Of halflings and sizes

[LM TR]

is Belkar REALLY tall for a halfling or is EVERYONE else pretty small for a human/elf...? (cause he´s guesstimatedly at least more than 1 foot taller than he should be with a perfect roll, considering 3.5 rules)
I´d really like to know if Rich ever commented on this matter...

[FujinAkari]

I´d really like to know if Rich ever commented on this matter...

He did. Rich does not draw small creatures as small due to it looking ridiculous in scale. All small creatures are drawn just BARELY shorter than medium creatures, and small creatures are very rarely included for this reason.

Note that Rich made Goblins BE medium for this purpose.

[Page606]

Also, Belkar is still shorter than Solt Lorkyurg.

[Spiryt]

I don't see the point. Belkar is almost two times shorter than humans, and remember about proportions in OotS (their big heads). Everything is in order (heh).

[Phase]

I agree, I don't see how belkar is smaller than normal. Halflings are desribed as being like children, and Belkar is just as tall if not shorter than Eric...

[Jayngfet]

is Belkar REALLY tall for a halfling or is EVERYONE else pretty small for a human/elf...? (cause he´s guesstimatedly at least more than 1 foot taller than he should be with a perfect roll, considering 3.5 rules)
I´d really like to know if Rich ever commented on this matter...



*glances over 3.5 rules* I dont see any hairfoots in there, you sure he's not half dwarf or something?

[Tempest Fennac]

Belkar claimed he is 3'2" after Miko killed Shojo. I never thought he looked out of proportion if I'm honest (excluding his head being a bit too big for his body).

[LM TR]

He did. Rich does not draw small creatures as small due to it looking ridiculous in scale. All small creatures are drawn just BARELY shorter than medium creatures, and small creatures are very rarely included for this reason.

Note that Rich made Goblins BE medium for this purpose.

that pretty much proves my point: the proportions aren´t matching

so I´m not a math wizard but I measured the models and when Roy is e.g. assumed to be 5'12" (182 cm) Belkar turns out to be 3'10" (118 cm), which is 6 inches too much

I have read something about halflings being taller in 2nd edition, is that true?

so what I want to actually know is: is 5'12" a good guess for Roy or not? (cause I´m doing a comic using the same style and based the size of my characters directly on Roy)

[Arkenputtyknife]

5'12"
As distinct from 6', presumably.

[NerfTW]

In case you haven't noticed, Rich uses a copy and paste method for the characters. There are only two body sizes. (not counting the rarely used Ogre/giant body) Any further differences are from stuff like hair that is stuck on top of their identical heads.

Making Belkar any shorter would reduce the detail, and make it harder to fit him in frame. (Look at actors with major height differences. They have to stand on boxes in some scenes to keep from messing up the shot)


It's just artistic license for the sake of the comic.

[LM TR]

In case you haven't noticed, Rich uses a copy and paste method for the characters. There are only two body sizes. (not counting the rarely used Ogre/giant body) Any further differences are from stuff like hair that is stuck on top of their identical heads.

Making Belkar any shorter would reduce the detail, and make it harder to fit him in frame. (Look at actors with major height differences. They have to stand on boxes in some scenes to keep from messing up the shot)


It's just artistic license for the sake of the comic.

like I said, I use the same style, and scaling down a medium sized model into a small sized one isn´t a problem at all, even if I can´t draw as shiny as Rich does
let´s assume his height is OK, but he should not be as broad as the other characters then

I do see that it makes sense to draw Belkar the way he is drawn though...

PS: and I´m not supposed to know how the inch and foot malsystem works, I´m European :smallamused:

[Querzis]

Look at Belkar body and forget his head a moment. No, Belkar is not too tall for an halfling (though 3,2 is a little bit taller then most halfling). Its just that all the heads in OOTS have exactly the same size because otherwise its too hard to see or interpret some expression. If Rich would draw Belkar even smaller then he is right now, he still woudnt change his head. Belkar body is already way too short, his head is as big as the rest of his body. If you make the rest of his body even smaller as you seems to suggest, it just become totally ridiculous.

[LM TR]

you´re wrong
Belkar´s head IS (slightly) smaller than a medium sized one (I´m talking about the early strips, don´t know if Rich ever changed anything size-wize)
so if he would draw him smaller, he would use a regular-sized head and shrink it with the rest of the body (look at the halfling picture in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting and you know what I mean)
halflings aren´t supposed to look like midget humans after all, are they?
human children don´t have grown-up sized heads either

but back to the important question:
Roy: how tall?

[Querzis]

you´re wrong
Belkar´s head IS (slightly) smaller than a medium sized one (I´m talking about the early strips, don´t know if Rich ever changed anything size-wize)

...What are you talking about?

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootscast.html

I fail to see any difference whatsoever between everyone else head and Belkar head...well except of course that Belkar doesnt have much hairs.

I'm pretty damn sure its just a perception things since Belkar is overall smaller. Or you said that just because you felt like arguing. Because honestly, since Roy size seems to be the important question now, I really dont know where you are going with this.

[LM TR]

I´ve just tried it again and now they are the same
I have to apologize, don´t know what I screwed up in the first try:smallconfused: