentially creating a powerblock that Russia, Iran, India and China will have to deal with.

(no minors have joined yet, but they need to have incentives not to...and incentives don't have to be nice...there are both carrots and sticks)

Armenian Conflict

Armenia and Azerbajan has resumed a long standing dispute over a region, a new government in both countries seeking to deliver a final blow to the other. Russian and Turkish interest are under threat as Kurds in Turkey and minors in Russia might seek to capitalize on this. Iran is also nearby and is likely to have some troubles near the border.

(potentially 1 economic damage and 1 population unhappy for all, which might spread.)

Native American Rights Movement

All over South America native Americans are rising up and claiming more power. Peru, Bolivia and Chili have governments made up mostly of them, the conflict threatens to spread to Brazil and Argentina.

(unrest from revolting population possible)

A central African War

2050 has seen a stop in financial aid to Africa and the ensuing chaos has caused revolts in nearly every Sub Saharan country. A humanitarian crisis of immense scale is unfolding that could spill beyond borders. For now South Africa is most likely to be effected. But the vast resources of Africa could be easily claimed by those willing to deal arms.

(If conflict ensues Economies will be damaged worldwide, due to african resources stopped; however one could capitalise on this new 'regimes' and get some very beneficial arms deals...)

Hispanic Movement

In the USA a large 'Hispanic Movement' arises, claiming more and more rights, for what has become an immense part of the population. Some seek to merge with Mexico whilst the WASP population (white anglo saxon protestants) prefers closer ties with Canada to stave of this threat.

(unrest from revolting population possible)

Northern Ireland

Some Irish catholics in northern Ireland, Britain , are detesting the English dominated rule and would like independence. They are actively seeking to undermine the government. The rebels look to Australia for aid, seeing there another nation freed of British post imperialism. In addition they look to Ireland (=EU), especially considering the new 'pro religion' tour the EU is taking.

(unrest from revolting population possible)

Taiwan Declares Independence

Finally the government of Taiwan declares independence fully from China. It is looking to Japan and Indonesia for support, as well as the old friendly USA.

(more minorities in china could get funny idea's if this succeeds, yet if Taiwan is invaded by china it could throw the region into economic crisis, even Australia and India could be effected)


((OOC: research area's will follow later. Happy gaming!!!))

((Oh and guys remember don't PM bombard me, put your actions in spoilers. Also to make this easier, all diplomacy done with others in spoilers requires only one espionage roll to cover it up. List the cover up values though. Also remember your budget is open save for a small bit, use a seperate spoiler to place the hidden budget and it's cover value (if you have any). Wealth can be spend directly on research as well (less efficient in the long run, but great for quickly finishing projects), ask if you are wondering about spending in the recruiting thread))

[Maldiem]

"Capitalist Economists, outraged by our habit of printing money to pay for government expenditures and careful tending of our entire economy's production, say that our Pesos are not worth very much, and that there are far too many of them. We say the same thing about Capitalist Economists."
--The Movement press release following the establishment of the CMJS

Confederación Mexicano para Justicio Social

National Legislature Announces the Formation of ALPHA

CMJS diplomats today announced the formation of the Alianza Liberal para la Proteccion del Hemisferio Americana, ALPHA for short. The defensive and trade alliance includes the CMJS, Argentina, Brazil and Canada. Their goals include mutual protection and bootstrapping these four powers into the next century.

CMJS Press Release Regarding Native American Rights Movement

The Movement would like to point out that Democracy is the only vouchsafe to tyranny, and that oppression of any sort of person is inexcusable. We call upon our South American friends to recognize the rights of their own people, and give Native Americans the equal rights that other South Americans have tried so hard for in the past.

However, we would also like to point out that violence is not an acceptable engine of change, and will resoundingly condemn any atrocities by any party.

Re: Hispanic Rights Movement

The USA has a longstanding history of being a paragon of freedom and individual liberty, and we fully expect them to live up to their reputation. Reactionary oppression of a minority over such trivial things as race and ethnicity is, we hope, an artifact from the distant past. It would be awfully hypocritical to deny these citizens their rights.

((These aren't hidden-- they're just spoilered for space reasons.))
@Central American and Caribbean Minor Powers

Greetings from the CMJS;
We see that the world has entered a new stage of turmoil, and wish to let you know that your neighbors are always willing to help. Should you need assistance of any sort, please do not hesitate to call on us. In the spirit of neighborliness, we offer a favorable trade balance; we will reciprocate on your trade goods at a 2:1 ratio as a measure of goodwill, up to 2 units per region.

((In effect, I want to establish a total of 2 points of trade split between the minor of Central America, and another 2 points between the minors in the Caribbean. I ask only 1 point total from each region in return.))


@South Africa

Greetings from the CMJS;
We note that Africa is again on the verge of turmoil, and wish to offer our friendship and our assistance. We have 1 unit of trade left to assign for the next 5 years, and would like to establish a 1:1 trade.

Additionally, we offer our military assistance, should war become inevitable-- we do not want to repeat the last century.


@Wizard

Are any of the rebel groups/militias/semi-legitimate governments CMJS-leaning in their political ideology? If so, where are they, how strong are they, and do they have at least relatively clean hands?


Trade breakdown for turn 2:

Total: 16:14
Nation: (Giving):(Receiving)
Brazil: 5:5
Argentina: 3:3
Canada: 3:3
South Africa (pending): 1:1
Central American Minor Powers (Pending): 2:1
Caribbean Minor Powers (Pending): 2:1

[Nerd-o-rama]

The Federal Republic of Ukraine

Spending Summary
Wealth: +15 (2+7+6)
Trade Income: +13 (global free trade)
Upkeep: -11 (55/5)
Total: +17

Economy +2 (4 points)
Air +2 (4 points)
Army +2 (4 points)
Tech +1 (2 points)
Civil +1 (2 points)
Total: -16

Spending Details
The government of Ukraine has enacted several policies to stimulate their fragile economy in the wake of recent unrest. In addition to relaxing tariffs and trade restrictions toward other Eastern European nations, the Verkhovna Rada has instituted numerous tax breaks for manufacturers and small businesses, particularly in the Technology and Information sectors. At the same time, government spending has increased, with many public funds going to pay private manufacturers and construction companies to maintain and upgrade Ukraine's flaggind social infrastructure. Finally, several major defense contracts were awarded as Ukraine began a major overhaul of their armed forces. Of note were contracts awarded to replace the nation's arsenal turn-of-the-century T-84 main battle tanks with newer models and to Antonov Inc. to design a new series of jet combat aircraft.

Trade Offer Summary
Nation (Give:Receive)
Russia (4:4) Confirmed
Belarus (1:1) NPC
Romania (1:1) NPC
Bulgaria (1:1) NPC
Balkan Minors (1:1) NPC
Baltic Minors (1:1) NPC
Turkey (4:4) Not Confirmed

Trade Offer Detail

As a prelude to the Eastern Europe Trade Agreement (see News and Diplomacy, below), Ukraine has opened up significant trade with various minor powers, primarily exporting food and automotives for cash. In addition, Ukrained maintains strong trade relations with Federation Inc., exchanging food and nuclear fuel for high-tech goods and increasingly expensive petroleum products. An offer is also on the table with Turkey for major cross-Black Sea trade, but it has not been confirmed yet.

News and Diplomacy

@Wizard

The Economist: The big news today in Eastern Europe was Ukrainian PM Vasyl Dzubenko's public announcement of the Eastern Europe Trade Agreement (EETA), a proposition put forward by Ukraine's government for a trade organization to encompass many of the non-European Union nations in Eastern Europe. The proposed charter, to be agreed upon by member nations, extends invitations to all former Yugoslavian nations, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Bulgaria, Belarus, and Moldova. Dzubenko added that Greece would also be considered for membership if it had grown dissatisfied with the EU's economic governance. The agreement would serve a similar purpose to NAFTA or ASEAN, establishing fair trade and economic benefits between member nations, rather than the economic standards of an organization like the European Economic Community, which later became today's EU. It would also include provisions for special trade benefits to nearby major powers such as Russia and Turkey. "It is in these troubled times that the peoples of Eastern Europe should band together," said Dzubenko. "Lest our homes once again fall into chaos or the predations of opportunists."

AP: Ukraine speaks out in support of Greek Independence. The Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada voted today 142 votes to 8 to diplomatically support the nation of Greece's secession from the European Union.

@Everyone

The Ukrainian delegate to the United Nations has urged the Security Council to immediately enact widespread and committed peacekeeping efforts in Central Africa, lest the conflict spread.

@Turkey and Russia

AP: In response to the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Ukraine has come forward to offer its CIS allies any needed military aid in resolving the conflict between the two minor nations.

@Turkey

OOC: Please confirm or reject the 4:4 trade. Thanks a lot, sorry to nag, necessary for planning, etc.

(More diplomacy will follow in response to others)

[LongVin]

OOC: Placeholder for a detailed post coming tomorrow when I am not falling asleep at the keyboard.

[Moody the Wise]

@Wizard re: native crisis (not secret, spoilered for space considerations)

What exactly is going on with the native American problem? Are the natives in Argentina clamoring for more power? Are you implying that I don't take good care of my native population?

Are the natives in Chile, Bolivia, and Peru clamoring for more power? Are those governments oppressing their native populations?

Either way, are there any outspoken leaders of these movements? Have they stated any aims?


@Wizard (sort of secret)

I'd like to set up pro-Argentine communist revolutionary movements in Chile, Peru, and Bolivia. What would that take in terms of numbers? I just want to lay the groundwork right now, not to arm them or anything. Mostly I'll be distributing informational literature *cough* Propaganda *cough* and politicizing the population. I figure I can send a few points of spy in to establish them. Can I use, say, 3 points of spy and reasonably expect it to work? Making it work would be my primary objective - covering it up would be secondary since they wouldn't actually be doing anything illegal.

Also, are there any populations in Central/Southern Africa that might welcome my help in staging a Marxist revolution to secure their country from the ravages of war sweeping the continent? I'd be willing to commit some troops to make this happen. What sort of military force would serve to secure a relatively small African nation? How about something like Namibia? I read that Namibia currently has unemployment in the 30-40% range and a very small military - sounds like the sort of place that might suffer heavily from foreign aid being cut off. Maybe Angola? Tanzania?

I would of course undertake this mission with the humanitarian interests of the people at heart, and I'd make my best honest effort to establish a stable and prosperous government there. I'd also only do it if I knew I could count on the (at least initial) support of at least a majority of the people. Please consider my agents dispatched to the region pronto to investigate the possibility of this plan, and to spread the gospel of Marxism (edit: these 'ambassadors' will also bring food and medicine as signs of goodwill).

La Unión de Comunas Argentinas (The Union of Argentine Communes)

National Congress Approves Executive Council Decision to Join ALPHA

The UCA joins Mexico in officially declaring its membership in the economic and defensive pact ALPHA. We hope that by forging close bonds with our neighbors we may save the Americas from the fires of war.

UCA Opens Borders to Uruguay, Paraguay

In an effort to improve relations with our Guayer neighbors, we are offering them each 1:1 trade deals.

[More to come later when I have a better understanding of the conflicts going on]

[nothingclever]

Australia has made a formal proposal to New Zealand to join it and form one nation.

Prime Minister Robert Daniels reminds the people of New Zealand that Australia has been their nation's greatest supporter both in terms of economy and defense. He also mentions how the USA decided to stop protecting New Zealand under the ANZUS security treaty because it would not allow nuclear powered or armed ships to settle in its harbors but Australia continued to protect it. Australia respects New Zealand's dedication to upholding a nuclear free policy and ensures it will be protected as Australia feels the same way. In fact, Australia has decided to become an official nuclear free country and strongly opposes ever changing this stance. Instead of using nuclear power it will conduct research into the use of hydroelectric and wind energy.

Robert promises that New Zealand will be treated with the same respect all states of Australia currently receive and will do everything in his power to help it achieve greater prosperity. Although some may feel offended by what Robert has next proposed he says it is not meant to be derogatory. He has asked that New Zealand become known officially as New Australia purely as a sign of unity among peoples.

[Wizard of the Coat]

Cover 5
~~from the depths of the Hungarian plains...

from submarines surfacing in the Eastern Mediterranean and Baltic Sea~~

... from the manifold airfields and missile silos of the European Union, from the Strategic Bombers on patrol over Continental Europe...

under the deep blue sea submarines rose to attack level
Carriers came to a full alert as the most recent-generation fighters, the Continental Striker developed by Germany, Italy and France, the Schwarze Bombardier, The Griffin Blue of the proud and independent Swedish models...
... artillery pounded out into the night already at the moment the announcement had come on television, the first wave of attacks were already en route against the military of Ukraine and the Headquarters of the the junta of the Ukrainian flats...
Rebels deserve a declaration, but they do not deserve to be alerted of a surprise in store for them.

the tactical nukes detonated where they passed through what naval barrier fire could be assembled against the hyperspeed missiles, the short-range ballistic missiles went off on airburst at higher altitudes... targeting airbases and ports and army concentrations as tertiary targets...

This was an all-out assault, even ICBMs were put to use. Only the russian (as in Ukrainian) rebel population would be spared the wrath of the EU... the military would be subject to everything that did not destroy cities and towns (unless they're really bunched up, a few tactical nukes would only do superficial damage to a township while destroying a military base completely)... as long as the military cowardly stayed in their cities they would only be subject to 50-100 ton TNT cruise missiles and SRBMs...

The army took no action however, other than liberally testing half combined artillery of the EU to see if the barrels really could withstand such temperatures as the producers claimed and fortifying the border to Ukraine and setting up missile defenses along the border and all across the EU... The electromagnetic railguns invented for battleships by the US and EU in the early years of the new millenium had been carefully deployed across the EUs eastern borders and on ships, blasting merrily away with their thousands of kilometers of range...

News blackouts hit frequently across the Ukraine, giving the EU hours or days as their satellites and most powerful radio stations jammed signals... EMP missiles were fired off across the most sensitive areas of Ukrainian military and news agencies... if it could be shut down the EU took pride in doing so to confuse and bewilder all who lived there.

Cover 5 (same thing), not story, but Orders (separated for ease)
Let's start with the nuke attack.

When the reports that the Ukrainian rebels had broken the truce with their diplomatic intentions and statement and the EUs response to it came in the EU calmly stated that it would never, and could never accept such blatant attempts to decapitate the EUs body without asking the EU if it is ok first.
Moeris Villera told the world that it was her sincere belief that the EU is not a warmonger, but will not tolerate obvious attempts to partition the organization.
"I ask for the world's support in crushing the Ukrainian aggressor. As you can see we are a peaceful nation and seek only peaceful resolutions and respect the territorial integrity of Britain. As for Greece we are intent that they allow us a chance to prove our good intentions first. The action taken against Ukraine today is a guarantor for every great nation that partitioning their territory is not acceptable. The US would never let its Hispanic states go. Would Canada accept Quebec's independence? Would China allow its manifold regions to secede? Would Japan allow Hokkaido to just leave? Would Australia let Tasmania and its interior become Aboriginee states? Would Brazil let the Indians leave? What of Argentina? Would it accept the secessionists among its Indians? India? What of your muslim and Buddhist and Christian minorities? Pakistan? Do you not remember the pain of losing Bangladesh? Does not Britain enjoy my respect for the Union of their four island nations? Does Mexico wish to give up the Yucatan? Does Turkey want to secede its east to Armenians and its west to Bulgarians? What of Iraq and Iran with its Shia and Sunni minorities? Or Indonesia and its Christians and Buddhists and Hindus? Shall we all become a thousand tiny states because juntas like the one in the Ukrainian flats wishes to conquer and divide?

The EU is not even as defensive as that. All we wish is the chance to prove to Greece that we love them as they are part of us.

It is time to return the Ukrainian flats to a sane nation.
It is time to support the use of the EUs air force, navy and cruise missiles and non-radioactive tactical low-yield nukes only slightly more powerful than the high-yield cruise missiles in the battle against rebel forces.

I call upon Russia, I call upon Turkey, I call upon Ukraine's neighbors to understand. I call upon the west and the east and the south and the southwest and the southeast to join us in this battle against evil intentions.

I do not even wish for this territory myself. May Romania or Belarus or Poland (yes an EU state) or Russia or Turkey rule it. But as an EU promise I seal my word that Ukraine will not become part of the EU. My interest is purely defensive.

And while the EUs ambitions are few and modest other than our interest in space I warn you. This is how we deal with foreign interference. If you wish to support an independence movements, ask for permission, as we have asked Britain for permission to encourage a referendum and Catholic voters to participate."

You did wrong.

To cover something up you need to invest Espionage points and assign primary/secondary/tertiary, roll the action dice and see what comes out. Also you cannot cover up a nuclear strike.

I assume you want a maxed strength action (primary), some cover up (secondary). I'll railroad you here as an example (note that improperly written order, and those without action points will be ignored in the future.

[Wizard of the Coat]

OK, I think I got it this time:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74665
I don't understand these rules yet, so I'll just roll my dice and stay out of CO-GMing for faraway interest until I've got a better hold of them.

Nuclear Strike 1: Rolled 6 against Ukrainian army.
Nuclear Strike 2: Rolled 3 against Ukrainian air force.
Nuclear Strike 3: Rolled 4 against against Ukrainian army, rolled 4 against Ukrainian air force.

Follow-up strike concentrating on hitting their ports and ships in the open for the naval offense and airbases for air superiority mission (that's the strategy):
PS. I'm not sure if Ukraine still HAS any army or air left, depending on whether the rules directly transfer the 4d6 I rolled as damage or whether there is some calculation that divide or subtract from the damage?

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74665
(A dice thread I started.)

Rolled 33 for naval offense mission with 9 navy.

Rolled 29 for air superiority mission with 10 air.

There's also 4 armies across the border, shelling Ukraine with artillery and fortifying defensively, but I don't think they get any action dice.
Nope, you didn't get it right.

You need to compare each d6's results to the table of action points.

roll 1 on d6 = 1 primary
roll 2 on d6 = 1 primary
roll 3 on d6 = 2 primary
roll 4 on d6 = 2 primary + 1 Secondary
roll 5 on d6 = 2 primary + 1 Secondary
roll 6 on d6 = 3 primary + 2 Secondary + 1 Tertiary

Using 9 navy and 10 Air an olling this:

military Spearhead: airforce 10 prime: Air strength second: Air Defence Tertiary: Naval bombing Navy 9 prime: Naval strength second: Naval Defence Tertiary: Naval bombing (1d6=1, 1d6=3, 1d6=5, 1d6=3, 1d6=2, 1d6=2, 1d6=1, 1d6=1, 1d6=6, 1d6=4, 1d6=4, 1d6=3, 1d6=4, 1d6=2, 1d6=2, 1d6=6, 1d6=2, 1d6=4, 1d6=2) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1522810/)



Air: 1,3,5,3,2,2,1,1,6,4
Navy:4,3,4,2,2,6,2,4,2
Referencing the tableyou get

Air: 16 Prime (air strength)/ 4 Secondary (air defence)/ 1 Tertiary (navy attack)
Navy: 15 Prime (navy strength)/ 6 Secondary (navy defence)/ 1 Tertiary (air attack)

Nukes are thus as follows:

Army nuke: (rolled a 6) 3 Prime/ 2 Second / 1 Tertiary
Air force nuke: (rolled a 3) 2 Prime
Army nuke: (rolled a 4) 2 Prime/ 1 second

------------------------
GM:

Sirens roar across the Ukraine as the entire EU nuclear arsenal is unloaded onto their territory.

Ukraine takes damage:
5 Army lost
2 Air lost
3 Economy lost (2nd)
1 Population lost (3rd)

Nuclear dust clouds appear and fallout spreads...threatening to cover EUROPE, TURKEY and EUROPEAN RUSSIA.

Radar systems all over the region detect EU ships and aircraft streaming towards the Ukraine.

All minors in the Balkan strongly condemn the EU for the use of Nuclear weapons. Greece and Cyprus Secede from the EU. Greek ships in the fleet leave EU as does their army (-1 navy, -1 army). The balkan nations are mobilizing their forces near the EU border.

(more to come)

[Nycthemeron]

The Crowned Republic of South Africa

+Incoming/Outgoing Summary
Wealth: +13 (1+6+6)
Trade Income: +10
Upkeep: -11 (55/5)

Total: +12


+Spending Summary
Economy +2 (6 points) [revised for global economic slowdown]
Technology +2 (4 points)
Space +1 (2 points)

Total: -12


+Spending Details

The South African government has been flexing its muscles, estimated economic expansion over the next five years is (50%), certainly a boom growth level for these depleted times. Government and private/public partnership projects to integrate the highest level of technology coming out of leading universities at home and abroad into the citizens lives are underway in several fields particularly healthcare and education, it is hoped that as a century ago labour saving devices improved the quality of life for millions the same will be true in this day and age. The Crown Republic Space Agency (CRSA) has also been expanded, a small but significant portion of the budget allocated in perpetuity to a project which the press have lambasted but the nation loves, 'One day the lights twinkling above us will be our own'.


+Trade Offer Summary

Nation (Give:Receive)
Swaziland 1:1
Lesotho 1:1
Namibia 1:1
Zimbabwe 2:2
Mozambique 2:2
Britain 2:2
Mexico 1:1
Ukraine 2:0


+Trade Offer Detail

Economist: South African trade has expanded in the last year, ttempting to stave off the crisis in central africa from reaching them, South africa has been desperately attempting to prop up the economies of many of its neighboring nations with mutually lucrative trade deals, they have also entered into a minor trade compact with CMJS, recognising their mutual goals of brining peace to troubled formerly exploited regions.

EDIT: In the wake of the nuclear assault on the Ukraine the South African government announced a large economic stimulus and humanitarian aid program for the nation and region.

+News and Diplomacy

Reuters: The South African representative on the Security Council has called an emergency meeting tabling a motion calling for a halt in the violence in Eastern Europe and for both sides to stand down their weapons to allow for a UN 'clean-up' and monitoring mission; UNSEMIEE (United Nations Security and Environmental Mission in Eastern Europe) whilst a diplomatic solution is sought.


AFP: The South African government today made appeals to the Commonwealth and the African Union to help bring peace to Africa by restoring financial aid and humanitarian projects. South Africa warned of growing extremism and unrest threatening both themselves and the global community if the situation persisted.


BBCworld: The Crowned Republic of South Africa said today in a statement that "Whilst the marginalised parties in Northern Ireland have legitimate grievances the way to air them is not through violence and terrorism, we support both the territorial integrity of the United Kingdom and the right to self determination of the Northern Irish people." Asked if he would support of referendum on the Northern Irish question South Africa's Ambassador to the UK, Dr. Nkosazana said that that was a purely a matter to be left up to the British government but that it seemed a sensible way to measure the popular feeling which in the past has always favoured Northern Ireland remaining part of the United Kingdom.

[Wizard of the Coat]

((I know Chernobyl differs from Hiroshima, but you just unloaded the entire EU arsenal... Think Hiroshima x approximately 500...and your risking a world war))

Trade with European minors to EU is stopped. EU loses 5 trade. (you had 7 unassigned trade last I checked)

Many Foreigners dead

Due to EETA trade talks any foreign diplomats have been killed in the Nuclear bombardment of the Ukraine. In addition virtually every mayor and medium power on the globe has suffered civilian casualties within the Ukraine, consulates have been wiped of the map, tourists were killed and lots more now face the problem that they cannot leave the ruined country.

Papacy is remarkably quiet.

Despite condemnations from almost all Orthodox, Anglican and numerous catholic bishops in the America's the Pope is rather quiet on the EUs actions. It is likely that if he doesn't act fast it could cause a schism within the Catholic Church.

Worldwide condemnation

Following the Balkan minors the EUs usage of nuclear weapons is widely condemned. The massive deaths of foreigners due to the immense bombardment without forewarning has rioters taking to the streets in nearly every country. Most minors are as such strongly condemning the EUs actions, but few would dare act without a power to rally behind.

@everyone but not EU
Kenya tells the security council members they would be willing to support sanctions on the EU.

Central Asian Pact (CAP)

Kazachstan and Pakistan strongly condemn the EU actions, they warn that any such action against them would result in an immediate retaliation.

@Australia and New Zealand

The prime minister of New Zealand feels that their independence serves them well. Likewise the population laughs of the Australian proposal. Clearly some leverage (money, invasion, etc...) is needed to make them see your side of the argument. Still they are willing to talk on defensive co-operation and opening trade for now. (make them a good offer to increase relations)


@Mexico

Use some espionage to find out about the rebel groups. There are many, but contact is difficult (espionage, strength 1 to succeed).

Your trade deals with minors are accepted. They are happy with the generous trade balance and lack of tarifs.

@Ukraine

The EETA proposal was welcomed by the minors, but the nuclear strike by the EU has managed to kill quite a few of the officials involved in the process. Diplomats from nearly all the invited minors have been killed.
Diplomatic intercepts state outrage at the EUs actions, most nations are mobilizing forces and will commit to defend Ukraine from further attack if need be. They fear they could be next. Still the EU is a potent force and securing help from another medium or mayor power would perhaps push them over the line of actually joining the fight directly.

@Argentina

The issue is one of social classes mostly, it seems the Native Americans feel the wealth is unjustly distributed and they still resent the Spanish populations that are in power. ((your government too is backed by the Spanish portions).

The revolutions would require a combination of weapons and/or money to succeed. You can secret these to the right rebel groups once you find them (espionage, strength 1 to succeed) and secretly give them to them (espionage, strength equal to money and weapons provided to succeed)

@EU

There are many christian nations in africa, if you want to send them weapons they will give 3 wealth for every 1 points of air/navy or military send to them. This is essentially blood money you are given by 'rebels' with no more legitimacy then the range of their guns. The 'real' governments will trade only 2 wealth for 1 point of military (essentially making it cost neutral). In either case you'd likely cause the violence to spread, but if given to Christian groups the cross will be spread by fire...

[Excelsior]

Pakistan Orders
Send 6 armies and 4 air to the EU by airlifts and ships to help protect their lands in return for technology aid and 5 space assets.

Pay upkeep and trade with minors across the world for 8 and spend it on 4 armies.

[Wizard of the Coat]

Pakistan Orders
Send eight armies to the EU by airlifts and ships to help protect their lands in return for technology aid and 5 space assets.

((you might first want to say hello in the recruiting thread...and get a reply there))

Also...
also you might want to contact the EU player about such a deal. A PM or a spoiler ed post addressing him would be nice.

Space assets and technology are non transferable, they are launch installations and the amount of computers on people's desks and such. You might be able to get wealth from them or have them perform launches on your behalf or otherwise ask them to give you all their research data they accumulate

[Nerd-o-rama]

The Federal Republic of Ukraine declares war on the European Union! Obviously!

Meanwhile, in a speech to the United Nations, Ukraine's delegate delivers an impassioned speech condemning the European Union's unprovoked, full-scale nuclear assault on his homeland over what he termed "a minor diplomatic disagreement." Excerpts follow:

"This is completely insane!" exclaimed the delegate at one point. "Our nation may never recover from this cowardly assault. We call upon the UN to immediately remove the EU from the Security Council, and for all freedom-loving nations of the world to condemn them, and join our fight against this obvious prelude to invasion..."

"...This sort of attack is unprecedented in the history of the world, even among the most insane dictatorships! Their careless use of nuclear weapons has not only killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian civilians, but the fallout from the attack threatens the entire western world! All this because Ukraine dared speak out in favor of an independence movement!"

At one point, the delegate even broke down in tears, revealing that he hadn't spoken to his wife or children since the attacks and, in the confusion, didn't yet know whether they were alive or dead.


The Federal Republic's surviving military forces are currently mostly occupied with controlling the panicking population and helping to herd civilians away from the fallout zones. Military action will follow in my next post.

[El_Frenchie]

Indonesia

News Broadcast: Cold Feet for Indonesia?

Indonesian leaders are yet to reveal their stance considering Taiwan's newly proposed independent state.

Atom war in Europe!!

The actions of Europe against Ukraine have been condemned by Indonesian authorities. Indonesia asks for a damage budget from both Europe and Ukraine. Indonesia urges the Security Council to override Europe's veto and act on the matter.

The Speaker for Indonesia, Authorities representative:

"Have we ever resorted to the use of nuclear weapons since World War II? During the Cold War, Russia and the USA were sensible enough to avoid it. It seems that Europe has decided to forget about tradition and past deals, and exercises its nuclear power on lesser nations.

After the development of the atom bomb, there was a general consensus that prevented anyone from using it. That the atom was a dissuasive element rather than a weapon in itself after we saw the damage caused on both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We have seen the horrors of a nuclear Holocaust on the civilian population when Tchernobyl put Europe under its cloud of radiation.

It seems the incidents aren't enough to deter the senseless European government. Years later, when its own historians condems the acts, it uses the atom against secessionists. Diplomats killed, thousands of innocent civilians, butchered in the blast. Thousands more will die from the radiation. Europe itself will suffer from it.

Indonesia has lost a number of tourists in Ukraine. We will do everything in our power that no such atrocity will ever occur again. This is a promise. A promise to the people that are rioting in the streets. This will not go unchecked."

Indonesia has then sent propositions of sanctions to the UN council: Among the sanctions include the complete dismantlement of all the EU nuclear arsenal.

Japan, GM

Indonesia would like to trade with Japan for 5 points worth. If Japan has less than the current ratio, Indonesia is willing to consider military options, or/and financial/political agreements. It would like to discuss sanctions for the EU.

Australia, GM

Indonesia is trading 5 points worth with Australia. (5/5 ratio, right?) It would also additionally like to discuss sanctions for the EU.

China, GM

Indonesia would be interested in trading 5 points worth in a 5/5 ratio with China. It would also like to discuss sanctions for the preposterous EU usage of Nuclear Weapons. It would also be glad to seal a deal for a bigger return ratio, in return for which they would provide support, against the independence of Taiwan.

[Nerd-o-rama]

"Voting to recognize a nation's sovereignty is not an act of war, you lunatic!"
-Vasyl Dzubenko, Prime Minister of Ukraine, from an Undisclosed Location.

[Wizard of the Coat]

((quick primer on the UN: The UN is the collective vote of all member states (doesn't have powers of it's own), only combined action in the Security Council and General Assembly could lead to the EU losing their French permanent eat. And remember that they can veto it... Of course if all except the EU decide the EU has crossed the line too far, then of course it's easy for them all to leave and set up a new united nations without France in the security council. Whilst technically not legal it is an option. Still a vote in the General Assembly might be able to over-rule the security council on certain issues, such as membership...if somehow successful. (officially it cannot, but in the past it has succeeded once or twice) ))

@Indonesia: The EU has just dismantled it's own nuclear arsenal...even if be it by dropping it on Ukraine. (just a minor note I found amusing)

[Nerd-o-rama]

@Russia, Britain, USA, Canada, Turkey, all European Minor Powers and, why the hell not, Switzerland
The leadership of the European Union has clearly gone mad, as their nuclear attack on our homeland shows. I know that some, perhaps all, of you have formed an alliance with them for mutual defense. Nonetheless, this craven assault cannot stand and I implore you, if you have any remaining sense of decency or liberty, to join me in paying them back for this atrocity.

[El_Frenchie]

Indonesia

Here follows a short summary from Indonesian authorities:

Proposed EU Sanctions include:

1. Trade Blockade.

2. Dismantlement of Nuclear Launch Sites.
3. Dismantlement of Nuclear Nukes production Lines.
4. Expatriation of a number of European Nuclear physicists.

5. Security Council veto revoked.
6. UN approval of Greek Independence.
7. UN forces intervention in Ukraine.

[Nerd-o-rama]

In my earlier post, I forgot to report Ukraine's pleas for civilian aid in getting food, water, and basic services for its scores of thousands of displaced civilians. Which is rather important, so I should mention it now.

[Nycthemeron]

AP, Cape Town, South Africa: South Africa today joined the vanguard of the international community by recognising both the newly formed Greek and Taiwanese governments. Her Majesty Queen Diana accredited ambassadors to both the new nations. The South African Foreign office has dispatched one of the nation's top environmentalists Dr. J. Matimba to Athens whilst a career diplomat Ms. W. Nhlapo has been moved from ambassador to Thailand to Taiwan to be replaced in Bangkok by a promotion from within the Embassy there.

South Africa's ambassador to the European Union has been recalled "in protest against the unprovoked, unnecessary, reckless and UN-mandateless use of WMD against the Ukraine without even an attempt at a Diplomatic solution," whilst the Ambassador to China is reported as having called for a highest-level meeting with the Chinese government to reassure them that recognition of Taiwan does not constitute an assault on China's territorial integrity. Prince George has returned to Cape Town with his children, his wife, the crown Princess of Sweden is reportedly remaining in Stockholm.


Reuters, Praetoria, South Africa: The South African Army today raised their alert level to prepare for an immediate deployment whilst the SARAF (South African Royal Air Force) and SARN (South African Royal Navy) have been engaging in maneuvers over international waters in the neighborhood of those countries most affected by the current level of unrest in Central Africa. SAMC3 (South Africa Military Command, Communication and Co-ordination) stated that these were routine manoevers designed to keep the Crowned Republic's armed forces in condition to support the legitimate governments to which South Africa and the International Community have committed their support.


Channel Africa, Praetoria, South Africa: The South African President today announced that the Chinese trade mission in progress had been cancelled to provide economic aid to the devastated Ukraine. SARAF pilots will be co-ordinating with the International Red Cross and Red Crescent to provide unarmed humanitarian aid whilst economic reconstruction packages are being assembled even now.


[ooc: spoilers for space purposes]

@China
We don't seek to assault your sovereignty at all, merely recognise an established fact of a century of self-determination in line with the UN charter. Our trade cancellation is a humanitarian effort and we would be eager to trade further with you in the near future.

@EU
We are withdrawing our ambassador to the Union in protest for your unprovoked Nuclear attack on the Ukraine.

@Ukraine
A 2:0 trade deal from my spares is going to you now.

@ South and South-Central African Minors
Any and all support, diplomatic, economic and military is available to those who request it of us, South Africa is committed to supporting your governments and people and protecting our investments in a more prosperous and peaceful Africa.

@GM
Providing 2 Trade to the Ukraine for free from the last of my two spares.

[Excelsior]

Allah Akhbar! God is great! Death to the Infidels! Now that you have depleted your weapons of doom Pakistan will weigh in! Europe shall be cleansed of all evil and Islam shall reach across the Danube and Seinen again! You will choke on radioactive dust as we, the unconquerable whom you have stepped on from the age of Isaac, rise in finality!

Allah will destroy them all in one night! Strike as you may, your efforts are futile. The people of Ishmael will grasp their inheritance!

You foolish people who believe in three gods, you will fall!
You godless unbelievers, you filthy semites! You shall all fall!
Though you may destroy one nation in response, many more shall rise up against your cowardice!

Tonight, ARMAGEDDON dines with Sem and Jafet!

NUCLEAR ATTACK

Ukraine, Target: Population
4: 2 Primary effect, 1 Seconday
1: 1 Primary effect
= 3 Primary effect, 1 Secondary

Bulgaria, Target: Population
3: 2 Primary effect
= 2 Primary effect

Romania, Target: Population
4: 2 Primary effect, 1 Secondary
= 2 Primary effect, 1 Secondary

Greece, Target: Population
1: 1 Primary Effect
= 1 Primary Effect

Israel, Target: Population
6: 3 Primary, 2 Secondary, 1 Tertiary
5: 2 Primary, 1 Secondary
= 5 Primary, 3 Secondary, 1 Tertiary

East Timor, Target: Population
5: 2 Primary, 1 Secondary
= 2 Primary, 1 Secondary

[Nycthemeron]

We the South African Government beg the Pakistani authorities to reconsider their actions and delay this announced Nuclear strike.

Please for the sake of all of us, restrain your wrath.

[Eldan]

Japan budget for the new government period: A strong Nation has a strong Economy!

12 Economy
4 Tech
2 Civil
2 Space
2 Spy

The Parliament announced today an entire host of new measures to improve the growth of the Japanese Economy, which had suffered from low growth rates in the last few years.
-Japanese companies will no longer have to pay custom duties and taxes on any imports or exports. These will also be significantly reduced for foreign enterprises.
-New-founded companies with new and original business ideas will have the option to aqcuire interest free loans with a duration of three years, when they are able to present their idea to a council of experts.
-Investors investing in the japanese industry or banks will profit from especially low property taxes during this five year period.

To handle this additional administration efforts, the government will be slowly expanded and restructurated, to make it both larger and more efficient.

Trade
Indonesia 5-5
Argentina 3-3
Brazil 5-5
South-east asian minors (those mentioned in the OOC): 4-4

The Taiwan issue
A speaker of the parliament announced that while Japan wishes to support the Taiwanese people if they desire independence, the government would also like to state that they would prefer a peaceful solution and would not be in the position to interfere with it's military if the conflict should escalate.
Japan offers it's services as a mediator, should one be needed.

Public Outrage over nuclear bombardment
Hundreds of thousands of angry protesters filled Japans streets today, waving transparents reading "REMEMBER HIROSHIMA!" and "NEVER AGAIN!".
The Shogun personally annouced that he condemns the unprovoked European nuclear strike against it's weaker neighbour.
"We will make sure that Europe will never trade with Japan again.", Tokugawa said with a grim expression.
"This is a crime that can never be undone."

[Nerd-o-rama]

So, uh, am I out of the game for 0 population? Have the EU and their Pakistani hirelings succeeded where Nazi death camps and Soviet cultural pogroms failed? Tune in next GM post, I guess...

