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Boduse
2008-04-24, 05:31 PM
I'm looking for a low level spell that will modify a will save of an opponent. are there any spells that give negative points to will saves for a duration in levels 1-3? something like a ray would be prefered. something truestrikeable. I'm a lvl6 wizard looking for a way to force thru curse of the putrid husk, or at least give it a better chance of eliminating a big threat. any suggestions?
Chosen_of_Vecna
2008-04-24, 05:35 PM
I'm looking for a low level spell that will modify a will save of an opponent. are there any spells that give negative points to will saves for a duration in levels 1-3? something like a ray would be prefered. something truestrikeable. I'm a lvl6 wizard looking for a way to force thru curse of the putrid husk, or at least give it a better chance of eliminating a big threat. any suggestions?
Um. If you can get it to fail a will save you can do between 4 and 8 Wisdom damage via the Spell Compendium Illusion spell. But that would probably not be needed if you could get them to fail a will save. Or you can try for Touch of Idiocy, but that's not a ray, it's Touch. Level one though, a Reached Touch of Idiocy is only a level 2 spell.
But yeah. That's the only thing that I can think of.
Frosty
2008-04-24, 05:37 PM
A reached Touch of Idiocy is a 3rd level spell.
Azerian Kelimon
2008-04-24, 05:40 PM
Mind fog, of course. Sorta useless, but it kills when it works.
valadil
2008-04-24, 05:45 PM
It's a little higher level than you'd like, but try Fear. They run away on a failed save, but even if they make the save they get -2 to will saves after that.
Mewtarthio
2008-04-24, 06:12 PM
Mind fog, of course. Sorta useless, but it kills when it works.
Too bad it's Will Negates.
Azerian Kelimon
2008-04-24, 06:32 PM
Which is why I added the sorta useless bit. But hey, if it works, like, say, on a tarrasque, the thing's going down on your next Will SoD.
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