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dish
2008-06-24, 10:32 PM
A second place for girls (transgender included) to post about girlie stuff.

Guys are welcome providing they show a little respect and common sense (and don't complain when we talk about icky stuff).

Collin152
2008-06-24, 10:42 PM
Respect and common sense go out with me on Thursdays, never you worry.

perpetualnoise
2008-06-25, 01:05 AM
Respect and common sense are rare these days.

I do have one question for the ladies of GitP. When a girl is constantly talking about her ex and how messed up their relationship is and that co-workers are asking her out but she's making up exscuses to avoid going out with them... what does that mean?

Serpentine
2008-06-25, 01:20 AM
*Trog stages a pantie raid on the thread to get someone to make Girl Thread #2 since we're on page 50*

...

Ooo! Thong! :smallamused::confused:
http://i.pricerunner.com/prod/17_10_10_3_i261049919s/product.jpeg? :smallconfused:

:smalltongue:

Constantbuzzing: How long ago did the relationship end?

Nychta
2008-06-25, 01:59 AM
Serpy, that's a jandal.

Serpentine
2008-06-25, 02:04 AM
A jandal? :smallconfused: That's a new one. It's a thong, plain and simple.

Nychta
2008-06-25, 02:15 AM
Well... Kiwis call that a jandal.
Thongs, to us, are those panties.

See, we have less confusion.

Serpentine
2008-06-25, 02:21 AM
We have no confusion, so apparently New Zealand is -confusion.
Thongs = footwear.
G-strings = underwear.

Done, easy :smallsmile:

Never heard of a jandal... Makes me think they tried to combine "g-string" with "sandal" for a disturbingly evocative image.

Also, have I mentioned just how much I hate the word "panties"? :smallyuk:

Nychta
2008-06-25, 02:31 AM
I don't much like that word, either, but I thought "underwear" referred to anything that isn't outerwear. So underwear could be bras, singlets, thermals, tights, panties...

Serpentine
2008-06-25, 03:34 AM
Mm, I guess I kinda have two definition of underwear...
Underwear: The classification for a variety of undergarments, including... *shudder* "panties", bras, singlets, socks, thermals, etc.
Underwear: aka undies, the undergarments worn on one's nether-regions.

I wouldn't call a bra an underwear, but I would include it in the general category of underwear? I guess kinda like I wouldn't call my jumper a clothing...

R.O.A.
2008-06-25, 04:03 AM
Speaking as a brit, I agree with the Kiwi :smallwink: A thong is underwear. That picture is a flip-flop.

:smallbiggrin:

dish
2008-06-25, 04:18 AM
Serp, if you hate 'panties' so much, we could go all British on you and call them 'knickers'.

According to my dictionary 'underwear' matches your first definition: anything you wear next to your skin under your other clothes. 'Undies' would be the shorter form of the plural and thus could refer to knickers, bras, camisoles, etc.

However, we could try to be a bit classy and call it 'lingerie'.

Serpentine
2008-06-25, 04:33 AM
I can live with knickers.

Underpants/knickers
http://i.treehugger.com/files/pzgreenknickers.gif

Panties :smallyuk:
http://www.passiononline.co.uk/shop/images/pink-frilly-pants.jpg

Lingerie
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q314/honewatson/models/ines-vanegas-lingerie-colombia-colo.jpg

And here endeth the lesson :smallwink:

dish
2008-06-25, 04:42 AM
Well, what you call 'panties' is obviously what I call 'frilly knickers' (and those are really frilly - where did you find them?)

Sorry perpetualnoise, we got sidetracked by underwear nomenclature. Right, your question:


I do have one question for the ladies of GitP. When a girl is constantly talking about her ex and how messed up their relationship is and that co-workers are asking her out but she's making up exscuses to avoid going out with them... what does that mean?

To me it means that she still needs time to get over the ex. If he's that constantly on her mind then she's obviously not ready for a new relationship, and probably doesn't even feel up to a friendly date. She needs lots of girlie nights out and a bit of time off from dating. Tell the co-workers just to let it lie for a few months.

The Rose Dragon
2008-06-25, 05:19 AM
First of all, that picture is a sandalet. What you apparently call g-string is called a tanga. In Turkish. Which is the best language ever. Too bad I don't know how to speak it properly.