[LongVin]

Income:

25 Income from Wealth
6 Trade income
23 upkeep(115/5)

Spending:
Civil: 2 points
Economy: 2 points
Tech: 2 points
(2 points unspent for now)

---------------------

Attention Everyone: U.S. seeks trade

The United States is looking to expand its trade networks with the nations of the world. We are looking to establish close ties with more nations of the world to our mutual beneficial.

@GM:The United States is also going to promote trade with NPC nations.

Response to Hispanic Movement:
The United States has activated the National Guard in the southern border states to police these protests and protect them from escalating. Guard units are also being placed along the Mexican border to prevent illegal border crossings.

Attention Canada:

The United States is very interested in establishing stronger relations with our culturally similar neighbor to the north.

[Wizard of the Coat]

@ Pakistan

Several seconds after the Pakistani president/caliph/sultan/whateverheiscalledin2050 orders the nuclear strike he hears a gunshot and it feels warm. The general that just shot him holsters his pistol and takes his seat. His first act as the new dictator general of Pakistan will be to undo the orders of the last president. Fortunatly the Pakistani army is very loyal to it's commanders and all the orders are reverted.

A broadcast to the world:

"Dear leaders of the world,

My predecessor had a bout of insanity when he was willing to destroy Allah's creation. Certainly no true follower of Islam would ever consider such an act. As such Pakistan will join the ranks of the peacefull and continue it's co-operation with central asian nations to ensure such things do not happen to us."

((OOC: Excelsior you have been eliminated... No Pakistani nukes ever went off, no holdings were transferred.))

((OOC: to others, I'm sorry, but I am not going to allow random people jumping in just to nuke everything...the actions of Pakistan were just too random and as such warranted a random response.))

[Moechi_Vill]

"The EU officially apologizes for the civilian casualties in Ukraine. While it is too late to withdraw our naval troops and aircraft from their operations, we will conclude a withdrawal to our bases after this set of operations and hope for the arrival of peacekeepers."

OOC: I didn't mean to apologize for attacking you Nerd-O-Rama, just for ruining your fun and being a bit paranoid. ;) I regret nothing! That said, I IC hope to not fight any longer. Good luck rebuilding and having your revenge.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Federal Republic of Ukraine

Revised Statline (Turn 1)

Army 2/Navy 5/Air 5/Space 3/Population 1/Economy 4/Resources 6/Spy 4/Tech 7/Civil 7/Nuclear 0/Defenses 0
Total 44/Wealth 11/Power 16/Social 17

Revised Spending Summary (Turn 1)

Wealth: +11 (1+4+6)
Trade Income: +11 (Global Free Trade for first turn)
Upkeep: -8 (44/5)
Total: +14

Army: +3 (6 points)
Air: +2 (4 points)
Population: +1 (2 points)
Economy: +1 (2 points)
Total: -14

Revised Spending Details (Turn 1)

In the wake of the nuclear strike by the European Union, the Federal Republic of Ukraine has instituted martial law and a compulsory draft among citizens still fit to fight. In addition, the nation's defense production was left largely untouched, so new T-86 Main Battle Tanks and AN-64 fighter/bombers continue to roll off assembly lines as the nation gears up for retaliation.

Due to rapid implementation of martial law, the government has evacuated most of the populace from fallout zones and implemented a food rationing system that has proven effective for the moment. An outpouring of charity aid and the fact that the manufacturing industry stayed mostly intact has also helped stave off the worst effects on the national economy.

Updated Trade Agreements (Turn 1)

Nation (Give:Receive)
Russia (4:4) Confirmed
Belarus (1:1) NPC
Romania (1:1) NPC
Bulgaria (1:1) NPC
Balkan Minors (1:1) NPC
Baltic Minors (1:1) NPC
Turkey (4:4) Confirmed
South Africa (0:2) Confirmed (Humanitarian Aid)
Switzerland (0:1) Confirmed (Humanitarian Aid)

EDIT: See later post.

Military action declarations pending...don't move on without them.


GM Eyes Only
Using 4 points of Espionage to provoke a diplomatic incident between the EU and Russia...say, sabotaging an EU radar station so that an EU bomber with a nuclear payload violates Kaliningrad airspace.

Primary: Cover-Up
Secondary: Strength of Action
Tertiary: Extra benefits.

4d6
EDIT: Forgot the stupid freaking cannot enter rolls in edits rule. Here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4044139&postcount=7) are my rolls in the dice thread.

9 Primary
4 Secondary
1 Tertiary

[Irbis]

Russia, Inc.

To the eyes of mr. President, only:

Report of All-Russian Trade Commitee:

Trade:

Canada: 7
EU: 9
Turkey: 5
Britain: 5
Ukraine: 4

Total: 30

[Note to Chairwoman: Fire that idiot that approved that. Now!]

Report of Ministry of Finance Spokesman:

After upkeep: 12 wealth.

So, 42 [30+12] points spent on: 15 economy, 3 nuclear, 2 tech and 1 civil.

That is, we will finally replace the rest of out obsolete infrastructure, such as the Transsiberian railroad being upgraded to maglev train, which shold reduce travelling time from two weeks to two day, infinitely increasing its economical attractiveness and significance, especially considering high-tech exports from Japan and China, that will be transported almost as fast as on the plane, for fraction of the cost; new electric, domestically produced cars being subsidied; or free, high-speed holonet wireless transmitters being installed in every mayor city, replacing the old soviet-style copper cables as means of communication; Investments will also be made in our high-tech sector, both nuclear and rocketry ones, which will allow them to fund new research projects, and a major overhaul of police forces will began.

[Note to self: our market and economical shares aren't going up fast enough. Maybe I should ask GRU to make a little crisis to slow our opponents down? Also: sell that Dacha (Villa) in Yalta. Nobody will want it, though.]

Special International Affairs Committee:

We are in a deep **** right now.

[Really, Einsteins?]

Report of current diplomatic operations [our stances]:

Armenian Conflict:
We will do everything to stop that conflict, but as we are busy right now, we will give you a chance to close the matters peacifully. Turn down that offer, and we WILL intervene, as soon as the matter on the west is dealt with.
CAP:
If you want to do that, join EAST. Russia will not tolerate any potential antagonist on her borders. We reserve right to act according to how severe threat from you will be; and to any minor nations in the area: You have a viable alternative. We strongly suggest using it, for your sake.
Africa:
As Russia has the greatest stockpile of preserved equipment, from simple T-55 tanks [with upgraded engines and weapons, as we can make them better now than they were when designed] to modern Su-55 fighters we will offer our merchandise to anyone we feel can be our close ally, especially legitimate governments.
UN Statement:

Anyone who even thinks about using one more missile or other WMD anywhere near Russia's borders should think twice, because he won't get a third chance. I'm putting all strategical forces, be it bombers, trains, or submarines on high level of readiness. Not war level, mind you, but we are ready to use it now at the first warning.
And to stop the current crisis before it escalates to unmanageable size I have ordered certain measures that should contain the situation and stabilize it.
I won't waste my words on condemning anyone, as it will be vetoed anyway and I hate idle chatter.

Report of current military operations:

Arctic Shield
Semi-secret
Obviously, arming all nuclear missiles, trains [ICBM on a train - since Russia has hundreds of thousands of kilometers of railways, a mobile launcher on those is almost impossible to intercept before it launches - we don't station anything in silos, too easy to destroy] and submarines, deploying from their bases, both carriers with their combat groups [one in the far east, one in Murmansk] and all submarines, both conventional and nuclear leaving port, bombers being dispersed on secondary airfields, etc, etc, to be ready at any time. Also, raising the readiness state of all fighters and interceptors to war-levels, to be ready for intercepting ballistic missiles and enemy bombers. All other forces, heightened readiness levels.
Arctic Fox
Ukraine, mostly:
Two armored divisions with the new T-115 MBT's from nearby garrisons will be ordered into Ukraine; they are to blitz through it and stop at the Ukrainian-EU border, creating a buffer between both sides, acting as de facto UN peacekeeping forces, as we cannot pass that in UN council, or any condemning resolution for that matter. Six Mechanized divisions are to follow them the next day; engineering brigades of each division will be ordered to repair any bridge/road/tunnel/whatever they can along the way but they shouldn't linger for too long. in total, 8 divisions [6 points of land] should reach the border giving humanitarian aid whenever possible on the sixth day of the operation; as they have full NBC protection, they should be fine. Resistance from Ukrainian forces should be minimal and besides, we already have handed them ultimatum concerning right of passage. Civilian forces capable of dealing with natural disasters will be offered, too, and airlifted to any intact runway capable of receiving heavy transport planes.

Report of current GRU and FSB operations [espionage]:

Rolls: http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1523173/ [in order, 6d6 per operation]

Tempest [6 spy]
GM only! Cover: 12 Strength: 5 Extra Benefits: 2

Moldavia - Specnaz teams from GRU, posing as Romanian-speaking minority and EU agents [in fact, they will have western papers and will be chosen only from soldiers fluent in other languages, as they cannot even show the knowledge of Russian on this one] will began terrorizing the Russian-speaking majority; as these aren't simple terrorists, they should deal easily with local police forces. Their targets will also include prominent politicians [but only these that don't like Russia very much, or these who like, but are unimportant] and will spread leaflets rallying Romanians to rise in uprising and secede from Moldavia. Each specnaz team will be given Hero of Federation Gold Star, the highest award, if they succeed; it they are killed or captured, they cannot count on our support. They are western agents, anyway, not ours. They will be given some misleading, forged documents they will occasionally lose [especially when killed/captured] showing preparations to much larger operation against Moldavia being prepared.
Whirlwind [6 spy]
GM only! Cover: 13 Strength: 6 Extra Benefits: 2

Belarus - Specnaz teams posing as Polish/German/French specforces soldiers deep-raiding it's territory will do the same as above, but it will be the Polish minority this time, and it will look like preparations to EU military action.
Rainbow [6 spy]
GM only! Cover: 11 Strength: 4 Extra Benefits: -
Russia will offer Armenia note proposing "lending" soldiers [as instructors and pilots], and vehicles [unmarked, of course] from our base in the region [which should be unnoticeable; we use the same weapons, anyway] if the government is willing to become a closer ally after the conflict and join the EAST after annexing their enemy - [support will be 2 points of land worth, if they agree]. Also, in the same operation, elite Specnaz teams recruited from Caucasian Highlanders will be dropped in the region, posing as soldiers/sympathetics of both sides. Their target: to make conflict a bit more hot, by terrorizing both soldiers and populace alike in hit and run missions. Fake leads, languages etc. as in above operations. Given how poorly trained are their opponents that shouldn't be difficult.

What these should accomplish? Simply, we have a base in every country targeted, so we want their governments asking us for help and increased presence in these bases, in return of some concessions. Also, an atmosphere of panic will be discreetly increased by any unofficially Russian-owned tv, radio station or mayor newspaper in these [and neighboring] countries. The more crying for help against scary EU will come to us, the better.

[Moody the Wise]

Ernesto Guevara II Addresses UN General Assembly

Spoilered because it's huge, but everyone can and should read it

I would first like to commend Indonesia for being the first to step forward in condemning the EU's actions and proposing sanctions. However, I feel as though the Indonesian proposal does not go far enough. To remind everyone, the Indonesian proposal was as follows:

1. Trade Blockade.

2. Dismantlement of Nuclear Launch Sites.
3. Dismantlement of Nuclear Nukes production Lines.
4. Expatriation of a number of European Nuclear physicists.

5. Security Council veto revoked.
6. UN approval of Greek Independence.
7. UN forces intervention in Ukraine.

On the first point I agree wholeheartedly: we must call upon all responsible nations to immediately cease trade with the EU. There is yet time to negotiate trade deals to replace those that were in effect with the EU. While there still exist conscientious nations on this Earth, we cannot in good faith support a leader who makes unilateral nuclear strikes without warning; if we allow trade to continue with the EU and the income from it funds the reconstruction of the EU nuclear arsenal, none of us will be able to live with ourselves.

On the second and third points, I would add that UN inspectors be mandated to monitor the EU such that any attempts to construct nuclear weaponry or the equipment or facilities related to nuclear weaponry may be known immediately and prevented.

On the fourth point, I would reject the idea of forced expatriation of nuclear physicists. I do not believe Indonesia called for this, but the resolution was unclear, and I would like to make it clear. The UN is not in the business of mandating the movements of people based on their occupations. However, I would rewrite this proposal to state that the UN will fully support the right of EU citizens who are outraged by their government's actions to emigrate, and will tolerate no interference by the EU in the freedom of their people.

On the fifth point, I would not only remove the EU's veto power, but abolish its Security Council seat entirely. A government that has such blatant disregard for the diplomatic process has no right to sit on the United Nations Security Council.

As for the Indonesian propositions six and seven, I would remove them from this resolution. They are important issues, but this is a resolution of punitive measures against the government of the EU; the rest can be decided in other resolutions.

We stand at a defining moment in the history of the United Nations. Will we allow a massive unilateral nuclear strike by a country once considered worthy of a seat on the Security Council to go unpunished, or will we stand firm to our core principles of peace and prosperity through mutli-lateral action?

@Wizard and EVERYONE

I am formally calling for a vote on this resolution by the UN General Assembly. All player-Nations, please post with your nation's vote, and, if you'd like, an impassioned speech supporting your position. Wizard, please post how the various non-player voting members respond.

[nothingclever]

18wealth total-13upkeep=5
global free trade is 8+9=17
Total wealth=22

Spending
+7 to Air
+4 to Economy

Australia has planned to increase its military power for several years and the sudden unexpected use of nuclear weapons on Ukraine has caused it to put these plans into action immediately.

Robert Daniels assures his people that now more than ever they are in need of their armed forces and military spending.

Since Australia is a waterlocked country and refuses to use nuclear weapons Robert has decided to invest heavily in completely restructuring and improving its air force.

He has also given businesses more freedom and funding to start up in Australia. Entrepreneurs are invited to immigrate freely and are promised government support if they do not have enough money of their own in return for shares in their businesses.

In addition Australia is opening its boarders to immigrants from Europe such as the Ukrainians who no longer feel safe in their homeland. Any wealthy, skilled or influential people will be immediately let in and have all their needs accommodated.

Technology
All 13 points in tech will currently be used to invent superior aircraft.

Australia is pooling all its greatest minds together to create the most advanced military aircraft possible. Main areas of research are creating lighter building materials, miniaturizing current systems and increasing speed and durability at a safe rate.

Another major focus is creating the best stealth bombers.

To New Zealand
Australia continues to urge that New Zealand take its offer to join because of the recent nuclear attack. Robert cannot guarantee that New Zealand can be protected from incoming attacks without its full cooperation. He also states to leader of New Zealand that his country is a liability to Australia's protection from potential invaders because if it is taken over it could be used as an outpost for further attacks. If it is attacked Australia may be forced to occupy it to protect its own freedom and New Zealand's. Robert says he is confident in Australia's greatly improved military and says he cannot say the same for New Zealand and its leader must concede his country is vulnerable to attack as it is now.

To world leaders from Robert Daniels, Prime Minister of Australia
I strongly disagree with the action EU has taken and I wish to help the Ukrainians by welcoming them to Australia.

It is unfortunate to know that my nation's trade with the EU has helped fund this attack which I feel is equivalent to a blatant act of terrorism. However, I cannot immediately withdraw my trade agreements with it because they represent nearly one third of my countries total trade and doing so would cause a serious blow to Australia's economy which would make me unable to help the displaced people of Europe and my own.

If this situation continues to escalate I may be forced to withdraw trade but I cannot do so now as my nation's bankruptcy would no doubt lead to further global deterioration in one way or another.

I do believe the EU, with its vast economic wealth, should seek to pay Ukraine reparations for the damage they caused. It can never replace all the lives that were lost but I believe it is not much to ask for the EU to make payments over several years to help rebuild Ukraine's economy.

[Moody the Wise]

@Wizard: Is there a point during the turn at which one's budget needs to be fixed and posted here?

edit: Also @Wizard: Is it too late to renegotiate trade deals for the second turn? We're only about a seventh of the way into the first turn. That is, if nations that have trade deals for turn 2 with the EU cancel them, do they still have time to negotiate new deals for turn 2?

Tentative Budget for UCA, 2051-2055

2 Wealth to raise Spy by 1
2 Wealth to raise Pop by 1
4 Wealth to raise Eco by 2
6 Wealth to raise Tech by 3
2 Wealth to raise Civil by 1

[Fluff on that to come] edit: Here cometh the fluff.

A convention of the UCA National Congress has approved a budget for the fiscal period 2051-2055. An eighth of the budget will go to an expansion of the UCA's covert agencies, creating a new branch dedicated to foreign grassroots organizing. An additional eighth will be used to expand the nation's healthcare systems, with the intent to raise population. A fourth of the budget will be devoted to expansion of government industries to take full advantage of projected trade goods. The largest portion of the budget, at three eighths, will be directed to increasing the nation's tech levels, bringing the most cutting edge civilian technology to more and more of the population, and funding additional research universities. Finally, the last eighth of the budget will be used to fund an expansion of the bureaucratic sector in anticipation of the ever-increasing difficulty of managing a large nation.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Ukraine votes for Mr. Guevara's resolution in the UN General Assembly, and for the sake of doing so, proposes a similar resolution to the Security Council, if only to bureaucratically confuse the EU's veto power.

The Ukrainian military makes no move to stop the Russian peacekeeping forces and accepts their aid in border defense. There are a few near-incidents due to inexperienced draftees and shakiness in the Federal Republic C&C structure, but nothing of import. The army as a whole cooperates with the Federation in securing the western border.

Ukraine has also accepted Federation Inc.'s offer of civilian humanitarian aid.

With international support growing, the Verkhovna Rada has delivered an ultimatum to the European Union, demanding the following:

That Moeris Villera and all members of the European Union Strategic Command resign their positions and submit themselves to an international court of law for war crimes trials.
That the European Union pay reparations in the form of 26 points of wealth over a time period later to be decided.
Full cooperation and technological aid from the EU in containing and repairing the damage done to the Ukrainian lands by radiation
A formal apology for the whole unprovoked attack, not simply the collateral damage.
All of the terms listed in the UN Resolution, including but not limited to permanently resigning their UN Security Council position, dismantling any and all WMD production lines and submitting to indefinite probation from ever creating them, and accepting trade sanctions.

Failure to submit to these conditions will result in military action by the Federal Republic of Ukraine against EU interests.

[Maldiem]

Life in a Globalized, Free-Market world, while much better than the feudal and aristocratic systems that preceded it, resembles the Hobbesian state of nature. That world's focus on individual power and unending desire for new wealth has resulted in the the life of the individual (and the peaceful nation) being solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and, above all, short. Through cooperation we elevated ourselves from animal levels, and it is only through cooperation that we can remove ourselves from the sphere of petty conflict entirely.
--"Claro y Simple" (The Movement Informational Pamphlet)

Confederación Mexicano para Justicio Social

CMJS Comdemns EU Use of Nuclear Weapons, Demands Immediate Withdrawal of EU from Ukraine

"This callous disregard for human life is inexcusable. That this allegedly Christian government would so blatantly ignore one of its most important rules, 'Thou Shalt Not Kill', exposes it as nothing more than the insane power-monger than it truly is. We join the international community in calling for an immediate EU withdrawal from the Ukraine, and for the leaders responsible for this terrible atrocity to be tried by an international tribunal."
-Official Statement from the National Legislature Committee of Foreign Affairs

CMJS in the UN

The CMJS representative votes in favor of the resolution proposed by the delegate from Argentina. She further proposes another two resolutions:

1) UN recognition of the newly-independent Greece and Cyprus.
2) A UN Coalition to remove the EU from the Ukraine, and depose the regime responsible for this completely unnecessary bloodshed, should it not heed the condemnation of the international community.

Re: Australian Defense Expertise on New Zealand

"The CMJS would like to thank Despot Daniels for pointing out the military weakness of New Zealand. It is a model democracy with an unusual amount of regard (at least, in a capitalist nation) for the welfare of its citizens, and we certainly wouldn't want to see it threatened. Those of us fortunate enough to have a strong military have a duty to protect those of us who do not, and it is surprisingly forward-thinking of Daniels to offer to protect his neighbors."

"Still, there is definitely no need to occupy New Zealand by any party for any reason. However, to allay Daniel's fears of an invasion being launched from an occupied New Zealand, the CMJS would like to formally propose a mutual protection pact with New Zealand. Should any foreign power move on New Zealand, it would of course fall to us to safeguard their freedom. We also call upon our ALPHA allies to make a similar pledge, to make sure that there is no need for conflict in the South Pacific."
-Official Statement from the National Legislature Committee of Foreign Affairs

EDIT: See most recent budget post for real budget.
Tentative Budget for 2051-2055
Wealth: 19
Upkeep: 13
Trade: 16
Net after trade: 22
(see below for description of spending)
+2 to population
+5 to Economy
+2 to Civil
+2 to Tech
Total: 22 spent

Provincial Legislatures Announce Completely Open Borders

Nearly all of the provinces have opened their borders to any sort of immigration from any country, with citizenship being freely granted to anyone who wants it. Additionally, an advertising campaign is launched worldwide about the professional and educational opportunities in the CMJS, and monetary and lease incentives are given to highly-qualified professionals that decide to emigrate to Mexico. Particular attention is given to material scientists, chemists, nanotechnologists, doctors and electrical engineers.

Socialized Childcare Now Operational

The CMJS has set up a country-wide system of boardinghouses and schools, that aims to allow any child to become a ward of the state and live a happy, well-cared for life. The aim here is to boost the birth rate by eliminating the abortion rate, because caring for the child will become a nonissue. The funding also allows a stipend for potential parents to pay for a child they may be considering regardless of their means, so material resources do not get in the way of family planning.

((Both of these are accounting for the population increase))

CMJS To Become Latin-American Powerhouse

Several Provinces have voted to allocate large amounts of production to the construction of Nuclear, Geothermal and Tidal power plants, though the main focus is on Nuclear power. The CMJS makes sure that this is strictly for non-military purposes, and invites UN weapons inspectors to all of its construction sites. They also begin construction of huge electrical vehicle, motor and industrial equipment manufacturing plants, with the aim to make the CMJS completely independent of fossil fuel in the next five to ten years.

((Spending on economy is almost entirely directed at this))

CMJS moves toward the Transparent Society

The National Legislature passed a measure to require all legislators, provincial commanders and all levels of government operatives (with the minor exception of the CMJS Intelligence Agency, which is only outlined broadly) to monthly declare their actions, policies and spending online. The archives are available for all to see, and the citizens are encouraged to look over them should they have an issue with a representative. A hotline is established to handle allegations of wrongdoing, and a judicial organization is created to handle them.

((Spending on Civil))

Major Overhaul, Expansion of Higher Education

The CMJS university system is seeing a major remodeling, as the stuffy older system is replaced with a new system which focuses on innovation and learning-by-doing. The old system of lectures and study is still there, of course, but work-study activities are now strictly mandatory in the industrial sector, which is possible because the state runs both the schools and the factories. New funding pours in, though it is shunted mostly toward the hard sciences and engineering departments, but some does end up in the humanities. Grants are handed out freely for ideas that seem reasonable, and this is used to synergize with the CMJS's attempt to attract foreign expertise.

(Spending on Tech)

@Wizard:
((Uh. Rolls didn't work. Trying again in the next post, and sorry about the flooding.))

Cover X

Espionage check to find out which African groups are CMJS-leaning in ideology and closet-skeleton-less
[roll0]

Cover Y

Counter-espionage roll for the CMJS (strength primary, Cover not possible), 3 points spent.
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]

[viggo]

WizCoat: Let me know what I need to roll for this.


"In an emergency session of the Turkish Central Precinct Council today, a diplomatic condemnation of European Union action against Ukraine was unanimously passed. However, trade will still continue with the aggressor power. "We have a long history of foreigners attempting to violate the sovereignty of our nation by supporting independence of various groups. Ukraine's actions, in our mind, were a declaration of war. We do not, however, support the use of nuclear weapons against them.

Any Ukrainian civilian may freely immigrate to Turkey, after proper medical care is distributed and only if all the proper paperwork is in order. Governments should not endanger their populace.

In a brokered deal today, Turkey supports Armenian claims in the conflict with Azerbaijan in exchange for a quieting of the Kurdish minority. The Kurdish people will also get an extra seat on the Central Precinct Council, up for review in 1 year.

Greek independence from the EU will not be tolerated. Cyprus is sovereign Turkish territory. Since the massive increase in Greek nationalism can only be seen as a threat to Turkey, we are forced to declare war on Greece. We have no designs for Greek homeland territory, but Cypriot Greeks have two weeks to depart for safer climes.

Several military detachments were sent out from Turkey today. 2 were placed under the command of European Union generals. Veto power for their actions still rests in domestic hands. Another 2 are ready for Ukrainian peacekeeping operations. 4 were sent to Cyprus to secure the ancient Turkish control of the island.


Business for the turn:

Trade
4:4 EU
4:4 Ukraine
4:4 Russia

Wealth ++24, full upkeep --13, total spendable ==26, 13 stat boosts

2 to Social, brokered deal with Armenians and Kurds should stop any sabre-rattling. Also, Kurdish history is now required curriculum alongside Turkish and Armenian history in schools. It will be phrased as unified history rather than individual to bring everyone closer together. Statues of Armenian and Kurdish leaders will be raised outside the capital in Ankara, as well as in key tourist areas along the Black Sea and Mediterranean.

4 to Army, raising total to 14. These units will be specially trained in nation-building techniques -- policing, distributing resources, languages, et cetera. One of these specifically will be trained from Armenian troops for the actions in Armenia.

2 to Population. Radiation treatment centers will be quickly built to handle the fallout from the EU nuclear attack, as well as an aggressive immunization program (similar to the United States' style, I'm not even sure what they all are). These crisis health centers will also include information on fertility, how to effectively handle extra children, and lots of religious propaganda -- "go forth and multiply" along with a smattering of Maoist philosophy "the way to survive in the nuclear era is to have a massive population."

5 to Economy. 1 of this will go to education, identifiying the youngest and smartest children and putting them in intensified educational programs. Another 1 will go to scholarship programs for these children if they are unable to afford universities. An aggressive exchange program will also be established, focusing primarily on the most effective economic nations -- the United States, Japan, Germany and the like. Two will go to expanded infrastructure -- an effort to have broadband internet access in every home in the nation, much like South Korea, as well as a government-run free library of every book ever published ever. The last one will be in tax breaks to the following sectors, in order -- high-tech, heavy industry, medical. This will be focused 75% on building up domestic industry, but 25% of this will also be for foreign direct investment in a special area along the Mediterranean coast.

Military:

Armies

2 on loan to the EU for border protection. These are under STRICT instructions to go nowhere NEAR Ukraine.
2 to Ukrainian peacekeeping operations.
4 to Cyprus to **** the Greeks up.
4 concentrated around Constantinople, heavy training for war.
4 concentrated around Ankara, heavy training for war.

Navy

2 to the Black Sea doing training exercises, especially assisting the population of Ukraine -- food, medical treatment, et cetera -- and, if any desire to leave, taking them back to Turkey. The army units there will also assist in this process.

3 to the Mediterranean blockading Cyprus. No ship may enter unless it is Turkish, and heavy protocols will be established to ensure proper identification of ships. Special contact must be made to high Naval authority by any international ship entering Cyprus, and they will be subject to a full and thorough search. The punishment for insufficient searching of a ship is tantamount to mutiny (i.e. death). Any ship may leave Cyprus at any time for any reason.

3 to protect Turkish ports from possible Greek naval retaliation.

Air Force

5 on high alert to repel Greek air attacks.
4 on aircraft carriers to make the fall of Cyprus cake.

Spy:

5 goes to spying on Greek air force activity
2 goes to Bulgarian general military activity

[Wizard of the Coat]

@viggo: 2 wealth is needed for every point of stat upgrades. (it's a 2 for 1 deal)

Also your stats are not changed until the beginning of the next turn. So you only have 10 armies at the ready, at best. And just a hint, Cyprus is an island...you might want to assign some naval forces to any operations there. (in the future the failure to do so by anyone will just result in a failure of the action in question)

@moody: Your free to change trade all throughout your turn at any point. Everything takes effect at the start of the next. (note if someone decides to cancel all trade like 1/2 a day before the deadline in order to minimize his own losses and ensure the other player has no time to negotiate new deals, then the other player will have a few days to renegotiate his trade too though...I'm not letting people use the rules to an advantage that wasn't intended)

(more to come after getting a bit of sleep)

[Moody the Wise]

@Wizard


1 point of spy used each to identify and connect with pro-Argentine communist movements in South America (restricted to Chile, Peru, Bolivia, and the Guays) and in southern Africa (restricted to outside of the sovereign nation of South Africa). I rolled (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4045001#post4045001) a 4 on the first one (South America) and a 1 on the second one (Africa).

My primary effect for both of these is getting the job done, and the secondary cover-up.

So they both succeed, right? I believe you said that finding groups like this only took a roll of 1.


Also, thanks for the answer to the trade question.

[nothingclever]

(Now that Wizard has confirmed we can change our trade any time this week I'll be switching my trade around.)

After seeing the terrible loss of life caused by the nuclear attack on Ukraine, Australia seeks to cancel all economic ties with the EU and instead asks other nations in support of Ukraine if they would be willing to do the same and trade with Australia. Australia also cancels trade with Turkey, not out of any kind of spite but because it simply does not believe Ukraine's actions were acts of war and does not want to be involved with anyone supporting the EU.

Australia seeks to trade with New Zealand, Philippines and Malaysia as much as possible. Ideally trading 4:4 with each of them. Each country who accepts this major trade agreement is promised military protection by Australia.

If the above countries do not/cannot trade the amount requested Australia will ask the following countries in the order they are named to trade with it: Singapore, Thailand, Bangladesh, Vietnam.

Important notice for Wizard
I would like to withdraw my statement that Australia would trade with Tanzania, Mozambique and Kenya because after I looked them up I realized they were too poor to be medium powers for 1:1 trade.

So if successful my revised trade list will look like this:

Indonesia: 5:5
New Zealand 4:4
Malaysia 4:4
Philippines 4:4

My goal is to trade with countries closest to mine not controlled by players to create unity in the area.

[kentma57]

Canada (Turn 1)

Official press release:
"Canada is appaled by the recent thoughtless use of nuclear weapons. While we do not support millitary action, unless necessary, a repremand to all countries involved is needed."

Recent Goverment initiatives:
Nuclear defence: "Due to increasing use of WMDs we have our increased the protection for the safty of our citizens, we will not manufacture weapons of our own."

Space program: "In recent years we have made many breakthroughs in the field of science, we are happy to anounce that a large breakthrough will soon allow us to experiment with colinization."

Emergency Immigration: "Due to the recent conflicts around the world, Canada has opened it's borders to people involved in recent conflicts."

Crunch:Finaces:
Wealth = +23
Trade = +21
Upkeep = -15 (75/5)
Remaining = 29

Actions:
Space: +11
Pop: +1
Defence: +2

EDIT: What can I do with my one remaining point?

EDIT 2: wealth to point ration change...

[Moechi_Vill]

"We've fired the Chairwoman and Strategic Command so they'll be available for an international court to deal with. We also formally apologize for the attack and have ordered our forces to withdraw. As to the transferral of wealth and other demands we comply but with the UN in particular we see the need to wait out the process and gather the input of all nations."
"The New Chairman, Hallis Reign, is proud to declare victory over Ukraine as Russian forces have settled on this rebellious territory, bringing it back into the fold of the sane. We also declare that we have suspended trade with Australia and initiated it with the United States of America while will be sending peacekeeping forces to the EU to ensure its safety."

New Trade and Spending Orders for EU for this five-year period
Trade 5 with Turkey, Trade 3 with US, Trade 2 with Switzerland, Trade 7 with Canada and Trade 9 with Russia.

Pay upkeep, Increase Wealth by 8 (or economy if that is not possible for some points?), Army by 7, Civil by 2 (one point of the two civil points is invested into propaganda that what we did was honorable, honest defense and another one of the two points of propaganda goes into propaganda that won the war) Invest 2 Point in Tech (nuclear fallout tech)

"Anyone who attacks the EU should count on the wrath of the USA, Canada, Russia and Turkey. Allow us to live in peace and do not say for example that Germany, France or Italy does not belong to the EU."

The EU joyously welcomes Turkish peacekeepers and anxiously awaits the arrival of Russian, Canadian and US troops to protect the Union.

[Moody the Wise]

@Wizard


Is there a limit to the amount of military units that African rebel groups can buy, or that we can sell? Are they only looking for army (tanks) or could they use a few units of air as well?

If my spying action a few posts ago turned up any promising candidates in Africa, I'd like to use my remaining three spy points to infiltrate these groups, radicalize them along Marxist lines, increase their pro-Argentine leanings, and clean them up and make them respectable, before I send any equipment over. That previous sentence constitutes my primary objective. Can I waive the secondary objective of covering it up in order to add the secondary points to my primary objective? Maybe even just half the secondary points? I don't really care about covering it up, because there's no way I could cover up the actual arms transfer later anyway. Here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4045580#post4045580) are rolls for it (in post #9). So, 5 primary, 2 secondary. I only want to go ahead with this part if my agents were able to find a suitable candidate (relatively Marxist-leaning, popular movement in an unstable country), so please let me know ASAP what happened with that. And, I assume, if that is not the case, I can consider the three spy points described above as unused, since this is a contingent plan.

[The Squirrel]

Switzerland


Simon Quirrel elected president under new Swiss constitution
The people of Switzerland elected its first president under the recently reformed constitution. S. Quirrel noted in his victory speech that even though the new Swiss government has changed significantly, it's been a relatively stable change, especially in light of the fact that the 2050 was a tumultuous year, with many governments undergoing major reformations. He added that he liked what he saw in many of the changes, home and abroad, and predicted a new time of peace and prosperity.-clip from Newsweek, dated two days before European missiles landed on Ukrainian soil



Ten questions with Swiss President S. Quirrel:

Q: Under the new Swiss constitution, Swiss corporations may now send representatives to the House of Representatives?
A: Yes, the House is made up of corporations, cantons and a few wealthy individuals. Each corporation, or in some cases a group of corporations, sends a number of representatives equal to the proportion of the last national budget that they paid in federal taxes. If you're particularly wealthy, you may apply for your own representative; otherwise individual taxes are applied to individual cantons to send representatives in a proportional manner like the corporations.

Q: So essentially those with the money call the shots? Isn't that somewhat elitist?
A: Not really. It's thier money that makes the government run. They deserve to have some say in the matter. Besides, the Senate, which composes the other half of the legislature, is still elected by popular vote of Swiss citizens, as is the presidency.

Q: What is the Swiss response to the European Union's recent nuclear strike?
A: A sad matter, that. I think it may be a case of misunderstanding and tragic overreaction. The Red Cross was dispatched immediately, and the Swiss government is contributing to thier humanitarian efforts in the Ukraine. I just hope that the international community and the UN can prevent this from escalating, though I suppose continuing might be a more appropriate word here.

Q: Aren't you worried that about the new direction the EU has taken? Surely as a country surrounded by them you must have concerns about your own independence?
A: Not really. Switzerland has a strong tradition of neutrality and I think the EU will respect that. They'd have little to gain by invasion, as our economy would largely be shattered and there are few natural resources to speak of. If threatened we can mobilize most of our population; our many mountain strongholds would make invasion a daunting task at any rate. Suffice it to say that I not concerned about it.

Q: What is your response to Europe's announcement that trade relations with your country have been suspended?
A: I'm not ready to accept that just yet. Traditionally there have been strong trade relations between Switzerland and the EU and I doubt that all trade would be dropped so readily. If the EU leadership is truly ready to sever the ties between our economies, I will wish them the best for the future but have no doubt we will find others to trade with.

Q: So you're perfectly willing to trade with the EU despite threats of international economic sanctions?
A: This is a tricky issue for us, one I hope that other nations will try to understand. The EU is our one and only neighbor. Most nations have a handful of neighbors that they may trade with; if they decide not to trade with one of them, they have two or three others that they may turn to. Let us also not forget that all shipments to and from Switzerland must pass through the Union's territory.

Q: In your campaign you promised to increase the population. How exactly are you planning on accomplishing this?
A: Well, we have several programs in the works, but the one coming online in just a month or two would give Swiss citizens the option of receiving a stipend for having one parent stay at home part time, full time in the last three months of pregnancy. You are also given an incentive to take care of other children during your stay at home time. The theory is that if the stay at home parent wants to find find part time work, or even wants to go to work full time, they should have many superb choices for childcare. It essentially allows families to have many children without as much financial pressure.

Q: That could take some time before you see significant numbers.
A: Yes, well we're also seeing a lot of European immigration, probably as a reaction to recent events. They are welcome to stay here, though I expect most to return home once they see their homelands have been restored to a peaceful state - something I expect to happen quite soon.

Q: You have some major economic programs planned, care to expand?
A: Well, the banking institutions are increasing their gold reserves, which should help stabilize the Swiss Frac even more, and we're investing heavily in our schools of economics at the university level. If you want advice on running an economy, there should be few other places in the world that can compete with our knowledge and theories. We have a team scrutinizing investment opportunities abroad as well as at home, particularly in our precision machining facilities.
We're also setting up operations for a new transport initiative for economical shipping using high altitude zeppelins. We're developing techniques to sequester the hydrogen safely as well as chart out the high altitude wind currents.

