Shatter a one shot.

[Skyserpent]

A Friend of mine is planning a one-shot, he has essentially challenged me to roll a Wizard and try and break it. This is interesting, as a level 5 wizard isn't exactly the most easily optimized thing in the world.

Level 5, standard WBL. Wizard.

How would YOU guys go about trying to make a game-breaking batman at a level significantly before their true cheese comes into play?

[Sstoopidtallkid]

3 AoE save-or-X spells, a spell that will keep you safe from attacks, and at least one single target no-save spell. And pick up a crossbow.

[Chosen_of_Vecna]

Wizard 5

lvl 1
Ray of Enfeeblement
Ray of Clumsiness
lvl 2
Ray of Stupidity
Glitterdust
Web
lvl 3
Vertigo Field
Stinking Cloud

Assuming you have party members, every fight should consist of you throwing out one of your AoE spells to disable half the enemies. Occasionally (single target enemies or real toughies with Henchies) you might break out the Rays of insta disable.

[nobodylovesyou4]

also, take the feat collegiate wizard. gives you 4 spells at every level rather than 2.

[JungeonJeff]

Wizard 5

lvl 1
Ray of Enfeeblement
Ray of Clumsiness
lvl 2
Ray of Stupidity
Glitterdust
Web
lvl 3
Vertigo Field
Stinking Cloud

Assuming you have party members, every fight should consist of you throwing out one of your AoE spells to disable half the enemies. Occasionally (single target enemies or real toughies with Henchies) you might break out the Rays of insta disable.

And since you are not really interested in Metamagic'ing those spells at you current lvl, the substitution lvl (5th) from Complete Champion, will let you spontainiously cast Divination spells, such as Analyse Portal, Circle Dance, Chain of Eyes and Balancing Lorecall (Substituting Spiderclimb).

[shadow_archmagi]

I'm unsure of the effects of Vertigo Field, but Sleet Storm is also quite nice, as it both blocks his vision of you and forces him to make a balance check. Fail and you don't get to move, fail badly and you fall over.

[Solo]

A Friend of mine is planning a one-shot, he has essentially challenged me to roll a Wizard and try and break it. This is interesting, as a level 5 wizard isn't exactly the most easily optimized thing in the world.

Level 5, standard WBL. Wizard.

How would YOU guys go about trying to make a game-breaking batman at a level significantly before their true cheese comes into play?

ECL 5 Aasimar wizard (level 4 wizard), or level 5 wizard with the Otherworldy feat from Player's Guide to Faerun or the race Lesser Aasimar to get the outsider subtype.

Cast Alter Self to turn into either a Ravid (3 HD) if you're level 4, or a Dwarven Defender, (5 HD).

The Ravid has +15 natural armor, 60 ft fly speed (perfect). The Dwarven Defender has +18 natural armor, but movement speed of 20 ft.

Cast Scintillating Scales (Spell Compendium) to turn your natural armor bonus into a deflection bonus.

You now have a massive deflection bonus to AC, on top of Mage Armor and your dexterity modifier, rendering you nearly untouchable at low levels.

You may now proceed to win at your leisure, and thank you for playing DnD.

[senrath]

ECL 5 Aasimar wizard (level 4 wizard), or level 5 wizard with the Otherworldy feat from Player's Guide to Faerun or the race Lesser Aasimar to get the outsider subtype.

Cast Alter Self to turn into either a Ravid (3 HD) if you're level 4, or a Dwarven Defender, (5 HD).

The Ravid has +15 natural armor, 60 ft fly speed (perfect). The Dwarven Defender has +18 natural armor, but movement speed of 20 ft.

Cast Scintillating Scales (Spell Compendium) to turn your natural armor bonus into a deflection bonus.

You now have a massive deflection bonus to AC, on top of Mage Armor and your dexterity modifier, rendering you nearly untouchable at low levels.

You may now proceed to win at your leisure, and thank you for playing DnD.

I thought Dwarven Defender was a prestige class...Am I missing something?

