OOTS #566 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Project_Mayhem]

Yeah, Belkar totally picked the wrong audience for that one.:smalltongue:

Great strip; the plot thickens


Edit: I have now truely earned my ninja credentials.

[BooTheHamster]

Ha. Awesome. I love Belkar's teamwork.

Great as always.

[Jonathan327]

Haha, team first.

Yay Belkster.

[Mauve Shirt]

Oh Belkar, always thinking of the team.
Too bad all of their hopes for Roy were dashed! Not that I really expected such a quick fix as the oracle.

[Yendor]

Orrie's not a cleric. There's a surprise.

Wonder if Roy gets a consultation? And will he be affected by the memory charm?

[Oregano]

HAHA, Good ol' Belkar, never change.

Roy's Yo Momma jokes were also hilarious.

[Behold_the_Void]

I like how even Roy was glaring at Belkar for that one.

[T-O-E]

As always, great comic. Let's hope we can get some answers out of the oracle.

[Edan]

So much for hoping the Oracle would resurrect Roy, although the Yo Momma Jokes were priceless.

So, is Belkar talking from personal experience here or is this a hypothetical situation.

[ref]

Yay! It updated while I was here!

And that Belkar, always stealing the strip. Belkar is Scrappy.

[Blaznak]

...and the "trudgery" continues. At least its fun!

[Frictional]

So... but, if they'd need to earn the money for the resurrect, won't they also need to earn the money for their questions?

Or are we just assuming they have a little money and can afford questions.

[Aerysil]

Hmm, maybe Belkar is Chaotic Neutral after all.

[RTGoodman]

I demand answers! I've got at least 5 friends turning 18 or 21 in the next three or so months, and we all need our arms, too!

[Grey Watcher]

So... but, if they'd need to earn the money for the resurrect, won't they also need to earn the money for their questions?

Or are we just assuming they have a little money and can afford questions.

Maybe the Oracle is on a Pay What You Can system. Meaning he'd rather have too little money up front than wait for them to go get more. Plus, I doubt they'd be able to earn any money, so they'd leave the Valley, forget everything (since they didn't ask any questions to remember the answers to), and go off without paying the Oracle a copper piece.

[chiasaur11]

Huh. The people who said he wasn't a Cleric were right. And Belkar has an unexpected, but very useful (to him) question.


Also: 3 updates this week! YAY!

[nimby]

He's an oracle. They can say they'll pay up later and he'll check if they're good for it, -then- give them answers.

Whether the answers are correct will depend on them actually coming back to pay him later.

[hajo]

Too bad all of their hopes for Roy were dashed!
Hey, Julia deserves some action and spotlight, too !

[Lira]

I didn't know Roy was the type to tell "yo mamma" jokes. Still, very funny. :smallbiggrin:

[SteveMB]

He's an oracle. They can say they'll pay up later and he'll check if they're good for it, -then- give them answers.

He already rejected (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0330.html) that approach.

[B.I.T.T.]

Wow, sound logic coming from Belkar, and Yo Momma jokes coming from Roy. The world has gone mad. MAD!

What do you guys want to be that the oracle actually could hear Roy, but was ignoring him because ghosts don't have money?

[Gamerlord]

I don't see whats so funny and roys yo mama jokes are lame but nice to see Belkar has at least ONE fear.

[Raging Gene Ray]

What do you guys want to be that the oracle actually could hear Roy, but was ignoring him because ghosts don't have money?

...and just as Roy starts to leave, he notifies him of that by zinging Roy with a Yo Mama joke of his own.

[Lycar]

Hehe.... that one was definitly worth staying up late.

Movement rate: Hell, no! Priceless ! :smallbiggrin:

And do we even want to know about kobold dust ? :smallamused:

Lycar

[The Gremlin]

Huh. So it stands to reason that if my prediction comes true (Xykon and Redcloak come to the Oracle and either refuse to pay or try to cheat and have each of their soldiers ask a question, and the Oracle refuses to help them and teleports away with his cleric magic)was incorrect. If the first half was right, the poor Oracle's a goner. :smallfrown:

[gamerboy6000]

I wonder if he'll tell them that V tried to contact them.

[Atomsized]

Heheh, Belkar is Belkar

Nice comic Giant :smallwink:

[Red XIV]

Does the Test of Heart undead guy (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0328.html) count as a cleric?