Q: Hydrogen? Isn't that dangerous? What about helium?
A: Helium's become too expensive to do economically. Hydrogen is not as dangerous as you might think. A full zeppelin's hydrogen hasn't much more explosive power than the fuel tank of one today's commercial airliners. By shipping along the jet stream routes, we should be able to save tremendously on fuel as well as access many areas inaccessible by sea vessel.



budget (open to all):

Wealth = +12
Trade = +10
Upkeep(55/5) = -11
Spendable Wealth = 11

Expenses
+4 Economy (8)
+1 Population (2)
1 wealth sent to Ukraine for humanitarian aid (1)


@USA
I'll gladly trade 1 point with you

@Madagascar, Panama, Mongolia, Chile, Iceland
The Swiss are looking to diversify its portfolio of international trading partners and have identified each of you out as a prime candidate for operations (1 point of trade each). Switzerland continues to maintain a stance of neutrality and promises to continue its proud tradition of economic stability.

@New Zealand
Switzerland wishes you luck in your future in whatever future you determines for yourself. The Swiss government warns that international neutrality is a precarious position not easily maintained, though you have our moral support should you attempt this goal. In this spirit, we offer you a trade of (1) to help alleviate some of the international economic pressures.

@ the Vatican
We will be happy to continue in providing you with the traditional Swiss Guard. Would you also be interested in exchanging a point of trade?

@the EU
Just asking for confirmation on the canceled deal of 2 trade. If so I need to attempt to find more trade partners.

@Ukraine
I send you a point of wealth to be used for humanitarian efforts to help alleviate the damage done by the nuclear strike.

Espionage:

Cover 1:

espionage roll (1) http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1523184/ (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1523184/)
Primary: cover: 1
Secondary: ?: 0
Action:
@ the Vatican

Your Eminence,
I feel you should make some statement regarding the EU's recent actions. We will support you in whatever declaration you feel necessary, but urge you to speak on the matter. We hear murmurs of discontent from across the oceans regarding your silence. Even a simple statement calling for 'prayers for the souls of unfortunate, an urge continued vigilance, and a wish for a peaceful resolution to this tragedy' could go a long way. You have our faith and support; we, and the whole Christian world look to you for guidance.

If you ever need anything, feel free to ask - my office is always open to you and I am always willing to accept an invitation to yours.

May God be with us,
S. Quirrel


Counter Espionage: (1,4,5): http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1523811/ (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1523811/)
Primary: strength: 5
Secondary: don't know if there is any option: 2

[Nerd-o-rama]

Switzerland's aid has been accepted and logged in my updated budget above.

OOC: **** it, I'm still way too awake, so I might as well respond now.


Chairman Reign, we accept the European Union's willingness to discuss terms, and appreciate the gesture of agreeing to the first on our agenda. Now, ignoring your empty and hypocritical posturing for a moment, we have the following items to discuss before the Federal Republic of Ukraine and our allies can consider the matter settled:

Reparations payments. Our request on the table remains 26 Wealth in reparations and punitive damages. Our budgetary analysts have calculated the immediate effects of the nuclear attack to have been 22 Wealth worth of damage, in addition to the currently incalculable effects of nuclear fallout, radiation poisoning, and economic disruption. We will be willing to reduce our demands to this 22 Wealth figure if and only if the EU commits to the next term. We will accept installment payments as small as 6 Wealth per five years, at a five-annual interest rate of 5% of the remaining balance.
Full cooperation from the European Union in the research and implementation of fallout-removing technology. Until we have a commitment from the EU to swiftly and effectively remove the lingering effects of the radiation from their attack, there can be no certain peace.
Nuclear disarmament of the European Union. A mere tradeout of officials cannot guarantee the safety of anyone who might smart off to you in the future from full-scale nuclear retaliation. Eliminate your WMD programs and submit to UN probation, immediately. And none of that MAD defense crap. Invest the recovered infrastructure in ABM defenses. We certainly will.
We will continue to push for the EU's removal from the Security Council in the United Nations. However, we are willing to accept that this is outside the realms of this peace treaty.
Finally, we find that your apologies for the assault on our nation ring hollow when you go on to falsely characterize Ukraine as an aggressor, and claim that foreign troops have been allowed into Ukraine to protect you from us rather than the opposite. We would appreciate it if you ceased this flagrant perjury and admit to your guilt in this attack in diplomatic practice, rather than simple lip service.
Although this didn't make it into the official diplomatic envoy, PM Vasyl Dzubenko was quoted by an anonymous source as saying that, if the Chairman ever referred to Ukraine as a "rebellious territory" again, "I will personally go to Strasbourg and beat seven kinds of [expletive deleted] out of him."

[El_Frenchie]

Indonesia

Indonesia supports the following declaration by Mexican authorities as the number of sanctions to be applied on Europe for its abuse of nuclear weapons on Ukraine.

GM
I suspect there will be civil unrest in countries that don't condemn the acts?


1. Trade Blockade.

2. Dismantlement of Nuclear Launch Sites.
3. Dismantlement of Nuclear Nukes production Lines.

4. UN inspectors mandate to monitor the EU such that any attempts to construct nuclear weaponry or the equipment or facilities related to nuclear weaponry may be known immediately and prevented.

5. Revoke EU's seat on the Security Council.

News

Indonesian Outrage!

Anti-nuclear movements and anti-EU movements rally. Indonesian authorities denounce EU 'cover-up' of the whole affair.

Indonesia's Speaker:

"I am surprised that landing this many nukes on an unsuspecting nation would make this little waves. Not only that, but Europe proclaims it a victory? Victory over whom? Over the dead families? Parents that lost their child? Orphans? Widows? The EU called it a little mistake? What kind of hypocrisy is that? They toy with human lives, claim that they then regret, but yet advertise it as a great victory?

Can we really allow this to go unchecked? Indonesia would like a statement from the powers of the Security Council on the matter."

The Indonesian press publishes world-wide to any broadcasting television shows and news, images of the wreckage in Ukraine.

"The EU doesn't have its place in the UN, and certainly not its place among those that agree to call themselves civilized. The EU was a role model to many developing countries. It is now nothing more than a rabid beast with foam at its mouth."

Trade partners:

Japan 5:5
Australia 5:5

Malaysia

Indonesia would like to trade on an equal rate of 2:2

Philippines

Indonesia would like to trade on an equal rate of 1:1

New Zealand

Indonesia would like to trade on an equal rate of 2:2

--------
Tentative Budget for 2051-2055
Wealth: 25

Upkeep: 15

Trade: 15

Net after trade: 25

Indonesia
+5 to Economy (10 points)
+5 to Civil (10 points)
+2 to Tech (4 points)

World
Support the UN resolution and its clauses around the world. (1 point)

Total: 25 spent.

[The Squirrel]

@ Indonesia
The Swiss UN representative quietly requests a meeting with your representative; (no real efforts to hide it, just a low key meeting)

In the ensuing discussion (assuming the invitation for discussion is accepted), our representative requests an amendment to your proposed sanctions against the European Union, specifically asking for an exemption for Switzerland. While we feel that the proposed action may be warranted, some consideration for our specific situation must be considered. If Switzerland were to declare an economic embargo against the European Union, they would be very justified in declaring an embargo on us in return, including the prohibition of all transport across thier sovereign territory, effectively isolating us. It is in this light that we would be forced to vote against economic sanctions without a specific Swiss exemption.
Though we feel the recent disastrous actions taken by the EU are unquestionably reprehensible, even if the Swiss exemption is in place, the best we can offer is an abstention on the matter; we feel it is not moral to tell others to undertake actions that we are not ourselves prepared to take.
If you feel it necessary, I can repeat Switzerland's concerns to the General Assembly, though the reasons behind any exemption should be self explanatory.

[viggo]

WizCoat: my purchases are straight, unless of course trade increases wealth next turn and not this one. I understand that armies and such will only incur next turn, but I deployed only six of my armies. I also deployed navies to blockade Cyprus.

Revised orders:

attacking cyprus:

4 armies
3 navies
4 air force

5 spy to greece to detect military response to cypriot invasion

[Wizard of the Coat]

EU attacks Ukrain
(yes there were bombers were underway right after the nukes and so was their navy...Moechi said previously they were not recalled directly after the nukes, instead resting only once the international community had responded)

EU
Air Strength 10 + 2.5 (halved due to distortion) = 12.5
Air Defence : 3
Naval Strength 16
naval Defence: 6

Ukrain
Air Strength: 3 (army's AA guns secondary*) + 7 (airforce) + 1 (navy) = 11
Air Defence : 1 (army AA guns tertiary effect*)
Naval Strength: 10 (navy)
naval Defence: 4 (navy)

*note these I have added solely because there is no ground complement (they are secondary and tertiary effects only; only air is good at attacking the other two branches)

EU loses: 2 Air/ 1.2 Navy
Ukrain loses: 2.1 Air/ 1.9 Navy

EU Raid on Russians
Some EU planes change course at the last moment and fly into russia. They proceed to bomb russia airfields. In addition the EU is using Russia air space to attack the Ukrainian lands.

EU (size 1)
Air Strength 4 (doubled due to surprise)
Air Defence : 1

Russia (size 4)
Air Strength: 7
Air Defence: 2

The EU planes are out, but Russia can scramble only her western air force fighters, though sufficient to knock the EU planes out of the air...though not before massive damage is done to Russia's western airbases.

Damage: Russia 1.6 air/ EU 1 air


(more to come...just wanted to get this out of the way before I had to resolve this after everyone had even forgotten about the war)

[Moechi_Vill]

Newsflash
International conspiracy to bring EU and Russia to war!
~combat data distributed worldwide clearly represents the full ten airfleet wings of the EU air force over Ukraine in the 'accidental war'... thus the eleventh air fleet can not possibly be from the EU~

Irbis, I believe someone is trying to make us fight. I don't HAVE 11 air fleets, only ten, and they accidentally fought Ukraine. Probably your rebellious province or one of the many factions condemning me or perhaps one of the silent ones, waiting to pounce on me from the west or south, hoping my forces will be engaged against you. Rest assured I continue to support Russian peacekeeping and unity over the Eastern bloc, as you are a sane and appreciable nation.
We also invite you to send peace keepers to the orthodox Balkan nations along with Turkey. All we want is Greece back and your welfare.
Remember that the Ukrainian junta leader promised revenge, though I do not think he has the resources to pull off such a heist I advise you to put Ukraine under control immediately. Something is up with their airforce, I believe two extra air wings might have appeared (they suddenly had 7 again). If our agencies find out that they did indeed have air wings then it means they assembled aircraft from some rabid, interventionist nation, painted them European and launched them at you. Its just a theory, but Ukraine might have covertly gone to an air war with you, trying to frame me with his Covert Operations, possibly with the help of someone else, and if it indeed was 7 air wings, then definitely the military aid of someone else.
My gut instinct is to advise you to put Ukraine under immediate Russian martial law and send in more troops. Who knows, maybe he'll convince someone to nuke us both next. I can lend you some defense weaponry if you want it.

To Russia
This is making me really nervous. I think it could be Britain or Argentina, or Indonesia or whomever. :(
At this point I wouldn't mind if you came down to Romania afterwards. Anyway...

I trust you.

Anyway, mr Ukraine is ready for a takeover, plus some radiation. They'll probably work with you and give you most of their economy if you feed them. I'm glad to report he is practically defenseless! ^^ He only has 3+ points of effective naval power left and 2+ points of airpower left after the accidental war. Please take him out and absorb him. He is Russian after all. And please support the Christians nations in Africa. :)

Wizcoat: Were those even my fighters? I look over my aircraft once they come back. From the calculations it looks like MY ENTIRE air force was in Ukraine, thus the eleventh point must have been someone else's...
How many months has it been by the way? We had time for fleets all the way from the middle Atlantic and Norwegian sea clashing iron in the Black Sea.
And why did Ukraine have 7 air fleets (2 of them were taken out by nukes) and possibly 3 armies (might just be my misunderstanding the way AA works)? Btw., did I get a combat bonus for the high tech. I had?
Did my pilots notice anything weird about the pilots they fought?
OOC: If it was a clerical error I'd like it corrected in combat. If not, we'll try to identify what kind of models they were.


Squirrel
You said it wasn't secret so I overlooked your meeting Switzerland. The EU would really appreciate it if you tried not to drag your own fat out of the fire without considering us. You know it was a mistake. Besides, aren't you ignoring the more important matter at hand? Damage containment against the radiation. And trade... are you going to work with us on it?
We love Switzerland, but we hope you will show us some love back. :) Or at least attention to cooperate with the issues at hand. I expect some legitimate help from Switzerland, I'm offering you free radiation clean-up tech after all. :)

UN
France vetoes the motion, and all the other EU nations vote against it. The EU asks its friend and allies to follow suit. Armenia and the Christians nations of Africa might support us as well as our North American and Euro-Asian friends.

[The Squirrel]

The EU would really appreciate it if you tried not to drag your own fat out of the fire without considering us.

@ the EU (also open, but low key)

I didn't realize my fat was in the fire. It's not Switzerland that the world seems to be lining up against. You practically started WWIII, and in that light, I'm not sure that sanctions are unapropriate. The upshot is that you seem willing to comply with the items of the resolution; once you do, the economic sanctions cannot be morally maintained, and I will say so to the world.
I owe it to my country, my people, and my forefathers to try and remain as neutral as possible in this situation. We know you understand.
And, yes, we would be very willing to spend some research in collaboration with you to study the effects and possible neutralization of radiation contamination (as soon as we find out how research works :smallsmile: ).

[Moechi_Vill]

Wonderful, we thank the Swizz for their kindness to our state. Of course, your fat is not in the fire, we would never harm you no matter your stance. What I meant was in regards to radiation, but together we shall overcome!

[El_Frenchie]

Indonesia


EU Raid on Russians
Some EU planes change course at the last moment and fly into russia. They proceed to bomb russia airfields. In addition the EU is using Russia air space to attack the Ukrainian lands.

There is no 11th Air division. Simply one of the 10 divisions that broke off the rest to attack Russia. A large number of "accidental" wars are arising it seems.

Indonesia's Speaker:

"To Switzerland, we offer but our compassion in their current state. We would likely appreciate abstinence in voting, in response to the EU's unprovoked attack on Ukraine with Nukes, and this further invasion of both Ukraine and Russian territory.

We urge both the USA, Russia and Canada to issue statements of opinion on whether they support the nuclear "accidental" attack and the following invasion of Ukraine.

If the EU doesn't stop its relentless, unprovoked invasion, Indonesia won't be able to stand neutral in the conflict any longer."

[Moechi_Vill]

You're wrong... we had the strength of ten fleets in the air over Ukraine. Their fuel would be depleted from intense operations over Ukraine.
I resent your accusations. You're completely off base, I have never claimed the nuclear attack to be accidental. The follow-up was. And it wasn't an invasion, the accidental attack was merely an air war and naval engagement that were thought to have been canceled.

The nuclear attack was not accidental and it was provoked, but the naval and aircraft war was accidental. As for the incident in Russia... that is further foreign intervention by some nation that probably espouses their hate of the use of nuclear weapons but secretly wants to start a world war.
You hypocrites!
I'm sure the Russian President will be much more understanding.

Who doesn't the world understand I was defending myself from Ukrainian aggression? My only goal in nuking Ukraine with tactical warheads was to cripple his army so he couldn't support Greece's independence. (OOC: Actually, I described tactical attacks in detail to Wizco, but the way the game mechanics work it didn't take that into account.)

Perhaps it is Indonesia who sent extra aircraft to Ukraine. Why did they have seven fleets when two had already been destroyed by nuclear fire?
Whomever supplied them with extra air forces probably sent the 11'th air fleet or must have used some sort of DISTORTION as was clearly described in the international report to break off a section of the air fleet.

At any rate the EU intends to join with the United States as the United States of the Atlantic. USA :) We might alternatively join with Russia to create the Eurasia Incorporated
The part of the EU government uninvolved with warfare will stay on in an advisory capacity to either President who accepts the offer. This will ensure continued stability under the US government, so all you evildoers can just back off. We nuked Ukraine and we take responsibility for it and will pay amends to Russia.
Whomever is trying to frame us is doing a very poor job of it.
Is it you Indonesia? With your talk of accidental nuclear wars of which there have been none, you sound like you might be the one trying to frame me.
Do you have any idea whom it might be? Someone is trying to make Russia take over all of Europe by making us enemies of each other. For the sake of avoiding WW3 we need to use espionage points to find out who.

[Nycthemeron]

AFP, AP, Reuters, BBC & Channel Africa: Cape Town, South Africa

The Presidency and Crown issued this joint statement today: "In response to the continuing War in Europe to which the European Union's new strategic command has done nothing to halt and as the EU has chirlishly stalled UN efforts; the Republic of South Africa will be holding an emergency conference in Cape Town to discuss any and all options, not excluding, to our greatest regret, military intervention. The Government and Foreign Office hope that all states large and small, of all ideologies and continents shall attend."


@All save EU:
Send your ministers, sort the problem out. I do not want to start a world war against the EU, but we may have to show willingness to use force.

[Zid]

PM adress houses of parliament

The Brittish PM today announced that they condemn the actions of the EU. "When we withdrew from the Union, not even we could think that the EU would devolve into a war-mongering fundamentalist regime. We will take full actions to make those responsible taken to the internation crime court in the Hauge."

Britain suspends ALL trade with EU. All ships bound for EU are subject to Royal navy intervention, turning them back or subjecting the to search and siezure.

Britain demands that the responsible people are turned over to the crime courts in the Hauge. The two scapegoats offered by the EU will not suffice.

Britain votes with with mr Guevara in the general assembly and security council.

@Wizard
Britains fleet, army and air forces are put at full alert, and strong supervision of EU airfields and fleet bases to be ready if any EU strike would come their way.

Diplomacy: We use our embassies in the balcan states, offering them a mutual defence assurance; if they are attacked by EU, we shall respond. The same agreements are offered to Norway, Iceland. They are also offered trade agreements on a 1:1 basis.

Spy: We use our diplomacy and spying efforts in the EU to try to reach out to opposition parties and anti-war movements opposing the current EU leadership. (We use 3 spying points for this) If possible, we try to make entire countries follow the example of greece and leave. We also use 1 point of spying efforts to try to chart out the current EU leadership, and make sure that those responsible will pay the price.

[Zid]

@Wizard:The EU player is obviously trying to give away his entire nation to the USA player. Britain could never accept such an agreement, and will use all it´s diplomatic efforts in european states to try to avoid it. The current EU leadership is obviously both incapable of ruling the nation and quick to act. What European nations would willingly merge with the USA? The United Kingdom is willing to rejoin the European Union, purge out the remnants of unfit leadership and use our wealth to co-fund the inevitable reparations that must be paid to Ukraine. It becomes more and more inevitable that Moechi is running a sinking ship

[Wizard of the Coat]

Wizcoat: Were those even my fighters? I look over my aircraft once they come back. From the calculations it looks like MY ENTIRE air force was in Ukraine, thus the eleventh point must have been someone else's...
How many months has it been by the way? We had time for fleets all the way from the middle Atlantic and Norwegian sea clashing iron in the Black Sea.
And why did Ukraine have 7 air fleets (2 of them were taken out by nukes) and possibly 3 armies (might just be my misunderstanding the way AA works)? Btw., did I get a combat bonus for the high tech. I had?
Did my pilots notice anything weird about the pilots they fought?
OOC: If it was a clerical error I'd like it corrected in combat. If not, we'll try to identify what kind of models they were.



1 division of Eu asircraft bombed Russia (1 russia, 9 ukrain). They did not bomb the Ukraine. From the wrekkage the Russians find it is evident that these were EU planes in every way.

Also 7 air comes from their action rolls. 5 action dice, giving rise to 7 points of primary effects (that being the air attack for aircraft in a default combat).


@ ALL:
NOTE: This combat happened only several hours after the nuclear strike, before anyone could react to the crisis. I did not stae it immediately as I thought that turkey or Russia might have wanted to send in air support for either side (they ahd time to react).

((Also...the thisn isn't fair angle isn't really the case, I remember you stating this was going to happen as you could hardly pull back. Remember far from everyone has responded yet. and my post did state this happened before people could respond.))

((also a few tactical nukes...you emptied the french nuclear arsenal (currently(2008) 3rd biggest in the world). I'm sorry but colateral damage will happen. It was described under secondary effect in the nuclear section.))

Russian Blitz

Russia tanks stream across the Ukrain, mechanised troops assemble on the border to follow suit. The Russia Forces ignore any Ukranians, but are heading fast towards the EU border.

East European Unrest

Belarus and Moldova are beginnig to move forces to the EU border. In questions asked by the media at this evident move it is explained that EU operatives and terrorists have been caught by police forces, attempting to steal plans, sabotage soceity and prepare for invasion.


Turkish War

Turkish forces are assembling over Cyprus. UN peacekeepers present can do little as divisions of turkish tanks roll over the barriers and head into european cyprus. There is a little resistance, but the Island is essentially turkish territory as the cypriot army heads underground.

UN secretary General says he is appauled at turkish lack of respect for the UN peacekeeping force and the right to self determination for the cypriot people.

@Turkey Greece stands by helplessly as it prepares it's own defences.


Serbian-Greek Alliance

Serbia and Greece announce a mutual defence pact in response to the Turkish threat. Other balkan countries are invited to join, Ukraine amongst them.

At those seeking trade with minors

Medium powers can trade up to 2/3 of their trade with minor 1:1.
Great powes can trade up to 1/3 of their trade with minor 1:1.

Minor Nations have 1 or 2 trade to give in return each at best. Be sensible about it, africans or small countries (buthan/nepal) never have more then 1, really.

Minors can trade with up to 3 other countries. First come first serve. Though a more benificial deal will always be accepted over a less benificial one.

Africans

Those who are trading with rebel groups in africa can supply them with weapons. 1 military point yields 2 wealth from 'semi-legitimate' governments or 3 wealth from evil warlords. You need to get a strength 2 espionage to discover those with similar sympathies, and can smuggle out as much wealth as the strength of your espionage allows (sum of equipment granted + wealth taken should be less then the espionage strength). If you do so please roll the action dice and ADD UP CORRECTLY (also please say if srength is primary and cover up is secondary or vice versa. In essence you should only be able to make a profit if you sell to evil warlords, semi legitimate governments will only make you money if you are willing to reduce your own armies)

Also you CANNOT add primary/secondary and tertiary together.

UN

Most minors are in support of the Argentinian resolutions and the proposed amendments.

@Russia

your actions seem to be succesfull, but what is east? Armenia will likely accept your 2 troops, bt will not give up sovereignty, a trade and defence alliance is the best they will accept (for now).

@argentina

yes, you fnd the right groups with relative ease...niow what do you do with them. Each says that 2 army and 2 air (possibly in terms of air support) and 2 wealth will go a long way.

OOC @Moechi

You know, that post should be in the recruiting (ooc) thread :wink:. I would like for you to continue however. You are far from screwed. Your have a large population making you hard to conquer and your armies are still formidable. The only battle you lost was the diplomatic one, but even that is still possible to win.

[Nerd-o-rama]

you are a Russian province.
"I warned him. I totally warned him. Warm up my plane, get a flight plan to Strasbourg, and bring me my steel-toed boots and cricket bat."
-Vasyl Dzubenko, shortly before being politely restrained by his own security detail until he calmed down.

After the most recent development...

The European Union's intentions are now clear: to divide and conquer the smaller states of Eastern Europe as a prelude to war with Russia. The unprovoked attack on Ukraine was merely the first stage of a plan to conquer everything from the Adriatic to the Urals, or beyond. The Federal Republic of Ukraine will stand by the Federation, Belarus, and Moldova in resisting European aggression, as it is now clear to us that their appearance of acquiescing to our terms was a mere play for time. We encourage our other neighbors who are under similar threat: Bulgaria, Romania, the Eurasian stats, and the Balkan states, to join us in resisting these warmongers. We also appreciate and gratefully accept the support of other nations throughout the world who can help put an end to this madness.

In addition, we are keeping a wary eye on Turkey.

@European Union
Ukrainian treaty negotiators explain that Ukraine's main grievances remain the same. If you address points such as the reparations payments (the full 26 Wealth amount, specifically) and full nuclear disarmament, we might consider a separate peace. Emphasis on might. Depending on exactly how alliance negotiations with other powers go.

@Russia, all Eastern European minors (including Serbia and Greece)
If we are bound for war against the European Union - and most likely his Turkish allies as well - so be it. I doubt our final attempts at peace negotiation will bear any fruit. We are willing to conclude a formal military alliance for self-defense from these two aggressors with all unaffiliated Eastern European nations. Our own military is currently lagging behind thanks to the Union's pre-emptive attacks, but when combined, all of our military strength should be enough to hold off an attack from both powers. We are on the brink of continent-spanning war, and we must be able to protect ourselves. I know I can count on the support of Russia, Belarus, and Moldavia. What say the rest of you?

[LongVin]

The United States will accept the EU's offer of merger and will promise to the rest of the world that the U.S. will do a general accounting and investigations of this "incident" which took place.

[Zid]

The United States will accept the EU's offer of merger and will promise to the rest of the world that the U.S. will do a general accounting and investigations of this "incident" which took place.

The EU has "merged" with the USA, Russia and me in several different posts and PMs (some posts are now deleted). I think it is safe to say that any merger will have to be arbitrated by our GM.

[Moechi_Vill]

Lies!!
The EU wishes to unite with the USA and noone else.

We have been backstabbed by the Illuminati (whoever organized the air incident over Russia), South Africa in particular, RUSSIA who obviously orchestrated incidents in Eastern Europe (if not even the air incident) Japan also, Indonesia, Mexico, Australia, many others, and now by Britain. The only loyal ones around here are Turkey, the USA and maybe Canada!

My last orders are to shift four points of trade to the USA from Russia, spend all wealth and trade on armies -

5 trade with Turkey, 2 with Switzerland, 7 with Canada, Max with USA (5 or 6), and anything left over with Russia on the off chance they didn't betray me.
Spend all 34 wealth - 22 upkeep plus trade income on armies and MOBILIZE and DRAFT and ARM POPULATION, OPEN THE ARMORIES.
Mobilize all zigs people to the last man, woman and child, give them all rifles and resist the invaders! We will only respond peacefully to the Americans!

Then I DECLARE MARTIAL LAW, transfer authority to the SUPREME COMMANDER OF EU FORCES move out onto the square of our EU administration site and have artillery execute me!!

-Moechi_Vill has been eliminated-

[LongVin]

Peacekeepers to be deployed to Europe

The United States is deploying its military to Europe to serve as a peacekeeping force and to protect civilian centers in western Europe from unwarranted counterattacks against civilian centers.

Deployed forces: 3 Army
3 Airforce
4 Navy

[viggo]

I'd like to spend 4 points of technology on developing seabed drilling techniques for resource extraction.

[Moody the Wise]

Ernesto Guevara II Addresses EU Nations in Broadcast

In light of recent events, it is clear to me that the EU is broken. I encourage all responsible EU member nations to withdraw their membership in the EU. I swear on behalf of the international community to protect any nations who do this from EU or foreign retaliation. Additionally, any EU member nations who sever all EU ties and officially condemn the EU's actions over the past months will be exempt from the pending UN sanctions against the EU.

Particularly, trade sanctions against the EU will not apply to any EU member nations that secede. Additionally, if France secedes from the EU, I will amend the resolution to allow the newly-independent France to keep its Security Council seat. If more than half of the EU member nations agree to secede, I will also push for an amendment that will reduce their burden of reparations payments, raising funds from the international community to compensate.

I call on all nations, both those currently in support of and those currently in opposition to my UN resolution, to come out in support of these amendments as incentives to urge the EU member states to secede from the EU in what will be the most peaceful possible way to end this conflict.

@Wizard: As a player and as a nation, my vote is to resolve this by diplomatically dissolving the EU. If we later find a player who wants to take it up, he can start off as France (who, I hope, will clean its hands of this mess) and have a decent shot at reuniting. Since Moechi has removed himself from the game, I assume you have the authority to make decisions for the individual EU member states.

edit: Please consider my EU diplomats (which never were recalled, incidentally) dispersed to the various major European governments, particularly France, to push this option and coordinate with all those wishing to do so a simultaneous withdrawal.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Here's the latest updates to my statline, accounting for the conventional attacks

Federal Republic of Ukraine

Revised Statline (Turn 1)

Army 2/Navy 3/Air 3/Space 3/Population 1/Economy 4/Resources 6/Spy 4/Tech 7/Civil 7/Nuclear 0/Defenses 0
Total 40/Wealth 11/Power 12/Social 17

This doesn't actually change anything in my budget or spending or trade, only removing the fractional part of my Upkeep (Was 8.8, is now 8.0). For GM reference, my budget and trade summary can be found in the post below.


Revised Spending Summary ...

[Thymin]

Brazil:

AP Wire: Sao Paulo

The Brazilian Triumvirate meeting was called to an abrupt halt today, as news of the European Attacks came in. The heads of state have not yet made any official comments in regards to the attacks but sources close to the leaders confirm that Brazil is outraged at the EU's blatant disregard for national soveignty and diplomacy. While no public announcement has been made about the attack, the Triumvirate has officially called for an Emergency meeting of the ALPHA leaders and that conference is expected to commence very soon.

In related news, the Triumvirate was working on the newest five year budget, and had completed the broad strokes that will make up the new budget, and the finer points should be approved very soon. The people of the United Brazilian Federation should look forward to higher levels of prosperity and increased levels of social programs. There is also an initiative to improve Brazil's Space program, including spending on its earth based infrastructure, and the beginning of production on a manned space-station.

Edit:

Press Conference: (Open to all - Spoilered for space considerations)

Eduardo Alfonso d Oliveira, the Minister of Finance and Foreign Affairs takes the stage with a solemn look on his face. He looks directly into the camera and begins."Today we have witnessed an event that will forever influence the future course of world affairs. We have seen an unchecked nation commit the largest single human atrocity in the history of the planet and then claim to have been justified in that action. As I'm sure many of you already know, Ukraine was attacked by the EU because of their support of Greece's right to self-determination. As the events of today unfolded, the melt-down of the EU into smaller constituent parts was a relief to many nations who could only see the previous regime as threatening and bloodthirsty. However, much remains to be done. The Ukranians will need all of the support they can get, and the United Brazilian Federation will be giving "2 points of" aid to the Ukranians to help them through their darkest hour. The UBF proposes that each and every nation that has the means to help out the Ukranians, do so now.
Unfortunately, this is not the last of the problems the EU has left our world with. The UBF condemns the actions taken by Turkey on the island of Cyprus as both imperialistic and opportunistic. The UBF asks for the UN to recognize Greece and Cyprus as sovereign nations and asks the world community to place economic sanctions on Turkey until they remove their military from the foreign land. The UBF will commit forces to the UN peacekeeping effort in those countries.
On a final note relating to national self-determination, The UBF would like to urge France to sever its neo-imperialistic ties to our neighbor nation, French Guiana. The Guianese people have been clamoring for independence for many years now, and the French use of violence to supress those who want independence is a black mark on France's record. The UBF asks France to right this wrong now, if for no other reason than to show the world that you are different than the warmongering dictator who stirred up all of these problems.
Let not the lessons of today be underestimated. May the whole world recognize the value of self-determination and region cooperation."

Crunchy Bits:

Income and Budget:
+ 25 - Wealth
+ 21 - Trade
- 19 - Upkeep (95/5)
= 27 - Five Year Budget

- 10 - 5 points of Economy
- 8 - 4 points of Civil
- 2 - 1 point of Space
- 1 - 1/20 of a space asset
- 3 - Researching new technology (TBD when I figure out how research works...)
- 2 - Aid package to Ukraine
- 1 - reparations to Native American population
= -27 - Five year Budget accounted for.

Turn 2 Trade Agreements (subject to minor changes):

Argentina - 3:3
Canada - 1:1
Japan - 5:5
Mexico - 5:5
Columbia - 1:1 (pending approval)
Venezuela - 1:1 (pending approval)
Guyana - 1:1 (pending approval)
Suriname - 1:1 (pending approval)
Ecuador - 1:1 (pending approval)

[Nerd-o-rama]

Russia and Turkey

Upon looking at my revised stats, I've realized that I can no longer trade 4 points to you. Thanks to the EU's attacks, exports will need to be curtailed. Therefore, I suggest we revise all of our trade deals to 3:3. I also, unfortunately, must cut my exports to Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania.

Revised Trade Summary (Turn 1)

Total possible exports: 10 (4+6)
Nation (Give:Receive)
Russia (3:3) Not Confirmed
Belarus (1:1) NPC
Romania (1:1) NPC
Bulgaria (1:1) NPC
Balkan Minors (1:1) NPC
Turkey (3:3) Confirmed
South Africa (0:2) Confirmed (Humanitarian Aid)
Switzerland (0:1) Confirmed (Humanitarian Aid)

Total (10:13)

[Moody the Wise]

@Wizard:


1. If I decide to support the native movements in Chile, Peru, and/or Bolivia, how much support might they need to be successful, and what degree of control would I retain over what they do with my support? And just to clarify, those governments are actually mistreating (not necessarily physically beating, but discriminating against) their native populations, and I'd have some rationale for supporting the native movements?

2. Can I sell a few points of army and air to established African government(s) at discount prices (1 wealth per point, or maybe 3 wealth for 2 points) in return for said governments becoming squeaky-clean and moving in a heavily socialist direction? Assume I'd have some way of insuring that these things go hand in hand, like requiring more social programs to be enacted before I even send the support and a clear statement that I will forcefully recall my equipment if the government fails to move in a socialist direction or commits egregious human rights offenses.

[Wizard of the Coat]

The New European Union

The revolutions of 2050 that placed a semi religious regime in the EU government have proven fruitless. A backlash against the EU government almost cause the entire union to collapse. Then came the answer. Or at least...for some. The religious fervor that had swept the EU had not gone away, and one man managed to capitalize on that. The new Pope Petrus II. In a grand speech before the assembled catholic masses in Rome, praying for the salvation for the sins their government had committed , he rallied them.

A young, unknown man in his early 20s, gleaming amber hair hangs at the length of his shoulders and forms a neat beard. Surely many could mistake him for images of Jesus as displayed in art.

"Childern of God...do not fear...

We were all fooled. As the holy bible had stated, many would follow the antichrist. And many did. Even my predecessor was swayed by him. I confronted him in his chamber last Sunday, mere moments after the attack and have been in there with him for a week. Surely he saw the error of his ways in supporting Satan. God has forgiven him and taken him too him, for those who truly repent, truly are without blame.

The bible speaks of the kingdom of heaven, descending at the end of times. It speaks of a second coming. Perhaps, this is the second coming of Rome, the kingdom of heaven. Children of god, may those of you who are pure at heart seek forgiveness. May those of you help build the kingdom of heaven, starting anew in Rome. Amids the ashes of our sin, we will rise the kingdom."

The religious fervor has found it's cause. A kingdom founded on peace is established, a kingdom ruled by an enigmatic young man in Rome. Many wonder what is this...

Still despite the Jubilation amongst southern Europe, the northern states wanted nothing of it. Soon the EU was split between north and south...

The North European Union of: Greater Germany (The Netherlands, Flanders (north Belgium), Luxembourg, Austria are included), Denmark, Sweden and Finland;

The economically strong and resource rich parts.

The Kingdom of Heaven: Italy, France (including French Guyana and other colonies), Walloon (south Belgium), Spain, Portugal, Poland, Hungary, Czech, Slovakia;

The agricultural parts, but also having the vast wealth of the Catholic church (economy of tithes from Catholics).

The other states become independent.

US peace keepers

Both the NEU and the Kingdom of Heaven reject any US peace keepers. They claim to have nothing to do with the past actions against the Ukraine, which were carried out by 'that mad religious dictator' (NEU) and/or 'the Antichrist' (KOH).

Aid offer to Ukrain

The KOH and NEU both offer to aid the Ukrain. KOH offers 1 units of each military branches, as part of their demilitarization effort. NEU offers economic aid in the form of a favorable 2:1 trade of 10 points of trade to you in return for 5 Ukrainian trade for two turns . (in an explanation the NEU says that this was similar to post WW II origins of the EU which were made to prevent a war between France and Germany, to bind the economies closer together).

[Nerd-o-rama]

@KOH
A slightly confused but not unhappy Ukraine accepts the KOH's offer of surplus military goods.

(I'll assume I get these at the beginning of next turn along with trade income and this turn's stat purchases?)

@NEU
We appreciate the gracious trade offer. Unfortunately, our current export capacity can barely reach our prior trade commitments, which we as an honorable, free-trading nation can't very well back down from. Will the offer still stand in the next five-year period?


@Both and Independent European nations (France et al)
Also, not to sound like a penny-pincher, but the values of the aid offered from Europe's two new powers totals barely half of the damage caused by their predecessor. Even though our nation's greatest enemy has now dissolved into distinct entities with whom we are happy to deal peaceably, there is still much rebuilding we need to do if we are to survive and defend ourselves from future threats. There is also the matter of fallout cleanup that we must, regrettably, still hold the nations of Europe accountable for. With the new governments, however, we are willing to overlook the nuclear disarmament terms. Though we will be investing heavily in strategic defenses nonetheless.

[viggo]

Ukraine: New trade deal is fine, but it won't hit until next turn.

What about the 2 armies and 3 navies I offered for peacekeeping along the Black Sea and southern Ukraine? Did you accept them?

WizCoat: Has the KoH rejected my donation of 2 armies for border security?

Also, 3:3 with KoH and 2:2 for NEU for trade deals next turn acceptable?

[nothingclever]

Robert Daniels asks Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, New Zealand, Singapore and Papua New Guinea to formally create a pact with Australia and each other to promise mutual military and economic support to defend against any possible attacks in the future from the unrest in Europe which is likely to spread throughout the globe. A name and exact guidelines for this agreement do not need to be made immediately and are expected to be reached over time.