CurlyKitGirl
2008-06-25, 06:09 AM
In Britland:
knickers/undies.
Thongs are those disgusting string up your butt undies
Flip-flops are what Serpie calls 'thongs'
Underwear is just bras and undies. Socks are socks.

Avilan the Grey
2008-06-25, 08:10 AM
Well, what you call 'panties' is obviously what I call 'frilly knickers' (and those are really frilly - where did you find them?)

Sorry perpetualnoise, we got sidetracked by underwear nomenclature. Right, your question:



To me it means that she still needs time to get over the ex. If he's that constantly on her mind then she's obviously not ready for a new relationship, and probably doesn't even feel up to a friendly date. She needs lots of girlie nights out and a bit of time off from dating. Tell the co-workers just to let it lie for a few months.

[DELURKING](I have found these threads (Girl 1, and the guy one) very fun and interesting).

English is not my first language, but to me perpetualnoise's question was not all clear: Is this girl in a new relationship and constantly talks about her ex and the hassle of being asked out, or is she single?

Dallas-Dakota
2008-06-25, 10:26 AM
Avilian : What I've made out of it :
Girl broke up with a guy.
Girl wants to be away from relationships with men and such.
Co-workers and such ask her out.

Advice : Let it rest, let it chill. Ask one of her friends if you want to go out with her when the time is right, they probably know her best. And try to be a bit subtle.
Don't : Don't come in the room and bluntly ask her : Hey, when is (insert girl's name) up to dating?
Instead : Hey, you're one of (insert girls name here) friends, right? I heard that she was upset with the break-up and I just want to know, how is she doing?

That way, you approach, show interest in her. But you're going slow, you say : hows it going with her? Girls often interpretate that as somebody who cares for her.

All of this post is my oppinion and my advice. It is probably best not to follow it. I'm probably wrong as well.

Also, new girl thread.
*snogs Rogue as soon as she walks in*

Trog
2008-06-25, 10:27 AM
Constantbuzzing: How long ago did the relationship end?

Is this directed at me? :smallconfused:

If so the answer is about 2 weeks. Is my relationship status gonna stop me from posting like your typical Troglodyte? Mmmmmmmm....no. No it's not. Never has. Silly. :smalltongue:

Where was I? :smallconfused: Oh yeah.

And that picture is a flip-flop. Or a sandal. Or a... um... jandal? :smallconfused:

Edit: "The server is busy at the moment" message can kiss my scaly behind. :smallannoyed:

Serpentine
2008-06-25, 10:30 AM
Constantbuzzing = perpetualnoise :smalltongue: Glad to hear that, anyway, Trog.

Come on! Where are my fellow Aussies to back me up on this?! I thought maybe a Kiwi could do, but noooooooo...

Dallas-Dakota
2008-06-25, 10:39 AM
Serp, I have heard they call it in australia and sometimes in New Zealand, but no where else. So I thing its a australia thingy.
Personally I call them in english : Flip-Flops or whatever else comes to mind.
Underwear : You wear it on your skin and its only ment for either the female chest region or the nether regions.

And socks are socks. Not underwear or something else. That would be plain silly.

RabbitHoleLost
2008-06-25, 11:11 AM
My American grandmother calls flip-flops/whatever "thongs".
I always made fun of her for it >>

WalkingTarget
2008-06-25, 12:58 PM
Open footwear terminology in Illinois (or at least my family's usage):

"Sandals" have a strap or other such contrivance to keep your heel close to the sole.

"Flip-flops" are like sandals, only without the strap, so the back part flaps up and down while you're walking (thus the name).

"Thongs" can belong to either category but are distinguished by having the thing that goes between your big toe and the next one over (the thong part, since the word just means a thin strip of something). Not all sandals/flip-flops have this component, so it's still a useful description/distinction.

DraPrime
2008-06-25, 03:34 PM
Target essentially nailed it for American dialects, except for the thongs. Up here in New England (for those who don't know your American geography that's all the states NE of New York) wearing a thong on your foot would be considered very weird. Up here a thong is basically a T string

WalkingTarget
2008-06-25, 03:58 PM
Well, honestly, "thong" doesn't get used for footware much these days around here either as the popularity of stringy undergarments has supplanted it in common usage. I just remember people using "thong" for that type of shoe during my childhood whereas I didn't really start hearing people refer to "thong underwear" until about 10 years ago.

