SamTheCleric
2008-06-12, 11:36 AM
Ok, I've slowly been reading every spell description for level 2 bard spells and stopped at enthrall and scratched my head.
Here is the SRD entry for the spell:
Enthrall
Enchantment (Charm) [Language Dependent, Mind-Affecting, Sonic]
Level: Brd 2, Clr 2
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 round
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Targets: Any number of creatures
Duration: 1 hour or less
Saving Throw: Will negates; see text
Spell Resistance: Yes
If you have the attention of a group of creatures, you can use this spell to hold them spellbound. To cast the spell, you must speak or sing without interruption for 1 full round. Thereafter, those affected give you their undivided attention, ignoring their surroundings. They are considered to have an attitude of friendly while under the effect of the spell. Any potentially affected creature of a race or religion unfriendly to yours gets a +4 bonus on the saving throw.
A creature with 4 or more HD or with a Wisdom score of 16 or higher remains aware of its surroundings and has an attitude of indifferent. It gains a new saving throw if it witnesses actions that it opposes.
The effect lasts as long as you speak or sing, to a maximum of 1 hour. Those enthralled by your words take no action while you speak or sing and for 1d3 rounds thereafter while they discuss the topic or performance. Those entering the area during the performance must also successfully save or become enthralled. The speech ends (but the 1d3-round delay still applies) if you lose concentration or do anything other than speak or sing.
If those not enthralled have unfriendly or hostile attitudes toward you, they can collectively make a Charisma check to try to end the spell by jeering and heckling. For this check, use the Charisma bonus of the creature with the highest Charisma in the group; others may make Charisma checks to assist. The heckling ends the spell if this check result beats your Charisma check result. Only one such challenge is allowed per use of the spell.
If any member of the audience is attacked or subjected to some other overtly hostile act, the spell ends and the previously enthralled members become immediately unfriendly toward you. Each creature with 4 or more HD or with a Wisdom score of 16 or higher becomes hostile.
The specific part that made me go "huh" is this:
Those enthralled by your words take no action while you speak or sing and for 1d3 rounds thereafter while they discuss the topic or performance.
1d3 rounds?! They stand around discussing the topics for 6-18 seconds? I'm lucky if I can even express my feelings about something in less than a minute! If they would've left off the "while they discuss.." business, it'd be fine. But since they quantified what the time is spent doing... it makes me utterly confused. I mean... if one hobgoblin is in the middle of a dissertation on how the performance harkened back to his boyhood where his father would play a similar tune on the pipes and it really touched him emotionally... would he stop in the middle of his speech to turn to the PC and go
"WHAT?! I HATE YOU!!!" and charge?
Anyway... I just through I'd share.
Here is the SRD entry for the spell:
Enthrall
Enchantment (Charm) [Language Dependent, Mind-Affecting, Sonic]
Level: Brd 2, Clr 2
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 round
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Targets: Any number of creatures
Duration: 1 hour or less
Saving Throw: Will negates; see text
Spell Resistance: Yes
If you have the attention of a group of creatures, you can use this spell to hold them spellbound. To cast the spell, you must speak or sing without interruption for 1 full round. Thereafter, those affected give you their undivided attention, ignoring their surroundings. They are considered to have an attitude of friendly while under the effect of the spell. Any potentially affected creature of a race or religion unfriendly to yours gets a +4 bonus on the saving throw.
A creature with 4 or more HD or with a Wisdom score of 16 or higher remains aware of its surroundings and has an attitude of indifferent. It gains a new saving throw if it witnesses actions that it opposes.
The effect lasts as long as you speak or sing, to a maximum of 1 hour. Those enthralled by your words take no action while you speak or sing and for 1d3 rounds thereafter while they discuss the topic or performance. Those entering the area during the performance must also successfully save or become enthralled. The speech ends (but the 1d3-round delay still applies) if you lose concentration or do anything other than speak or sing.
If those not enthralled have unfriendly or hostile attitudes toward you, they can collectively make a Charisma check to try to end the spell by jeering and heckling. For this check, use the Charisma bonus of the creature with the highest Charisma in the group; others may make Charisma checks to assist. The heckling ends the spell if this check result beats your Charisma check result. Only one such challenge is allowed per use of the spell.
If any member of the audience is attacked or subjected to some other overtly hostile act, the spell ends and the previously enthralled members become immediately unfriendly toward you. Each creature with 4 or more HD or with a Wisdom score of 16 or higher becomes hostile.
The specific part that made me go "huh" is this:
Those enthralled by your words take no action while you speak or sing and for 1d3 rounds thereafter while they discuss the topic or performance.
1d3 rounds?! They stand around discussing the topics for 6-18 seconds? I'm lucky if I can even express my feelings about something in less than a minute! If they would've left off the "while they discuss.." business, it'd be fine. But since they quantified what the time is spent doing... it makes me utterly confused. I mean... if one hobgoblin is in the middle of a dissertation on how the performance harkened back to his boyhood where his father would play a similar tune on the pipes and it really touched him emotionally... would he stop in the middle of his speech to turn to the PC and go
"WHAT?! I HATE YOU!!!" and charge?
Anyway... I just through I'd share.