Robert will wait for the response of these nations before doing anything else.

[Nerd-o-rama]

OOC: Sorry, I missed the armies/navies from Turkey. I believe at the time they were offered I would have accepted them, and...yeah, they can stick around. Ukraine has not quite gotten around to asking the peacekeepers to go home yet, though it will likely happen before the end of the turn.

[Irbis]

[QUOTE=Wizard_of_the_Coat;4046671]1 division of Eu asircraft bombed Russia (1 russia, 9 ukrain). They did not bomb the Ukraine. From the wrekkage the Russians find it is evident that these were EU planes in every way.

Also 7 air comes from their action rolls. 5 action dice, giving rise to 7 points of primary effects (that being the air attack for aircraft in a default combat).

Um, but I stated that all interceptors are to be placed at war readiness, and Russia has the best radar system in the world.

And I still got bombed? :smallsigh:

Russian Blitz

Russia tanks stream across the Ukrain, mechanised troops assemble on the border to follow suit. The Russia Forces ignore any Ukranians, but are heading fast towards the EU border.

Good.


East European Unrest

Belarus and Moldova are beginnig to move forces to the EU border. In questions asked by the media at this evident move it is explained that EU operatives and terrorists have been caught by police forces, attempting to steal plans, sabotage soceity and prepare for invasion.

We will ask them to coordinate their movements with us, and will invite them to EAST to stave off the western threat, this or any future one.


Serbian-Greek Alliance

Serbia and Greece announce a mutual defence pact in response to the Turkish threat. Other balkan countries are invited to join, Ukraine amongst them.


We will also ask all of them to join the EAST, announcing we recognize Greece's independence; We will apologize about the delay, but we were occupied by the Nuclear event in Ukraine.


@Russia

your actions seem to be succesfull, but what is east? Armenia will likely accept your 2 troops, bt will not give up sovereignty, a trade and defence alliance is the best they will accept (for now).

We assure them don't want them to give up their sovereignty; In fact, as we stated, we want them to annex Azers with our help to end this little problem of ethnic mish-mash right there. EAST was specified in the pre-game talk, basically CIS 2.0 with mutual defensive support and trade zone.

Also, Importante!

We have 10 free points of trade free with that whole sad event occuring - PM us, and we will work something out!

[El_Frenchie]

Indonesia

Trade partners:

PC

Japan 5:5
Australia 5:5

NPC

Malaysia 3:2
Philippines 1:1
New Zealand 2:2

Budget for 2051-2055

Wealth: 25
Upkeep: 15
Trade: 15

Net after trade: 25

Indonesia
+5 to Economy (11 points)
+5 to Civil (10 points)
+2 to Tech (4 points)

Total: 25 spent.

[Zid]

Trade:

Russia 5:5
South Africa 2:2
Iceland 1:1
Norway 1:1
USA 5:5

Upkeep: -15

Wealth +18

-2 Emergency aid to africa

Space expansion: -10 (+5 to space stat)

Economic expansion: -3 (+1 to economy stat)

Army expansion: -2 (+1 to ground forces stat)

Lunar Base: 10/20

Tech: Primary



The Brittish offers 2 points of army and 3 points of air and navy as peacekeepers. These forces are deployed in central Africa, covering at least two nations in turmoil and giving a total of two wealth point in emergency supplies to refugees and rebuilding efforts. They are expected to stay for at least five years.

[Moody the Wise]

[Attention UN Security Council Members]
(This is important, there are resolutions and a vote involved)

Address to the United Nations

Finally, with the latest round of governmental changes in Europe, it looks as though the conflict may be over. I formally rescind my resolution, although I wish to express my thanks to those nations that had the wisdom to support it, as it was at the time a prudent measure.

Still, the facts of the past cannot be ignored. The international community must join together to ensure that the Ukraine is rebuilt. As we no longer burden the EU successor states with the burden of guilt, so too must we not expect them to carry the whole burden of reparations. They need not do the lion's share, but they must do their fair share. We must call on them to make humanitarian donations to the Ukraine with no expectation of anything in return, as Indonesia and South Africa have already taken the bold steps of doing, and as Argentina will now join them in so doing. The NEU clearly has the resources to be a great partner in the rebuilding of the Ukraine, and should make a gift of some fraction of the trade deal it currently has extended to the Ukraine, as the Ukraine cannot be reasonably expected to give anything in return at the moment.

Unfortunately, the actions of the EU government are not the only problem facing the world right now. Though that atrocity outshines all else in its evil, we must not forget the other conflicts that threaten to consume our world.

Turkey has violated the sovereignty of the nation of Cyprus and defied UN peacekeepers already in place on the island. [semi-OOC: and nothing has been said yet about the fate of the two British military bases on Cyprus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akrotiri_and_Dhekelia). Our distinguished UN Secretary-General has already condemned this act, and we must now take action to prevent another atrocity.

I thereby put forth the following resolutions to the UN Security Council and General Assembly:

1. Turkey's forces must be withdrawn from the sovereign nation of Cyprus immediately. Failure to do so will result in a UN mission to liberate the island.

2. The UN recognizes the independence of the sovereign nation of Greece. Turkey must do so as well and cease its war with Greece, or a UN mission will be sent to enforce a trade embargo with Turkey.

3. UN Peacekeeping forces will be sent to Greece to prevent Turkish aggression and to serve as a staging point should a mission to liberate Cyprus prove necessary.

It is my hope that you all will follow Argentina's lead in promoting global security by voting in favor of these resolutions.

@Wizard: Do you think that the collected "whatever we can spare" of the non-player nations who are inspired by my speech and example can amount to a few points of wealth in donations to the Ukraine?

Also, Two points of Wealth sent to the Ukraine.
I won't mess with my trade deals, I'll just give them two wealth and keep my current trade deals - it's the same effect. For the record, my current trade deals (all confirmed, but just in case anybody wants to change them or has forgotten) are:

Brazil 3:3
Mexico 3:3
Canada 3:3
Japan 3:3
Uruguay 1:1
Paraguay 1:1

[Maldiem]

@Wizard

Cover X

Espionage check to find rebels with CMJS sympathies (2 dice spent)
Strength Primary, Cover Secondary
I rolled two 3's (post #10) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4048083#post4048083)-- does that seriously mean this is cover 0?

No Cover-- Counterespionage

3 points spent.
Strength 5.

[Zid]

Britain votes with Argentina in the Turkey-Cyprus resolution.

[El_Frenchie]

Indonesia


Robert Daniels asks Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, New Zealand, Singapore and Papua New Guinea to formally create a pact with Australia and each other to promise mutual military and economic support to defend against any possible attacks in the future from the unrest in Europe which is likely to spread throughout the globe. A name and exact guidelines for this agreement do not need to be made immediately and are expected to be reached over time.

Robert will wait for the response of these nations before doing anything else.

Indonesia would like to formally support this announcement by declaring its pact with Australia in both military support and economic issues.

"We will make the Indo-Pacific nations prosper."

Malaysia (but also carbon copies to Phillipines, Vietnam, East Timor, South-East Asia) (Oh, and Australia)

"We would like to extend a hand of friendship towards Malaysia. We would like you to consider our offer of a merger. Indonesia would bring you wealth and increase our productivity by at least a factor of 3 if we were to work as a single entity. The recent nuclear war in Europe has ravaged a smaller power and it seems that even today, global security is at risk. It is in this climate that we propose to form a congregate of South-East Asia (SEA).

We would act as a shield to any attacks, as we have quite a few defenses that are able to repel nuclear attacks. We have also an important army that we can use to defend our countries.

As direct consequence of your approval, we would transfer one wealth point towards your acceptance of this measure.

By uniting under the SEA flag, we would make sure that the Malaysia government officials would have a consequential amount of seats in its parliament.

SEA will be the future of South-East Asia communities and countries, our wealth, our power at the service of our people."

SEA is a project, and even if countries do agree to join, there will be a time of transition of about 5 years for every country so as to smoothen out the process as much as possible.


1. Turkey's forces must be withdrawn from the sovereign nation of Cyprus immediately. Failure to do so will result in a UN mission to liberate the island.

2. The UN recognizes the independence of the sovereign nation of Greece. Turkey must do so as well and cease its war with Greece, or a UN mission will be sent to enforce a trade embargo with Turkey.

3. UN Peacekeeping forces will be sent to Greece to prevent Turkish aggression and to serve as a staging point should a mission to liberate Cyprus prove necessary.

Indonesia says "Yea" to all the UN Resolutions above.

[Eldan]

The Japanese parliament votes yes on Argentina's ideas for Cyprus, after several influential politicians discussed the issue with the Shogun (who still, of course, claims to have no actual political power).

[LongVin]

Revised Statement:

Income:

25 Income from Wealth
11 Trade income
23 upkeep(115/5)

Spending:
Civil: 2 points
Economy: 6 points
Tech: 4 points
(1 point unspent)


Trade Partners:
Eu: 5:5
Switzerland: 1:1
Britain: 5:5

[Maldiem]

CMJS in the UN

The representative from the CMJS votes yes on Argentina's resolution to the Turkish-Cyprus issue. Additionally, it volunteers 3 units of Army, 1 unit of Navy, and 1 unit of Air forces in the event a military mission is necessary.

National Legislature Decries US Hypocracy

"Freedom of Assembly is one the basic rights granted to US citizens by their constitution. That the US would deny its own people the rights that are guaranteed by their own government is a savage travesty of the principals on which their nation was founded. The CMJS urges the protesters in the US to resist their oppressive governments with the same tactics pioneered by Martin Luther King Jr. a century previously. Through persistence and solidarity, your rights may yet be preserved."
-Official statement from the National Legislature Committee of Foreign Affairs

[Moechi_Vill]

[QUOTE=Wizard_of_the_Coat;4046671]1 division of Eu asircraft bombed Russia (1 russia, 9 ukrain). They did not bomb the Ukraine. From the wrekkage the Russians find it is evident that these were EU planes in every way.

Also 7 air comes from their action rolls. 5 action dice, giving rise to 7 points of primary effects (that being the air attack for aircraft in a default combat).

Um, but I stated that all interceptors are to be placed at war readiness, and Russia has the best radar system in the world.

And I still got bombed? :smallsigh:

Russian Blitz

Russia tanks stream across the Ukrain, mechanised troops assemble on the border to follow suit. The Russia Forces ignore any Ukranians, but are heading fast towards the EU border.

Good.


East European Unrest

Belarus and Moldova are beginnig to move forces to the EU border. In questions asked by the media at this evident move it is explained that EU operatives and terrorists have been caught by police forces, attempting to steal plans, sabotage soceity and prepare for invasion.

We will ask them to coordinate their movements with us, and will invite them to EAST to stave off the western threat, this or any future one.


Serbian-Greek Alliance

Serbia and Greece announce a mutual defence pact in response to the Turkish threat. Other balkan countries are invited to join, Ukraine amongst them.


We will also ask all of them to join the EAST, announcing we recognize Greece's independence; We will apologize about the delay, but we were occupied by the Nuclear event in Ukraine.


@Russia

your actions seem to be succesfull, but what is east? Armenia will likely accept your 2 troops, bt will not give up sovereignty, a trade and defence alliance is the best they will accept (for now).

We assure them don't want them to give up their sovereignty; In fact, as we stated, we want them to annex Azers with our help to end this little problem of ethnic mish-mash right there. EAST was specified in the pre-game talk, basically CIS 2.0 with mutual defensive support and trade zone.

Also, Importante!

We have 10 free points of trade free with that whole sad event occuring - PM us, and we will work something out!

Moeris Villera at the Hague
"There never was any order to attack Russia. Russia is a traitor and if I ever can they will pay the ultimate price. I ask that the people of the former EU remember this satanic act."

assuming New Zealand

"While we care little for international conflict it seems obvious to us that something is amiss and that the moral quality of Eastern Europe these days is exceedingly low."

[Nerd-o-rama]

As the period of rebuilding Ukraine's affected urban areas begins, Vasyl Dzubenko has begun making the rounds, overseeing efforts to rescue injured civilians and clear away the debris. Sometimes even genuinely pitching in himself: he's a big, active guy with access to excellent hazmat suits, so he sees no reason not to get out in the field and help his people.

Martial law is still in effect in Ukraine, but the surviving Verkhovna Rada has been reconvened in a secure location to formally oversee the military's actions.

@UN
Ukraine abstains from the current UN vote, but indicates that this is solely a gesture of goodwill to Turkey's peacekeeping troops, and further Turkish advances into the Balkans would be looked on as hostile actions.

@Eastern Europe
Ukraine reiterates its earlier foreign policy position of Eastern Europe's smaller powers banding together for mutual defense. Speaking from the rubble of the damaged section of Sevastopol Naval Base (which was not targeted with nuclear weapons, only conventional bombers), PM Dzubenko addressed his fellow leaders over television.

"Friends. I have said before that we are in a time of troubles. I take that all back. We had no idea a week ago of how troubled the times were. Now, more than ever, the peoples of Eastern Europe must come together and help each other. We ask for nothing more than cooperation in defending our lands from hostile powers. Ukraine will come to the aid of any who attack our friends, weakened though we are. And when we are again strong, we will never turn our backs on you. Every nation from Greece to Estonia is hereby offered a mutual protection pact by the Federal Republic of Ukraine, in addition to our earlier offers of fair trade and economic cooperation. I know my land has been savaged, and you may ask yourselves, 'what can Ukraine do for us?' I simply say to you that we will do no less for our allies than we will do for ourselves. When faced with an enemy, we will not back down. When given a challenge, we will overcome it. When all seems lost, we, all the peoples of Eastern Europe, will prevail if only we can work together. Thank you."

@Russia
The Ukrainian military formally transfers ownership of the recouped EU Air and Navy divisions to Federation Inc. Meanwhile, the Army enjoys their new, NBC-equipped German tanks.

(-1 Navy/-1 Air again when we get to the next turn.)

@New Zealand
Metagaming is rude.

[nothingclever]

Robert Daniel's agrees with the leader of Indonesia and because of his absolute rule over Australia he declares it will merge with Indonesia under the banner of South East Asia.

Robert will do whatever it takes to make his people accept his decision and reminds anyone who disagrees that his leadership has only ever helped Australia in the past and that the only realistic way to expand the boarders of its nation in a peaceful matter is to cooperate with its neighbors. Robert asks any dissenters what greater way is there to ensure the safety of Australia from nuclear attacks other than to unite with the nations of the South East? This decision will allow Australia to have the greatest say possible in the affairs of other nations to protect its own.

To South East Asian Countries
Robert also encourages other countries to merge because there is no reason to be left out of this agreement so long as they are given decision making power equal to their current overall strength. If any nations were to reject this union they would simply lose influence in the region because they no longer are as strongly related to Australia and Indonesia which together will make the most important decisions because there is no greater power in the South East than their own combined. In addition they would be saying they do not want to peacefully unite and defend the freedom of others which would only alienate them further.

This agreement comes as close as possible to guaranteeing allies that will stay true to their word and who does not wish for that when they witness what has recently occurred in Ukraine?

(Would union effect trade? Oh and just so you know Nerd-o-rama, Indonesia and Australia were not metagaming even though we know you didn't mention us. We just think this is the best idea since we want to be allies but not nuke anyone. I agree picking New Zealand definitely is after El_Frenchie's post though which even I did not know would go so far in response to mine.)

[Nerd-o-rama]

OOC: I was simply responding to New Zealand's jibe at my moral fiber, nothing to do with the political situation down there. No worries.

[Moechi_Vill]

Totally IC: New Zealand meant Russia's morale fiber for destroying its obvious (by its words and actions) ally the EU, over paranoia and suspicious incidents and acting like it was the best ally when it really had no trust, got all the benefit, and betrayed the one who did trust and got no benefit and was maneuvering him into the best position possible and was mocked, derided and disrespected by Russia, not Ukraine's fiber.

(I wanted to condemn both initially, but then I decided New Zealand would just say Russia's actions were suspicious in context with its history with the EU. Then you said metagaming was rude so I clarified it and I would not resist adding all of... 'that'. I've never been so devoted and so betrayed in a game like this. I did everything for Russia and he mocks me and makes me to be like a devil and him like an angel. No hard feelings though, sorry for taking it personally, read the end of this post... well, I guess the comments about my playing into your hands is OOC, but y'know... I did mean to play into your hands. Didn't betray ya. You'll find out I hope.
Mmmm... self righteous, but true. It smells great. Sometimes its right to not hold back, especially when people do not care for you... you have to care for yourself.

Oh and secret alliances are ok. I just acted too quickly, played with nukes and got backstabbed. Yes, I'm blowing smoke again. Or maybe its true. =^_^= :))

OOC: I'm quitting here too. If anyone wants to join this game's Grandfather game's chapter II I'm going to focus on it now. :)

Kthnx
Mkay NothingClever, now you can play in peace

Thank you WizCoat, for hosting this game. Its an improvement upon Manifest Destiny in some categories (which is an improvement on Saga of Nationstates in many categories)
No hard feelings Irbis, hope you have none to me, but if you do I understand. Thank you Nerd-O-Rama, for your help, I have much to learn that people will think bad things about you that aren't personal. thank you Viggo for your loyalty :), and Longvin too somewhat and thank you Squirrel for your neutrality, I was never going to harm you in any of my plans. :)

[viggo]

Oh, Turkey has always recognized the sovereignty of Greece. Cyprus has been in Turkish hands since the Phoenecians in the 9th century B.C. It became an official part of the Ottoman Empire in the 1500's.

And has everyone forgotten the atrocities of the Greek military junta that ran the country? Greece's exit from the EU and its swing to hypernationalism will inevitably result in more damage to the Turkish population of Cyprus.

We have no designs for the Greek homeland. They are free to do as they please as long as they stay out of our Exclusive Economic Zone, as outlined by UN law.

Moreover, the United Nations has no authority to remove Turkish troops protecting Turkish territory and Turkish people. It is a violation of our sovereignty and a violation of the U.N. Charter.

The British military bases are free to stay.

[Wizard of the Coat]

Greek Cypriot resistance

Greek Cypriot resistance forces are undermining Turkish operations in the area. In daring raids thought the coming months they severely damage the turkish military presence.

Turkish army takes 0.3 damage.

Greece rejoices at the resistors and denounces Turkish claims to the Islands.

"Technically all these lands could be claimed by us to, if we were willing to go back to the Byzantine Empire, or maybe we should lay claim to Alexander the Greats empire... Let us instead look at the will of the people, and not at the dictators of antiquity. The Greek Cypriots deserve their freedom." <excerpt of Greek UN speech>

Also do note Greece and Cyprus are both members of the UN, none of the the EU nations ever formally gave up their membership and still haven't. Though claimed as 'unfair' by many this did allow the EU a strong voting block.

Ukraine Defense pacts

Serbia and Greece cordially invite the Ukraine to become part of their alliance, that Romania and Bulgaria have recently signed up to as well. All minors in the region are entering talks to enter the Balkan Alliance.

Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania sign the defensive alliances with the Ukraine. Moldova and Belarus are more skeptical, wanting the Ukraine and Russia first to come to an agreement on mutual friendship and co-operation, before antagonizing either side.

SEA

New Zealand, New Guinea and East Timor would like to enter into an economic and defense co-operation with SEA, but reject to any loss of sovereignty.

@Moeichi: I'd like to give you Sudan or Ethiopia to play (relatively (=regionally) powerful minors...especially Sudan seems appropriate for you.). Nothing with neighbors controlled by humans as most of those are already in negotiations with players (would be unfair if their efforts suddenly were invalidated), but instead surrounded by NPC nations in conflict. THEY DON'T HAVE NUKES and don't hate the Ukraine or anyone else either.

[El_Frenchie]

New Zealand, New Guinea and East Timor would like to enter into an economic and defense co-operation with SEA, but reject to any loss of sovereignty.

SEA

Of the nations that are members of SEA, all will retain their autonomy and the sovereignty over their country. Though, should they wish to merge with either Australia and Indonesia is still a possibility.

Indonesia welcomes the new members of SEA: New Zealand, New Guinea and East Timor. We will favor trade with those countries that are members.

Article 1. Members of SEA have a liability, a responsibility of trading first and foremost with members of SEA.

Article 2.a. Members of SEA are given power in the organisation through the funding of a common army that is placed under command of Indonesian military officials. The larger the contribution, the greater amount of seats they gain in the Assembly. (This is calculated as a % of the military power they invest. For example, Indonesia's army is entirely dedicated to SEA. It will gain full seats in the Assembly (10 seats). If, say, Australia decides to dedicate all its army to SEA as well, the ratio will be 10:10 seats. If it decides to dedicate half, it will obtain a 10:5 ratio. If New Guinea joins in while dedicating 20% of its army to SEA, then the ratio goes to 10:5:2, etc.)

Article 2.b. No nation can have more than 10 seats in the Assembly .

Article 3. The UN's veto power is officially considered a great threat to the freedom of expression that SEA wants to allow to its members. There is no veto for either Indonesia (Founder) and Australia (Co-founder).

Article 4. All measures passed through SEA are to be passed with at least 90% of Assembly Seats. This measure is extremely prone to re-arranging once more countries join. This is mainly to prevent abuse from either Indonesia and Australia which will have a majority until other countries feel safe enough to invest military power.

Article 5. Although the SEA army will be under Indonesian military command, the Assembly will have its say on declarations of war as well as peacekeeping missions. Military Operations themselves, for the obvious reason of counter-espionage, will remain confidential information. In this regard, the congregation of nations in SEA will have power over Indonesia's army.

Malaysia

We are sorry to announce that we will not continue trading with Malaysia in the next 5 year period, as priorities go to SEA members.

[nothingclever]

Robert Daniels, as a founding member of the SEA, decides to invest his entire military in it. This is currently 5 army, 7 navy and 9 air which he assures members will become much larger soon.

Robert reminds his military that based on the voting system there is no way they will be forced to do something he does not agree with.

[Moody the Wise]

Quick post, I don't have much time, but I want to set the record straight about Cyprus. Maybe I'll polish it into a speech later. A quick glance at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus) will make Turkey's claims pretty ridiculous.

1. Cyprus has not been under Turkish control since the 1500s. It has been an independent republic since 1961, and that independence came from Britain, not Turkey.

2. In the 1974 Turkey invaded the island and made up its own "Republic of Northern Cyprus" which is not recognized by any country other than Turkey.

3. According to the 1960 census, 77% of the island was ethnically Greek Cypriot. Little has likely changed.

4. The Greek military junta was not a shining model of virtue, but that is no basis on which to illegitimatize the current Republic of Cyprus.

[nothingclever]

I know this OOC in an IC thread but besides thinking people should do a little more research it would be nice if people would give their leaders names and a tiny summary of how they run their countries in the other thread.

Robert Daniels is a dictator and has eliminated all political parties, merged Australia into 3 states instead of the original 6 but still calls himself Prime Minister. He is also in such complete control he can choose who the next leader is all by himself. I explained why he got away with this as his rule so far only being beneficial in every way rather than negative which reflects Australia's high tech and civil stats.

[Thymin]

Brazil votes in favor of the Argentinian proposal to the UN, in both the General Assembly and in the Security Council.

[viggo]

When we claimed Turks controlled it, we did not mean the Turkish government, rather the Turkish people. We have the right to secure the security of ethnic Turks, Kurds and Armenians.

As has been said many times before, all Greeks left on the island are free to leave at any time. They will be given free passage under any condition.

[Moody the Wise]

UN Address, Responding to Turkey

Comrades, the claims made by Turkey in attempted defense of its indefensible military action against the nation of Cyprus are ludicrous. The representative from Turkey has said "We have the right to secure the security of ethnic Turks, Kurds and Armenians." He is, of course, correct. We all have not only that right but that obligation. We also have a duty to protect the security of ethnic Greek Cypriots and the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus, a UN member state. Ethnic cleansing accomplishes neither of these aims and is impermissible.

And of course, none of us have forgotten the offenses of the Greek Military Junta that ruled Cyprus for a number of years in the past. However, that government is gone. We are dealing with the Republic of Cyprus right now, a responsible and decent state. Turkey would have the island of Cyprus pay for the Greek Military Junta of days past with the Turkish Military Junta today.

Turkey has also accused Greece of going through a period of "hypernationalism," and that if unchecked, Greece would do even more harm to Cyprus than Turkey has. If being appalled at the EU government over an unprovoked nuclear attack is indicative of "hypernationalism," then cuff me, bailiff, for I am guilty. And, I imagine, so are most of you, who supported my resolution of punitive measures to remove the EU government from power in the wake of that tragedy. The fact is that Turkey has failed to present any evidence that even suggests that Greece is a "hypernationalistic" state that would do harm to the ethnic turks of Cyprus, and as I look around I see none that could be presented.

Finally, Turkey has accused this resolution of violating the UN Charter. This would be true if it were a resolution to remove Turkish troops from sovereign Turkish territory. But this is not the case. This is a resolution to remove Turkish invasionary forces from the sovereign Republic of Cyprus, a UN nation in good standing. The UN Security Council is fully empowered to pass and enforce such a resolution, providing that diplomatic means have been attempted before any military action is taken. Diplomatic means are included in this resolution: they are the part where Turkish forces have the option to leave peacefully before they are made to leave.

I sincerely wish we could emphasize the diplomatic option further in this case, but it is not practical. Every day that Turkish forces spend violating the sovereignty of one of our member states is a slap in the face to this great organization, and this trespass cannot be tolerated. If we allow this to slide, it will open the door to similar actions in such a volume as they will be impossible to control, and the world will degenerate into chaos. In other words, we will have failed to uphold the founding principle of the United Nations. We must not let this come to pass.

Attention: UN Security Council members need to vote on this. Votes are still required from the following nations: Kingdom of Heaven (NPN), USA, Russia, China (PN, but MIA), Iran (PN, but MIA), Canada, South Africa, Switzerland, India (PN but MIA), Kenya (NPN).

The vote as it stands now is:

Yea - 4 (Brazil, Argentina, Britain, Japan)
Nay - 0
Abstain - 1 (Ukraine)

@Wizard: Should I assume that if Elektro doesn't report for duty as China soon, China will abstain from this vote?

[Irbis]

Two quick statements for now.

First, regarding EAST - EurAsian Strategic Treaty. Similar to CIS, it will be a trade organization, a defensive alliance for willing members and maybe something more for the future. We can proudly announce that the first round of talks in Minsk, capital of Bielorussia, as it wast considered neutral ground by both sides, were successful. First two members, that is, FR and Ukraine, agreed to pave way for all others willing to follow, as we are sending proposals to all central-european and balkan states that wish to join.

Oh, and we consider membership in EAST, GDI or that alliance Ukraine now offers independent from each other, although we would like these nations to join both ours and Ukraine's alliance network.

With this, we will consider our border with Ukraine open to any refugees, especially children and women, fleeing from contaminated regions. Such refugees will be registered and temporarily let into state-owned hotels, camps, well, into all free housing that can be spared now in the entire European part of Russia.

By the way - as other nations already did this, we also want to state that anyone with university degree willing to relocate into Russia will have their relocating, language learning and traveling expenses paid by our government; we will also help them sell their assets in their home country by offering them free services of our skilled clerks regarding these matters. These with higher degrees or these we will consider especially valuable can also bring their entire families with them and we will let them take a free, 0% interest credit helping them start their new life.

Incidentally - as Russia is a country with by far highest wealth rating per population [and currently the wealthiest country in the world] we feel that our offer is much better than those of other countries, considering that we can offer a place to live in virtually any climate within our borders, which will allow emigrants to choose one they feel is best.

[kentma57]

Canada votes no.

OOC: when does turn 2 start?

[viggo]

Turkey votes no on the resolution condemning the reassimilation of Cyprus.

The Turkish government will offer free education and housing discounts to any Turkish citizen that moves to Cyprus. Also, anyone who wishes to depart as a result of the reassertion of Turkish society on the island will have their travel costs paid by the government.

[LongVin]

The United States will be exercising its VETO POWER on the Security Council Resolution concerning Turkey and Cyprus.

We believe that it is not a matter for the UN and Turkey has a legal right to its actions in Cyprus in regards to the large Turkish minority present on the island.

[Elektro]

Xinhua News Agency

11 February 2051

Taiwan Declares Independence!
As China celebrated the New Year, the news of the Taiwanese Parliament's narrow vote to declare independence has sent shockwaves around China. Information from the government is non-existent, but widespread military mobilization is rumored to be occurring. Reports of civil disturbances across China cannot be confirmed at this time.

12 February 2051

Ultimatum Issued by Chinese Government, Quemoy Shelled
The government issued an ultimatum calling on all Taiwanese to "rise up against the capitalist running dogs who have torn you from your brothers" at 0300 Beijing time today. The ultimatum threatens the use of force to return Taiwan to the fold, including "the use of all available weapons in possession of the glorious People's Army." An army spokesman confirmed that Quemoy is being shelled by rocket artillery. Naval and air skirmishes in the Strait are also being reported

Reports of civil disturbances have increased, but no word has yet been received on the topic from the authorities.

15 February 2051

Invasion of Quemoy Launched!

Chinese marines and advanced units of the PLA are said to have invaded the island of Quemoy early this morning. The island has been under heavy shelling for the past 3 days. Fighting is said to be heavy but reports on casualties and progress are unavailable.

18 February 2051

Invasion Force Destroyed While China Faces Turmoil

There has been continued silence from Beijing on the invasion of Quemoy. Taiwanese media claims a great victory and the destruction of the invasion force, along with the majority of Chinese naval and air assets in the theater.

The situation is confused in the capital, with a noticeable army presence after a series of attacks targeting government offices and party leaders. Unconfirmed reports suggest that the 3rd People's Shock Army stationed in Hunan province has revolted and named Changsha capital of the new "Free and Democratic Union of Chinese Peoples." More news breaking...

25 February 2051

Quemoy Destroyed in Chinese Nuclear Attack as Widespread Fighting Engulfs Beijing

Chinese officials announced the destruction of the entire island of Quemoy from a nuclear strike at 0815 this morning. This has been confirmed by Taiwanese sources and local reports of blast and thermal evidence from the mainland in the vicinity of the island. Chinese officials threaten to unleash further destruction on the Taiwanese mainland unless they immediately capitulate.

Widespread fighting is being reported in the outskirts of Beijing. Partisans and deserters calling themselves the true People's Liberation Army are pushing towards the city center. Flames can be seen from Tienanmen Square and the main avenues into the city are a warzone. Vast areas of southern China, including Hong Kong are reported to be in the control of anti-government forces.

26 February 2051

Beijing in Flames; Situation Confused

The anti-government forces have continued their unopposed march into Beijing. The remnants of the Communist government have whole up in the Forbidden City area. The anti-government forces are enjoying widespread civilian support and support from deserting army units. Eyewitness accounts place Tienanmen square in anti-government hands, and both Mao's mausoleum and the People's Hall are burning.

Reports seem to indicate that PLA forces throughout the country are joining the rebellion, including commanders of the PLA's nuclear arsenal.

1 March 2051

Ziyou News Agency - China is Free!

The glorious forces of democracy and liberty have destroyed the corrupt and genocidal Communist government! The body of "comrade" Mao has been hacked to pieces like the murdering scum deserved. All of China rejoices in this new dawn of freedom and prosperity for all of China!

[Moody the Wise]

UN Address - Sent to all major US news outlets as well

My friends, today is a sad day. The United States has taken it upon itself to advocate for Turkey's so-called "right" to ethnic cleansing. The USA should have no problem, then, if the Mexican government invades the Southwestern United States, or if the Cubans invade Florida, or the Germans Pennsylvania, and demand that all others leave. Somehow, I doubt that the same legal principle would apply.

It would have been one thing to veto the resolution on the belief that a liberating mission would only spark more violence in the region. I strongly disagree, but that at least would have been a respectable opinion. To claim that Turkey has the right to invade a sovereign nation to protect a minority population that was not being oppressed and order the emigration of the majority of the nation's people with no pretext is deplorable. To the USA, it seems, justice is nothing more than a game. May the USA one day have the pleasure of experiencing its own sense of justice.

Regrettably, I must now concede this fight to the forces of evil and vice. The men and women of Argentina stood ready to lead by example, as we always have, in carrying out this liberating mission, but without a UN mandate we cannot act. Not only does the Turkish military outnumber our own, we cannot leave our land undefended in a world where nations like the USA exist. After all, it would take but a few US citizens living here to give the USA the right to invade us. You may think my fears unjustified, but they have done it before. Remember the Alamo, comrades, remember the Alamo.

@Wizard: Even though voting is no longer necessary, I'd still like to know how the NPN Security Council members might have voted, and how popular the resolution was in the General Assembly, as a measure of international opinion on the issue. Also, I'm sending this to major US news outlets - their people have a right to know what their government thinks of justice.

[El_Frenchie]

Indonesia

Indonesia would like to be the first to welcome new China onto the world stage.

We look forward for the best, and to consolidate your new position, offer our military and political support.

Indonesia voted yes to Argentina's resolution.

[Elektro]

A New Dawn - 1 February 2052

The feeble rays of a Beijing dawn cast their yellow light on the platform draped in red to celebrate the New Year. Much has changed since 11 February of last year, now named the Day of Heroes in remembrance of those who lost their lives throwing off the yoke of the Communists. China is also celebrated the birth of its new government this day. The new Premier, Li Fo-tzu, steps to the podium that bears the simple red banner of the Chinese Union.

"Today is a new dawn for our great nation. Too long has China suffered under cruel and self-defeating leadership. From the Qin emperor to the hated Communist apparatchiks of yesterday, China's leaders have been willing to treat its people as simply another resource to be ground up in their mad quest for power. No longer will this be the case.

The last year has seen much sorrow and senseless violence, but out of the tempest a seed of hope has been borne. Hope that we will be free from tyranny and oppression. Hope that the river of Chinese blood throughout the centuries will finally dry up. Hope that we can finally have the prosperity and benefits so cruelly deprived from our ancestors.

We have nurtured this seed in the fertile hearts of you and I and it has grown into the China we celebrate today. A China free of fear and terror, bustling and prosperous, and free from foreign entanglements. Look around and rejoice in what fortune has finally bestowed upon our nation.

With that, the Premier leaves the podium and returns to the raucous crowd to ring in the New Year.

Overview


China now has a democratic government that guarantees all basic human rights. Power is primarily in the local provinces, with only supervisory powers vested in the national government in Beijing. The economy is free-market with only environment regulations limiting commerce and free flow of capital. China is strictly isolationist, and has largely removed itself from the international scene. China focuses on profitable arrangements with local small powers, but will trade with other great powers.


Orders


China will engage in 2 units of trade with Taiwand and Vietnam, 1 with Laos.

[Zid]

Let me remind my fellow UN members, that we already have resolution regarding Cyprus: United Nations Security Council Resolution 186. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_186

The USA has obviously no regard for it´s obligation to the republic of Cyprus. What has ever happend to diplomacy?

[Irbis]

UN Stance

Ladies and gentlemen, as it seems now the Security Councils is deeply divided. Voting now would be a waste of time, it seems. But, we have to answer one question that our illustrious Argentinian friend made. What would be our vote if there would be indeed one?

Frankly, we don't know.

As it stands now, the resolution called only for withdrawal of Turkish troops. while that goal in itself might be acceptable, its aftermath would not be. We all remember what happened to, for example, Serbs when Serbia withdrawed their army from various parts of the RoY, especially Kosovo. They were ethnic cleansed in turn, by the victors. Unless the resolution was changed to fully protect Turks by entire might of UN in the case of Turkey's withdrawal we would only face a replacement of one wrong by another, this time by RoC.

So, as it stands now, this resolution is sadly unacceptable to us, as it was to US, as it will only bring about more bloodshed by not realizing what its long-term consequences might be. We learned that in hard, way, too, when sixty years ago the Soviet Union was divided. We left all these countries counting on their goodwill, and while such civilized ones like Ukraine and its neighbors kept to at least a modest understanding of human rights, we also saw many different groups oppressed by majorities in now free countries, that turned out to be far worse in that regard than everything that Soviet Union ever produced.

In fact, Russia will make a statement about that matter soon.

[Eldan]

Daily Sunrise: Japan welcomes China on the World Stage

Today, the Shogun personally adressed the population from his house in Kyoto.
"While I am not an official speaker for our government, I would like to welcome the new china. All Tensions between our countries will end, like you ended your old government. We welcome you as followers of democracy and freedom. I will happily advise our parliament to once again start full diplomatic relations between our nations.
May your peace last for ten thousand years.

Daily Sunrise: Regarding Cyprus

A speaker of the parliament announced, that they are very disappointed in the decision the US has made regarding Cyprus.
"Once again the veto Power of the one has proven to be able to stop all actions for the good of the many. A sad day for the UN, democracy and the entire humanity.
Now the US should at least take responsability for their decision, and propose their own draft of a resolution."

[viggo]

Turkey Gladly Welcomes New Chinese Government!

We gladly welcome the rise of the new democratic government of China. We regret the occurrence of a nuclear civil war, and any aid Turkey can offer for cleanup need only be asked.

Turkey issues ultimatum to Greece and Bulgaria

Any attempt to reclaim Cyprus will be seen as an act of war. This includes the actions of Greek military units. Stop the insurrections against Turkish military units. Much like the areas of Turkey controlled by Armenians and Kurds, Cyprus will enjoy much autonomy in governing their local affairs.

Turkish statement to the United Nations

We still respect this organization as an arbiter of international peace. Given the rabble-rousing of the new Greek international position, our pre-emptive move was in the spirit of UN Resolution 186 -- maintaining peace on Cyprus.