Edit for further clarity: I guess my point is that until relatively recently the word "thong" by itself would have meant a shoe and you'd refer to the other as "thong underwear" if not another name like G-string or whatnot. Nowadays it's reversed and you might hear somebody talk about a pair of "thong sandals". The connotation has shifted enough that the additional descriptor has to be on the shoes now. Context would have a lot to do with it too, though.

Vibrant
2008-06-26, 02:24 PM
ITA w/Target on the thong/thong conundrum (so maybe it's all just a Midwest thing??).

Anyway, hooray for Girl Thread II because I got way behind on Girl Thread I and now I don't feel like I have to read all the way through it anymore. :smallbiggrin:

Jibar
2008-06-26, 02:32 PM
Thongs are those disgusting string up your butt undies

One of my friends wears nothing but thongs (apparantly she doesn't find any other kind comfortable), which is a really bad idea considering how often wedgies happen in our circle.
She actually had the... strap? snap after one wedgie and had to spend the day commando.

Nothing else really from me. Just wanted to tell the fun story since ya'll were discussing thongs.

Raiser Blade
2008-06-26, 05:53 PM
I say we let Urban dictionary decide. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thong

:smalltongue:

Mauve Shirt
2008-06-26, 06:33 PM
Thong is the underwear, the sandals are called flip-flops.

Zarrexaij
2008-06-26, 07:02 PM
I hate flip-flops.

So, so much. :smallannoyed:


One of my friends wears nothing but thongs (apparantly she doesn't find any other kind comfortable), which is a really bad idea considering how often wedgies happen in our circle.Thongs, when worn correctly IN THE RIGHT SIZE, feel like you're wearing nothing at all. It's ridiculously comfortable.

Of course, you have to wear it IN THE CORRECT SIZE. Key word there.

Em Blackleaf
2008-06-26, 07:08 PM
I've only heard "thong" used as a term for sandals once before this.
Those sandals are called flip-flops to me.
Thongs are underwear.

averagejoe
2008-06-26, 07:12 PM
Out here in CA, anyways, thong can either mean the type of undie or the sandal, though the former is more common, and mostly we use flip flop. It can go either way, though.

If you don't mind, there's a question that's been on my mind, and this seems like the most appropriate place to ask. Opening the car door for a lady: how does that work? I mean, I get the why and all that, I just don't see the mechanics of it. Getting into the car seems simple enough, you just open the door, approach by the passenger door, and such. Getting out... well, I just don't see it, unless the lady is expecting it of me and won't budge unless I open it. I mean, by the time I open my door and walk around to the other side, she has more than enough time to open her door and get out herself. Are you supposed to say, "Sit tight, I'll have it open in a jiffy."? Is it just one of those things where it doesn't make sense unless you do it?

By the way, this is purely hypothetical. I mean, I don't even own a car at the moment. It just seems really weird to me.

Kai
2008-06-26, 07:51 PM
I've always found the opening of the car door thing to be problematic too.

My DH will routinely open my door if we're getting into the car (if he's driving that is), but getting out I'm on my own unless I'm holding something that would make it difficult to get out holding. And I'm completely okay with this situation.

I could think of a few other situations in which I would appreciate a steadying hand getting out of the car (leg in a cast, wearing a long formal dress, etc), but would more than likely just ask for the help than expect it.

I'm not sure if that's much help...

averagejoe
2008-06-26, 08:04 PM
I've always found the opening of the car door thing to be problematic too.

My DH will routinely open my door if we're getting into the car (if he's driving that is), but getting out I'm on my own unless I'm holding something that would make it difficult to get out holding. And I'm completely okay with this situation.

I could think of a few other situations in which I would appreciate a steadying hand getting out of the car (leg in a cast, wearing a long formal dress, etc), but would more than likely just ask for the help than expect it.

I'm not sure if that's much help...

It isn't much. More than anything I suppose I'm wondering how guys who like to open doors at every possible instance make the girls stay in the car long enough for them to do so.

