AugustNights
2008-05-19, 04:21 PM
Dramatic Saves: (Saving Throw Variant.)
When making a saving throw versus a spell, spell-like ability or other effect, there are more results than Success and Failure.
The five possible out-comes of a Saving throw are:
Save, Save Minor, Half-way, Fail Minor, and Major Fail.
Save: 'Ya missed me by a mile!' If one succeeds on a saving throw by 5 or more one ignores all effects, as if you one succeeded on a saving throw, normally.
Save, Minor: 'I'm...erg...stronger than that!' If one succeeds on the saving throw by 1 to 4, on has only barely staved off the effect. The effect takes place, but only mildly. These mild negative effects take place for 1d6 rounds, (i.e. loose some dex if turned to stone, or such, armor is useless after rusting, negative to rolls for enervation. If the effect was pure damage, equipment or clothing or even hair is slightly damaged.) These Mild negative effects are up to the DM, and should be no greater than 4 or less points worth of penalty. (I.e. 1d4 dex lost, cloths take 1d4 damage from fire, etc.) However, flavor effects are permanent. (I.e. Ranger Gill saved, minor, on his fort save vs. the Cockatrice's Petrification. He now has a gray complexion, and gravely skin until healed by a spell or such.) One may be hit by the spell or ability again, (even if the spell/ability specifically says that one cannot be effected by it after the save has been succeeded against.) for the next 1d6 rounds. If the ability states that once one makes their save, one cannot be affected by it, one gains a +2 competence bonus vs. the effect every time one minorly save against it, but only for the 1d6 rounds that one is minorly effected.
Half-Way: 'Must...not...push...button...' If one makes a save dead on, one is half-effected by it. Minor effects are permanent, (see above.) and one can be easily affected by the same spell, again. In addition, every round one must re-roll the save, if one makes it, that round they are only minorly effected. If one fails this secondary save, for the round that they failed the save they are effected as if they had failed the save. As with a minor save, one may still be affected by abilities that specifically say that if a save is made that it cannot be redone. One takes a -2 difficult penalty to all saving throws vs. effects or spells that mimic the affect half-saved until they are cured of the minor effects. No matter how one saves, they retain the minor negative effects and the flavor.
Fail, Minor: [I]'I'm not dead yet!' If one fails by 4 or less they have minorly failed. One is effected as though they failed their saving throw, however, one may make a second saving throw on their next turn. If they fail this save, they are treated as though they failed the save entirely. If they succeed on this second throw, they are treated as Half-Way.
Failure: 'Suck it Trebek.' If one fails by 5 or more, they simply fail.
Abilities or Effects like Slippery mind will allow for a free second save, as usual.
Abilities or Effects like Mettle and Evasion, move one's failure up one level, as that a Failure becomes a minor failure, and a half-way becomes a minor success. Improved versions of these abilities move it up twice.
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New Spell: Minor Esuna
Conjuration (Healing)
Level: Clrc 1, Brd 1, Pal 1
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Target: Creature touched
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)
This spell removes the Mild negative effects that occur from Minor Failure or Half-Failure.
Some things I am having some difficulty with...
Game Balance: Will this over-throw game balance? I have no idea, but I feel it would make players fear saving throws a little more, and be a lot less dissapointing when the monsters beat your spells by one or two points.
Complication: Yes. I feel this is something more to 'eye-ball' than to RAW rule, as it were.
EDIT: Added in Jack_Smith's Suggestions for Slipper Mind/Evasion/Mettle.
EDIT: New Spell for System.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your time
~ChumpLump.
When making a saving throw versus a spell, spell-like ability or other effect, there are more results than Success and Failure.
The five possible out-comes of a Saving throw are:
Save, Save Minor, Half-way, Fail Minor, and Major Fail.
Save: 'Ya missed me by a mile!' If one succeeds on a saving throw by 5 or more one ignores all effects, as if you one succeeded on a saving throw, normally.
Save, Minor: 'I'm...erg...stronger than that!' If one succeeds on the saving throw by 1 to 4, on has only barely staved off the effect. The effect takes place, but only mildly. These mild negative effects take place for 1d6 rounds, (i.e. loose some dex if turned to stone, or such, armor is useless after rusting, negative to rolls for enervation. If the effect was pure damage, equipment or clothing or even hair is slightly damaged.) These Mild negative effects are up to the DM, and should be no greater than 4 or less points worth of penalty. (I.e. 1d4 dex lost, cloths take 1d4 damage from fire, etc.) However, flavor effects are permanent. (I.e. Ranger Gill saved, minor, on his fort save vs. the Cockatrice's Petrification. He now has a gray complexion, and gravely skin until healed by a spell or such.) One may be hit by the spell or ability again, (even if the spell/ability specifically says that one cannot be effected by it after the save has been succeeded against.) for the next 1d6 rounds. If the ability states that once one makes their save, one cannot be affected by it, one gains a +2 competence bonus vs. the effect every time one minorly save against it, but only for the 1d6 rounds that one is minorly effected.
Half-Way: 'Must...not...push...button...' If one makes a save dead on, one is half-effected by it. Minor effects are permanent, (see above.) and one can be easily affected by the same spell, again. In addition, every round one must re-roll the save, if one makes it, that round they are only minorly effected. If one fails this secondary save, for the round that they failed the save they are effected as if they had failed the save. As with a minor save, one may still be affected by abilities that specifically say that if a save is made that it cannot be redone. One takes a -2 difficult penalty to all saving throws vs. effects or spells that mimic the affect half-saved until they are cured of the minor effects. No matter how one saves, they retain the minor negative effects and the flavor.
Fail, Minor: [I]'I'm not dead yet!' If one fails by 4 or less they have minorly failed. One is effected as though they failed their saving throw, however, one may make a second saving throw on their next turn. If they fail this save, they are treated as though they failed the save entirely. If they succeed on this second throw, they are treated as Half-Way.
Failure: 'Suck it Trebek.' If one fails by 5 or more, they simply fail.
Abilities or Effects like Slippery mind will allow for a free second save, as usual.
Abilities or Effects like Mettle and Evasion, move one's failure up one level, as that a Failure becomes a minor failure, and a half-way becomes a minor success. Improved versions of these abilities move it up twice.
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New Spell: Minor Esuna
Conjuration (Healing)
Level: Clrc 1, Brd 1, Pal 1
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Target: Creature touched
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)
This spell removes the Mild negative effects that occur from Minor Failure or Half-Failure.
Some things I am having some difficulty with...
Game Balance: Will this over-throw game balance? I have no idea, but I feel it would make players fear saving throws a little more, and be a lot less dissapointing when the monsters beat your spells by one or two points.
Complication: Yes. I feel this is something more to 'eye-ball' than to RAW rule, as it were.
EDIT: Added in Jack_Smith's Suggestions for Slipper Mind/Evasion/Mettle.
EDIT: New Spell for System.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your time
~ChumpLump.