Feitels
2008-05-19, 05:15 AM
A friend recently pointed me to this forum, for constructive critique.
I am creating a PC build. The DM has requested a projection upto 15th level, to see the direction the PC's in his group wish to go and to work around it.
I was wondering if the my PC build is:
1) min/maxed or super optimized, 2) good/well designed, 3 average or 4 crappy.
Below are the classes he will take (in level order):
Thalganis - Race: Elven - Ranger 1, Barbarian 1, Swashbuckler 1, Fighter 2, Wizard 1, Bladesinger 5, Spellsword 1, Edlritch Knight 3.
Everything below (unless noted) relates to my PC at 15th level (started with 32 point buy with 1st level Ranger scores in brackets).
St:18 (14), Dex;27 (18), Con:12 (12), Int: 20 (16), Wis: 8 (8), Cha:8 (8).
All three ability increase went into Dex. Rest is from magic item buffs: gloves (+6), headband (+4) and belt (+4).
Traits and Flaws (UA): Cautious and Inattentative
Saves: F:19, R:18, W:11 Only magic is +3 Cloak of Resistance. Rest all class
or race related bonuses. No specific bonus are factored in such as for Raging ect
Feats: Exotic Wpn Elven Thinblade, Wpn Focus Thinblade, Combat Casting, Combat Exp, Imp Combat Exp, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Power Attack,
Improved Critical.
Movement; 40 x 4, Boots of Speed (when activated) 70 x4.
Base Melee 18/13/8
Range 22/17/12
With melee weapon of choice: +4 Adamantine Eleven Thinblade: 27/22/17 Dam 1d8+8 Crit 15-20 x 2
With range weapon of choice: +2 Comp Long (Mighty +2): 24/19/14
Dam 1d8 +4 Crit 20 x 3
The characters main strength is how difficult it is to hit him (he is cautious after all!):
Total AC 31: +4 padded leafweave amour (+5), +2 Ring protection (+2), Dex 26 (+8), Bladesinger - Bladesong Style (+5), Dodge (House Rule - applies all attackers) (+1).
Fighting defensive AC goes to 34: +2 fight defensive, +1 5 ranks Tumble, +1 Cautious trait.
Fighting full defensive (never use it, see why bellow under PC tactics) AC goes to 37: +4 fight defensive, +1 5 ranks Tumble, +1 Cautious trait.
Then Combat Exp and Improved can also stack with Fighting Defensively.
His potential AC is a whopping AC 48. This before haste (boots of speed) +1 AC bonus or any other spell magic spells such as Shield or Haste (save boots) kick in.
Even at AC 45 he is still at 13/8/3 to hit with Elven thinblade.
If Hasted (either boots or casting) and Heroism its AC 46 at 16/11/6.
As a caster of magic he has spells per day as a 7th level caster:
Wizard 1, Bladesinger +3, Spellsword +1, Eldritch Knight +2.
His Int of 20 gives him a final score of 4, 6, 4, 3, 2.
While I know he is far more fighter than mage, spells like Heroism, Mirror Image, Blur, Expeditious Retreat (save boots), Shield, Fire Shield, Ray of Enfeeblement even True Strike combine with Spring attack can make him effective. He can even Rage if he needs too.
Please provide your thoughts on this build.
I would really appreciate constructive feedback as PC building is by no means a strength of mine and infact its my first real attempt. Please note as a caveat to all this that I am in it for the roleplaying. This PC really appeals to me. However as a party member he needs to pull his weight.
There are only 4 other players. A Human Paladin (Heronious), Dwarven Cleric War Good (Clandigan Silverbeard), Human Fighter (Heronious), a Human Sorcerer and Elven Ranger (my PC). All are playing Lawful Good.
I am creating a PC build. The DM has requested a projection upto 15th level, to see the direction the PC's in his group wish to go and to work around it.
I was wondering if the my PC build is:
1) min/maxed or super optimized, 2) good/well designed, 3 average or 4 crappy.
Below are the classes he will take (in level order):
Thalganis - Race: Elven - Ranger 1, Barbarian 1, Swashbuckler 1, Fighter 2, Wizard 1, Bladesinger 5, Spellsword 1, Edlritch Knight 3.
Everything below (unless noted) relates to my PC at 15th level (started with 32 point buy with 1st level Ranger scores in brackets).
St:18 (14), Dex;27 (18), Con:12 (12), Int: 20 (16), Wis: 8 (8), Cha:8 (8).
All three ability increase went into Dex. Rest is from magic item buffs: gloves (+6), headband (+4) and belt (+4).
Traits and Flaws (UA): Cautious and Inattentative
Saves: F:19, R:18, W:11 Only magic is +3 Cloak of Resistance. Rest all class
or race related bonuses. No specific bonus are factored in such as for Raging ect
Feats: Exotic Wpn Elven Thinblade, Wpn Focus Thinblade, Combat Casting, Combat Exp, Imp Combat Exp, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Power Attack,
Improved Critical.
Movement; 40 x 4, Boots of Speed (when activated) 70 x4.
Base Melee 18/13/8
Range 22/17/12
With melee weapon of choice: +4 Adamantine Eleven Thinblade: 27/22/17 Dam 1d8+8 Crit 15-20 x 2
With range weapon of choice: +2 Comp Long (Mighty +2): 24/19/14
Dam 1d8 +4 Crit 20 x 3
The characters main strength is how difficult it is to hit him (he is cautious after all!):
Total AC 31: +4 padded leafweave amour (+5), +2 Ring protection (+2), Dex 26 (+8), Bladesinger - Bladesong Style (+5), Dodge (House Rule - applies all attackers) (+1).
Fighting defensive AC goes to 34: +2 fight defensive, +1 5 ranks Tumble, +1 Cautious trait.
Fighting full defensive (never use it, see why bellow under PC tactics) AC goes to 37: +4 fight defensive, +1 5 ranks Tumble, +1 Cautious trait.
Then Combat Exp and Improved can also stack with Fighting Defensively.
His potential AC is a whopping AC 48. This before haste (boots of speed) +1 AC bonus or any other spell magic spells such as Shield or Haste (save boots) kick in.
Even at AC 45 he is still at 13/8/3 to hit with Elven thinblade.
If Hasted (either boots or casting) and Heroism its AC 46 at 16/11/6.
As a caster of magic he has spells per day as a 7th level caster:
Wizard 1, Bladesinger +3, Spellsword +1, Eldritch Knight +2.
His Int of 20 gives him a final score of 4, 6, 4, 3, 2.
While I know he is far more fighter than mage, spells like Heroism, Mirror Image, Blur, Expeditious Retreat (save boots), Shield, Fire Shield, Ray of Enfeeblement even True Strike combine with Spring attack can make him effective. He can even Rage if he needs too.
Please provide your thoughts on this build.
I would really appreciate constructive feedback as PC building is by no means a strength of mine and infact its my first real attempt. Please note as a caveat to all this that I am in it for the roleplaying. This PC really appeals to me. However as a party member he needs to pull his weight.
There are only 4 other players. A Human Paladin (Heronious), Dwarven Cleric War Good (Clandigan Silverbeard), Human Fighter (Heronious), a Human Sorcerer and Elven Ranger (my PC). All are playing Lawful Good.