Zarrexaij
2008-06-26, 08:42 PM
I never understood the car opening thing myself, and I'm a chick. I can open the car door myself. :smallannoyed:

I don't mind when people open normal doors for me (I often do the reverse to people, I open doors for men and women alike and I'm a chick), it just kills me when it's car doors.

DraPrime
2008-06-26, 08:48 PM
I actually had a girlfriend who got mad at me because I didn't open the car door. I got out and started walking, expecting her to also get out. In a few seconds I noticed something was wrong, turned around, and saw her sitting in the car expectantly. She was mad at me, as if I had done something really horrible. That relationship didn't last very long (thank god).

Pyrian
2008-06-26, 08:55 PM
Thongs, when worn correctly IN THE RIGHT SIZE, feel like you're wearing nothing at all. It's ridiculously comfortable.Huh, why not just go commando? I mean, most of the time, not necessarily at certain...periods of time. It seems to me that that would be much easier for women than for men. Jeans can chafe!

Zarrexaij
2008-06-26, 08:58 PM
Huh, why not just go commando? I mean, most of the time, not necessarily at certain...periods of time. It seems to me that that would be much easier for women than for men. Jeans can chafe!Who says I don't most of the time? :smallredface:

Assuming makes... aww, hell, you know what I'm going to say.

Nychta
2008-06-26, 09:14 PM
I actually had a girlfriend who got mad at me because I didn't open the car door. I got out and started walking, expecting her to also get out. In a few seconds I noticed something was wrong, turned around, and saw her sitting in the car expectantly. She was mad at me, as if I had done something really horrible. That relationship didn't last very long (thank god).

That is rather pathetic. I'm sorry. It is!

Mauve Shirt
2008-06-26, 09:36 PM
Heeheehee, this thong discussion reminds me of this ridiculous story a girl in my class wrote. This girl is pressured by her friends to buy a thong because guys like skimpy underwear. She buys one way too small for her and wears it to school. It's incredibly tight, so she sneaks to the bathroom to take it off and puts it in her purse. The teacher later suspects her of passing notes and tries to open her bag. The thong flies out of the bag into the face of the boy she likes, who then asks her out.

Kai
2008-06-26, 10:06 PM
It isn't much. More than anything I suppose I'm wondering how guys who like to open doors at every possible instance make the girls stay in the car long enough for them to do so.

I suppose the best way would be to do as you suggested above and say something like "I'll come get your door." Though I think on a first date or an important occasion this may come off as charming, if I was the girl in the situation I would quickly become annoyed with the behavior and have to bring it up.

Avilan the Grey
2008-06-27, 12:26 AM
I actually had a girlfriend who got mad at me because I didn't open the car door. I got out and started walking, expecting her to also get out. In a few seconds I noticed something was wrong, turned around, and saw her sitting in the car expectantly. She was mad at me, as if I had done something really horrible. That relationship didn't last very long (thank god).

*Ouch*

I tend to open the car door for my wife (when getting out) if I happen to have much less to carry etc. But that is more a common sense thing; if all I am carrying are car keys, and she has a bag and a large purse, sure. If we are both empty handed then she'll get out all by herself :smallbiggrin:

Avilan the Grey
2008-06-27, 12:30 AM
Heeheehee, this thong discussion reminds me of this ridiculous story a girl in my class wrote. This girl is pressured by her friends to buy a thong because guys like skimpy underwear. She buys one way too small for her and wears it to school. It's incredibly tight, so she sneaks to the bathroom to take it off and puts it in her purse. The teacher later suspects her of passing notes and tries to open her bag. The thong flies out of the bag into the face of the boy she likes, who then asks her out.

:smallbiggrin: Cute story. Sounds like a sitcom situation, really.
Of course as with most sitcom situations built on innuendos this could just as easily been used as a Porn Plot(tm). But then any situation could become a Porn Plot(tm).

Quincunx
2008-06-27, 01:54 AM
On enforcing car door etiquette: It would work if the passenger-side door couldn't be opened from the inside. On that note, does anyone know how to disable that feature on a Fiat Punto, or is that just a quirk of this particular car? I assume it's like a child safety lock, but all of those that I've known have been on back doors only. More than that, we've owned the dang thing for just over a week.

