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Alex Warlorn
2008-04-07, 05:02 AM
After comic 546, Redcloak is going to be more wrathful than ever. He's just been firmly contradicted in an discussion of REASON with his own argument by a HUMAN, worse, a PALADIN, a member of the GUARD to be the capper! And reason is the very last thing that Redcloak thinks Paladins have! The idea that a paladin could be more rational than him is intolerable for Redcloak. Paladins are less than robots to Redcloak, the idea that one could actually think something out clearer than him outside of their programmed instructions is a direction contradiction to his argument against the Paladin class. And sacred creed of the Evil alingment, someone contradicts you, remove the someone!

On promises, in retrospect, it's fairly easy to understand, while Redcloak is fighting for the greater good of his race as he sees it, he's contradictively trying to follow his Evil Alingment as blindly as Miko did her Good Alingment (the two should have dated). And Promises to Lawful Neutral and Lawful Good alingments are something sacred, even if you realize you made a mistake by MAKING that promise before, you don't just ditch that promise and pretend you didn't make it.

While for Lawful Evil this mentality can exist, it's much more common for promises to be abused by their wording.

So for Redcloak to see someone willing to follow a silly promise no matter what, because "a promise is a -promise-" is completely irrational to him. More than that, incomprehensable.

And here's the REALITY of it:

Redcloak could TELL O-chul was lying about the finer details of the illusion gate. YET at the same time, he can't accept or won accept that O-Chul WASN'T lying when he said before he had no clue about the details of the two gates.

Forget becoming like Xykon, Redcloak is growing into his own brand of evil with a capital E.

lonewolf23k
2008-04-07, 05:45 AM
Yeah, Redcloak's hatred of Paladins is starting to cloud his judgement a bit.

Gamerlord
2008-04-07, 07:50 AM
Yeah, Redcloak's hatred of Paladins is starting to cloud his judgement a bit.
yeah well redcloacks a ginues and paladins stink
but a redclock-miko relashonship? i see it ending like this:
:miko: : DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! !

Helanna
2008-04-07, 08:08 AM
(the two should have dated).

I would have paid to see THAT happen! An Evil goblin who hates humans with a Good human who hates evil, both of whom are slightly unhinged. Or more than slightly.

Morty
2008-04-07, 08:14 AM
In Redcloak's defense, Soon's oath indeed was stupid, counterproductive and potentially disastrous.

Theodoriph
2008-04-07, 10:47 AM
I think you're looking too much into it.

Like anyone, Redcloak doesn't want to admit he's wrong so easily...after all he's put a lot of time and effort into getting this information, and admitting he's wrong would be admitting he's wasted all that time and effort. So he's going to keep pressing forward.

It's like a sunk cost project in real life, where you have a budget for the project...but then it exceeds its budget, so you throw more money at it because you've already spent so much. Then it exceeds that and wants more...so you throw more money at it because you've already spent so much etc. I mean really...you should just scrap the thing...but that rarely happens.

Alex Warlorn
2008-04-07, 10:48 AM
Ironically though. It's now serving a grand purpose.
Redcloak is totally fixated on extracting information from O-Chul he just doesn't have. And has wasted a grand amount of time and resources in chasing mirages.

The Wanderer
2008-04-07, 12:17 PM
Redcloak is totally fixated on extracting information from O-Chul he just doesn't have. And has wasted a grand amount of time and resources in chasing mirages.

Which is, to a degree, the story of Redcloak's life. When others get their plans shot to hell, find that life gives them a bad hand, or whatever, they get up and try something new, move onto something else.

Redcloak can't and won't. He has to keep going just to show that whatever lumps he has endured happened for a reason, and then he keeps going to show he was right to persevere and good things will eventually come of it, until finally he finds himself at the point where he keeps doing something without being able to say why... it's just what he was doing before. And still, in his mind there is the association that if he keeps at it long enough, good things will eventually come and he'll get to the goal he had in mind.

Calinero
2008-04-07, 09:37 PM
He did more than throw good money into this plan. He threw his brother. To admit that it had all been a waste is not something that Redcloak is going to want to do in a hurry.

I dislike this capital E Evil Redcloak more than the deep, a little more ambiguous Redcloak. I like that his character wasn't as black and white as Xykon.