[Tykus]

Yay! I get a post within the 1st 50!

I didn't know Roy was into those jokes either. And I loved the Beowulf movie reference.

[Mc. Lovin']

So they'll forget that the thing cant res him? They're gonna be visiting the oracle over and over and over again ...

[SteveMB]

The world has gone mad. MAD!

Hey, I told you that publishing Vaarsuvius' secrets on the Net was a bad idea, but did you listen? Noooo.... :smallwink:

[David Argall]

What do you guys want to be that the oracle actually could hear Roy, but was ignoring him because ghosts don't have money?
That would be my preference, but he seems to be doing a really good job of ignoring Roy. He ought to be able to "see" Roy one way or another. Note his ability to "hear" what Haley was saying. So he can look at this volume when it gets collected and see Roy. I can think of a number of good gags that way, and right now the Oracle jokes seems to be running a bit thin.



So... but, if they'd need to earn the money for the resurrect, won't they also need to earn the money for their questions?

Or are we just assuming they have a little money and can afford questions.

The pictured sacks of goodies suggest the cost of a question is less than a Ressurection spell, so they could have the needed riches. Still... The agony of having to pay an alternate way has definite plot potential. I think they will need to.

[HOLEkevin]

You see? Belkar's heart really IS in the right place.

[ref]

Yay! It updated while I was here!

And that Belkar, always stealing the strip. Belkar is Scrappy.

[dogmac]

Aww, that Belkar. Always thinking of others.

[disorder]

Aww, that Belkar. Always thinking of others.
Hey, he is.

(He's thinking of groping others, but technically, this still counts.)

[rosebud]

I was still hoping Mr. Scruffy would get a question in. :smallsmile:

[The Extinguisher]

Wow, sound logic coming from Belkar, and Yo Momma jokes coming from Roy. The world has gone mad. MAD!

What do you guys want to be that the oracle actually could hear Roy, but was ignoring him because ghosts don't have money?

I had that excat same thought.

...Get out of my head :smalleek:

[MyrddinDerwydd]

He he, I hope that he tells them all of the ways that they *could* have contacted V and D, if only they had realized it... Hayley's face when she finds out about the tasty tropical feathered morsels would be priceless....

[dish]

Have to confess the urge to shout, 'Oh get on with it then!' at the screen today.

Is there such a thing as kobold dust?

[CarpeGuitarrem]

I liked this one. I didn't think the Oracle would be able to raise Roy. That just seemed really fishy to me. Too easy. From here...it'll be interesting to see what happens.

I LOL'd at the "Yo mama" jokes.

[SteveMB]

Is there such a thing as kobold dust?

Yes, but it's indistinguishable (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0186.html) from dragon dust, human dust, halfling dust, or dwarf dust.

[Szilard]

Loved the Yo Momma jokes.:smallbiggrin:

[JohnnyPsycho]

HA! I just knew it wasn't going to be as easy and just dragging Roy's mouldering bones to the oracle. Where would be the fun in that, amiright?

The "kobold dust" comment gave me a chuckle personally due to my own experiences with "pixie dust" in my old Hackmaster campaign... we had a Pixie-Fairie Mage in the party who explained to us that pixie-fairies don't poop or sweat like most beings, being fae, so "pixie-dust" was basically pixie excrement and skin flakes. That made it more disturbing when she explained that, besides the magical properties, pixie-dust was often pressed into coins and used as currency in Pixie-Fairie society. How much of that her player got from the Hackmaster Pixie-Fairie guide and how much she was making up didn't matter, we were all pretty grossed-out/amused.

If kobolds excreted their wastes in the same way... :smallyuk:

[dragongirl13]

LOL XD

What's with all the "yo mama" jokes? Those are really rude! I hear those all the time at school!

Heh, love the Beowulf reference.

I hope I get to see the look on Haley's face when she gets told she shot the birds that V had enchanted to carry a message to her and ate one.

[Tar Palantir]

I can see the joke already: "Guess what, redhead, you actually shot the messenger!"

Not a bad comic, anything with Belkar in good form is alright in my book.