On thongs: Comfy except for the lacy bit in the back tilting sideways and snaking its way in like an envelope* into a mailbox. Maybe your cheeks are naturally more spread than mine, but my verdict is "aaaaaaargh, no, make it stop". That cursed thing is restricted for very special fun times because the sooner it is off, the better.

. . .It's a plot, isn't it.

On making your own underwear: Ye gods, and I thought outerwear fabric was expensive here. On the other hand, I feel little guilt about buying sleek and shimmery fabrics because that's the only darned four-way stretch fabric available! The specialty elastic either doesn't exist or I'm using an American term again. Thank goodness I had that clear elastic squirreled away through three (or is it four now?) moves ago.

On a fabric stash: I miniaturized it before moving! Honest! And I found a use for those buttons twelve years later! They're on my coat now, see!

On denial: Am not.

*The envelope is also lacy and scallop-edged. And sharp.

Avilan the Grey
2008-06-27, 01:59 AM
On enforcing car door etiquette: It would work if the passenger-side door couldn't be opened from the inside. On that note, does anyone know how to disable that feature on a Fiat Punto, or is that just a quirk of this particular car? I assume it's like a child safety lock, but all of those that I've known have been on back doors only. More than that, we've owned the dang thing for just over a week.

The wire inside the door might have snapped (or it might not have been properly attached). You should be able to check (and maybe even fix) this yourself, or at least with the help from someone not charging Car Shop prices.

DigoDragon
2008-06-27, 06:31 AM
Car door etiquette?
Getting in: I open the door for my wife if she is carrying a lot of stuff, otherwise she opens her own door. She usually thinks I'm up to something if I open the door for her and she's empty-handed. :smallsmile:
Getting out: I actually stay in the car and hold her stuff so she can get out, then hand it to her before getting out myself. She prefers it this way (and I don't question it).

Though with the baby now I tend to spend more time strapping in car seats then opening doors. I tell you, those babies get heavy really quick. :smalltongue:

averagejoe
2008-06-27, 12:16 PM
I suppose the best way would be to do as you suggested above and say something like "I'll come get your door." Though I think on a first date or an important occasion this may come off as charming, if I was the girl in the situation I would quickly become annoyed with the behavior and have to bring it up.

Well, I'd be more likely to say, "Sheesh, open the door yourself," unless there was some mitigating circumstance, as something on her lap, etc. Honestly, though, this came up because I was reading a novel in which the Good Guys kept opening the doors for ladys (it's how you could tell they were good guys), and I was trying to figure out how that would work, especially since the ladys didn't seem to be expecting it. In one instance a carful of ladys pulled up to a guy's house, and they waited in the car long enough to come out of the house, open the door for them, and help them out, all individually. Really, it was a pretty bad novel, and women seemed to be objectified in that, "I'm not objectifying women, I'm just being polite," way.


On enforcing car door etiquette: It would work if the passenger-side door couldn't be opened from the inside. On that note, does anyone know how to disable that feature on a Fiat Punto, or is that just a quirk of this particular car? I assume it's like a child safety lock, but all of those that I've known have been on back doors only. More than that, we've owned the dang thing for just over a week.

Yeah, but I've found that, when dating, trapping the girl in the car creates more problems than it solves. :smalltongue:

Collin152
2008-06-27, 01:42 PM
Old, old car of ours that we called Lady Deathtrap, the passenger door wouldn't open from the inside.
I'd have taken it on dates for that feature, but it's a stcikshift. Can't drive that.
And then we got the door fixed, so no opportunities for trapping dates...

Vibrant
2008-06-27, 05:01 PM
Well, I'd be more likely to say, "Sheesh, open the door yourself," unless there was some mitigating circumstance, as something on her lap, etc. Honestly, though, this came up because I was reading a novel in which the Good Guys kept opening the doors for ladys (it's how you could tell they were good guys), and I was trying to figure out how that would work, especially since the ladys didn't seem to be expecting it. In one instance a carful of ladys pulled up to a guy's house, and they waited in the car long enough to come out of the house, open the door for them, and help them out, all individually. Really, it was a pretty bad novel, and women seemed to be objectified in that, "I'm not objectifying women, I'm just being polite," way.