[SamTheCleric]

Solo... that's... beautiful. I want to marry it.

[RTGoodman]

I thought Dwarven Defender was a prestige class...Am I missing something?

I think he meant Dwarven Ancestor. It's a creature in... some Monster Manual (I forget which).

[Solo]

I thought Dwarven Defender was a prestige class...Am I missing something?

Sory, typo.

Dwarven Ancestor.

Google it, Wizards has an excerpt of it online.

[senrath]

Ah, that makes more sense. Yes, that would work.

[streakster]

I was going to suggest a focused specialist or some such thing, but ... wow. Solo, that is genius.

[Chronos]

Mind your durations, though... At level 4 or 5, those spells won't even last an hour, so it's not implausible that each casting will only be good for one fight. And using two of your high-level spells to beat an encounter (and at CL 4 or 5, those are high-level spells) is inferior to using a single spell to beat an encounter.

[kme]

I would also recommend focused specialist (conjurer or transmuter). You will still be able to pull of alter self cheese, but it would probably be better to take some other spells. Alter self will only boost you (and familiar :smallbiggrin: ), so your allies may still die and you still have to kill the monsters.

[Chronicled]

A metamagic rod of Extend Spell is a very good idea if using Solo's method.

[elliott20]

damn solo. and here I was thinking someone was just gonna say "punpun" and be done with it.

[Solo]

Mind your durations, though... At level 4 or 5, those spells won't even last an hour, so it's not implausible that each casting will only be good for one fight. And using two of your high-level spells to beat an encounter (and at CL 4 or 5, those are high-level spells) is inferior to using a single spell to beat an encounter.

There's no need to waste spell slots. This is why scrolls exist.

Besides, style counts for points.

You can't beat turning into a dwarf and doing the MC Hammer shuffle around your enemies, singing "Can't touch this"

[ColdBrew]

*sigh* Pun-Pun...

[Solo]

Well, there's also campaign smashing....

[Ganurath]

There's no need to waste spell slots. This is why scrolls exist.

Besides, style counts for points.

You can't beat turning into a dwarf and doing the MC Hammer shuffle around your enemies, singing "Can't touch this"Fireball trap.

[MammonAzrael]

Shivering Touch is always a fun one too, though it is a touch attack. (I still want to play a Duskblade that knows it)

[Solo]

Shivering Touch is always a fun one too, though it is a touch attack.

ST is too high a level for a level 5 wizard, though, isn't it?

[Hadrian_Emrys]

I think the lesser version isn't at least.

[MammonAzrael]

Page 104 of Frostburn. Lesser Shivering Touch is a level 1 spell, and Shivering Touch is a 3rd level spell. and unless my allergies are screwing me up more than I though, 5th level wizards can cast 3rd level spells.

[Draz74]

ST is too high a level for a level 5 wizard, though, isn't it?

Nope, that's a key part of its infamous brokenness. Level 3.

You're probably thinking of Maximized Shivering Touch, which is what people talk about more. Which, of course, takes a Level 6 slot.

[ColdBrew]

Sudden Maximize: When you absolutely need to paralyze something, once a day.

[Solo]

Page 104 of Frostburn. Lesser Shivering Touch is a level 1 spell, and Shivering Touch is a 3rd level spell. and unless my allergies are screwing me up more than I though, 5th level wizards can cast 3rd level spells.

Oh right. I though it was level 4.

Now, the only problem is you ahve to get close enough to touch the target, which could be a problem since you are a wizards and are squishy.

Oh right, +18 deflection bonus to AC.

Never mind, you're good to go.

[Animefunkmaster]

Quick low level combo:

This one is good.
Bracers of eldritch entanglement (MIC)+ Magic missile= group entangle with no save. Add in grease and other movement decreases and you can be very potent.

There is an amulet in mic that is empower for a first level spell a # times per day (I think three), add that to a shocking grasp and then it gets interesting. Add some other metamagic as you see fit.