We also wish the Argentinians would shut their ****ing mouths and quit saying we're ethnically cleansing. Perhaps we should ethnically cleanse loud-mouthed Communists, hmm?

Fret not. This is where our use of military force for border expansion ends. We were merely securing the territory in our Exclusive Economic Zone, outlined by United Nations law, specifically the Law of the Sea Treaty. We plan no reprisals against the civilian population, but we do encourage those displeased with the new government to pack their bags.

If the Argentinians are so concerned with the safety of Greek Cypriots, perhaps they will join us in paying for the peaceful relocation of these people?

Cyprus will maintain its seat in the United Nations and will retain the majority of its sovereignty. Anyone is free to run for office in the new Cypriot Autonomous Republic (CAR). "Here in my CAR, I feel safest of all, I can lock all my doors, it's the only way to live, in CAR..."

Turkey welcomes an independent Taiwan to the international scene!

Turkey recognizes Taiwanese independence and establishes diplomatic relations with them. An embassy is under construction, and diplomats are en route to the nation as this statement is issued.

We propose the following resolution to the United Nations:

1. Membership in the General Assembly will be increased to include Taiwan.
2. Taiwan will have all the rights and privileges extended to members of the United Nations.
3. We encourage the Taiwanese government to ratify all applicable international agreements, such as the Geneva Convention, Non-Proliferation Treaty and Law of the Sea Treaty.
4. We also resolve to give the first Taiwanese delegate to be re-seated a round of applause for their work with the World Health Organization on a purely volunteer non-state basis.

[LongVin]

The United States would like to welcome the New Chinese government onto the world stage and is interested in working out positive relations with the new chinese government including trade deals.


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The United States would also like to officially recognize the independence of Taiwan at this time and we will be supporting the Turkish resolution inviting Taiwan to join the United Nations at this time.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Ukraine officially recognizes independent Taiwan (as we did before) and the new government of China.

Ukraine has officially joined EAST in the interest of military and economic cooperation with Federation Inc. Ukraine invites its allies in mutual defense pacts to also join EAST, but adds that they are by no means obligated to, as the defensive pacts and EAST are separate organizations.

Ukraine's UN delegate has urged a diplomatic solution to the situation in Cyprus, rather than saber-rattling and heavy-handed resolutions that will not pass veto power anyway. The situation calls for a peaceful solution that takes into account the people of Cyprus (of all ethnicities) as well as the interests of the Greek and Turkish governments.

Ukraine apologizes for the formulaic post with a lack of flavor text.

[Irbis]

Russia will cautiously proceed to agree with our colleagues in recognising the new government of China as it seems victorious and in the control at the moment. We would like to begin normal relations (including trade) with them at the government's convenience [meaning - we still can trade up to 5 points with them].

As for Taiwan, Russia will wait for China's official stance as we don't want to put a stain on our relations so soon and the status of an island after these events is unclear as we don't know if Taiwan won't join this new China as soon as it can.

[Moody the Wise]

UN: Warning - New Resolution; Vote Required

Comrades, do not be fooled. Turkey would have you believe that its interests in Cyprus are and always have been peaceful, and that there are not and never have been human rights abuses going on. Listen to the following statements excerpted from the original Turkish press release regarding the matter.



Greek independence from the EU will not be tolerated. Cyprus is sovereign Turkish territory. Since the massive increase in Greek nationalism can only be seen as a threat to Turkey, we are forced to declare war on Greece. We have no designs for Greek homeland territory, but Cypriot Greeks have two weeks to depart for safer climes.

Several military detachments were sent out from Turkey today ... 4 were sent to Cyprus to secure the ancient Turkish control of the island.

4 [army units] to Cyprus to **** the Greeks up.


Now, if the recent turnaround reflects a genuine concern on behalf of the Turkish government to clean up its act rather than a shallow attempt at political posturing, I would welcome this change. On the other hand, we cannot afford to simply assume this is the case. Therefore, I am compelled to put forth a new resolution, one that I hope will be acceptable to all parties involved:

1. Turkey will open the island of Cyprus to unarmed UN inspectors that will closely monitor the proceedings for human rights abuses.

2. Turkey will abandon its policy of forced emigration of Greek Cypriots, and allow those already forced to leave to return if they wish.

3. The Republic of Cyprus will retain full sovereignty. Initial elections will be held under UN supervision. Turkey may act only as a protective steward of the island, and shall make no effort to incorporate the nation of Cyprus into the Turkish state against its will, to any degree.

If Turkey is sincere in its new humanitarian concerns, it will gladly accept these terms.

As for the resolution to recognize Taiwan and to welcome it into the UN, Argentina votes yea.

Lastly, I would like to make it clear to all that the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, which Turkey has invoked as a proper rationale for the armed invasion of Cyprus, is no rationale at all. The Law of the Sea, and in particular the concept of Exclusive Economic Zones with which Turkey is so infatuated, recognizes the rights of coastal nations to the exploration and use of resources contained in the sea zone claimed by said nations. It says nothing about invading islands, unless Turkey wishes to define sovereign island nations as "marine resources."

edit: [OOC] Viggo, I hate your politics, but I love your Gary Numan reference.

[viggo]

*takes off his shoe and throws it at Argentina*

How's THAT for human rights abuses!

You're nothing but a dangerous demagogue. All you do is sit around and draft speeches and resolutions to the United Nations. We really wish you'd cut it out.

No Cypriot was ever forced to leave.

You have no evidence of human rights abuses.

New elections are already underway.


For WizCoat's eyes only
reallocate the 5 spy on Greece to rigging the election in Cyprus. I want to install a Greek who's actually pro-Turkey.

[Wizard of the Coat]

Voting on Cyprus

Kenya votes affirmatively and the Kingdom of Heaven both abstain from the vote on the first Argentinian resolution. Both however vote yes to the second.

((@turkey: you are not on the security council and cannot vote...you could lobby to come on it during the next term however))

Cypriot rebellion continues

Turkish military personnel are having a hard time dealing with the rebels and a raid by rebels on the harbor they manage to severely damage and sink several Turkish warships killing hundreds of sailors.

-0.5 Navy for Turkey.
@turkey
your espionage indicates greece is shipping weapons to the rebels.
Greek Cypriots prepare for elections

Though they are likely to badly attended the elections yield a surprisingly succesfull candidate, or at least so would the media have the people believe. The unknown Greek Nicolas Nourianzis is seems supported by the media, he is clearly against any kind of interference an refers to turkey as 'a friend that keeps the peace'. Polls indicate that he will likely win over two thirds of the vote with his 'Peoples Peace Party', enough to amend the constitution...

Independent foreign media call him 'a Turkish puppet', still it seems to international observers present (yes there is still a large UN force on cyprus...even if they do stand idly by) that there is no funny business from the Turks and that the run up to the elections could be a fair one.

Greece and Serbia prepare for war

Greek and Serbian troops have been spotted by news camera's in the region as assembling vast numbers of troops near the Turkish border. The large combined force could seriously impair the Turkish ability to maintain the stranglehold it currently has over Cyprus as it seems that a fleet is currently in route towards the island and a land invasion is underway against European Turkey.

Greece and Serbia both request Russia and Ukraine to support them, as well as other Balkan minors. Still the other minors seem to only have their forces at the ready, but want to see the course taken by the Ukraine and Russia first.

Armenia-Azerbaijan war

Despite a surprisingly large number of Russian tanks caught on news camera's on Armenian soil it is the air support provided by Pakistani and Kazakhstani air forces that are giving Azerbaijan the upper edge in the fight.

Georgia asks for membership in EAST, seeing the potential of cross border violence spreading as Rebel groups in Russia seem to be stirring. It is evident that their equipment has been updated recently as several Russian tanks are lost. ((no significant losses yet, consider it a warning))

[Thymin]

The United Brazilian Federation:

A speech in the general assembly about Turkish aggression and occupation of Cyprus:

I stand here before all the nations of the world in full agreement with Argentina. The attack by Turkey on the island nation of Cyprus were completely unwarranted and opportunistic. I know that many of you already understand the gravity of the situation. I also know that many of you have been influenced by the Turkish rhetoric. In an attempt to shed much needed light on this subject I would like to take a minute to reconsider the facts of the case.

1) In the wake of the European Union's self destruction, the nations of Greece and of Cyprus declared themselves independent of the European Union.


Greece and Cyprus Secede from the EU.

2) Turkey issued a statement that:
a) Greece's independence from the EU would not be tolerated
&
b) That Cyprus is sovereign Turkish territory


Greek independence from the EU will not be tolerated. Cyprus is sovereign Turkish territory.

Both of these claims are laughable under any modern understanding of sovereignty or self-determination. Both of these nations were independent and sovereign nations even before they broke their ties with the European Union, so Turkey's claim that it somehow has a right to decide for the independent people of Greece and Cyprus is flat-out ridiculous.

3) Turkey invades Cyprus, ignoring the presence of UN peace keepers. They manage to take control of the island, but the resistance movement is not destroyed but only forced underground.


Turkish War

Turkish forces are assembling over Cyprus. UN peacekeepers present can do little as divisions of turkish tanks roll over the barriers and head into european cyprus. There is a little resistance, but the Island is essentially turkish territory as the cypriot army heads underground.

UN secretary General says he is appauled at turkish lack of respect for the UN peacekeeping force and the right to self determination for the cypriot people.

4) Argentina calls for a resolution that would require Turkey to remove it's forces from Cyprus, recognize Greece's sovereignty, and for the international community to send UN peacekeeping forces to Greece.


I thereby put forth the following resolutions to the UN Security Council and General Assembly:

1. Turkey's forces must be withdrawn from the sovereign nation of Cyprus immediately. Failure to do so will result in a UN mission to liberate the island.

2. The UN recognizes the independence of the sovereign nation of Greece. Turkey must do so as well and cease its war with Greece, or a UN mission will be sent to enforce a trade embargo with Turkey.

3. UN Peacekeeping forces will be sent to Greece to prevent Turkish aggression and to serve as a staging point should a mission to liberate Cyprus prove necessary.

5) Turkey began to recant on it's earlier statements but refused to leave the island of Cyprus and claimed that the proposal for Turkey to leave the sovereign lands of Cyprus were an infraction against Turkey's sovereignty. I think this truly shows how little respect Turkey has for other nations.


Oh, Turkey has always recognized the sovereignty of Greece. Cyprus has been in Turkish hands since the Phoenecians in the 9th century B.C. It became an official part of the Ottoman Empire in the 1500's.

And has everyone forgotten the atrocities of the Greek military junta that ran the country? Greece's exit from the EU and its swing to hypernationalism will inevitably result in more damage to the Turkish population of Cyprus.

We have no designs for the Greek homeland. They are free to do as they please as long as they stay out of our Exclusive Economic Zone, as outlined by UN law.

Moreover, the United Nations has no authority to remove Turkish troops protecting Turkish territory and Turkish people. It is a violation of our sovereignty and a violation of the U.N. Charter.

6) The Cypriot rebel forces continue to fight for their independence from Turkey, thus strengthening the case for their right to national self-determination.


Greek Cypriot resistance

Greek Cypriot resistance forces are undermining Turkish operations in the area. In daring raids thought the coming months they severely damage the turkish military presence.

Turkish army takes 0.3 damage.

Greece rejoices at the resistors and denounces Turkish claims to the Islands.

"Technically all these lands could be claimed by us to, if we were willing to go back to the Byzantine Empire, or maybe we should lay claim to Alexander the Greats empire... Let us instead look at the will of the people, and not at the dictators of antiquity. The Greek Cypriots deserve their freedom." <excerpt of Greek UN speech>

Also do note Greece and Cyprus are both members of the UN, none of the the EU nations ever formally gave up their membership and still haven't. Though claimed as 'unfair' by many this did allow the EU a strong voting block.

7) Unfortunately, and for unknown reasons, the United States decided, in the face of overwhelming international support to exercise it's veto power to halt the progress of the proposal, thus thwarting the hopes of the international community that the UN might be able to do some good and right the obvious wrongs done by Turkey, and set the Cypriot people free.


The United States will be exercising its VETO POWER on the Security Council Resolution concerning Turkey and Cyprus.

We believe that it is not a matter for the UN and Turkey has a legal right to its actions in Cyprus in regards to the large Turkish minority present on the island.

8) Emboldened by the US complicity, Turkey issues the following statement:



Turkey issues ultimatum to Greece and Bulgaria

Any attempt to reclaim Cyprus will be seen as an act of war. This includes the actions of Greek military units. Stop the insurrections against Turkish military units. Much like the areas of Turkey controlled by Armenians and Kurds, Cyprus will enjoy much autonomy in governing their local affairs.

Turkish statement to the United Nations

We still respect this organization as an arbiter of international peace. Given the rabble-rousing of the new Greek international position, our pre-emptive move was in the spirit of UN Resolution 186 -- maintaining peace on Cyprus.

We also wish the Argentinians would shut their ****ing mouths and quit saying we're ethnically cleansing. Perhaps we should ethnically cleanse loud-mouthed Communists, hmm?

Fret not. This is where our use of military force for border expansion ends. We were merely securing the territory in our Exclusive Economic Zone, outlined by United Nations law, specifically the Law of the Sea Treaty. We plan no reprisals against the civilian population, but we do encourage those displeased with the new government to pack their bags.

If the Argentinians are so concerned with the safety of Greek Cypriots, perhaps they will join us in paying for the peaceful relocation of these people?

Cyprus will maintain its seat in the United Nations and will retain the majority of its sovereignty. Anyone is free to run for office in the new Cypriot Autonomous Republic (CAR). "Here in my CAR, I feel safest of all, I can lock all my doors, it's the only way to live, in CAR..."


I believe that the audacity and irrationality of this statement speaks for itself, but in the interest of making everything poignantly clear:

First, there was no "rabble-rousing" as you claim, on the part of the Greek nation.

Second, your abusive ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abusive_ad_hominem#Ad_hominem_abusive) against the Argentinian delegate is uncalled for and only helps the world to see the true colors of Turkey's international policy. The claim that you are ethnically cleansing comes from your own mouth. You are taking over a sovereign country in order to "liberate" an ethnic minority of the "oppression" of the ethnic majority. You also leveled an ultimatum that those of the Greek ethnicity were being forced off of the island and must relocate. While you later backed down from these claims after the international community began to condemn your statements, no rational being ought to believe those things you said when under pressure over those things that you uttered freely.


Finally, your claim that you took a preemptive strike to maintain peace in a country that was already peaceful is simply insane.

9) The farcical voting process begins in Cyprus while rebels continue to fight the oppression of the Turkish invaders, and Greece and Serbia begin to mobilize their armies for war with Turkey.



Turkey issues ultimatum to Greece and Bulgaria

Any attempt to reclaim Cyprus will be seen as an act of war. This includes the actions of Greek military units. Stop the insurrections against Turkish military units. Much like the areas of Turkey controlled by Armenians and Kurds, Cyprus will enjoy much autonomy in governing their local affairs.

Turkish statement to the United Nations

We still respect this organization as an arbiter of international peace. Given the rabble-rousing of the new Greek international position, our pre-emptive move was in the spirit of UN Resolution 186 -- maintaining peace on Cyprus.

We also wish the Argentinians would shut their ****ing mouths and quit saying we're ethnically cleansing. Perhaps we should ethnically cleanse loud-mouthed Communists, hmm?

Fret not. This is where our use of military force for border expansion ends. We were merely securing the territory in our Exclusive Economic Zone, outlined by United Nations law, specifically the Law of the Sea Treaty. We plan no reprisals against the civilian population, but we do encourage those displeased with the new government to pack their bags.

If the Argentinians are so concerned with the safety of Greek Cypriots, perhaps they will join us in paying for the peaceful relocation of these people?

Cyprus will maintain its seat in the United Nations and will retain the majority of its sovereignty. Anyone is free to run for office in the new Cypriot Autonomous Republic (CAR). "Here in my CAR, I feel safest of all, I can lock all my doors, it's the only way to live, in CAR..."


Those are the indisputable facts of the case. Ultimately, regardless of Turkey's claims to the contrary, they have brought yet another war to the European conflict, rather than avoiding one. This one so soon after such devastation and bloodshed had just occurred in Ukraine.

I propose to you all, the members of the general assembly, that we revoke the membership privileges from this barbaric and uncompromising opportunist nation, Turkey. Their actions have been in direct violation of our rules of membership (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations#Membership), and they have continued to stand defiantly against those things that the UN was created for. I would also like to remind all of the other nations in the Security Council to remember our charge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations#Security_Council) to maintain peace and security from such aggressor nations as Turkey.

Thank you all, I trust you all to make the right choice.

[viggo]

The Greek Nicolas Nourianzis is clearly against any kind of interference an refers to turkey as 'a friend that keeps the peace'. Polls indicate that he will likely win over two thirds of the vote with his 'Peoples Peace Party', enough to amend the constitution...

Independent foreign media call him 'a Turkish puppet', still it seems to international observers present that there is no funny business from the Turks and that the run up to the elections could be a fair one.

To the vocal South American powers:

UN inspectors have validated the election of the new leader, who is Greek. Attempts to invalidate this election are massive disrespect to democracy, which all of us, as members of the United Nations, tout. There are no human rights violations. No one was forced to leave the nation. The people of Cyprus have exercised their rights to self-determination, which you so wholeheartedly support. Let them be.

We do not wish Cyprus to be a member of the Turkish state. We respect their rights as a sovereign nation.

Our claims of a new Greek junta are supported by the election of a new Greek who supports the Turkish assurance of fairness and democracy in the nation. The people of Cyprus desired a fair and just nation, Turkey, being a more powerful influence in the fate of Cyprus.

The Turkish people remove their support for an independent North Cyprus. That was the old regime's policy. Turkey is more than happy to allow the people of Cyprus to vote however they may please, and it appears they approve of the insurance with which we have so gracefully blanketed the nation.

An Open Letter to the People of Greece and Serbia

The Turkish government does not desire another run-up to the conditions that sparked World War I. Your governments have decided to recreate these conditions. The people of Cyprus decided to rid themselves of the influence of the Greek government, who more and more is looking like the junta of old. Surely the citizenry does not desire a return to the atrocities of old.

The Turkish government formally endorses any democratic movement against the government of Greece.

Fifteen thousand master crafted Turkish Delights arrive at the Capitol in Athens!

"May your belly be full and your life be in interesting times. -- Turkey"

Turkey declares war on Greece!

We warned you, dear Greeks. We will not abide your interference with a democratically elected government off our coast. We warned you not to send arms to the rebels, but you persisted! We will not start aggression, however. It is incumbent upon you to spark this unnecessary bloodshed.

Do not fire a single shot against Cypriots or Turks, or we will bring the wrath of God Almighty, Through His Various and Sundry Prophets upon you. One more Turk or Cypriot dies as a result of your meddling, and surely this war was started by you.

@WizCoat
Let's have the peacekeepers in the Ukraine spread out. Maintain a fairly concentrated force, but split the armies in to the capital and the top 2 major cities. Have the navies concentrate in the top 3 port cities.

Also, will there be any population movement to speak of from the Ukraine as a result of the assisted-immigration policy?

[Nerd-o-rama]

Ukraine would like to politely inform Turkish peacekeepers that their presence is no longer needed. You all can go home and do your own thing now, we and EAST have things covered here.

[viggo]

Turkish Peacekeepers Go Home, Re-Deploy in Western Istanbul

[The Squirrel]

@ Austria, Lichtenstein
Before formalizing your ties to the NEU, I have just recieved confirmation from the Senate that we are willing to offer both of you the chance to become a Swiss protectorate. We offer the diplomatic, military, and economic stability of our humble nation; while you choose to stay with us, we will offer your citizens the same benifits of our citizens, we will work to strengthen your economy, protect you from invasion, and help you develop economically. In the long term, we can discuss options for reorganizing your state to become an independant nation, remaining a protecterate, or perhaps even merging with Switzerland to form a new nation. We have always shared strong geographic, cutural, and diplomatic ties, and wish to continue in these amicable connections, even should you decide your fate lies along a different path.

@ NEU, Kingdom of Heaven
It warms our heart to see two wonderful nations rise from the old Union. Might we continue our past commercial exchanges? (1 point of trade each)

@ wizard

"I confronted him in his chamber last Sunday, mere moments after the attack and have been in there with him for a week. Surely he saw the error of his ways in supporting Satan. God has forgiven him and taken him too him, for those who truly repent, truly are without blame.
New pope? I want details. Cause of death of the previous pope? What did the Swiss Guard witness? What are their thoughts and impressions of this new pontiff? Was he elected through the proper channels? Did he just kind of take charge through charisma alone? The Swiss Guard are still the pope's main guardians, yes?

[Irbis]

Russia's official stance about recent events:

@NEU, KoH:

With the disintegration of the whole EU we are willing to overlook these blatant acts of war your previous leadership has made and give you a credit of trust. However, we still expect you to:


Make necessary reparations to Ukraine,
Replace old, corrupted governments that still might cling to power in various states,
Make a fully democratic elections, observed by as many UN observes will be necessary, especially in states that border us, that is: Finland, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary.
Immediately end any and all forms of discrimination based on ethnicity, language, race, and especially religion;
Withdrawing your forces beyond a buffer zone of 100 km from any neutral country's border until after these elections will take place;
To immediately give up to the UN High Tribunal any and all leaders and personnel that might be associated with nuclear attack on Ukraine, and any and all leaders and personnel responsible for the following air attack on Ukraine and Russia, to be tried according to UN agreements concerning Crimes against Peace and Crimes against Humanity;


We would also like you to show a token of goodwill by either relinquishing your remaining naval assets on Black and Baltic Seas to Russia and Ukraine and your remaining planes, especially these used for attack, based in any country bordering Russia and Ukraine to our countries as well, but we can settle for withdrawing these armaments to North Sea and Atlantic ports and these aircraft to Germany and France, respectively, thus rendering the zone between 10 and 40 degree longitude a demilitarised zone for airplanes and ships [save for these few needed for policy missions] rendering the continent as a whole a more safe place. You certainly understand our concern after that traitorous strike, correct?

As for KoH, Russia will, for a time, observe your stance to see if our assessment that your [France, that is] seat in UN truly belongs to peaceful nation and not to the previous regime and thus doesn't need to be revoked along with veto power.

Oh, and one more note: we noticed that Kingdom of Heaven, while being a fine name, sounds conspicuously like something better fitting previous style of thinking of a certain regime. We hope it is merely a coincidence, and you will do everything to maintain your commitment to peace.

As for other post-EU states on our border, namely the three Baltic ones - Russia will try to negotiate as good relations with them as possible, sending right now a mission that will help them to make a transformation from theocratical styling of a country to a modern democracy, including as many policy, military and economy experts to train a new cadre for these states as they need, so that they doesn't have to be forced to rely on the dignitaries of the old regime. As we had many... misunderstandings about human and religious rights in the past, we also intend to make sure that our neighbours will become free from the superstitions and oppression, a modern states that may become an example to all. We also want to invite them to EAST trading and defence structures as a token of our goodwill, as well as Moldavia and Bielorussia.

[Nycthemeron]

BBC, Cape Town, South Africa: South african representatives on the UN Security Council abstained yesterday on the proposed resolution censuring Turkey, they also voted yea on the recognition of Taiwan in compliance with their earlier establishment of diplomatic relations. Her Majesty Queen Diana herself also made a surprise visit to the United Nations, making an impassioned speech to the Security Council to stem the growing tide of conflict in Europe.

Agence France Press, Cape Town, South Africa: The South African government today dispatched new ambassadors to the former European Union. His Grace Johnathan Slack, the royal chaplain has been given papal approval to take up a secular position as the Crowned Republic's ambassador to the Kingdom of Heaven whilst career diplomat Robert van Tonder has been made Her Majesty Queen Diana's ambassador to the New European Union.


@Wizard, Eyes only.
I want to deploy my navy and airforce to the mediterranean, the Aegean particularly as a peace keeping force to stop the Turks, Greeks and Serbs blowing each other to hell.

I'd like to use all my Spy to cover this up until its a fait accompli.

I am sorry but I don't quite get the espionage rules, Primary effect I want to be hiding the troops, I apollogise for being useless, could you assign points as you see best after that? Thank you.

[Irbis]

Russia, Inc.

To the eyes of mr. President, only:

Report of All-Russian Trade Commitee:

Trade:

Canada: 7
UK: 5
Turkey: 5
Britain: 5
Ukraine: 3

We will propose 5 points to both Belarus, on 2:2 basis, and to NEU, on 3:3 basis.

Total: 30

Report of Ministry of Foreign Relations:

Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia and Russia are now all EAST members. Seeing that Moldavia and Belarus only wanted to wait to see if we cooperate they are free to join at any time they want.

Special Military and Equipment Committee:

We now have minus -0.6 in air forces, per attack of EU,
and +1 of air and navy, per KoH reparations. Our scientists have already began examining these new airplanes and ships, as well as their armament, and they are being manned and incorporated into our forces now. Also, we can count on forces provided by our EAST allies, but until a common command network has been established it is hard to say on how much.

Report of current operations:


I want anything discreetly raised to war-time readiness, since we seem to have a new crisis on the horizon. That includes air forces monitoring our southern border with fighters ready to be scrambled at any time if there is any signal about an attack from central Asia. That also includes the whole of nuclear arsenal.
Also, we will begin withdrawal of our divisions from Ukraine to their bases in Volgograd, one at a time.

Report of current GRU and FSB operations [espionage]:

As previous operations reached their goals, the accompanying forces will move on to new targets:

Rolls: http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1527152/ [in order, 4d6, 6d6 and 8d6 per operation]

Varsity [4 spy]
GM only! Strength: 7 Extra Benefits(?): 3

Counter espionage, as the new developments are disturbing. We especially want proofs who is smuggling weapons into our country, who's is their producer and where they are supposed to be used.
Rainbow 2.0 [6 spy]
GM only! Strength: 11 Cover: 4 Extra Benefits: 1

Specnaz teams that are currently deployed into Armenia and Azerbaijan will receive portable air defence systems with their orders changed - they are to proceed to Azerbaijan to gather proofs of foreign intervention, who are the nations involved and what they are using in the conflict. If they can shoot down several foreign planes and document that, the better. First team with proofs and/or pieces of the plane will receive Hero of Russia medals and all benefits that go with it. Their cover: Chechen mercenaries.
Ragnarok [8 spy]
GM only! Most Important! Cover: 19 Strength: 11 Extra Benefits: 5
I told you it's GM only, right?Time for a little retribution. GRU will prepare our newest multirole nuclear stealth submarine to insert five best GRU teams we have on hand. Meanwhile, we will wait for two above operations to yield results. These responsible will see that Russia won't forgive of forget.

[Nerd-o-rama]

((Man, I entirely missed the last GM post. Which is weird because I've posted since then.))

@Greece and Serbia
Ukraine is asking its allies to continue seeking a diplomatic solution to the Cyprus problem, rather than going so far as invading Turkey, which seems like needless escalation. And trust us, we know about needless escalation. We'd really like to see this end without either side starting violence, and believe that the situation can be defused without bloodshed.

We are asking Turkey one more time to end their occupation of Cyprus. At least give them time to respond.

As an additional note, Ukraine can not speak for Russia or EAST as a whole, but has asked the Federation to at least stay neutral in the conflict if they do not come in on the side of the Balkan states.
Ukraine is also continuing to make polite inquiries as to more complete reparations from the KOH and NEU. Their last diplomatic dispatches have not, in the opinion of Ukraine's state department, adequately addressed our concerns. We are also supporting the Russian requests for a semi-demilitarized zone. Russia's other requests, we feel, are a matter for the UN, but we fully support them in that venue.

[El_Frenchie]

SEA Declaration (Indonesia, Australia, New Guinea, East Timor, New Zealand)

(edit)note: These are members of SEA. It has nothing to do with the information being directed to them specifically. Everyone can have a look.(/edit)

Article 1. Members of SEA have a liability, a responsibility of trading first and foremost with members of SEA. They also are to be protected as well as protect the other countries in SEA.

Article 2.a. Members of SEA are given power in the organization through the funding of a common army that is placed under command of Indonesian military officials. The larger the contribution, the greater amount of seats they gain in the Assembly. Member countries possess one seat by default. (This is calculated as a % of the military power they invest. There are 10 chairs to gain from dedicating military power. (100%))

Article 2.b. No nation can have more than 11 seats in the Assembly.

Article 3.a. For nations that do not desire to dedicate part of their armies, navies or air forces to SEA military, they have the option of gaining seats through military funding. (2 Wealth point == 1 seat.)

Article 3.b. All nations in SEA are required to fund SEA Military Corp every 10 years. (1 Wealth point). The method of gaining seats is no different. Refer to article 3.a.

Article 4. The UN's veto power is officially considered a great threat to the freedom of expression that SEA wants to allow to its members. There is no veto for either Indonesia (Founder) and Australia (Co-founder).

Article 5.a. All measures passed through SEA are to be passed with at least 90% of Assembly Seats. (Except article 4.b.) This measure is prone to re-arranging once more countries join. This is mainly to prevent abuse from either Indonesia and Australia which will have a majority until other countries feel safe enough to invest military power.

Article 5.b. To reclaim any portions of army from SEA military, the resolution will have to be put through the assembly at a 60% majority. The amount of seats gained through the % concerned are lost for that nation.

Article 6. Although the SEA army will be under Indonesian military command, the Assembly will have its say on declarations of war as well as peacekeeping missions. Military Operations themselves, for the obvious reason of counter-espionage, will remain confidential information.

Article 7. If a SEA country deeply rejects actions of SEA Military Corp. or are concerned about a violation of human rights, they can appeal to the Assembly for sanctions towards the Indonesian government with a 'go-ahead' majority set at 60% of Assembly Chairs.

Current Assembly Chairs:

Indonesia: 11 A. chairs.
Australia: 11 A. chairs.
New Zealand: 1 A. chair.
New Guinea: 1 A. chair.
East Timor: 1 A. chair.

SEA Military Corp

Army: 12
Navy: 19
Air: 16

[viggo]

Turkey's research for the turn

advanced solar cells primary, synthetic foods secondary

4,1,3,5,6,4,3,2,+0
Total:28

15 primary
5 secondary
1 tertiary

[Nerd-o-rama]

Ukraine's research for turn 1. Rolls (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4061029&postcount=11). Wow. Ridiculously productive. I guess we work well under pressure, nyet?

Primary: I'd like to prioritze Nuclear Fallout Scrubbing as primary, even though you didn't list that as a category. I'd rather like to have it.
Secondary: Synthetic Foods.

If I can't select fallout scrubbing as a category, make Synthetic Foods Primary and Nuclear Fusion secondary.

Primary: 16(!)
Secondary: 9
Tertiary: 4

[Maldiem]

"Nations, like children, go through phases. At first they will be selfish and violent, lashing out at their peers at the slightest provocation, greedily coveting everything in sight merely because someone else does. The battlecry in these situations, both playground and battleground, soccer field and killing field, is often some derivative of 'No fair!'. It is only later that we realize that fairness and justice are not the same thing, and one is often detrimental to the other."
--CMJS cover letter, "A Comprehensive Guide to Socialized Childcare"

CMJS Offers Itself as a Neutral Party for Turkey-Greece Peace Talks

Both Turkish and Greek diplomats are invited to the facilities in Mexico City, to talk through the issue without violence. The CMJS issues a public statement, that any war is deplorable, especially one over something so petty, and a diplomatic solution is much preferable to a murderous one.

@Wizard:

Not sure about cover, asking Wizard about it. Do not read until then.

Clandestinely selling 1 unit of Army to the previously located CMJS-sympathetic rebels at a 3:1 ratio (in northern or western Africa, if we can swing that). We promise that we will sell them much more in the immediate future, but we're waiting to see how they use it, and if they stick to their ideological guns when they're given more power. They are warned that ethnic cleansing and unnecessary bloodshed will be met with aid for their enemies. CMJS spies will watch the group as it uses the units. This uses 4 of my total 6 clandestine capacity. What's the cover value for this operation, and do I need to spend an espionage point to watch the rebels?

[Eldan]

Japan announces research budget

While Japan has been very quiet on the international scene lately, the Shogun was busy traveling around the country, visiting various new corporations founded as a result of their new economy policy. After carefully studying the current market situation, he announced that Japan would invest in corporations and universities researching the following subjects:

Advanced solar cells: (Primary - 13)
Quantum Computers: (secondary - 1)

"Japan has always looked up to the sun. Now it will once again provide us with power, as the Sun's power is the mightiest in the system."

[Wizard of the Coat]

SEA

The lesser SEA nations aren't too happy about the charter as it stands. They want the option to fully withdraw their military and don't want Indonesia to always be in command. They propose instead a free withdrawal of forces after each 5 year term and an integrated command structure in which a council of 3 generals makes the decisions, needing a full affirmation of all to condone action. One general should be from Indonesia, one Australian and one rotating between the minor members. It is unlikely they will commit any forces without these demands.

Singapore and Malaysia are considering joining with SEA and has formally requested membership, though it is likely that it will support the other minors in their desires.

Cyprus in the UN

It seems most minor nations abhor the Turkish actions and Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Britain, Indonesia and other powers that are in support of the Cypriot cause are gathering a lot of support in the UN and improving their international standing.

The US, Canada and Turkey are reducing their international standing by their actions. Public protests in Canada and the US are ongoing against the Turkish actions. Turkey however finds it's people rallying behind their government.

Russia and the Ukraine's neutrality seems to render them immune to blame.

Chinese Breakup???

With the Chinese no longer claiming Taiwan the peoples sentiments in other occupied regions shifts against the Chinese government. A rebellion breaks out in Tibet, east Turkistan and trouble seems to be stirring even in Inner Mongolia and Hong Kong.

China in regions
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger2/5070/319977243211643/1600/120349/gse_multipart35342.gif

Taiwan says it fully support the independence movements. Mongolia has announced it's entry into the Central Asian Pact, but also seems to be mobilizing, claiming 'it does not want the inner Mongolia trouble to flare up further and threaten to spread borders'.

Spanish Terrorism in USA

Explosions in major cities all over the USA are followed up by an announcement of the "Hispanic Liberation Front" ((naturally the name is in Spanish, but you'll have to forgive my lack of linguistic knowledge)) that "the new slaves of the US demand their freedom from the USA and the territories captured from Mexico be returned to the rule of their Hispanic owners ."

1 Economy is lost by the US as targets include financial centers, high technology companies and other economic resources. In addition the Hispanic strikes and riots prevent 1 point of resources from being extracted.

Caucasus Breakaway

Several minor russian states in the Caucassus have voted in their assemblies to break away from the Russian Federation, the new weapons, that seem remarkably similar to what Azerbaijan is using to fight armenia, empowering them to do so.

((OOC: note: i'm giving all great powers struggles to deal with. Power comes at a price and this is an unstable time))

map:
http://www.colorado.edu/ibs/waroutcomes/pics/ethnicMap.jpg

Central Asian Pact

The Central Asian pact now includes Pakistan, Kazachstan, Mongolia, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan.

Cypriot Struggle continues

0.2 Army is lost as the Cypriot resistance attacks their bases.

@turkey
generals are asking their government if they are allowed to 'use any means' to end the rebellion or if there is a political solution (probably requires a cash and/or spy influx, and isn't automatically successful)

EAST GROWS

All of the Ukrains allies, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, sign up to east. Moldova and Belarus likewise join.

East now holds: Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova and Belarus.

Balkan Alliance

Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania still invited the Ukraine to join the Balkan Alliance.

Balkan-Turkish War

@viggo: please state the numbers of forces and where they come from 'peacekeepers go home' means nothing to me as I have to go back and look it up. I am likely to ignore messages without numbers.

For now I assume that you have:

Cyprus
3.5 armies
2.5 navies
4 air force

Istanbul region
2 army
2 navy
2 airforce

Ankara Region
3 army
2 navy
2 air force

The Greek and Serb military seem not to attack, but they offer turkey an ultimatum.They do however set up a blockade, aided by Romania and Bulgaria.

@Turkey: "As per the request of the Ukraine we shall give you one final chance to leave Cyprus. If you do not cease your occupation we shall use air, sea and ground forces to force you to liberate the island. "

@Ukraine: "We expect that you will aid us in our commitment if Turkey refuses to relinquish it's hold on Cyprus."
((note: likely diplomatic penalty with these countries if you refuse to place action behind your words))

Serbian-Greek Forces:
4 Army
4 Navy
4 Air

Bulgarian-Romanian Forces:
5 Army
2 Navy
3 Air

(note: they will likely not deploy everything at once, holding some back for home defence. Also Bulgaria and Romania are only blockading you in the Black Sea)

Effects of the Blockade (if unopposed): Trade with Russia (also due to unrest in Caucasus), Ukraine, Europe and Northern Africa blocked, trade with middle east (1/3 of total max) still possible.

NEU and KoH

Both are interested in trade with all nations of the world, but also continue to want to trade heavily with each other. (assume 10 points are avaiable in total, with I believe turkey, russia and switserland allready claiming a part of it???)

KoH and NEU are not responsible for the actions of a mad dictator/the antichrist. Your demands are in direct violation of the sovereignty of these member states and we do not agree. (russia suffers a diplomatic penalty with both).