I once read a book, also of a romantical nature :smalltongue: , where our hero was so insistent on opening the door for his lady love (who was distinctly of the "I can open my own door, thankyouverymuch" attitude) that he would reach across the car - and his date - and open the door from the inside before getting out himself. :smallconfused:

Jokerz
2008-06-27, 06:40 PM
Ahhh... the thong discussion reminds me of this one time I was with my parents at the beach. To make a ridiculously long story short, my Dad yelled at me to put my thong on. It was funny and embarassing at the same time.

CurlyKitGirl
2008-06-27, 06:48 PM
Car door ettiquette: arrange it before time. Nothing looks more chivalrous than if your 'date' does it for you. Except it was with my best friend when we went out. Great fun as well beause we did the whole romance thing for five minutes before we had hysterics.
But seriously, if your guy wants to do the door thing for you do it. And you can tell anyway. Their eyes tend to slide to the door, or you wait two seconds while he gets out. If he makes the turn to your side he'll probably be opening the door.


EDIT: ANd now for no explainable reason I really want to watch Dragonheart.

dish
2008-07-03, 12:43 AM
So, how do you keep fit during the summer?

I'm just back from a Hatha yoga class. I used to go about 3 times a week, but due to the wedding, lack of cash, and work issues, I've slacked off for a few months. Today it was embarrassing - I was obviously the worst. I picked the 11.30am Thursday class because it's usually full of slightly-older, slightly-plumper Shanghainese housewives who make me feel a bit better about my body. But no, today it was full of an international crowd of slim, trim 20 and 30 somethings (don't these women have work to go to?) who were all immaculately groomed and incredibly flexible.

Bleh.

Lolligiggle
2008-07-03, 01:35 AM
On summer exercise:

In summer - flexible work schedule and a bicycle. Nice day? Haven't ridden hard in a few? Take a long ride before/after work and shift my hours accordingly.

In winter - mope around and try to come up with ways to ride my bicycle in the cold/wet but drink hot cocoa instead. :smallwink:

On car doors:

I get frustrated quickly because I can generally care for myself, but as has been pointed out it's fun for first dates and for special events. I like to have the now-and-then dress-up/fancy date, and there I make sure it's understood before hand that gallentry and class are expected. So, pre-arranging makes all the difference and then you can both play with it.

dish
2008-07-03, 02:07 AM
I rode my bike to yoga class. But the trouble is, in summer I need to be wearing a sun-hat and something to cover my shoulders and arms if I'm going to be riding a bike. Suncream just sweats right off...

Lady Tialait
2008-07-03, 02:31 AM
Am I the only Daddy's girl ITP?...and how many of you are considered Tom Boys...

dish
2008-07-03, 02:47 AM
I always was, and still am, reasonably 'girlie'. However, my Daddy still loves me! :smallwink: (He taught me how to ride a bike, whistle, wire a plug, unblock a sink, light a fire, and paint a wall).

SweetLikeLemons
2008-07-03, 02:50 AM
Are Daddy's Girl and Tom Boy mutually exclusive? I hadn't heard that term used that way before. I was definitely Daddy's Girl as a kid, in that I wanted to follow him around and help him fix things around the house and he took great joy in teaching me how to use power tools or skip rocks, so if by Daddy's Girl, you mean stereotypically girly, that doesn't really fit. Of course, as I got older, he also tried to scare off boyfriends and wouldn't let me leave for prom until he had dug out the camera to take a picture of me all dressed up.

Actually, I think even being girly or a tom boy is not an all or nothing thing. They each have their time and place and both can be very fun.

Lady Tialait
2008-07-03, 02:50 AM
My Daddy wanted a Boy, I am not....he never got a boy I have 5 sisters. They are all Girlie, i'm attached to my daddy. So, i'm a tomboyish. I was taught everything my dad would have taught his son.

My Dad is classic Nerd...so he's not manly but I got to learn all kinds of neato Nerdy stuff and then I got my Husband through my hobbies.

Em Blackleaf
2008-07-03, 03:01 AM
I used to be a total tomboy. But now I'm in the middle. Kinda girly, but not entirely.
I still love playing outside. And I'm pretty good at football. Isn't that cool?

