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BadJuJu
2008-06-02, 08:22 AM
Is there any way some one could post a link to the dungeon crasher or tell me the prerequisits(sp) and some class features?

Draz74
2008-06-02, 10:26 AM
Dungeoncrasher is the name of two Alternate Class Features for the Fighter. To be a Dungeoncrasher, the Fighter gives up his 2nd level feat, and possibly his 6th level feat (if he wants to upgrade the Dungeoncrasher ability to do decent damage). The rules for these alternate class features are found in Dungeonscape.

BadJuJu
2008-06-02, 11:03 AM
Dungeoncrasher is the name of two Alternate Class Features for the Fighter. To be a Dungeoncrasher, the Fighter gives up his 2nd level feat, and possibly his 6th level feat (if he wants to upgrade the Dungeoncrasher ability to do decent damage). The rules for these alternate class features are found in Dungeonscape.

Thanks alot. Ill look for them.

Talic
2008-06-02, 04:36 PM
Basically, you give up a couple feats, and get an enhanced ability to break stuff, break people, and trample through traps.

Frosty
2008-06-02, 04:40 PM
Basically, you give up a couple feats, and get an enhanced ability to break stuff, break people, and trample through traps.

I like how it's not even part of an action. You do it as a part of your attack, so you can break people multiple times a rounds.

Do you guys think Shock Trooper is broken with Dungeon Crasher?

Talic
2008-06-02, 05:25 PM
Well, the bull rush is a standard action, and thus would make it a bit difficult to do multiple times a turn without something like Shock Trooper to trigger free bull rushes.

Frosty
2008-06-02, 05:27 PM
IIRC, a bullrush is triggered for free whenever you hit someone when you have the Knockback feat. So, hit someone, knock him back into someone else, have them both fall because you get to trip them both. Then, smack them both since you tripped them thanks to Improved Trip, which lets you bullrush again for free, hopefully smashing both of them into a wall.

Gorbash
2008-06-02, 05:34 PM
Best use of it is with a Large, or powerful built creature (Goliath), and take the following feats: Knockback (free bullrush on a hit), Shock Trooper (allows a free trip attempt when you bull rush one enemy into another and lets you bull rush diagonally) and Improved Trip (for the free attack when an enemy is tripped).

Renegade Paladin
2008-06-02, 05:36 PM
Put the brutal surge property on your weapon; triggers a free bull rush on a hit, and you don't have to follow to send them the full distance. It's treated in all ways as though you made the bull rush, so Dungeon Crasher would count. :smallbiggrin:

Frosty
2008-06-02, 05:39 PM
Put the brutal surge property on your weapon; triggers a free bull rush on a hit, and you don't have to follow to send them the full distance. It's treated in all ways as though you made the bull rush, so Dungeon Crasher would count. :smallbiggrin:

No, it's not for free. It's a swift action unfortunately.

Draz74
2008-06-03, 12:40 AM
Do you guys think Shock Trooper is broken with Dungeon Crasher?

Only when you combo with (as you mentioned later) Knockback.

... though it's a kind of broken that can be rather fun. Homer the Flaming Bowling Ball of Doom is one of the more hilarious melee builds ever conceived.

Person_Man
2008-06-03, 09:36 AM
Flaming Homer the Bowling Ball of Doom!!! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4108954&postcount=22)