[LordSintax]

heh. Beowulf. wonder how many people on here GOT that reference. i mean we ARE internet AND d&d geeks, but still.

and again, Belkar cuts through the crap and gets answers so the questions we REALLY want to know.:smallamused:


also,:roy: "yo mama so fat , her speed is listed as "hell, no"

that made me laugh

[Zolem]

Yay! I get a post within the 1st 50!

I didn't know Roy was into those jokes either. And I loved the Beowulf movie reference.

They made Beowulf into a movie?!How do you turn a poem into a movie? Do they all speak in weird prose?

Anyway, 'kobold dust' is asarcastic response like 'pixie dust', basicly 'I ain't telling, so I'm naming a nonsece ingrediant'. My group has a joke like that, talking about 'Adam's Mercey', since Adam is merciless and terrifies Balor (natural 20 on intimidate while wearing a Freight Mask, a homebrew item that gives +10 on Intimidate checks). He is a Laweful Neutral monk, and he has the second highest kill count in the party. The highest goes to our wizard/necromancer. ANyway, when we say it requires 'Adam's MErcy', we mean 'we won't explain, it doesn't need explaining, it just works stop questioning it'. It's bassicly our 'I didn't design the mechanic, jsut accpt it works' que.

[Zorn]

So they'll forget that the thing cant res him? They're gonna be visiting the oracle over and over and over again ...

Unless they ask something along the lines of what Haley and/or Celia suggested. If they know the way to the nearest high-level cleric, for example, and that doesn't point them back where they came from they should be able to deduce that the Oracle is incapable of resurrecting Roy. A few several trips there and back might make a funny strip or two though.


So... but, if they'd need to earn the money for the resurrect, won't they also need to earn the money for their questions?

Or are we just assuming they have a little money and can afford questions.

I'm hoping that their source of money involves Goblin Dan and a subsequent "flash-forward" with him saying something like: "...and THAT'S the story of how I lost my first million gold pieces (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0326.html)."

[Mordokai]

"Yo momma's so fat, she can't even see her own feats!"

The puns, the puns! They hurt me brain! :smalleek:

[PaladinFreak]

Well, I liked it a lot.

Belkar, you sick sick bastard.

[Blanth]

He already rejected (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0330.html) that approach.

Perhaps the Oracle was only looking so far in advance into the future. Perhaps now that they have allied with the royals of Azure City they would be able to pay later, being this a recent change the Oracle has not yet looked in advance again to see their fiscal change!

[David Argall]

For those hoping for some violence from Belkar, note that the Oracle says "Aren't I lucky? No, no, I am not." Of course, this is consistent with his limited desire to have customers at all, but it might be because of these particular customers since Belkar will attack him.

[Wikkin]

Bet the oracle just so happens to have some need that they can fulfill in exchange for some answers, assuming they don't have the coins to pay for answers now.

[TheGreatJabu]

Hahaha! "...her speed is listed as 'Heeell, no!'" That is freakin' priceless.

[Yendor]

What happened to Solt's spices? Maybe they could sell them to Goblin Dan.

And maybe Tiamat can bring Roy to the Oracle's attention.

[factotum]

we had a Pixie-Fairie Mage in the party who explained to us that pixie-fairies don't poop or sweat like most beings, being fae, so "pixie-dust" was basically pixie excrement and skin flakes.

Sounds like she might have lifted that idea from The River of Dancing Gods books by Jack L. Chalker--they had the idea that pixie dust was basically pixie poop too!

[Sebastian]

Great one today, I literally LOL'ed at Belkar punchline.:smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin:

[Niknokitueu]

Hehe.

Loved this one, but spotted a slight funny.

Last time they were here, the Oracle read haley's speech by looking at the translation in the later-to-be-released books #330, panel 4 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0330.html)

So he can actually hear and see Roy, just by looking forwards and seeing the book release of this meeting.

I wonder if he will peek?


Yo mamma's so fat she affects the space-time continuum... :smallbiggrin:

Have Fun!
Niknokitueu

[recentlyafish]

Belkar has red hair, I never noticed.

[Holammer]

Never imagined "Grendles modor" being hot... But for a Kobold, quite possible. Needless to say that joke made my day.

[Avilan the Grey]

Never imagined "Grendles modor" being hot... But for a Kobold, quite possible. Needless to say that joke made my day.

A naked Angelina Jolie isn't hot?