((note the combined points for these two somewhat exceeds the EU (not so much in military, but other area's yes), remember member states did not give everything to the collective, to some extend the EU stats represented the degree of control of the central government; they are not weak by any measure...KoH could even be considered a great power in it's own right with the tithes from catholics worldwide, especially in South America))

Still it seems the two have concluded talks on an aid package for Ukraine, agreeing to share the burden. The combined economic aid offer comes in the following agreement:


Turn 1: 10 points of wealth are granted directly for economic reconstruction. (+5 Economy)

Turn 2 10 points of trade are offered in turn 2, requesting in exchange that the newly generated 5 point of economy are used for trade back to NEU and KoH and that all the trade income from turn 2 under this trade goes to economic development in the Ukraine. (10-5 trade/ the 10 trade received goes into +5 economy)

Turn 3 The trade offer is 10 trade from NEU and KOH in exchange for 10 trade from the Ukraine. (10-10 trade)

Switserlands offers of protection of Lichtenstein and Austria are welcomed. Still Austria becomes a part of the (purely administrative) greater Germany. In effect making it a region that both the NEU and Switserland protect. A treaty agreeing to this 'dual protection' is offered by NEU, making Austria a far more autonomous region in NEU then most others. Switserland is also offered membership in NEU, which is far more like the european union of the early 21st century then the super state that was just dismantled.

Fallout from Ukraine

Ukraine, The Balkan region, Russia, KoH and Turkey: All receive -1 resources for 1 turn due to fallout that litters their fields and ruins their agriculture. A famine could be expected by some unless this is actively resolved. There are 3 points of fallout in total and each requires an investment of 1 wealth to clean up. (remember you could opt to 'just clean your bit', requiring 1 wealth from Ukraine and 0.5 for each other nation)

@all: If not handled collectively and fully you each receive -1 economy due to market unrest and damage from fallout. (KoH and Balkan minors have opted to just clean their bits, but refuse to do more)

((balkan region refers to the whole, not individual nations))

((to all: opening your borders to Ukrainian refugees might help a bit, but don't count on a huge bonus.))


World Economic Slowdown

The world economy is slowing down due to the recent nuclear troubles and the ongoing conflicts in mayor nations.

investing in economy costs 3 point for every 1 increase in the stat during turn 1...yes this means you have to recalculate

Still perhaps all nations in the UN could prevent this if they somehow made a unified effort to counter this. WTO and IMF experts warn that continued troubles would not help resolve the situation and that probably some kind of collective improvement in governance is needed to counteract the problems. Further escalation could even cause a recession.

((@Ukraine, unless this unified effort is sufficient, the KoH and NEU offers in effect are not as effective in turn 1))

SHADY DEALS

Could those of you conducting shady deals with rebels groups in any region (Africa, Russian Caucasus, USA, Native South Americans, Chinese etc..) and I have not addressed your actions yet please PM me with them. I'm having some difficulty with knowing what goes on in this area.

NEW ACTIONS can still be posted in this thread, but any old actions not PM-ed will be ignored.

(essentially I want an overview of shady actions if they are not covered yet in any of my posts)

[viggo]

Reallocation of Turkish military
Cyprus
3.5 armies
2.5 navies
2 air force

Istanbul region
3 army
3 airforce

Ankara Region
3 army
3 air force

Black Sea blockade breakers
4 navy (I don't want them to fire unprovoked, but a heavy escort for every ship with trade goods should cover it).

A Speech to the United Nations

Our ports have been unfairly blockaded by several Eastern European nations. We reiterate, once elections have been resolved, all but a few Turkish troops will leave the island. We have already begun a scale-back of our forces with the removal of 2 air groups.

To our European, Russian and Ukranian allies, your well-being is harmed by the actions of these illegal blockades on my ports. I urge you to help me break this blockade.

It is ESPECIALLY heinous as a result of the cutoff of Turkish goods to Ukranian people attempting to recover from their recent disaster. How DARE you hand injury to these people in such a way?

[Wizard of the Coat]

Armenia
2 army (These have been here since I posted my orders... what's the deal with them?)

Please PM me the link (this was meant by the last point in my post...I don't have a good view of who's doing what in that respect due to the large amount of players and the fact that I have to still instruct my CO-GMs (was going to do that starting turn 2, just so I could run turn 1 as a kind of pilot) )

Also I looked at your budged post. You cannot upgrade the population stat (simply not allowed), or the social stat (as it's a combination of other stats) (though I think that by the social investment you are seeking to quell unrest, which is a fair investment, but won't raise your social stat).

[Nycthemeron]

Channel Africa, Praetoria, South Africa: BREAKING NEWS . . . BREAKING NEWS . . . BREAKING NEWS.

Moments ago the South African Government issued a statement on all domestic broadcast media channels, the statement reads as follows;

"It is the solemn duty of Her Majesty's government to inform the people of the Crowned Republic and the international community that the SARN and SARAF have deployed a task force to the eastern Mediterranean for the purpose of peacekeeping in the region. These ships and planes have been deployed in the spirit of peace in order to protect civilian and neutral shipping and air traffic and to deter further hostilities between the Baltic, Turkish and Hellenic Nations. It is our great hope that the United Nations will look kindly upon this measure and that the presence of neutral forces in the region will facilitate a diplomatic resolution to the current crisis."

Initial reports suggest that an unknown number of vessels and planes are currently being tracked by a variety of national radars though by what means this task force was deployed are currently unknown. The international community's reaction has yet to be seen.

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In other news the South african government has decried the Hispanic terrorism in the USA, stating that violence is never a valid way to express even legitimate grievances. The Foreign office also issued a statement regarding the independence movements in the Caucuses and China, declaring its support for the principal of self-determination and the sovereignty of Nations. The government has called for negotiation between factions to reach an equitable solution.

---

The Home Secretary has declared that the South Africa will be open to unrestricted immigration by refugees from the Ukraine and the provision of full access to the nation's socialised healthcare and special subsidised housing.

---

A large force of South African ships and personnel are in international waters in the Mediterranian, though their exact numbers are hard to determine and how they go there is a mystery.
espionage
cover 5
4 navy and 4 air in Mediterranean

[viggo]

Turkey's Updated Spending

4 to Civil, brokered deal with Armenians and Kurds should stop any sabre-rattling. Also, Kurdish history is now required curriculum alongside Turkish and Armenian history in schools. It will be phrased as unified history rather than individual to bring everyone closer together. Statues of Armenian and Kurdish leaders will be raised outside the capital in Ankara, as well as in key tourist areas along the Black Sea and Mediterranean.

10 to Army, raising total to 14. These units will be specially trained in nation-building techniques -- policing, distributing resources, languages, et cetera. One of these specifically will be trained from Armenian troops for the actions in Armenia.

10 to Economy. 2 of this will go to education, identifiying the youngest and smartest children and putting them in intensified educational programs. Another 2 will go to scholarship programs for these children if they are unable to afford universities. An aggressive exchange program will also be established, focusing primarily on the most effective economic nations -- the United States, Japan, Germany and the like. 4 will go to expanded infrastructure -- an effort to have broadband internet access in every home in the nation, much like South Korea, as well as a government-run free library of every book ever published ever. The last 2 will be in tax breaks to the following sectors, in order -- high-tech, heavy industry, medical. This will be focused 75% on building up domestic industry, but 25% of this will also be for foreign direct investment in a special area along the Mediterranean coast.

2 to radiation cleanup, particularly reclaiming lost resources.


Cyprus
3.5 armies
2.5 navies
2 air force

Istanbul region
3 army
2 airforce

Ankara Region
3 army
2 air force

Black Sea blockade breakers
4 navy (I don't want them to fire unprovoked, but a heavy escort for every ship with trade goods should cover it).
2 air force (let's buzz the blockade ships, Russian-style. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UODA4G0&show_article=1 No firing, but harassing the sailors and keeping them on high alert. Any one of them goes down is causus belli.

[viggo]

Turkey Calls for Sanctions against Blockaders!

I hate to sound like a broken record, but those nations blockading Turkish ports are in CLEAR violation of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, or the Law of the Sea Treaty. They are invading sovereign Turkish territory, and any further presence will not be tolerated.

The government of Turkey hereby formally requests the punishment incumbent upon violations of this treaty, which are economic sanctions and a revocation of voting rights in the United Nations.

double post ftw.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Yet another revision to Ukraine's spending

Revised Budget (Turn 1)

Wealth: +10 (1+4+5)
Trade Income: +10 (Global Free Trade for first turn)
Upkeep: -8 (44/5)
Total: +12

Army: +2 (4 points)
Air: +2 (4 points)
Economy: +1 (3 points)
Fallout Cleanup: 1 point
Total: -12

Spending details were given in the last post on this subject, the change being that, as the economic recovery plans began to go overbudget and fallout cleanup's cost was assessed, some of the military rebuilding was cut.

Ukraine cleans its own fallout sectors, and apologizes that they do not yet have the capability to aid their neighbors in their own cleanup.

@KOH and NEU

That deal is acceptable, and we thank you for your kindness and responsibility in this matter.

Revised Trade Summary (Turn 1)

Total possible exports: 10 (4+6)
Nation (Give:Receive)
Russia (3:3) Confirmed
Belarus (1:1) NPC
Romania (1:1) NPC
Bulgaria (1:1) NPC
Balkan Minors (1:1) NPC
Turkey (3:3) Confirmed
South Africa (0:2) Confirmed (Humanitarian Aid)
Switzerland (0:1) Confirmed (Humanitarian Aid)
KOH and NEU (0:10) Confirmed (Reparations earmarked for Economy spending)

Total: (10:23)

If I missed any offers from anyone, let me know.

@Wizard: Since I can already scrubs fallout, I guess my research priorities are Synthetic Foods and Nuclear Fusion.

[Wizard of the Coat]

4 to Population. (From the rules post: "Population grows naturally, but can also be improved through government programs.")


Sure, but is was later changed in a later post. Population cannot be 'grown' like that (well not yet at least...once you develop the right tech though). Remember the rules were fluid during the creation process, this was changed when I was diversifying population, economy and resources. I will amended it slightly as i can see that this might cause some trouble.

It simply isn't possible to 'breed population' at the kind of rates that might be possible without the right set of technologies. ((hint: look at the life science technologies, but I'll give no further tips on this for now..some of the ones currently available are precursor techs for this)). It simply doesn't make sense that people could 'double' population in 5 years.

The government programs might have a sleight impact, but as a GM I'm not going to bother with that as I'd have to sift through each individual budget.

[Eldan]

Daily Sunrise presents: "The Shoguns thought of the day"

What China now faces is the direct result of it's millenia-old history of imperialism. The Iron Fist of Communism has been lifted and China once again tastes the air of freedom. But now, others want to do the same. If China can't offer them a reason to stay, then it should be their right to leave. As much as we sympathize with China, we also believe in the freedom of choice.


Oh, and Japan's budget stays the same.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Sure, but is was later changed in a later post. Population cannot be 'grown' like that (well not yet at least...once you develop the right tech though). Remember the rules were fluid during the creation process.
Oh, it was? I bought a point of population, but flavored it as "rapid evacuation of civilians from the fallout zones", bringing my population score up to what it was before the attacks. Is this cool?

[Wizard of the Coat]

Oh, it was? I bought a point of population, but flavored it as "rapid evacuation of civilians from the fallout zones", bringing my population score up to what it was before the attacks. Is this cool?

No it is not.

I'm sorry for not having all the rules in one place. I was going to do that with the onset of turn 2. I had no idea this game would be so popular and have such an immense OOC threat so quickly...

[Nerd-o-rama]

Well, more planes for me then. Updated budget in the above post. It's cool, but I'm definitely looking forward to a more complete ruleset.

[viggo]

Updated previous post, sorry about the confusion.

Turkey Petitions Former EU Nations for Economic Assistance with Radiation Cleanup

[El_Frenchie]

SEA

The lesser SEA nations aren't too happy about the charter as it stands. They want the option to fully withdraw their military and don't want Indonesia to always be in command. They propose instead a free withdrawal of forces after each 5 year term and an integrated command structure in which a council of 3 generals makes the decisions, needing a full affirmation of all to condone action. One general should be from Indonesia, one Australian and one rotating between the minor members. It is unlikely they will commit any forces without these demands.

Singapore and Malaysia are considering joining with SEA and has formally requested membership, though it is likely that it will support the other minors in their desires.

Indonesia agrees with the nation-members of SEA about the charter. It also officially admits Singapore and Malaysia in the pact.

"Indonesia is now working on a new charter that will satisfy the current issues raised by the new members. We also encourage the Philippines to join in the current talks to provide its own input."

SEA Declaration (Indonesia, Australia, New Guinea, East Timor, New Zealand, Malaysia, Singapore)

note: These are members of SEA. It has nothing to do with the information being directed to them specifically. Everyone can have a look.

Bolded articles: Changes made.




Official SEA Nations Charter

Article 1. Members of SEA have a liability, a responsibility of trading first and foremost with members of SEA. They also are to be protected as well as protect the other countries in SEA.

Article 2.a. Members of SEA are given power in the organization through the funding of a common army that is placed under command of Indonesian military officials. The larger the contribution, the greater amount of seats they gain in the Assembly. Member countries possess one seat by default. (This is calculated as a % of the military power they invest. There are 10 chairs to gain from dedicating military power. (100%))

Article 2.b. No nation can have more than 11 seats in the Assembly.

Article 3.a. For nations that do not desire to dedicate part of their armies, navies or air forces to SEA military, they have the option of gaining seats through military funding. (2 Wealth point == 1 seat.)

Article 3.b. For nations of SEA that have not dedicated the minimum of 10% of military power (Which is one seat), they are required to fund SEA Military Corp every 5 years. (1 Wealth point). The method of gaining seats is no different. Refer to article 3.a.

Article 4. The UN's veto power is officially considered a great threat to the freedom of expression that SEA wants to allow to its members. There is no veto for either Indonesia (Founder) and Australia (Co-founder).

Article 5.a. All measures passed through SEA are to be passed with at least 80% of Assembly Seats. (Except article 4.b.) This measure is prone to re-arranging once more countries join. This is mainly to prevent abuse from either Indonesia and Australia which will have a majority until other countries feel safe enough to invest military power.

Article 5.b. Any nation can freely reclaim any portions of their army from SEA military after every 10 year-term. (This is to prevent abuse to gain chairs, and in the same turn, vote, then remove military)

Article 6.a.The SEA army will be under the command of 3 Generals: A representative General of Indonesia, Australia, and a rotating general from the other nation members. They will decide, at a majority, how to put the army to its best use.

Article 6.b. The Assembly will have its say on declarations of war as well as peacekeeping missions. Military Operations themselves, for the obvious reason of counter-espionage, will remain confidential information.

Article 7. If a SEA country deeply rejects actions of SEA Military Corp. or are concerned about a violation of human rights, they can appeal to the Assembly for sanctions against the current general representatives with a 'go-ahead' majority set at 60% of Assembly Chairs.

Article 8.a. The Assembly may vote on the specific research areas for SEA Research Inc. facilities. SEA Research Inc. is a common area where willing countries dedicate the entirety of their scientific assets towards researching a common goal.

Article 8.b. Countries that do not dedicate to SEA Research Inc. will be able to buy Breakthroughs from the Institute. All the wealth points gained in those transactions will be re-invested in Research. Unless voted for by the participating researchers inside the Assembly, transactions will not occur outside SEA members.

Current Assembly Chairs:

Indonesia: 11 A. chairs.
Australia: 11 A. chairs.
New Zealand: 1 A. chair.
New Guinea: 1 A. chair.
East Timor: 1 A. chair.
Singapore: 1 A. chair
Malaysia: 1 A. chair.

SEA Military Corp

Army: 12
Navy: 19
Air: 16

SEA Research Inc

Indonesia, Australia

[Maldiem]

"An old survey concluded that ninety percent of drivers feel that they are better drivers than average. This opinion, while mathematically impossible, persists in almost every area of the human condition. Capitalism is popular because everyone, from the richest oligarch to the poorest farm worker, thinks that, in some way, they are better than everyone else. Capitalism allows them to fantasize that their selfish aspirations, founded in their arrogance, may one day come to fruition. It takes a more mature society to realize that it is in everyone's best interest for this dreamy selfishness to go the way of Divine Right, Slavery, and Mercanitilism."
--"Claro y Simple" (The Movement informational pamphlet)

CMJS Proposes a Solution to the Aegean Conflict

While it was disappointed that Turkish and Balkan diplomats turned down their offer, the CMJS would nontheless like to propose a solution to the mounting crisis that they feel could be satisfactory to both parties and prevent a war. The National Legislature Committee of foreign affairs today proposed a solution to the brewing war in the eastern Mediterrenian:

-Turkish military units will withdraw from the ethnically Greek portions of the island, along pre-invasion borders.
-Free elections will be held in both portions of the island (yes, even the Greek portion-- the presence of the Turkish military certainly influenced the outcome), overseen by intelligence operatives from willing nations. The CMJS offers 1 point of espionage for precisely this purpose. The international community will recognize the outcome of these elections as a legitimate expression of self-determination, regardless of their outcome (yes, if the Turkish portion of the island votes to set up a Turkish Republic, the international community will recognize that, as well).
-All forces will immediately cease all hostilities and withdraw to a safe distance to avoid confrontation.

Hopefully this will result in elections that are both legitimate and satisfactory to all parties, which can be reached without a pointless war.

CMJS Attempts to Squelch Violence in the US
@Wizard (please don't tl;dr)
The National Legislature today approved a measure asking the Provincial Legislatures for a sum of money to be used in the organization of the CMJS-sympathetic elements of US society into coherent, peaceful protests, rather than the deplorable terrorism that it is currently. Funding, and the pressure of the CMJS civil element, will be used to educate US citizens abroad in the CMJS on the teachings of the CMJS, effective, nonviolent protest techniques, and rhetoric. This funding will also go to advertising campaigns in the US, calling for an end to the violence of the Liberation Front, and advertising the peaceful protests that are being implemented in their place. It will also go to funding an organization of the movement along democratic lines, to put measures on the ballot in US elections for Liberation Front sticking points.

(1 point of wealth sent to CMJS Liberation Front Organization)
Post number 22 in rolling thread--
4 points of Civil are directed to this action:
8 Primary (organizing and spreading the movement)
2 Secondary (quelling their previous violent activities and making damn sure the movement is peaceful)
1 Tertiary (DM boni)

English, Portuguese, French Become Additional Official Languages

The National Legislature today approved a measure making English, Portuguese and French official languages of the CMJS, and instituting quadra-lingual education throughout the country. They feel the new official languages will allow them to better interact with their neighbors and conjure a sense of regional unity, as the four languages that are spoken most in Central America and the Caribbean are now on all government documents.

CMJS Research

Subject to change, yada yada.
Post 21 in the rolling thread
14 Primary (Fossil Fuel Extraction)
3 Secondary (Nuclear Fusion)
1 Tertiary

[kentma57]

News Clip
With recent economic changes (stupid 3 to 1 ratio) Canada has decided to reavaluate it's spending for the next 5 years. Also in response to public opinion a direct form with the goverment for any concerned citizen, and new action will be taken based on the public suggestions. (GM: what does my population want)

OOC: New actions to be posted soon...

[nothingclever]

Revised Australian Spending
+11 to Technology

Since Australia is already the richest country based on a wealth to population ratio and it has been completely untouched by war Robert Daniels has decided to invest in technology rather than the military or economy.

Australia freely offers to share all its research with members of the SEA so long as they promise not to share research with countries outside the organization.

He says this is in SEA's best interest because immediately sharing technology with outsiders would remove any competitive advantage it would receive above other nations.

Currently Australia plans joint research with Indonesia (and any other SEA members who would like to) in these fields:
Primary: Advanced Solar Cells
Secondary: Supra-molecular Chemistry

Australia's research results so far are:
25 primary
9 secondary
2 tertiary

Australia declares itself the future leader in all pharmaceutical and genetic research.
Australia's current primary focus is researching solar power but once this study is complete it will move on to other fields such as:
Synthetic Foods
Genetic Medicine
Body Replacements
Supra-molecular Chemistry

Australia welcomes any donations from countries that are interested in these fields since the sooner it completes its studies, the sooner they will be made available to the public.

All forms of genetic and pharmaceutical researchers will automatically be accepted into Australia if they wish to immigrate and they will receive funding for all their research so long as it appears promising and funds are spent appropriately.

Australia also agrees with all changes made by Indonesia to the SEA charter.

[Gig_Complex]

People’s Holy Republic of Persia, Turn 1
Spending Summary
Wealth: 14 (3+6+5)
Upkeep: 13
Total: +1



Armenian Conflict

Armenia and Azerbajan has resumed a long standing dispute over a region, a new government in both countries seeking to deliver a final blow to the other. Russian and Turkish interest are under threat as Kurds in Turkey and minors in Russia might seek to capitalize on this. Iran is also nearby and is likely to have some troubles near the border.

(potentially 1 economic damage and 1 population unhappy for all, which might spread.)

In an earlier press conference the most holy Imam al-Jamil expressed worry for our brothers across the north western border of Azerbaijan and Armenia and has ordered the most devout armed forces to the border to protect both our interests and insure that our brethren are not harmed in this conflict.

An Expansive Economy

Under the social-economical plan provided by some of the top and brightest minds of our most holy nation the Imam al-Jamil seeks to solidify our station as a world power by expanding trade with foreign nations. He is quoted as saying “If we wish to further strengthen our position in this brave new world we will need to expand our influence through economic propositions, and most important of those economic actions is the increase of trade with our foreign brethren.” Since this announcement several diplomats have undergone diplomatic missions to several nations around the world offering economic proposals to their leaders.

So far proposals have been made to other powers in the holy lands in an effort to strengthen the ties that bind us,
Proposals sent to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey, and if Turkey declines Azerbaijan.

Research: (Post #23 in the Dice Thread)
Primary: Enhanced Fossil Fuel Extraction
Secondary: Advanced Solar Cells

[Elektro]

Ziyou News Agency

Minor Disturbances Reported in Outlying Provinces of the Chinese Union

Reports of minor civil disturbances and separatists movements have been reported in border regions of the Chinese Union recently. The Premier has has announced a new program to provide food and economic aid to these regions that were neglected under the former regime. Also, upcoming elections for Parliament will allow disaffected citizens in these regions a voice in government and allow redress of their grievances. The Premier has also emphatically stated that military forces will not be used to quell this dissent. "To use Chinese boys to kill other Chinese boys would be an atrocity, and I will not allow it," he stated in a recent address.

The Premier also stated that this is an internal Chinese matter, and any outside interference would not be tolerated.

Chinese Union Ratifies Constitution

The Chinese Union ratified its Constitution yesterday in a public ceremony to at the new Monument to Liberty in Tienanmen Square. Highlights include the stipulation that all military actions must be approved by a nationwide referendum. Any military action must meet with 75% approval to be conducted. Also, the Chinese government is prohibited from entering any military alliances with foreign powers.

China Unilaterally Disarms

The Premier announced today that China will voluntary dismantle all nuclear weapons and convert all delivery systems to conventional or civilian purposes. The cost savings from ceasing to maintain the arsenal will be devoted to civilian programs and the development of a so-called missile shield to project the Union.

Project Tai Yang Announced

Project Tai Yang was announced today by the TTC and the Council for Technological Advancement. The project is a massive effort to research, build, and deploy massive space based solar power networks. The project is designed to provide a clean and reliable source of power for the Chinese nation and allow economic growth unrestrained by access to fossil fuels and the potentially unsavory regimes that control them. Project Tai Yang promises to revolutionize the Chinese economy, and the development of new technologies for the project will also help the Union. Local non-aligned nations are also invited to apply as junior members in the Project in order to share energy and technology from the project.

[Maldiem]

Mexican Space Agency Announces Cooperation On Project Tai Yang

The MSA will be assisting the Chinese in constructing their orbital power station from 2050 to 2060, with the Chinese finishing the last bit of the station in the early 2060's. The Chinese have generously reciprocated with a favorable trade flow.

((All three MSA points will assist the Chinese in building their orbital power station this turn and next turn, in exchange for 3 points of Chinese trade in turn 2.))

@Wizard: Turn 1 in a nutshell

Turn 2 trade breakdown:
Total: 16:17
Nation: (Giving):(Receiving)
Brazil: 5:5
Argentina: 3:3
Canada: 3:3
South Africa: 1:1
Central American Minor Powers: 2:1
Caribbean Minor Powers: 2:1
China: 0:3

Turn 1 budget:
Net income after Global Free Trade: 22
3 income from undisclosed sources
1 wealth sent to Hispanic Liberation Front
18 spent on economy (+6)

CMJS To Become Latin-American Powerhouse

Several Provinces have voted to allocate large amounts of production to the construction of Nuclear, Geothermal and Tidal power plants, though the main focus is on Nuclear power. The CMJS makes sure that this is strictly for non-military purposes, and invites UN weapons inspectors to all of its construction sites. They also begin construction of huge electrical vehicle, motor and industrial equipment manufacturing plants, with the aim to make the CMJS completely independent of fossil fuel in the next five to ten years.

((Spending on economy is almost entirely directed at this))

4 spent on Civil (+2)

CMJS moves toward the Transparent Society

The National Legislature passed a measure to require all legislators, provincial commanders and all levels of government operatives (with the minor exception of the CMJS Intelligence Agency, which is only outlined broadly) to monthly declare their actions, policies and spending online. The archives are available for all to see, and the citizens are encouraged to look over them should they have an issue with a representative. A hotline is established to handle allegations of wrongdoing, and a judicial organization is created to handle them.

((Spending on Civil))

2 spent on Tech (+1)

Major Overhaul, Expansion of Higher Education

The CMJS university system is seeing a major remodeling, as the stuffy older system is replaced with a new system which focuses on innovation and learning-by-doing. The old system of lectures and study is still there, of course, but work-study activities are now strictly mandatory in the industrial sector, which is possible because the state runs both the schools and the factories. New funding pours in, though it is shunted mostly toward the hard sciences and engineering departments, but some does end up in the humanities. Grants are handed out freely for ideas that seem reasonable, and this is used to synergize with the CMJS's attempt to attract foreign expertise.

(Spending on Tech)

Other important policy:

Provincial Legislatures Announce Completely Open Borders

Nearly all of the provinces have opened their borders to any sort of immigration from any country, with citizenship being freely granted to anyone who wants it. Additionally, an advertising campaign is launched worldwide about the professional and educational opportunities in the CMJS, and monetary and lease incentives are given to highly-qualified professionals that decide to emigrate to Mexico. Particular attention is given to material scientists, chemists, nanotechnologists, doctors and electrical engineers.

Socialized Childcare Now Operational

The CMJS has set up a country-wide system of boardinghouses and schools, that aims to allow any child to become a ward of the state and live a happy, well-cared for life. The aim here is to boost the birth rate by eliminating the abortion rate, because caring for the child will become a nonissue. The funding also allows a stipend for potential parents to pay for a child they may be considering regardless of their means, so material resources do not get in the way of family planning.

English, Portuguese, French Become Additional Official Languages

The National Legislature today approved a measure making English, Portuguese and French official languages of the CMJS, and instituting quadra-lingual education throughout the country. They feel the new official languages will allow them to better interact with their neighbors and conjure a sense of regional unity, as the four languages that are spoken most in Central America and the Caribbean are now on all government documents.


New stats, before DM boni, should be:
Army: 9
Navy:4
Air: 5
Space: 3
Population: 3 (not sure about growth)
Economy: 13
Resources: 9
Spy: 6
Tech: 9
Civil: 10
Nuclear: 0
Defenses: 2

Research Progress:
Maybe complete
Enhanced Fossil Fuel Extraction: 14 (+14 from cooperative research with Argentina, or 18 if cooperative research is limited by fastest partner): 28 or 32, depending

EDIT: If I may append an "if" statement-- if cooperative research is limited by the slowest partner (IE I'll have 28 in Enhanced fossil fuel extraction), I'll spend 2 less on Civil and pump the 2 wealth from that into Enhanced Fossil Fuel Extraction.

Nuclear Fusion: 3
All others: 1

[Moody the Wise]

@Wizard: Note, there's a new budget below this

Bernardo O'Higgins IV Convenes International Neo-Communist Ex-workers' Association (INEA)

"It is evident that communism needs a new face for the 21st century. A corrupt regime claiming the name of communism has recently been deposed, as well it should have been, in China. A consistent failure in the implementation of proper communist ideologies has lead to a violent backlash against the movement for some years now. And yet, we have never needed its message more than we do now.

At the same time, we need a fresh interpretation of communism that is explicitly relevant to our modern world. Marx prophetically predicted the ultimate failure of the capitalist system. Marx did not give the bourgeoisie quite enough credit. I look at the future - the very near future - and I see one in which the bourgeoisie realizes it no longer needs the working class to produce capital. With the rapid rate of technological advance, almost all jobs that are currently done can be done as well or better with unpaid robots, the upkeep costs of which will be far less than the wages paid to workers. Once those who control the means of production realize they can cut most of the population out of the equation, there will be no more 'class mobility.' The former working class will exist in a permanent state of abject poverty.

The solution to this problem is a revolution. It is, however, a revolution of ideas that we need, not one of guns. Revolutions with guns have never really changed anything. Yes, revolutions with guns may be necessary to divest the propertied class of its interests, but we must succeed first and foremost in the revolution of ideas.

In a Neo-Communist Ex-workers' state, the means of production are controlled collectively. The state's production complex, unconstrained by the antiquated notion of profit and free from the rules of competition, is able to produce at levels impossible in a capitalist system. Every member of the state can have its basic needs - and a high degree of non-basic needs - met by the state's production complex.

And yet, work is the fundamental human activity. What will we do if we achieve this paradise? We will return to real work, that is what we will do. The degrading menial labor which we have too long regarded as work is not work fit for the dignity of the human hand. We will return to the work that makes us human, the work that nurtures us and fulfills us. We will be clergy, we will be scholars, we will be poets, we will be musicians, we will be athletes, we will be husbands and wives; we will be lovers. We will be men, we will be women, and we will be children.

In this spirit, I call all those of like mind to join INEA and work to spread our revolution. My own Argentine people have graciously agreed to provide our organization with a headquarters in Buenos Aires. All who come with an open mind will be received with an open heart.


Re-Revised 2051-2055 Budget (With new fluff!)

15 Wealth - 13 upkeep = +2
Global free trade = +14
Sale of one army, one air each to Burkina Faso, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Cote d'Ivoire, and Liberia = +20
Total = 36

-14: 7 points of spy

These 7 points of spy are mostly invested in the creation of the INEA HQ, which will serve as a base of operations and elite training facility for the element of my covert operations that involves the spread of INEA-ideology and grassroots organization in other countries.

-12: 4 points of economy

Argentina's modest investment in economy is enough to keep it one step ahead of rising upkeep costs. Most of this is directed towards the production of the heavy equipment needed to take full advantage of the resources made available in the coming years through Enhanced Fossil Fuel Extraction. Other areas of interest include increasing the food surplus and expanding the high-tech industry for trade with foreign powers.

-8: 4 points of tech

Research universities are expanded across the state, and the cutting edge of technology is brought to all corners of the country. No home is left without high-speed internet access, and the rail system is vastly improved so as to nearly make obsolete the use of cars.

-2: 1 point of civil

"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."

edit: Bit about the arms deal to rebels is no longer applicable - it was stopped before it happened.

[Jael_Darkwood]

New Indian Democracy

A small, balding brown man wearing glasses stands in front of a podium, surrounded by professional bodyguards. "In this time of troubles, India must make its voice heard. We applaud the Chinese for their recent democratic advances. Truly, with such a shining example of progress, with such a fundamental reversal... How can anyone sit in the darkness, contemplating violence?"

He shakes his head sadly, his hands gripping his podium. "We all must grow up! Please, all of you with armies in the field.... Think of those sons and daughters of your country... think of their bravery, their skill... but most of all, think of how much life they have yet to live! Let your young, your promise of the future... Let them see peace, once again! Please. The world already cries out from the attack on the peaceful people of the Ukraine... join your voices to the choir of peace, not the discord of fear, hatred, and violence!"

He pauses again. "We do not see a way to end this, except through negotiation. But know... your decisions on this matter take place on the world stage. All will see, and judge you, not just by your intentions, but by the results."

He stops for a moment, and visibly relaxes. "I am sorry for my vehemence, but this is a topic on which I feel very strongly. Now. On to another matter of import. Religion. Religion is a wonderful thing. It can lead one to a greater reverence for all things, and this is right and proper. However, one must constantly strive to see others as equals. Religion does not make you better than your fellows... and should drive you to help them. Not just help them find faith, but genuinely help them."

He stops, smiles. "Look at me, educating again." He chuckles. "I will get to the point. All religions should be treated with respect, and admiration. For they all are means to the same end... internal revelation, and answers to the hardest questions. To promote dialogs between the faiths, I am hereby beginning a great project... the Street of Faiths. We shall clear the land, and provide a site of serenity and calm for each of the largest faiths, and a grant of land also for the minor faiths to call home. We invite all faiths to our land, to talk, and grow in understanding of one another."

Smiling, he bows to the camera, opening his arms, seeming to bow to the entire world through the camera. He straightens, pushes up his glasses, and walks off stage right.

-General plans for the project are projected on the screen, in full animation, with a camera high above apparently looking down on a collection of different styles, recognizable adaptions of classic temple and church designs. There are 9 buildings, each with its own label... a larger tract of land with areas laid out for up to 50 smaller buildings, and a large outside amphitheater, a primitive amphitheater designed from modern materials, with a transparent dome overtop, which fogs momentarily (active gel for blocking sky) to a marble-like appearance.-


Later in the week, several other changes are announced, as follow-ups to the general Indian initiative promoting peace in its region and beyond. A special economic zone is established Jamshedpur, with any and all Burmese laborers given work visas.

Mega-Projects :

1) Street of Faiths : Located in Bhopal, an area with a checkered past, now site to the already fairly impressive combination monument and environmental reclamation project (See Bhopal industrial accident). With large areas of Bhopal touted as recently as 10 years ago as completely recovered (also completely bulldozed and naturified with specific plants designed to beautify and heal the area).
7 buildings : Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Chinese traditional religion, Buddhism, primal-indigenous religions, African Traditional & Diasporic

1 Larger Expanse of land for all other faiths, divided by strategic natural barriers, false treelines, etc.

1 main ampitheater - area for debate, designed acoustically to deaden everyone equally, microphones placed at all seats, controlled by a main switchboard.

beautiful parks, etc.


2) An immense project dealing primarily with alteration of the Dam blocking waterflow to Burma from India, shoring up the rivers and increasing waterflow past the dam, while upgrading its efficiency to make up for any fall in energy output (read some Burma-India history for info).

Orders

Budget, 2051-2055

Trade : (I give : I get, spoilered for space)

Pakistan 3:3
Mayanmar 2:2
Nepal 1:1
Burma 2:1
Iran 3:3
Khazikstan 2:2
Thailand 2:2
Saudi Arabia 2:2
Oman 1:1
Afghanistan 2:2

Trade : +19
Wealth : +15+15+5
Upkeep : -23
Total Income : 31

Improving Stats :
4pts - Espionage + 2
4pts - Tech +2
2pts - Civil +1

Civil Investments

2 Wealth - Helping uplift our skilled laborers to teaching and management positions. Subsidized learning.

2 Wealth - Private business loans for economic investment.

1 Wealth - Funding student exchange programs between various areas of India, local neighbors (Pakistan, Burma, Malaysia, Nepal mainly, overtures to others, but funding for these main 4)


Mega Projects : (not secret, spoilered for space)

Street of Faiths : 15 Pts

To a certain degree (security reasons), all plans are publicly available. Details available include the appearance of both the outside of the buildings, and the insides of the public spaces within. Modifications are subject to vote, with those most highly voted for brought to the attention of the engineers in command of the various buildings.

7 wealth invested equally in building 7 buildings : Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Chinese traditional religion, Buddhism, primal-indigenous religions, African Traditional & Diasporic

1.5 Wealth - Larger Expanse of land for all other faiths, divided by strategic natural barriers, false treelines, etc.

2 Wealth - Ampitheater

0.5 Wealth - Beautification, establishment of gardens, orchestra building, tourist booth, etc.

4 Wealth invested - Establishing funding for a private security force, neutral in all regards and with a reputation for sterling honesty. They have agreed to give up all other contracts and focus entirely on providing security for this site. (Basically 2 points espionage, but totally devoted to counter-intelligence : mission : uncover attacks on the Street of Faith.)

Dam modifications - 5 Wealth - Construction is projected to complete in the next 5 years, with significant increase in the waterflow to the people of Burma.



Technology : 11 Dice
Primary : Greenhouse Reduction - 20
Secondary : Synthetic Foods - 6
Tertiary : Genetic Medicine - 1

Espionage : 8 Dice

blocked : esp 2

blocked : esp 4

blocked : esp 6

blocked : esp 10

Blocked (last) esp 15

As a preface, I would like to say, before sending these ops teams, first I ask my advisors : is this even possible. So, lemme know if itll actually do anything :)

Massive Insertion of Special Ops teams into Burma, cover as returning laborers, co-ordination through student sharing plan, extra trade.
Primary : Secrecy : 15
Secondary Mission : 5 Infiltrate and 'turn' the Burmese Intelligence Network
Tertiary Mission : 2 Train and organize pro-india 'democratic' rebels. No overt actions to be taken.



Diplomacy :

Diplomats at all embassies up their general level of activity, visiting local religious leaders, asking them to send scholars to the Street of Faiths once it is completed (2055).

Diplomats travel to China, hoping to open up trade negotiations, cultural exchange, et cetera.

Diplomats travel to Pakistan, basically showing interest in opening talks. Their first question : What does Pakistan want, and how can India help?

Diplomats travel to Nepal with no specific mission, merely wishing not to leave them out, and construct some safe topics of discussion for that purpose

Diplomats travel to Burma to discuss possible construction of a Railroad through Burma, with joint funding by India and Burma, completely under Burmese control.

