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Deth Muncher
2008-04-06, 03:58 PM
For those of you who know not what I refer to, http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57301 is what I mean. Now, my question, is that concievable, could one use Polymorph to turn into the PPDC?

Studoku
2008-04-06, 04:03 PM
The new form may be of the same type as the subject or any of the following types: aberration, animal, dragon, fey, giant, humanoid, magical beast, monstrous humanoid, ooze, plant, or vermin. The assumed form can’t have more Hit Dice than your caster level (or the subject’s HD, whichever is lower), to a maximum of 15 HD at 15th level.
The PPDC has more than 15 HD and is aquatic augmented and extraplanar so no.

Dode
2008-04-06, 04:08 PM
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Deth Muncher
2008-04-06, 04:08 PM
The PPDC has more than 15 HD and is aquatic augmented and extraplanar so no.



Oh, well, that's good then. If people could Polymorph into PPDCs...or worse, that Demigod version...::shudder::

PirateMonk
2008-04-06, 04:20 PM
Oh, well, that's good then. If people could Polymorph into PPDCs...or worse, that Demigod version...::shudder::

There's still Shapechange, though, which allows Outsiders and up to 25 HD.

Deth Muncher
2008-04-06, 04:21 PM
Oh good lord! You can Shapechange into the PPDC? Do you get all if it's niftiness?

CthulhuM
2008-04-06, 05:06 PM
You can shapechange into a beholder and get 10 eye rays a round as a free action... so sure, why not?

EDIT: Actually, you still can't shapechange into templated creatures. Or unique creatures. So no, the PPDC is still out.

Collin152
2008-04-06, 05:22 PM
I feel compelled to say that equation is innacurate.
It should go Polymorph -> PPDC, else it refers to casting Polymorph on the beastie.

seedjar
2008-04-06, 09:42 PM
I didn't know addition was defined on verbs and noun phrases. And lo! The range of this operation is interjections!
~Joe

Collin152
2008-04-06, 09:50 PM
I didn't know addition was defined on verbs and noun phrases. And lo! The range of this operation is interjections!
~Joe

There's an 89.789% chance that this distinction only exists in my head.

Indon
2008-04-07, 02:33 PM
EDIT: Actually, you still can't shapechange into templated creatures. Or unique creatures. So no, the PPDC is still out.

This is what I would have posted.

Chosen_of_Vecna
2008-04-07, 04:00 PM
Exactly. Since the only Limit is HD, if you could do templated creatures it would be ridiculous.

And since all the PPDC is is a set of templates applied to that darn crab (that are equally as ridiculous applied to any creature) all the power is in the templates. That and Divine Ranks, because honestly, without Divine Rank 0 The PPDC would be a CR 32 challenge that can be beaten by a level 15 Wizard everytime.

ColdBrew
2008-04-07, 04:38 PM
Ahem. You could try making an effigy of it. Templated effigies (more accurately, effigies of templated creatures) is a CO cheese staple.