...oh you mean the story that was based on the movie, right? The one where they changed her character to be just as horrible-looking as her son? :smallwink:

[Holammer]

A naked Angelina Jolie isn't hot?


...oh you mean the story that was based on the movie, right? The one where they changed her character to be just as horrible-looking as her son? :smallwink:

Just WHAT Grendel's mother is a source of debate, check wiki article on the subject for more info.

... the "story", aw c'mon this is epic poetry! :smalltongue:

[banjo1985]

Very nice strip, turns out the oracle can't revive people....kind of figures!

Time to take Roy somewhere else, either that or stop eating V's messenger birds. :smallbiggrin:

[Eran of Arcadia]

...oh you mean the story that was based on the movie, right? The one where they changed her character to be just as horrible-looking as her son? :smallwink:

I hate it when they do a novel adaptation of a movie and they make all the characters ugly and throw in all sorts of extra stuff. ;)

[Zolem]

Very nice strip, turns out the oracle can't revive people....kind of figures!

Time to take Roy somewhere else, either that or stop eating V's messenger birds. :smallbiggrin:

I'm surprised that people thought the Oracle was a Cleric. I always thought of him as an ORACLE, somebody divinly empowered by a God directly for the sole purpose of telling the future. It's freaking in the dictionary. Hell, when I was forced to give my Oracle clas levels cause the players decided to attack, I made him a freaking wizard! They have scrying and divinging spells too you know.

[Timberboar]

They made Beowulf into a movie?!

At least five different times now.


I'm surprised that people thought the Oracle was a Cleric. I always thought of him as an ORACLE, somebody divinly empowered by a God directly

Gosh, how could someone think that an oracle (someone divinely empowered by a god) could be a cleric (someone divinely empowered by a god)?

It's mind-boggling! :)

[The Gremlin]

I can see the joke already: "Guess what, redhead, you actually shot the messenger!"And then she will shoot the Oracle. :smallwink:

[Aeti]

Back when the Order last visited the oracle, when Haley couldn't talk properly, the kobold understood her because he looked into the future to where the strips were compiled into a book and subtitles were added to translate her speech. OOTS 330 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0330.html)
So how come he can't look into the future book and see Roy there?
I'm assuming that the kobold isn't looking at the future book because he doesn't have a reason to.

[David Argall]

Back when the Order last visited the oracle, when Haley couldn't talk properly, the kobold understood her because he looked into the future to where the strips were compiled into a book and subtitles were added to translate her speech. OOTS 330 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0330.html)
So how come he can't look into the future book and see Roy there?
I'm assuming that the kobold isn't looking at the future book because he doesn't have a reason to.
On the face of it, he has a reason. Like you wouldn't read every word of a book you had heard you are in? [That was a famous practical joke a few decades back. The jokester found a very long, and very dull, book and sent a copy to each of several "friends" with the message to each "You will be amused, tho possibly hurt, by the references to you." It was some time before most of the victims found they had been had.]

[MReav]

I think the Kobold is going to make a bunch of snappy comments to Roy once everyone leaves, making a bunch of fourth wall breaking comments along the way (though I think what might happen is that once Roy leaves, he's going to do that). Probably along the order of him not doing anything for people who can't pay.

I can't help but wonder... if Kobolds were created as a cannon-fodder race, why is this one being divinely empowered?

I already thought the Dark One was, at the very least, stretching the truth.

[Steveio]

Back when the Order last visited the oracle, when Haley couldn't talk properly, the kobold understood her because he looked into the future to where the strips were compiled into a book and subtitles were added to translate her speech. OOTS 330 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0330.html)
So how come he can't look into the future book and see Roy there?
I'm assuming that the kobold isn't looking at the future book because he doesn't have a reason to.

Or it could be that the Oracle can see Roy from the compilation book in the future, but he's pretending to not notice him just to screw with him.

The Oracle makes a comment after Haley says "our leader, Roy, is dead". He says "as the metaphorical doornail", which would imply that he knew Roy was dead the whole time, or at least because he could see Roy's ghost.




In an unrelated matter, I find it strange that the Oracle's just standing around doing nothing in his own home.

[Selene]

I can't help but wonder... if Kobolds were created as a cannon-fodder race, why is this one being divinely empowered?

I already thought the Dark One was, at the very least, stretching the truth.

Good point.