[Moody the Wise]

Bernardo O'Higgins IV Speaks On The Street of Faiths

I would like to thank the Indian government for providing the world with this invaluable opportunity. Argentine scholars and clergy of all faiths and religious traditions are prepared to take up residence on the Street of Faiths as soon as the accommodations have been readied. We welcome the chance to discuss matters of spirituality with our comrades from around the world, and we look upon this venture with the most sincere hope that it will bring positive change to our world.

[Thymin]

The United Brazilian Federation

Previous Budget and Trade Deals:


Brazil:
Income and Budget:
+ 25 - Wealth
+ 21 - Trade
- 19 - Upkeep (95/5)
= 27 - Five Year Budget

- 10 - 5 points of Economy
- 8 - 4 points of Civil
- 2 - 1 point of Space
- 1 - 1/20 of a space asset
- 3 - Researching new technology (TBD when I figure out how research works...)
- 2 - Aid package to Ukraine
- 1 - reparations to Native American population
= -27 - Five year Budget accounted for.

Turn 2 Trade Agreements (subject to minor changes):

Argentina - 3:3
Canada - 1:1
Japan - 5:5
Mexico - 5:5
Columbia - 1:1 (pending approval)
Venezuela - 1:1 (pending approval)
Guyana - 1:1 (pending approval)
Suriname - 1:1 (pending approval)
Ecuador - 1:1 (pending approval)


Turn 1 Income and Budget:
(Bolded Areas are new or changed from old budget)
+ 25 - Wealth
+ 21 - Trade
- 19 - Upkeep (95/5)
= 27 - Five Year Budget

- 12 - 4 points of Economy
- 8 - 4 points of Civil
- 4 - 2 points of Tech
- 2 - Aid package to Ukraine
- 1 - reparations to Native American population
= -27 - Five year Budget accounted for.

Because of the Global Economic slowdown, the United Brazilian Federation has decided to push its space program development onto the back burner and instead invest in it's technology sector. It's commitment to increasing GDP has taken more money in the form of direct government investment, so some of the money that has been saved by pushing back the space station project has been channeled into building the economic and educational institutions to promote a higher level of domestic production.

Turn 2 Trade Agreements (subject to minor changes):

Argentina - 3:3
Canada - 1:1
Japan - 5:5
Mexico - 5:5
Columbia - 2:2 (pending approval)
Venezuela - 2:2 (pending approval)
Guyana - 1:1 (pending approval)
Suriname - 1:1 (pending approval)
Ecuador - 1:1 (pending approval)

[nothingclever]

Turn 2

Technology
(If one or more countries besides Indonesia researched with me or donated wealth so I could complete Advanced Solar Cells in turn 1)
Primary: Genetic Medicine
Secondary: Supra-molecular Chemistry

Results of research:
Primary: 49
Secondary: 19
Tertiary: 4

Spending
+1 Technology

To members of SEA and anyone wishing to join
Robert Daniels: I expect full cooperation on the research Australia is conducting since it is the currently the leader in technology and I would appreciate donations be made to funding it if our scientists appear to be unable to meet deadlines by a small margin.

In the next 5 years Australia will be conducting further research on supra-molecular chemistry and hopes to complete it. If Australia cannot reach this goal on its own any funding would be appreciated to help it.

Important
Australia asks any members of SEA to buy military forces from it at a regular 2 wealth per point ratio. Australia has heard of people attempting to make a profit by selling equipment to terrorist groups but it would rather do honest trading among its members. Hopefully anyone who decides to trade with Australia will keep military units in SEA's reserve.

Australia wants to sell its forces because it would like to invest even more into its research facilities.

[Wizard of the Coat]

Turn 2

US hispanics

US Spanish riots turn peaceful due to Mexico's calls. Other then lost prestige and a lot of mexican influence in their country, the US troubles are (for the moment) over. The protestors call for a recognition of the majority and a creation of a new nation in the US southwest (texas-california area).

Chinese Riots

The Chinese riots for independence are dying down due to a substantial cash injection by the Chinese government in the minority area's and effective administration to ensure prosperity. Though there is some resentment left it is for the moment hidden.

Native americans

Peru and Bolivia's riots have led to a shift in government towards the Native populations, both countries Hispanics are call for help from foreign governments as they are deprived of properties and becoming an 'unwanted' class. Other countries riots have died down for now, the governements being capable of maintaining order again.

Greece and Serbia invade Turkey

A grueling series of scirmishes between balkan nations breaks out as the serbian and greek armies and air forces clash with the Turkish one in an attempt to move for Istanbul. Though initially succesfull, the turkish addition of forces from anakara to the conflict allows them to drive back the invadors to the original borders. A cease fire is agreed in early 2055, but tentions are hot

(turkey& balkan allies: lose 1 military and 1 air//turkey lose 0.1 air from seperatist bomb blasts))

Turkey has broken the blockade in the Baltic sea as Romania and Bulgaria weren't going to risk war yet. Still the east Mediterranean merchandise is still halted for turkey.

The Democratic Communist Peoples Army of Congo has claimed the capitol city. It seems they have significantly increased their strengths and are fast becoming the most potent faction in the region.

@all: trade with minors is accepted

TURN 2 STARTS

Ongoing conflics:
- Caucassus Seperatism
- Cyprus conflict.
- Armenia-Azerbajan
- Economic Crisis
- Africa still a mess

Emerging Conflicts:
- Energy reserves crisis reaches new peak, despite the economic slowdown the troubles in Africa and other regions have send energy prices surging. If governments don't resolve this soon it could seriously impair their economic growth...or worse. This is especially a problem for those with less resources then their economy.




MANDATORY FORMAT ((to let me keep my sanity))

First post should include your new and updated stats, written as follows:

STATS for NATION XXX

Army 7 +2 = 9
Navy 4 +3 = 7
Air 5
etc..

etc...

Special:
7 Wealth "garden of eden project'
3 Wealth building lunar colony 7/60 completed


Trade summary turn 2:
Romania: 2:2
Greec: 1:1
etc...

(just list countries)


In effect showing all the old end of turn stats with the increase and new stuff stated in RED.

Also note that this is free info for all, but spoilered as it's just boring stats that take space.

@all (especially co-gms): Feel free to check each others updated stats for flaws and glitches.

[Moody the Wise]

STATS FOR ARGENTINA


Army: 8 -5 = 3
Navy: 9 +0 = 9
Air: 9 -5 = 4
Spy: 5 +7 = 12
Nuclear: 0 +0 = 0
Defenses: 0 +0 = 0
Power: 31 -3 = 28

Population: 1 +0 = 1*
*Unless it has grown naturally
Economy: 6 +4 = 10
Resources: 8 +0 = 8
Wealth: 15 +4 = 19

Space: 0 +0 = 0
Tech: 10 +4 = 14
Civil: 9 +1 = 10
Social: 19 +5 = 4

Research:
Enhanced Fossil Fuel Extraction: 20 (me) + 14 (joint with Mexico) = 34; COMPLETE
Fuel Cells: 7 (me) + 2 (joint with Brazil) = 9
All else: 2 (me) = 2


Trade summary for turn 2 (14:14)
Brazil, Mexico, Canada, Japan - 3:3 each
Paraguay - 1:1
Uruguay - 1:1

[Maldiem]

"Recessions are for Capitalists."
--Emillio Hernandez, Chief Economist, Durango Province

CMJS Statistics

Army: 10 -1 = 9
Navy:4 +0 = 4
Air: 5 +0 = 5
Space: 3 +0 = 3
Population: 3 (not sure about growth) +0 = 3
Economy: 7 + 6 = 13
Resources: 9 + 0 = 9
Spy: 6 + 0 = 6
Tech: 8 + 1 = 9
Civil: 8 + 2 = 10
Nuclear: 0 + 0 = 0
Defenses: 2 + 0 = 0

Wealth: 19 + 6 = 25
Social: 19 + 3 = 22
Power: 27 - 1 = 26
Total: 65 + 8 = 73

Trade Breakdown:
Turn 2
Total: 16:17
Nation: (Giving):(Receiving)
Brazil: 5:5
Argentina: 3:3
Canada: 3:3
South Africa: 1:1
Central American Minor Powers: 2:1
Caribbean Minor Powers: 2:1
China: 0:3

Gross Wealth: 25
Upkeep: 14.6
Net Wealth: 10.4
Trade income: 17
--------------------
Net Income: 27.4

Research:
Complete: Enhanced Fossil Fuel Extraction
Basic Nuclear Fusion: 3
All others: 1


National Legislature Foreign Affairs Committee Passes Resolution 1034-- Proposed Formation of HAMMER

The foreign affairs committee sent a referendum to the CMJS's Central American and Caribbean neighbors today, detailing the proposed formation of the Honorable Axis of Mesoamerican Military and Economic Reinforcement, H.A.M.M.E.R. for short. Member nations would practice open borders with all other member nations, and preferentially give trade to other member nations. Additionally, a HAMMER-wide legislative body would be formed to regulate trade disputes between member nations and make deals with non-member nations. HAMMER nations would additionally enter into a mutual defense pact with eachother, to brook no interference from imperialist powers.

The HAMMER Charter:
1) The formation of a legislative body that can amend the HAMMER charter by a vote from the majority of representatives of every HAMMER nation, one for each nation.

2) Open borders between all HAMMER nations.

3) Mutual protection pacts between HAMMER nations.

As an incentive to join in this mutually beneficial partnership, the CMJS offers to alter its trade balance with all nations who join HAMMER, from 2:1 to 3:1. Their numerous new nuclear power plants could reasonably expect to forestall the energy crisis in these nations, and the CMJS is nothing if not a good neighbor. They additionally offer to aid HAMMER member nations in implementing the CMJS's new Enhanced Fossil Fuel Extraction technology, to assure the crisis is not in Mesoamerica.

HAMMER invitations are sent, in no particular order, to Guatemala, Belize, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti, Aruba, The Dominican Republic, The Bahamas, The Turks and Caicos Islands, The Virgin Islands, Anguila, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Montserrat, Antigua and Barbuda, Guadeloupe, Dominica, Martinique, Barbados, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Grenada, and Trinidad and Tobago.

[nothingclever]

STATS FOR AUSTRALIA

Army: 5 +0= 5
Navy: 7 +0 = 7
Air: 9 +0 = 9
Spy: 3 +0 = 3
Nuclear: 0 +0 = 0
Defenses: 0 +0 = 0
Power: 24 +0 = 24

Population: 1 +0 = 1.10
Economy: 8 +0 = 8
Resources: 9 +0 = 9
Wealth: 18 +0 = 18

Space: 0 +0 = 0
Tech: 24 +1 = 25
Civil: 10 +0 = 10
Social: 34 +1 = 35

Trade summary for turn 2 (17:17)
Indonesia 5:5
New Zealand 4:4
Malaysia 4:4
Philippines 4:4

[viggo]

Army 8.5 +5 = 13.5
Navy 9 = 9
Air 9 - 1.1 = 7.9
economy 7 + 3.33 == 10.33
resources 5 - 1 == 4
spy 7
tech 8
civil 7+2=9

Special:
advanced solar cells 15
synthetic foods 5
everything else 1


Trade summary turn 2:

Russia 4:4
Ukraine 4:4
KoH 2:2
NEU 2:2
Armenia 2:2*
.33 to Greek propaganda project

[El_Frenchie]

Indonesia (Additions for turn 2 are bolded/red)


Indonesia

7 Army
12 Navy
7 Air
0 Space
10 Population
7 +5 Economy (12)
8 Resources
6 Spy
8 +2 Tech (10)
8 +5 Civil (13)
0 Nuclear
2 Defenses

Total: 87.
Power: 32.
Wealth: 30.
Social: 23.

Trade summary:

PC

Japan 5:5
Australia 5:5

NPC

Malaysia 3:2
Philippines 1:1
New Zealand 2:2

[Eldan]

Stats for Japan:


Power: 27
Army: 5
Navy: 8
Air: 7
Spy:2+1=3
Nuclear:0
Defence:4

Wealth:24
Population:3.3
Economy:14+4=18
Resources:3

Social:33
Space: 10+1=11
Tech: 10+2=12
Civil: 9+1=10

Total: 84
Upkeep: 17
Trade: 17

Money available: 24-17+17=24


Money spent this turn:
12 Economy
-The shogunate continues it's policy of strenghtening the econmy, by lowering taxes, simplyfing administration and dropping all custom taxes. They also start new programs to get foreign investors to invest in Japan, by starting a government agency which helps in negotiations between foreigners and the economy and offering them fantastically low tax rates.

8 Tech
-The government annouced that in this period, funding for universities would be increased significantly, that all universities would be free, with the government paying for all expanses and that the school system would get a major overhaul, implementing the newest technologies.
Their system of funding new, revolutionary business ideas continues, along with a new project to help young scientists get the money they need to develop whatever they want to invent.

4 Space
-The Shogun announced that this year a wave of probes will be launched out into the solar system, to mars, the moon, and the jovian moons.

*more announcements regarding politics this evening.*

[Eldan]

That's how much I spent.

[Elektro]

Ziyou News Agency

Stats



Army: 18
Air: 6
Naval: 11
Space: 6 + 4 = 10
Population: 14
Economy: 10 + 1 = 11
Resources: 6
Spy: 14
Tech: 8 + 2 = 10
Civil: 8 = 2 = 10

4 (+2) - Civil investment

After the fall of the communist regime, massive amounts of funds are direct to the development of democratic institutions and the removal of corrupt officials. A federal system is established to allow a natural flow of concerns from local areas to national government. The Chinese Union also establishes a more robust datalink/Internet system with free access. It also features a special site that allows citizens direct communication with their leaders, in an attempt to minimize any further civil disturbance.

4 (=2) - Tech investment

The government increases funding to major research university and guarantees full scholarships to qualified Chinese students who commit to an education in-country. A system of research prizes (similar to the X-Prize) is also established in a wide range of science and engineering pursuits, especially space.

4 (2 unit asset) - Project Tai Yang

Frequent space launches send of massive amounts of material for building. The preliminary stage involves the creation of an on-orbit LEO assembly station and GEO transfer unit. TTC and MSA assets launch the backbone of the project into space, and it is being assembled in GEO. Also, construction begins on the massive microwave receivers Earthside, which are placed in the Ordos agricultural region. The receivers benefit from the low cloud cover and they allow visible light to pass for the crops below.

8 (+4) - Space expansion

Massive funding to support Project Tai Yang flows into the TTC and private space ventures. Efforts are focused on lowing the cost to orbit. Research into laser mass propulsion is also emphasized.

2 (+1) - Economy investment

The government is investing in providing alternative energy sources for businesses and the population. An incentive program to support energy conservation and mass transit is also funded.

1 - Aid to disaffected provinces

An aid program to the neglected regions is started, focused on providing a minimum standard of living for the poor in the region.

Primary Research Goal - Adv Solar Cells:
Secondary Research Goal - Applied HE Physics:


Please all check this over, since I'm not completely sure of what I'm doing. :smallbiggrin:

[Moody the Wise]

@Wizard: Turkey-Greece Peace Treaty Proposal (already approved by Turkey, needs Greek approval)

I've been talking to Viggo, now I have to talk to Greece. Here are the terms Turkey and I have worked out:

1. All parties will agree to a ceasefire, effective immediately, and reduce troop buildup along mutual borders.
2. Compensations will be given to all parties. These compensations will be raised by willing donations of the international community, and are entirely different from reparations - of which there will be none. Compensatory packages will be delivered through UN agencies. The specific destinations of these monies will be at the discretion of the individual governments, but must be strictly non-military in nature and must make an attempt to mitigate the effects of the conflict on the civilian population. Turkey will receive a package totaling two wealth. Likewise, Greece and its allies will receive, between them, a package totaling two wealth.
3. Neutral peacekeepers will gradually replace Turkish military forces on Cyprus over the next five years, with the sole mission to deter civilian violence. The UN will be the first organization petitioned for these peacekeepers, although a resolution will have to pass that body separate from this treaty.
4. Neutral investigators will monitor all Cypriot elections over the next five years to assure that the government of Cyprus remains fairly and democratically elected. The abovementioned point about the UN applies here also.

Please let me know ASAP how Greece and its allies will respond.

[nothingclever]

Robert Daniels has decided to change his outdated title of Prime Minister to Emperor. Should anyone in his nation protest I'll make a civil roll to quiet them down. He has also given himself a crown and a special royal uniform.

OOC: Emperor just sounds so catchy.:smallwink:

[Eldan]

Daily Sunrise: Japan has decided

After three weeks of debate about the current political situation in the region, mostly about the developing SEA and the revolution in China, the japanese government annouced that they would not join SEA and instead collaborate with China on the Tai Yang energy and research project.
"We feel that, even though SEA is a good idea, providing stability and mutual protection to this region of Earth, it is not in our interest to join it. The Japanese Defence Force is and will always be commanded by the Shogun alone and not put under the control of a multinational council.
On the other hand, Tai Yang is a project which we fully support. We announce full cooperation between chinese and japanese research institutes and hope that we soon will be able to annouce the development of improved solar cells. We also intend to launch satellites carrying solar power stations, similar to those china is currently developing."

Japan and China collaborate on "Advanced Solar Cells". All japanese space points go into Tai Yang.

[Moody the Wise]

@Wizard: There are two spoilers down at the bottom of this for you
@All: No resolutions in here, but the speech is addressed to all world leaders
Ernesto Guevara II Announces Program for Peace

My friends, our world is sick. It cries out to us for a cure. It cries out for us to care.

The people of Argentina will not let that cry fall on deaf ears. We will do the best that we can, and hope that you will match our concern.

The first step on this path has already been taken. Our diplomats have spent sleepless nights in Turkey working out a peace treaty, and we believe it is a fair and reasonable treaty. Our diplomats are still in negotiations with Greece and its allies, but we expect a favorable response. We are very close to ending this war before it escalates further. You all may help by voicing your desire to see this war end and encouraging Greece and its allies to accept what is a very fair treaty.

The next step will be to fully address the fallout from the nuclear attack on Ukraine. By contributing just a small amount each, we can easily raise the funds required to clean up the remaining fallout. It will take a trivial contribution from the international community, but will make a world of difference to those affected.

The third step needs to be a comprehensive plan for establishing order and stability in Africa. Argentina has already made an effort in this by selling a large amount of our military equipment to a collection of West African states - Burkina Faso, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Liberia, and Cote d'Ivoire. The influx of arms has allowed these states to bring an increased level of peace and prosperity to their lands. Over the next few years, we hope to help these states become a force for peace and stability in the greater region by directly funding their humanitarian outreach practices. I encourage those of you with military capacity to spare to divest yourselves of these resources and send them to African nations in turmoil, where they can be used to bring peace and stability to a troubled continent.

The final step must be a concerted effort to solve the energy crisis. Argentina has researched and implemented the technology required to allow us to subsist a few years longer on fossil fuels [read: we completed Enhanced Fossil Fuel Extraction]. We knew going in that this would be a stopgate measure, and we have plans for the future to be able to vastly increase our own production of renewable energy and also be able to export that energy to all corners of the world efficiently. We applaud those of you who have made strides in this direction already, and encourage those of you who have not to re-examine your priorities.

Together we can answer the Earth's cry.

@Wizard: West Africa

I'm offering Ghana, Sierra Leone, Burkina Faso, Liberia, and Cote d'Ivoire a 1 wealth donation this turn and a 2:1 trade deal starting next turn if they organize into a federal state and work to promote peace inside and outside their borders. My acronym idea for this new state is the West African Socialist Bloc (WASB), but they could pick anything. I'm not asking complete integration, but a federal system along the lines of Germany or something. I'm willing to use a few spy dice to influence the right leaders to make this happen. If they won't do it or need help doing it, let me know what might help them change their minds.

@Wizard: South America

I offer Peru one wealth earmarked for restoring order in their country - specifically, programs to ensure the non-native population is treated fairly by the new regime. I'll use a few spy dice to make sure everyone in Peru knows who bailed them out and how great Argentina and INEA are.

I offer Bolivia 3 wealth to organize along INEA lines (that is, establish a commune political system like Argentina's and implement the high level of technology required to make a labor-free state-run production machine function) and integrate into the Argentine state, forming the new Unión de Comunas Suramericanas (Union of South American Communes). I'll invest most of my spy rating in convincing the Bolivians that this is a good idea, and my civil to help them make the transition. Are my odds of success good?

I'll use a few spy dice to make sure that Chile understands that my actions are in the best interest of the region and that they shouldn't interfere.

I'll up my trade offer with the Guays to 3:2 to induce them to not interfere.

[nothingclever]

Robert Daniels seeks research partners for Australia and has decided to accept anyone. :/

[viggo]

(OOC@WizCoat: If this statement can be included in the timeline before the agreement on a ceasefire, great. If not, pretend it never happened. I can't think of a reason not to include it, however. Moody got here before I did, that's all.)

Dear People of Greece,

The Turkish people would like to thank you for your contributions to the development of the human culture. We can thank you for advancements in every aspect of life. From democracy to simple lifestyles, global teaching methods in the form of the Socratic method, common ideals in rhetoric, comedy, drama, history and the narrative. To each of you, we give a gift. We love the Greeks and wish them nothing but the best a human being can be wished.

(The gift comes in the form of a book, "Democracy at Gunpoint," by Andreas Papandreou. It outlines the evils of the junta. Papandreou was one of the best Greek Prime Minsters of all time. It should strike a chord in the hearts of the people of Greece. I'll spend .33 of my economy on this, cancelling the trade with libya. If resources allow, send each citizen a Greek flag as well.)

It is my unfortunate burden to announce the bombardment of forces controlled by your government. Their unprovoked military action against our civilian population cannot be tolerated. We encourage every Greek that loves Greece to consider several propositions:

First, rise up against the usurpers and restore the ideals of Greek democracy that are vital to the world. The Turkish government will assist in whatever way possible with this process.

Second, any Greek may seek asylum in Turkey. We will approve almost any application.

Third, petition your government to stop the state-sponsored terrorism in Cyprus. Your tax dollars are going to kill people that are securing the restoration of democracy in a free nation that had its government co-opted into a puppet state by your fine "elected" officials.

Please enjoy our gift, remember who wrote it and what it stands for. You have two weeks before our actions commence. Direct any inquiries to the Turkish Diplomatic Corps in person, by mail or electronic communication.

[Thymin]

Brazil

Stats:

Army 13 +0 = 13
Navy 10 +0 = 10
Air 12 +0 = 12
Space 5 +0 = 5
Population 4 +0 = 4
Economy 10 +4 = 14
Resources 11 +0 = 11
Spy 9 +0 = 9
Tech 8 +2 = 10
Civil 8 +4 = 12
Nuclear 0 +0 = 0
Defense 5 +0 = 5

Wealth 25 +4 = 29
Power 49 +0 = 49
Social 21 +6 = 27

Total 95 +10 = 105

Special:

Trade summary turn 2:

Argentina - 3:3
Canada - 1:1
Japan - 5:5
Mexico - 5:5
Columbia - 2:2
Venezuela - 2:2
Guyana - 1:1
Suriname - 1:1
Ecuador - 1:1

Turn 2 Tech rolls:

15 Primary, 4 Secondary :smallfrown:

[kentma57]

OOC: I will have to post my actions soon but I am having trouble understanding the rules. They are complete and disorganized.

So just to confirm:
An stat increas costs 3 wealth
A dice of research costs 1 wealth point
What does technology stat do?

PS: I probably should have posted in the other thread but shrugs...

[Eldan]

Here's my Co-DM opinion (might not be perfectly correct)
-The 3 wealth per stat thing was last turn. This turn it's 2 per stat increase again.
-Yes. But that's only if you need additional research for one turn.
-You get as many research dice as your tech stat per turn.

[Moody the Wise]

OOC: I will have to post my actions soon but I am having trouble understanding the rules. They are complete and disorganized.

So just to confirm:
An stat increas costs 3 wealth
A dice of research costs 1 wealth point
What does technology stat do?

PS: I probably should have posted in the other thread but shrugs...

Here's my layperson opinion:

Stat upgrades cost 2 wealth. The only one that cost three wealth last turn was economy; everything else still cost just 2.

As Eldan said, you get x dice for research each turn, where x is your tech stat.

Just to clarify, you can't buy additional dice for research. 1 wealth can buy you one point of research, not one die of research.

And yes, this whole conversation belongs in the other thread, but it started here so we might as well finish it here. Plus, I'm just excited to see posts in this thread.

[kentma57]

Canada (Turn 2)

Recent Goverment initiatives:
Clean Power: "With the end of fossil fuels in sight we are making great strides towards a new power supply, the sun. We will acive this through hard work and cooperation with Japan.

Space program: "In recent years we have made many breakthroughs in the field of science, we are happy to anounce that a large breakthrough will soon allow us to experiment with colinization."

Crunch:
Stats:Stats:

Army 7 + 0 = 7
Navy 5 + 0 = 5
Air 8 + 0 = 8
Space 7 + 11 = 18
Population 3 + 0 = 3
Economy 6 + 0 = 6
Resources 15 + 0 = 15
Spy 5 + 0 = 5
Tech 10 + 3 = 13
Civil 10 + 0 = 10
Nuclear 0 + 0 = 0
Defense 3 + 0 = 3

Wealth 24 + 0 = 24
Power 28 + 0 = 28
Social 24 + 14 = 38

Total 79 + 14 = 93


Finaces:Wealth = +24
Trade = +21
Upkeep = -16 (75/5)
Remaining = 29

Actions:Space: +11
Tech: +3
1 remaining wealth spent on the "Advanced Solar Cells" tech, both turn 1 and 2.

Research: Primary "Advanced Solar Cells", Secondary "Applied Particle Physics"
[roll0] = 1 primary
[roll1] = 1 primary
[roll2] = 2 primary, 1 secondary
[roll3] = 1 primary
[roll4] = 1 primary
[roll5] = 2 Primary, 1 Secondary
[roll6] = 2 Primary, 1 Secondary
[roll7] = 1 primary
[roll8] = 2 Primary, 1 Secondary
[roll9] = 1 Primary
Total = 14 Primary, 4 secondary

Current research totals:
"Advanced Solar Cells" = 28/100
"Applied Particle Physics" = 4/200

[Wizard of the Coat]

@Everyone:

Worldwide population grows by 10% this year, except for the countries that suffered from fallout, that experience no substantial growth.

Research co-operation will now be similar to Maldiems updated model in Manifest Destiny V2:

You receive a bonus equal to 50% of your largest partners research; 25% of the second largest partners research; 12.5% of the third largest partners research etc...




ps: When is turn 2, or should I post it next?

It's still turn 2, so don't worry. (I assume your stat updates were those after turn 1 and you've jsut posted your turn 2 budget right??)

PS: working on administrative stuff (OOC/status thread/word map)

Current World Map
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6342/agameofnationsturn2ss8.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6342/agameofnationsturn2ss8.25dd765ef1.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=503&i=agameofnationsturn2ss8.png)
The dots represent spheres of influence with minors (or major influence in another mayor/medium power), usually a result of sneaky stuff, trade, benificial diplomacy, alliances etc.

The pink nations in central asia are CAP nations.

Please let me know if I forgot anyone (by PM) I appolagize in advance.

Enhanced fossil fuel extraction Argentina and Mexico succeed at obtaining it.
This has the following effects:

A
- Lasts untill 8 player factions have it ((yeah it's nasty...but once almost everyone gets the last drops of oil it will essentially be the same as before))
- Gives you half your resource stat worth of 'energy' as additional trade that you can send out.

B
- Lasts until most player factions have it
- Gives you one quarter your resource stat worth of 'energy' as additional trade that you can send out. (Note this is not cumulative with A)


Energy Crisis

All energy reserves are running out. All nations must BEFORE TURN 3 strive to achieve at least 1 point of trade for every 3 points of economy that they have more then resources (round down).This trade must be with nations that have one of the three energy techs (enhanced fossil fuels extraction; cold fusion; advanced solar cells)...((it doesn't have to be bonus trade, just normal trade will do)). Or they have to obtain such a tech themselves. Failure will cause temporary economic damage equal to 1 point for every point they have too little.

Currently only Mexico and Argentina have enhanced fossil fuel. Also Middle Eastern Nations have some (3pts) fuels, but 2 of those are currently claimed by India. (trade with Saudi Arabia and Oman) and Norway is trading 1 such point with Britain.

Example
(turn 1 stats) China has 10 economy and 6 resources, thus a deficit of 4 points. As such they need to gain 4/3 = 1.33 (round down) = 1 point of trade with an energy rich nation.

Australia has 8 economy and 9 resources, thus a deficit of -1points. As such it's self sufficient in it's energy need.

HAMMER

Hammer is successfully formed by CMSJ, the mixture of economic benifits and strategic protection being highly appealing to the central American and Caribbean nations (please just list all the Caribbean isles as one...). With the offer to share the energy.

@India the Burmese laborers are going to rise up, but to support India a wealth investment of some 2-3 points is needed to show goodwill. Otherwise they'll just replace the dictatorship. Also the government is still a dictatorship and will likely crush the laborers hard, unless India intervenes the riots will be crushed. Note that this only convinces a part of the population. Some good governance is probably needed to win a legitimate election (see civil stat in the status thread, remember that it again requires 1 wealth per point of good governance)

@Japan: please include your trade summary. I use it to determine minors attitudes.

@Argentina The west african rebels groups have great difficulty co-operating due to their leaders personality conflicts, but for now they form a loose alliance fighting against other rebels and rapidly unifying the territory.

A good feal of Bolivians are likely to want to side with you, especially the Spanish populations if you give them a financial (3-4 wealth) incentive. Still the government and a lot of others will resist. Likely you'll cause a civil war, but of course you could 'intervene'.

The guays happily take the blood money, but chili is highly superstitious. Your spies tell you that unless you play it well they'll likely work against you. Still their government happily takes the money (your spies tell you the unofficial stance).

@Turkey: Sure. It was done just before turn 1 ended. The gifts are stopped from reaching the people and numerous turkish flags are burned in the streets of Greece and Serbia and many other places in europe.

Burma in Uproar

Tired of years of oppression the Burmese take to the streets once more. As expected the government intervenes hard, smashing the protests with an iron fist and killing hundreds. Official figures state 10 criminals were shot whilst looting. For some reason the Burmese government is ill equipped to find the source of the protests and the protest leaders are not amongst those apprehended. As such the violence is spiraling fast out of control and it's likely that many more will die.

Opposition leaders call for regional powers to help them restore democracy.

@Eldan: Yep, you are right on the economy 3-1 deal. Good Co-GMing.
@Moody: Care to be a Co-GM?

OOC thread is open for use (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4092947#post4092947)

[Eldan]

Japan Trade summary:

Indonesia 5-5
Argentina 3-3
Brazil 5-5
ASEAN (there's really a lot of them): 4-4

Japanese space exploration project:

After launching a few small probes, the newly-formed Committee for Extraterestrial Operations decided that Earth's closest neighbour, Mars, is the most success promising target. They commence the Project "Fire Star" and launch 11 small probes, each containing a mining robot to find promising deposits of minerals.
"What does Japan need? We have beautiful landscapes, a strong industry, rich and happy people. What Japan needs, however, are two things: natural resources and space. We will find both on our red neighbour."

[Maldiem]

"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is in the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. ... When a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security."

--Thomas Jefferson, United States Declaration of Independence

((Rolled for unrest and corruption-- 6 unrest, 1 corruption, 10 civil. 7 used to remove everything. Post 38 in the dice thread.))

CMJS Calls for National Self-Determination In Southwestern US.

The National Legislature today approved a measure calling for the matter of secession to be voted on by the public in the American Southwest. The National Legislature promises to abide by the results of this free and uninfluenced election, regardless of its result, and will aid the emergent government in stabilizing itself and achieving international recognition. They direct the Liberation Front to campaign aggressively to put this measure on the state ballots, and direct the clout of the CMJS governmental agencies not involved in domestic affairs to this measure.

They further invite newly-independent states to join the CMJS at the same level of autonomy as other regions-- they need not adopt the CMJS's planned economic model if they do not want to (though the CMJS hopes that its great example will convince them that they do want to), and they, like all other provinces, are bound by almost nothing the National Legislature decides that they do not agree with.

((Spending 3 wealth to use all 3 points of available Good Governance to help this measure, and directing the Liberation Front to support it)).

CMJS Announces Availability of Oil Exports

The Provinces have voted to give the power of this allocation to the National Legislature Committee of Foreign Affairs, since we now have more than enough oil for our own needs. Our new 3:1 trade with HAMMER nations fulfills our promise to provide for their energy needs, and we have 10 extra points of trade to assign for this 5-year period.

[Jael_Darkwood]

Turn 2 India (2056-2060)

Stats
army 17 +0
navy 8 +0
air 10 +0
space 5 +0
pop 15 +0
econ 15 +1
resource 5 +0
spy 8 +2
tech 11 +2
civil 11 +1
nuclear 6 +0
defence 4 +0

wealth 35 +0
power 53 +2
social 27 +3
trade 19 +0
Trade 20:19 --

Pakistan 3:3
Mayanmar 2:2
Nepal 1:1
Burma 2:1
Iran 3:3
Khazikstan 2:2
Thailand 2:2
Saudi Arabia 2:2
Oman 1:1
Afghanistan 2:2

Special Projects :

Street of Faiths : 15 Wealth, ready for occupants

Hydroelectric Dam Modifications : 5 Wealth, completed.

Tech :
- 2 ppl know - Enhanced fossil fuel extraction 30pts : 0 +1
- Advanced Solar Cells 50pts : 0 +1
- Basic Nuclear Fusion 100pts : 0 +1
- Fuel Cells 50pts : 0 +1
- Greenhouse Reduction 100pts : 0 +20
- Synthetic Foods 50pts : 0 +6
- Quantum Computers 100pts : 0 +1
- Applied high energy physics 100pts : 0 +1
- Applied Particle Physics 200pts : 0 +1
- Body Replacements 80pts : 0 +1
- Genetic Medicine 80pts : 0 +1
- High Energy Nuclear Materials 50pts : 0 +1
- Supra-molecular Chemistry 150pts : 0 +1
- Auto deductive Programming 100pts : 0 +1


Street of Faiths

Open for business. "The Indian people welcome all recognized religions, and ask that you send us those willing to listen as well as speak, those without anger in their hearts. Send us your learned men, that all may learn from their discourse. To encourage those currently in armed conflict to reach a peace agreement, scholars from countries currently at war must delay until they are once again at peace with all neighbors."

Burma

After consultation with Burma, Indian contractors begin construction of a railroad through Burma, in a bid to increase co-operation, trade, and assist our beleaguered neighbor. (Investment to begin Turn3)

Pakistan

Indian diplomats are asked to give back Kashmir, reduce armament levels. India enters into negotiation to reduce its Nuclear Weapon Stockpile in lockstep with Pakistan, offers to set up a special referendum in Kashmir about the issue of rejoining Pakistan, tentative date set for 2061. (both actions, turn3)

China

1 Trade Wealth of our Oil trades with the middle east offered to China (as 1:1 trade through us), to joined by normal the turn after, an increase eventually to 5 trade (1 trade this time, fills your oil needs, 3 trade next turn, 5 turn after). If China chooses to give a trade imbalance (more to me), extra income will be invested in Economy, and returned to China next turn as a Trade Imbalance in the opposite direction (1:1+x this turn, 3+x:3 next turn, 5 turn after) max trade imbalance which will be returned will be x=4.

Orders


Maintenance : 24
Income : 40 - 24 = 16

'Special' Investments : 1 Wealth (network), 3 Wealth (Support those burmese)
Increase Economy : 6 Wealth (+3)
Increase Civil : 6 Wealth (+3) (or special as needed, if can invest in espionage investments this turn)


Civil
7 total spent : Corruption and Unrest

Tech
Primary : +24 Greenhouse reduction
Secondary : +9 Synthetic Foods
Tertiary : +2 All (doubled for fossil fuel extraction)
Civil
-pending.
Espionage :
Cover 17

Secondary - 6 : Purchase the army of Burma, Immediately (1 wealth ready to be used)
Tertiary - 2 : Purchase the civil score of Burma

Other Espionage
Blocked : 6

- Special, not visible to counter-esp in India -

Primary : Secrecy
Secondary - 3 : Assassinate leader of Burma, blame army
Tertiary - 1 : Help India buy Burmese Civil Score

Orders through Intelligence Network :
Burmese Rebels will protest peacefully for the right to elect their own officials. Burmese army will react violently due to orders from Tyrant, then army officials will kill the president, set up elections, Burma will elect to become part of India, India will accept and set up Burma as its own province of India. 3 wealth goes to Support the Burmese, if I can purchase Burma Civil & Army, I wish to spend that Civil score increase cash on those purchases.

- After turmoil in Burma Starts -

India Moves a large portion of its Combined forces (Primarily Land, with Air & Sea forces also coming closer to support) to the Burmese border, and Officially Requests that Burma find a peaceful solution to its internal problems. Meanwhile, any and all fleeing the zone of conflict are offered Indian citizenship, and integrated into nearby provinces.

[Eldan]

Revised spendings turn 2 (short form):

Tech: 8
Economy: 8
Space: 4
Civic: 4

[Wizard of the Coat]

Revised spendings turn 3 (short form):

Tech: 8
Economy: 8
Space: 4
Civic: 4

It's still turn 2. (will end fridayish...1 1/2 week turns seem about right considering the actions taken by people)

[Zid]

Spoilered for space




Russia 5:5
South Africa 2:2
Iceland 1:1
Norway 1:1
USA 5:5

NEU: 3:3 (Subject to GM fiat!) <=IT this OK Wizard?


Upkeep: -16

Wealth +18

Army: 4 + 1 = 5
Navy: 8 + 0 = 8
Airforce: 7 + 0 = 7

Space: 8 + 5 = 13
Pop: 2 + 0,2= 2,2
Economy: 12 + 1 = 13
Resouces: 4 + 0= 4
Spy: 5 +0 =5

Tech:10 +0 =10
Civil: 9 + 0 = 9
Nuclear: 3 +0 = 3
Defences:3 + 3= 3

Spending:

Economy 14
Space building Battlestation: 1
Space expansion 2
Reserves 1



Changed space spending because of changed rules: Now built a battle station 8/20 first turn. Complete the battlestation and spend one build point this turn 20/20.

Prospect moon for one space point.

Tech: Primary: Enhanced fossile fuels: 17 +7 from last turn(doubled) COMPLETE

Secondary: Basic Nuclear fusion 10 +8 = 18/100


UNREST + CORRUPTION: 6 (-9 from civil stat)

Tertiary: Synth foods 1/50

@Wizard: Last turn, Britain spent two points of wealth and placed a large portion of its military as peacekeepers in the central african conflict. I still havn´t gotten any response to this. Did you miss it?

@Wizard: Spying cover 4 Brittish spys and diplomats try to influence countries in the NEU to link closer with Britain through trade and military agreements. We also to to buy NEU space assets if they are willing. Ideally, we try to form a new union with Britain as a leading force Strength: 9. Rolled 1 "6" for 1 extra benefit.

[Eldan]

Corrected... should have been turn 2.

[Wizard of the Coat]

Spoilered for space




Russia 5:5
South Africa 2:2
Iceland 1:1
Norway 1:1
USA 5:5

NEU: 3:3 (Subject to GM fiat!) <=IT this OK Wizard?


Upkeep: -16

Wealth +18

Army: 5 + 0 = 5
Navy: 8 + 0 = 8
Airforce: 7 + 0 = 7

Space: 13 + 9 = 21
Pop: 2 + 0,2= 2,2
Economy: 13 + 0 = 13
Resouces: 4 + 0= 4
Spy: 5 +0 =5

Tech:10 +0 =10
Civil: 9 + 0 = 9
Nuclear: 3 +0 = 3
Defences:3 + 3= 3

Changed space spending because of changed rules: Now built a space dock 8/20 first turn. Complete the space dock this turn 20/20.

Prospect moon for one space point.

Tech: Primary: Enhanced fossile fuels: 17 +7 from last turn(doubled) COMPLETE

Secondary: Basic Nuclear fusion 10 +8 = 18/100


UNREST + CORRUPTION: 6 (-9 from civil stat)

Tertiary: Synth foods 1/50

Trade with NEU is possible.

Unfortunatly your stats lineup is wrong. You have to show the increases that you got at the start of turn 2. to represent the effects that your turn 1 budget had. I want to be able to see how much your stats increased going from turn 1 to turn 2.

For instance space should read:

space: 8 + 5 = 13 right now

AT THE START OF TURN 3 you'd write instead:

space: 13 + 9 = 21 (BUT ONLY STARTING NEXT TURN)

This lineup is so I (or another GM) can easily see if you didn't make any errors and for other players to be able to judge your strength during turn 2. The format is standardized as I don't want any 'miss interpretations'.

Also on the issue of your space spending a 'space dock' does absolutely nothing without an investment of wealth to build up the asset. Currently you are throwing away your space points. You'd need to rocket up 2 points of wealth to create a 1 point asset at the very least. (this asset can take any shape, but cannot be an economical resources in orbit untill you have the tech to power it without sending up packages from earth (ie. you need cold fusion or advanced solar cells))


@Wizard: Last turn, Britain spent two points of wealth and placed a large portion of its military as peacekeepers in the central african conflict. I still havn´t gotten any response to this. Did you miss it?

Ehm, yes I did. I'll place these peacekeepers in Kenya and Tanzania. The people are thankful, especially for the generous wealth injection. But unless they actually do something the violence will endure. (ie...do they do anything to stop people shooting at each other...essentially unless your forces get involved with the conflict/give money or weapons to one side to make them do the dirty work the violence will go on. IE. what pressure do you put on the parties or do you let them fight? (essentially this is the problem UN peacekeepers have often faced...you can be there and protect the people...but how do you get them to stop shooting each other...)


@Wizard: Spying cover 4 Brittish spys and diplomats try to influence countries in the NEU to link closer with Britain through trade and military agreements. We also to to buy NEU space assets if they are willing. Ideally, we try to form a new union with Britain as a leading force Strength: 9. Rolled 1 "6" for 1 extra benefit.

@EVERYONE Please read the rules in the status thread. I have changed the rules on espionage, civic, tech and put a few minor tweaks in others as I had complaints that they were too complex. It's now a direct investment of POINTS spread over STRENGTH and COVER as you prefer.

@Britain
Almost all space assets were claimed by KoH, as they were based in French colonies like French Guyana. In addition NEU has no interest in selling them, they are trying to set up their own space program again. ((no nation will sell you anything at a ratio that is profitable to you, unless they are actively disarming or have no need for the things or undergo a crisis))

Do note that if you want to merge with them openly just use diplomacy. Espionage involves killing leaders/sabotaging their actions/smuggling funds to pro British rebels etc...

Benificial trade agreements (or in fact any kind) will increase your mutual reputation. Also good governance spend on the EU (ie spending money on development aid and showing 'how great' britain is will really help convince the people (see what mexico is doing in the South West US)

@US and Mexico:

Mexico's influence on the southwest US is growing and unless you do something it could declare independence

Birma

The Birmese military Junta warns India that violations of it's sovereignty will be responded with. The troop buildup is unacceptable. In addition they demand that the 'hostages' (the refugees) are returned to them.

((Note civil spending doesn't work like that...see the OOC rules post))

The Burmese opposition however, still at large calls upon 'their grand neighbour' to help them and prevent further bloodshed. Again the death toll is increasing as the government finds control is hard to maintain.




@Japan
I'm assuming the probes were 11 points of space.

Your scientists believe they are lucky when they find 3 points worth of resources in the guise of valuable mineral ores in veins trapped just below the surface.

Space Exploration Count
Mars: 11

[LongVin]

OOC: Sorry guys but I think I am going to have to resign from the game. For some reason I'm just not feeling it and can't get into the game. If I wasn't a major power I would try to tough it out, but the game needs an active U.S.

I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

Maybe at a later date I'll return to play as a minor/moderate power but right now I can't get myself interested no matter what I try.

[kentma57]

Space Exploration Count
Mars: 11

I guess you are marking how much each plantet has been explored...

[Eldan]

I guess you are marking how much each plantet has been explored...

That's how many points I spent.

[kentma57]

That's how many points I spent.

rereads thread, your right by bad :smallsmile:

Canada (Turn 2, part 2)

Mars exploration
"Today Canada has anounced its continued efforts to explore Mars"

Crunch: Canada will use its 7 space points(That I had the start of turn two) to explore Mars.

and if I need to roll...[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
[roll5]
[roll6]

[Nerd-o-rama]

Federal Republic of Ukraine - Turn 2 Start

Statistics
Army: 2 +2
Navy: 3
Air: 3 +2
Space: 3
Population: 1
Economy: 4 +1
Resources: 6
Spy: 4
Tech: 7
Civil: 7
Nuclear: 0
Defenses: 0

Spending
Wealth: +12 (1+5+6)
Income from Turn 1 Trade (and aid packages): +23

Economy +7 (14)
Defenses +5 (10)
Army +1 (2)
Navy +2 (4)
Tech +2 (4)
Spending 1 point directly on Research
In the rebuilding after the 2051 incident, The Federal Republic of Ukraine's economy has kicked into high gear. With government contracts going out left and right to both local manufacturers and foreign investors, and aid pouring in from generous foreign governments, Ukraine's economic capacity is projected to surpass pre-attack levels by a wide margin as the rebuilding and improvement of aging infrastructure, industrial capacity, and military capability generates large amounts of capital.

In addition, Prime Minister Dzubenko has announced the development of a comprehensive Anti-ballistic Missile (ABM) and Theater Missile Defense (TMD) system for his nation, based on the United States' missile interception systems. "Ukraine will remain a completely non-nuclear state," Dzubenko said in an address to Parliament, "but we cannot allow ourselves to be caught off-guard again. This ABM defense will shield our people from any further predation by irresponsible nuclear powers. It is our responsibility to protect the people of Ukraine, and this missile shield will do just that."

Trade
Total Available: 11 (3 points per country maximum)
NEU and KOH 5:10 NPC, Established by treaty
Russia 3:3 Not Confirmed
Belarus 1:1 NPC
Romania: 1:1 NPC
Bulgaria: 1:1 NPC

Total 11:16

@Russia (and EAST minors)
We would like to continue our previous free trade agreement, as per EAST's charter.

Research
Current Progress
Synthetic Foods: 16
Nuclear Fusion: 9
All others: 4

Research Rolls (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4111016&postcount=50) (Primary: Enhanced Fossil Fuel Extraction Secondary: Nuclear Fusion)
Primary: +14 x2 for known tech = +28
Secondary: +4
All others: +2

Totals at end of turn (so far)
Enhanced Fossil Fuels Extraction: 32 (finished!)
Nuclear Fusion: 13
Synthetic Foods: 18
All others: 6

Allied Research (EAST minors) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4115469&postcount=51)
Primary: +12 x2 for known tech = +24
Secondary: +4
Tertiary: +1

New Totals
Enhanced Fossil Fuels Extraction: 56 (still finished)
Nuclear Fusion: 17
Synthetic Foods: 19
All others: 7
Ukraine, in an effort to accomodate its rapidly expanding economy, is in the process of upgrading its flagging oil wells to extract a few more years' worth of fossil fuel from the soil. "We in the Federal Republic have committed to the research of next-generation energy production, and believe wholeheartedly in moving beyond antiquated fossil fuels," said a spokesperson for the Ministry of Science and Technology. "However, economic considerations dictate that we make as much as we can out of petroleum-based energy until such time as other energy sources become feasible."

@Russia
Ukraine would like to agree to Research Cooperation on Nuclear Fusion, if that suits you.

Anyone else interested in a joint venture on this technology may also contact us.

Espionage - GM Eyes Only
3 points: Counter-espionage
4 points: see next post.

[Wizard of the Coat]

USA

Frightened by the movements that want to seceede the newly elect US president Anton Lindon cites a famous US president in saying similarly to Abraham Lincoln that "the Union was an unbreakable contract", further going that "any attempts to break it are unconstitutional and to be dealt with as treason".

Still more and more northern states are looking to Canada to see if their northern neighbour will support the Anglosaxon plight.

to Mexico

The president openly adresses Mexico. "We will not tolerate further acts by your government in our country, any further acts to undemine our sovereignty will be regarded as acts of state terrorism and could result in grave concequences." No further comments on the nature of the concequences was given, but the buildup of US forces in the seccesionist states is an indication as to the seriousness of their intent.


@Ukraine
Did you remember to add the economy bonus from the NEU-KOH plan (the 10 trade to build up economy for you)

East members are glad to continue in free trade, but they are also keen on sharing of research information as their energy reserves are running out. ((if accepted add 1 dice for each minor and treat them as a single research partner))

Birma

In an unexpected move several key burmese military leaders were assasinated by a group of colonels calling themselves, "the fathers of democracy". The impact is a sudden collapse of government. Still the void is filled quickly as a massive aid influx from India allows the colonels to take the reins in the country and set a date for elections. The leader of the colonels is a birmese with clear sympathies for india and whose party proposes a merger with their next door neighbour. Wether this will succeed remains to be seen.

Malasia and Tailand have expressed concern that the 'anschluss' with India could upset the balance of power and urge the SEA council to negotiate a more balanced deal.

@canada
You find 2 points worth of resources on mars. Valuable minerals mostly.



Space Exploration Count
Mars: 18

[kentma57]

Official press release:

"Canada, is appalled that the US continues to mistreat a large portion of its population based on race alone. While we do not support violence, we will support the Hispanic people's quest for equality."

EDIT: Right I suppose I have 5 spy point so...

Espionage - GM Only 5 points to counter espionage.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Ukraine is happy to share the fruits of their research with their allies (updating research count above. There are 7 minors in EAST, right?)

OOC
And yes, I accounted for the NEU+KOH contributions. I added ten wealth to my trade/aid packages income, and I made sure to spend all ten points of it on improving Economy. In fact, I can officially account for all my foreign aid income that way, with the military spending coming from my normal wealth and trade.

Also, I noticed I did my "spending wealth on research" wrong, adding another die instead of another point. Assume I spent 1 point of Good Governance in addition to the Wealth; I have all seven of my Civil points to spare.

Unofficial update on Ukraine's alliances:
EAST (Ukraine is co-founder with Russia): Russia, Georgia, Armenia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova and Belarus.
Balkan Mutual Protection Pact (Greece and Serbia are co-founders): Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania.

@EAST (including Russia if he's planning on coming back)
Today at an EAST conference in Minsk, the Federal Republic of Ukraine's representative proposed a massive joint-venture between the members of the alliance in the advancement of space exploration, building on Ukraine and Russia's current space programs. Citing dwindling resources and rising unrest, the representative said that mankind must, as they have for millenia, look to the stars for their future. The proposal includes the mining of the moon, Venus, and Mars for useful minerals, and the building of space stations for solar energy collection and hydroponic farming.

Espionage - GM Eyes Only
3 points remain in counterespionage
Cover 3, Strength 1
I'll send some spies to learn everything I can from the Canadian-Japanese space cooperative thing they've got going on. If I must specify a country to steal info from, make it Canada, but I'm really looking at the program as a whole

[Wizard of the Coat]

@Canada
Ukrainian spies have been arrested in the Space Agency, trying to steal your Martian data.

@Ukrain
Your spies in Canada have been aprehended by the Canadian government. It is unclear if they managed to erase any traces to you in time.

Burma

After winning some 65% of the votes, the new Burmese leader announces the merger with India. It passes with a few independents voting in favor.

India adds:

Pop: 1
Econ: 1
Res: 1
Spy: 3
Army: 3
Navy: 2
Air: 2
Nuclear: 2 (large chemical and biological weapon storages were found)

Cyprus

With the resistance dying down Turkey clearly is able to dominate the small island. Whilst officially independent the island is now a clear Turkish vassal... foreign media are reporting a 'new ottoman empire' in the make.

Turkey adds:

Econ: 1
Res: 1 (mostly due to exclusive economic zone)
Tech: 1

WASB

Ghana, Sierra Leone, Burkina Faso, Liberia, and Cote d'Ivoire are all merged into this new nation as united rebel groups manage to seize most of the territory. The new state is fragile as the leaders of the groups don't like another too much, but seems to be announcing itself to be the West African Socialist Bloc.

Congolese Socialist Republic

In the Congo a new state is born due to a rebel army, that promises social equality and economic liberation from capitalism.

British Peacekeepers holding ground

Kenia and Tanzania are stabilizing due to a large British garrison presence.

Armenia defeated

Finally Azerbaijans tanks roll into the Armenia capitol and force the government to capitulate. Although some territorial disputes were settled it now seems that this occupation could last longer. Armenians cry out to Russia to intervene, saying 'it was better to be one with Russia under the soviet union, the be occupied by Azerbaijan'

Economy stabilised

No more nuclear war and only a handful of trouble spots stabilizes the economy. Analyst predict that under current trend the economy might boom in the coming years.

US

The US warns that it is not about race, but about nationhood. None will be discriminated, but the Union will be unbroken. Still it seems that the harsh crackdown on rioters is creating more resentment.

((some more stuff might come))

Energy crisis

Still in full swing, but as more and more countries are getting alternative fuel sources it seems that the might very well instead come a boom of the economy as fuel prices might finally drop after half a century of records.

Range of NEU Political scandals

Prominent NEU politicians have resigned over allegations of their actions in the previouis regimes. A new generation of politicians coming in seem to optimistic about the future and invite BRITAIN and ireland to join them as a third pillar. The "Germanic, British and Scandinavia" pillars would be formed under the new union, each with it's own regional government, but with benefits for the collective.

@BritainI interpreted your espionage loosely as it was hard to make it work exactly, but feel free to set the 'collective benefits' as you wish.

Turn 3 has started

Some conflicts:
- Parts of Africa
- Caucassus... the republics there are calling for russian aid, georgia wishes to invoke EAST to prevent the spread of disintergration.
- Energy crisis still ongoing. You should get energy (tech or trade with nations with enhanced fossil fuels extraction tech) or suffer the penalties.

New Techs

Enhanced Fossil fuel extraction

At least 6 people have this tech now I think, so read the rules for that. Keep in mind that the bonuses are reduced (representing that this too is a limited resource).

Advanced Solar Cells
The ability that advanced solar cells offer is a stable alternative to fossil fuels. Whilst not being as economically profitable as extraction from the soil as the collectors are still expensive, it is a large step forward.

It resolves a countries energy needs and makes space colonization yet another step closer.

Distances between planets in the inner solar system (Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars) now reduce their distance factor to 1, rather then 3. (due to more light in the inner solar system making these systems effective enough here).

(so moving from earth surface to mars is about as expensive as going to the moon as the mission doesn't need to be refueled)

The outer solar system still costs the same.

POPULATION GROWTH: 10%

[Eldan]

Japanese Orders

Espionage:

I use all I have on counter espionage. It's not much, but better than nothing.


Japan uses it's two points of good governance to help out any ASEAN members in need of help.

"It is our duty to help people everywhere. Corruption is a crime and a threat to all democracy."
-Daily Sunrise, Shogun's Quote of the Day

[kentma57]

@UkrainIn the name of Diplomacy Canada is quietly releasing your "citizens" and we are also providing your space program with the location of a rich mineral deposit. (1 resource point)

@GMIf you have not already read the message above.

[kentma57]

Canada (Turn 3)

Recent Goverment initiatives:
Clean Power: "Through co-operation with Japan Canada is now completely Green." (Press Release)

Economic Bost: "With the recent buisnes incentives, tax breaks and scientific break throughs Canada's economy is booming." (Global Economist)

Space program: "In recent years we have made many breakthroughs in the field of science, we are happy to anounce that a large breakthrough will soon allow us to experiment with colinization." (Press Release)

Crunch:
Stats:Stats:

Army 7 + 0 = 7
Navy 5 + 0 = 5
Air 8 + 0 = 8
Space 18 + 10 = 28
Population 3.63 + 0 = 3.63
Economy 6 + 3 = 9
Resources 15 + 0 = 15
Spy 5 + 0 = 5
Tech 13 + 0 = 13
Civil 10 + 0 = 10
Nuclear 0 + 0 = 0
Defense 3 + 0 = 3

Wealth 24 + 3 = 27
Power 28 + 0 = 28
Social 38 + 10 = 48

Total 93 + 13 = 106

Finaces:Wealth = +24
Trade = +21
Upkeep = -18
Remaining = 27

Actions:Space: +10
Economy: +3

Research: Primary "Advanced Solar Cells"(x2 for known tech, x2 for help from Japan), Secondary "Applied Particle Physics"
[roll0] = 2 Primary, 1 Secondary
[roll1] = 2 Primary
[roll2] = 1 Primary
[roll3] = 2 Primary, 1 Secondary
[roll4] = 1 Primary
[roll5] = 1 Primary
[roll6] = 3 Primary, 2 Secondary, 1 Tertiary
[roll7] = 3 Primary, 2 Secondary, 1 Tertiary
[roll8] = 1 Primary
[roll9] = 1 Primary
[roll10] = 2 Primary
[roll11] = 2 Primary, 1 Secondary
[roll12] = 1 Primary
20x4(80) primary
6 Secondary
2 Tertiary
The one reamining wealth is spent to help research "Applied Particle Physics".

Current research totals:

"Advanced Solar Cells" = 108/50 DONE
"Applied Particle Physics" = 11/200
All others = 2


Espionage:All 5 to counter-espionage.

Space:I will use 16 points to start work on mining one of the resources on Mars (leaves it at 4/20)
I will use the other 2 to explore Mars; the rolls are in the roll thread(http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74665&page=2) post 55, just use the first two(I was going to use more to research but I changed my mind).

[Nerd-o-rama]

@Canada
Ah. Ha. Yes, we sincerely and off-the-record apologize for that. All in the name of scientific advancement, you know. Won't happen again.

OOC: You know, I think I mixed up my Spy stat and overspent anyway...or maybe that's why I failed. Argh, numbers.

Federal Republic of Ukraine - Turn 3 Start

Statistics
Army: 4 +1
Navy: 3 +2
Air: 5
Space: 3
Population: 1 +.1
Economy: 5 +7
Resources: 6
Spy: 4
Tech: 7 +2
Civil: 7
Nuclear: 0
Defenses: 0 +5

Power: 24
Wealth: 19.1
Social: 19
Total: 62

Unrest Roll. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4119952&postcount=53)
Spending

Wealth: 1+12+6 = 19
Income from Turn 2 Trade: +16
Upkeep: 62/5 = -12
Total: 23

Economy +3 (6)
Civil +3 (6)
Space +2 (4)
Good Governance 7 (7) - Sent to all EAST minors (Georgia, Armenia*, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova and Belarus.)

*The legitimate government, not the Azerbaijani occupiers.
Ukraine's economy continues to boom thanks to the government's pro-business policies. The manufacturing and housing sectors, in particular, have been extremely bullish. The Ukrainian government has taken advantage of the vastly increased tax revenue both to further cut business taxes and invest in improving the nation's civil infrastructure, primarily in the transportation and healthcare sectors, with new freeway and MagLev networks, and a thorough revamp of the national healthcare system and several new major hospitals. The Ukrainian Space Agency is also receiving some of the governments windfall, as Ukraine gears up for the new age of space exploration by improving its launch and control facilities.

@EAST
Ukraine has also enacted, unilaterally, a policy of civil and governmental aid to the minor nations of EAST. The "good governance" policy is offered freely to Georgia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova and Belarus, with Ukrainian civil authorities offering their assistance to the smaller countries in improving their government in whatever way they see fit. In the case of Armenia, Ukraine has offered assistance in rebuilding in the aftermath of Azerbaijani aggression. Ukraine has also stated that similar assistance will be provided to anyone who joins EAST in the future, "up to our ability to provide it, of course."

Trade
Total Available: 18 (+1.5 ENERGY trade)
Per Country: 6

NEU and KOH 10:10 (NPC, established by treaty)
Russia 3:3 Previously established
Romania 1:1 NPC
Bulgaria 1:1 NPC
Greece 1:1 NPC
Serbia 1:1 NPC
Moldova 1:1 NPC
Belarus 1:1 NPC

Total 19:19
Nothing much new here, just free trade among EAST, including oil exports to whomever needs it. And treaty-established trade ties with NEU and KOH

Research
Current Progress
Enhanced Fossil Fuels Extraction: completed
Nuclear Fusion: 17
Synthetic Foods: 19
All others: 7

Own Research Rolls (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4120019&postcount=54) (Primary: Nuclear Fusion Secondary: Synthetic Foods
Primary: +16
Secondary: +12
Tertiary: 0

New Totals
Enhanced Fossil Fuels Extraction: completed
Nuclear Fusion: 33
Synthetic Foods: 31
All others: 7

Research agreements pending
Research agreement negotiation pending

Espionage - GM Eyes Only
Counter-Espionage 4

[Jael_Darkwood]

Turn 3 India (2061-2065)

Trade (publicly viewable)
Pakistan 3:3
Mayanmar 2:2
Nepal 2:1
China 3:3 (new)
Iran 3:3
Khazikstan 2:2
Thailand 2:2
Saudi Arabia 2:2
Oman 1:1
Afghanistan 2:2
Japan 1:1

Next Turn Trades
Japan 2:2
China 5:5
KOH 3:3


Stats (Assuming Mayanmar/Burma Add is immediate, taking effect for beginning of T3)
army 17 +3
navy 8 +2
air 10 +2
space 5 +0
pop 16.5 +2.65 (adjusted for 10% missed growth turn1)
econ 16 +4
resource 5 +1
spy 12 +3
tech 15 +0
4civil 13 +3
nuclear 6 +2
defence 4 +0





wealth 35 +9.15
power 55 +9
social 30 +3

trade 21 +5
Trade 20:20

Pakistan 3:3
Nepal 1:1
China 3:3 (new)
Iran 3:3
Khazikstan 2:2
Thailand 2:2
Saudi Arabia 2:2
Oman 1:1
Afghanistan 2:2
Japan 1:1

Next Turn Trades
Japan +2:+2
China +2:+2
KOH +4:+4



Special Projects :

Street of Faiths : 15 Wealth, ready for occupants

Hydroelectric Dam Modifications : 5 Wealth, completed.

Tech :
- 6 ppl know - Enhanced fossil fuel extraction 30pts : 2 +8
- 1+ ppl know - Advanced Solar Cells 50pts : 1 +4
- Basic Nuclear Fusion 100pts : 1 +2
- Fuel Cells 50pts : 1 +2
- Greenhouse Reduction 100pts : 20 +24
- Synthetic Foods 50pts : 6 +9
- Quantum Computers 100pts : 1 +2
- Applied high energy physics 100pts : 1 +2
- Applied Particle Physics 200pts : 1 +2
- Body Replacements 80pts : 1 +2
- Genetic Medicine 80pts : 1 +2
- High Energy Nuclear Materials 50pts : 1 +2
- Supra-molecular Chemistry 150pts : 1 +2
- Auto deductive Programming 100pts : 1 +2
- +2
- +2


Indian Population Celebrates Its Leaders!

With one of the worlds foremost systems of Law & Governance, and an unprecedented level of inter-religion tolerance, the Indian people spontaneously celebrate their freedoms, luck, and local areas. Birma is flooded with volunteer assistance, and the Kashmir region is practically shut down for extended celebrations.

(spending 3 civil on improving conditions in Birma, 7 on cementing the love of the Kashmir people)

Vote Set for Kashmir

As offered, a special vote on secession is set up in Kashmir, set for Spring of 2065.

Burma

The provinces of burma (probably will be split into two new provinces of India) are swarmed by reconstruction engineers, as Indian invests in modernization. (tech investment, good governance)

Nuclear Stockpile Reduction

Indian government offers to reduce its nuclear arms by 4 points if matched by Pakistan reducing it's stockpile by 3 points. It calls out to other regional leaders to match it in this endeavor. (reducing by half it's WMD stockpiles).

China

I'm assuming the trade offer went through, 3:3 (as elektro is mostly afk)

Kingdom of Heaven

4:4 trade offered, other trade partners will be welcomed if KOH declines.

High speed & Freight Railway system (civil and economic investments for this turn)

Indian engineering firms and military engineers begin construction and refurbishment of High speed mass transit systems between the different regions. Inter-provincial travel is encouraged to foster a sense of National unity. Heavy Freight lines are constructed from interior zones to the nearest port city also.

Indian Ocean

India opens negotiations with Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia and Australia (and minor powers) to increase policing of the Indian Ocean, possibly forming a neutral military force of combined navies.

Jupiter

India Announces it's new space project : A closer look at Jupiter's moons. Over the next 5 years, various probes and 1 manned mission will be sent to map out possible landing sites on the largest moons, as well as perform a more detailed chemical analysis.

Orders


Maintenance : 28.2
Income : (19.15 Pop + 6 Resource + 20 Econ + 20 Trade )65.15(65) - 28.2(28) = 37
(I will always round to nearest)

'Special' Investments : 3 Wealth - good governance Birma
Increase Economy : 10 Wealth (+5)
Increase Tech : 10 Wealth (+5)
Increase Civil : 6 Wealth (+3)
Increase Espionage : 8 Wealth (+4)

Space

8 Primary - Find possible colony locations on the moons of Jupiter
3 Secondary - Find mineral resources

Civil
6 total spent : Corruption and Unrest
3 on improving conditions in Birma (3 wealth spent)
7 on cementing the love of the Kashmir people

Tech
Primary : +30 Greenhouse reduction
Secondary : +5 Synthetic Foods
Tertiary : +1 All (doubled for fossil fuel extraction, solar cells)

Espionage :

Counter-Espionage : 8
Espionage : 7
Cover : 6

Strength : 1 - Infiltrate Pakistan Espionage Corps, Report on activities

[Eldan]

Japan, Turn 3

Status

Power: 27
Army: 5
Navy: 8
Air: 7
Spy: 3
Nuclear:0
Defence:4

Wealth: 28
Population:3.63
Economy: 18+4=22
Resources:3

Social:41
Space: 11+2=13
Tech: 12+4=16
Civil: 10+2=12

Total: 96
Upkeep: 19
Trade: 21

Money available: 28-19+21=30


Trade Breakdown

Indonesia 5-5
Argentina 3-3
Brazil 5-5
ASEAN (there's really a lot of them): 4-4
India: 1-1 (Waiting for agreement)
Turkey: 3-3


Project Firestar
"This is a great day. Project Firestar, now a Project of both Canada and Japan, will launch the first mission to mars. It will be a small, manned mission, to explore and mine for resources.
-The Shogun's great Speeches, Library of the Congress, Tokyo

DM only:

I contribute 12 points to the Canadian Mars station. This should be used to build advanced solar cells equal to one point of economy. 1 point goes into further exploration.
My good governance goes into ASEAN again.
Also, my mighty 3 points of spy go into counterespionage.


Spending:
10 wealth: +5 economy
16 wealth: +8 tech
4 wealth: +2 space

[nothingclever]

Turn 3

STATS FOR AUSTRALIA

Army: 5 +0= 5
Navy: 7 +0 = 7
Air: 9 +0 = 9
Spy: 3 +0 = 3
Nuclear: 0 +0 = 0
Defenses: 0 +0 = 0
Power: 24 +0 = 24

Population: 1.10 +0.11 = 1.21
Economy: 8 +0 = 8
Resources: 9 +0 = 9
Wealth: 18 +0 = 18

Space: 0 +0 = 0
Tech: 25 +1 = 26
Civil: 10 +0 = 10
Social: 35 +1 = 36

Trade summary for turn 2 (17:17)
Indonesia 5:5
New Zealand 4:4
Malaysia 4:4
Philippines 4:4

Basically all that's happening is +1 tech again.

I'll add more later if something happens.

[Eldan]

@DM, Canada:

I changed my space spendings, see post above.

[kentma57]

Current Canadian/Japanese projects on Mars:
DM/Japan only:
Mine(1 resource) 4/20
Power Plant(Advanced Solar Cells) 6/20

[Nerd-o-rama]

Spending flavor text added to above post

Ukraine's economy continues to boom thanks to the government's pro-business policies. The manufacturing and housing sectors, in particular, have been extremely bullish. The Ukrainian government has taken advantage of the vastly increased tax revenue both to further cut business taxes and invest in improving the nation's civil infrastructure, primarily in the transportation and healthcare sectors, with new freeway and MagLev networks, and a thorough revamp of the national healthcare system and several new major hospitals. The Ukrainian Space Agency is also receiving some of the governments windfall, as Ukraine gears up for the new age of space exploration by improving its launch and control facilities.

@EAST
Ukraine has also enacted, unilaterally, a policy of civil and governmental aid to the minor nations of EAST. The "good governance" policy is offered freely to Georgia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova and Belarus, with Ukrainian civil authorities offering their assistance to the smaller countries in improving their government in whatever way they see fit. In the case of Armenia, Ukraine has offered assistance in rebuilding in the aftermath of Azerbaijani aggression. Ukraine has also stated that similar assistance will be provided to anyone who joins EAST in the future, "up to our ability to provide it, of course."
@Britain, NEU, KOH, European minors
In the absence of replies from Moscow, Ukraine would like to propose a joint-venture space program between the nations of Europe. This would be an expansion of our earlier proposal for a program exclusive to EAST. We are also interested in research partnerships to make our goals of unlimited energy and space exploration happen faster.

@EAST
In an easily-passed parliamentary measure completed earlier today, Ukraine agreed to designate 20% of its armed forces as under EAST jurisdiction, dedicating that number of troops to the alliance on a permanent basis. PM Dzubenko has encouraged, in very strong terms, the other members of the alliance to enact similar measures.

Unless there is an objection from other members, Ukraine will suggest that EAST troops go to protecting Georgia from potential Azerbaijani aggression. (Unless Georgia objects, Ukraine will station 1 Army and 2 Air in Georgian territory)

@Azerbaijan
Ukraine has, perhaps unfairly, turned a blind eye to your aggression in the Caucasus, thinking Russia might want to deal with it themselves. However, we can no longer tolerate your aggression toward our allies. First, any further attacks on sovereign EAST nations will be met with military reprisal, in accordance with the EAST charter. Second, we call upon the United Nations and all nations of the world to help end the occupation of Armenia by a foreign power. Azerbaijan should withdraw their troops from foreign territory immediately; an impartially moderated negotiation can settle the territory dispute.

@Russia, rest of EAST (secret)
We can't let Azerbaijan just run amok in the Caucasus. I've already begun the process of shoring up Georgia's defenses (Georgia, I also suggest you use my governmental assistance to bolster your Army), but we must consider the possibility that we need to liberate Armenia by force or threat of force. Moreover, this should help Russia's little social issues in their Caucasian provinces. Together, and with a solid commitment of troops, I have no doubt that we can take on Azerbaijan and their allies. Russia's air force, in particular, is needed to counteract the Afghan and Pakistani air support. Russia's covert support alone was not enough to protect Armenia, but with all of us together, I believe we can liberate it.

@Turkey (secret)
If you're still interested in supporting Armenian independence, we and EAST can be potentially very appreciative of any help.

[viggo]

stats at the beginning of turn 2

Army = 13.5
Navy = 9
Air = 7.9
economy == 10.33
resources == 4
spy = 7
tech = 8
civil =9

Special:
advanced solar cells 15
synthetic foods 5
everything else 1


Trade summary turn 2:

Russia 4:4
Ukraine 4:4
KoH 2:2
NEU 2:2
Armenia 2:2*
.33 to Greek propaganda project

spending turn 2

28 -- 13.75 upkeep == 14.25 spendable. 7.125 stat boosts

Army = 13.5
Navy = 9
Air 7.9 + .1 = 8
economy 10.33 + 2.67 = 13
resources = 5
spy 7 + 2 = 9
tech 8 + 2 = 10
civil =9

.355 to UN (extra dues, hopefully recover some diplomatic capital)

tech rolls turn 2

advanced solar cells 15 + 18 == 33
synthetic foods 5 + 5 == 10
everything else 1 + 2 == 3

[Moody the Wise]

Turn 2 Budget


1.1 Pop + 10 Eco + 8 Res = +19.1 Wealth
71.1 points Total / 5 = -14.22 Upkeep
+14 trade
= 18.88 Wealth to spend

2 Wealth = 1 point of spy
6 Wealth = 3 points of tech
4 Wealth = 2 points of civil
1 Wealth to Peru, foci restore order, promote social justice
1 Wealth to West African Socialist Bloc, focus on successful cooperation
.8 Wealth to Compensatory packages as per Greece-Turkey peace treaty
4 Wealth to Bolivia to integrate into UCS, foci promote smooth transition, raise tech level/standard of living


I'm posting this anyway, even though it's technically turn 3. I was waiting on a few things - and one of those things, the Greece-Turkey peace treaty, is still unresolved - before posting a finalized budget.

Fluffy bits about this, new turn 3 status, and such will be up later, after work gets done.

[kentma57]

@DM/Japan I changed my last post (post 200)

[Eldan]

@DM; Canada


The power plant is at 18/20, my 12 points included.

[kentma57]

@DM; Canada


The power plant is at 18/20, my 12 points included.


@Japan/GMNo the 6 it had was your 12 points, there is a 1:2 ratio(for every 2 points you spend you get 1 build point out of the 20 needed.)

[kentma57]

Does anyone else still check this thing?

[Nerd-o-rama]

I'm just waiting around. I guess I could use a response for the GM, Russia (who's probably long gone), or Turkey.

[nothingclever]

Well there really isn't anything to say.

[Moody the Wise]

Alright, screw it, let's all just go to war with each other, then. We can resolve that ourselves. =)

Except that I'm woefully unprepared to fight an aggressive war.

[viggo]

i'm waiting for a resolution of the proposed peace agreement with greece before i make my turn 3 moves.

[Wizard of the Coat]

((been quite ill half of the week...really busy catching up for most of the rest. Will get a full post in tomorrow))

[kentma57]

i'm waiting for a resolution of the proposed peace agreement with greece before i make my turn 3 moves.

What was the agreement again?

[Zid]

Russia 5:5
South Africa 2:2
Iceland 1:1
Norway 1:1
USA 5:5

NEU: 3:3 (Subject to GM fiat!) <=IT this OK Wizard?


Upkeep: -16

Wealth +18

Army: 5 + 0 = 5
Navy: 8 + 0 = 8
Airforce: 7 + 0 = 7

Space: 13 + 1 = 14
Pop: 2,2 + 0,22= 2,42
Economy: 13 + 7 = 20
Resouces: 4 + 0= 4
Spy: 5 +0 =5

Tech:10 +0 =10
Civil: 9 + 0 = 9
Nuclear: 3 +0 = 3
Defences:3 + 3= 3

Economic reserve: 1
1 die battlestation

Spending:

Economy
Space building Battlestation:
Space expansion
Reserves



Prospect moon for one space point.

Tech: Enhanced fossile fuels COMPLETED

Primary: Basic nuclear fusion 18/100 (+18) =36/100

Secondary: 9 in synth foods


UNREST + CORRUPTION: 8 (-9 from civil stat)

Tertiary: 2/50

Not finished

[viggo]

come back wizcoat :(

[kentma57]

What Is Happening????