I do love my dad, and we have nerdy discussions about why things are the way they are and stuff about science, math, and mechanical engineering.
It's mostly started by me asking about my homework. Or a random question about how something works. Because people are more fun that Wikipedia. :smalltongue:
One of my fondest memories is of my dad teaching me how to play baseball. And I remember sitting on my daddy's lap and watching him play Freecell on the computer when I was little. But, I kinda feel like I'm not a "Daddy's Girl" or a "Momma's Girl."
I just hang out with them and talk to them equally.
I talk to my mom about girly stuff, books (because we have similar taste in books), and we watch America's Next Top Model together (she got me hooked), since I don't have sisters who would like it too.

Charity
2008-07-03, 08:54 AM
On enforcing car door etiquette: It would work if the passenger-side door couldn't be opened from the inside. On that note, does anyone know how to disable that feature on a Fiat Punto, or is that just a quirk of this particular car? I assume it's like a child safety lock, but all of those that I've known have been on back doors only. More than that, we've owned the dang thing for just over a week.


http://www.europcar.co.uk/microsite/research-council/fleet-guide/vehicle-controls-sheets/vcs_fiat4.pdf

it only mentions back doors there but the mechanism is usually on the door itself, only accessible when the doors open...

(If it has a remote open key fob and you open it via the key it may keep the passanger door locked, but you can usually open it from the inside, there is some sort of security feature on some of these cars that auto locks the door when the engine is engaged, that might be malfuntioning. Childlocks are not usually fitted to the front doors)

dish
2008-07-03, 10:43 AM
I have got to remember that a sarong, while light-weight and comfortable, yet covered-up enough to be suitable for work in the summer (and rather elegant in black, if I say so myself) is NOT a good idea when riding a bicycle.

(At least, not unless I really want the entire city to see my knickers.)

Collin152
2008-07-03, 05:34 PM
So, how do you keep fit during the summer?


Same way I do the rest of the year.
Don't eat.
The rest writes itself.

Kai
2008-07-03, 10:06 PM
Daddy's girl vs tomboy...? I always thought that 'girlly girl' and 'tomboy' were the opposites. I'm definitely a daddy's girl. I have a great relationship with my mom too, but it takes work and a lot of patience (probably on both sides), but my relationship with my dad is effortless. My dad and I have personalities that would make us friends even if not related.

I think I fall somewhere in the middle of the 'girly girl'/'tomboy' spectrum...probably more toward the tomboy end, but not all the way.

I hang out with guys about 85% of the time and generally like the same things they all do. I like watching football (American), hockey - baseball is tolerable - and I know enough about sports to be included in the discussions of such without sounding "like a girl."

I love computer games, console games, roleplaying. I fit right in with all my husband's friends. The other night we were all discussing some of the new 4th edition rules over Skype and I excused myself to go watch Design Star on HGTV and one of the guys was like "You're going to watch what?" My husband without missing a beat says "She is a girl" like that explained it (which it did in that context).

But you can't suppress my girlness either. I love the color pink, filly underwear, trying on makeup, and lots of other traditionally girly girl things.

Cult_of_the_Raven
2008-07-03, 10:47 PM
May I join?

I am, and have always been, the tomboy. I don't understand girly-girls. I dress in whatever is most comfortable most of the time, I wear work clothes around the house because I always get messy. I can't say that I'm a daddy's girl, altough I might be. Right now I'm really upset at him. When you're almost eighteen, it really is upsetting having a father who feels it's appropriate to threaten your boyfriend.

I feel horrible today. (And also in the mood to rant about it.)
What do you do when you're in a long-distance relationship with someone, and you've been together for well nigh two years, but you feel they might or might not be putting enough into it? I wish he'd talk more about himself. He has a life and I don't though, so I haven't the foggiest how much of it is him being really busy. (He's been on vacation with his family for a few weeks now, and it's driving me utterly insane.)

Silence
2008-07-03, 10:52 PM
Hmmmmm.... a girl thread....... why not?

*reads*


*brain implodes*

Pocketa
2008-07-04, 02:21 AM
May I join?

I am, and have always been, the tomboy. I don't understand girly-girls. I dress in whatever is most comfortable most of the time, I wear work clothes around the house because I always get messy. I can't say that I'm a daddy's girl, altough I might be. Right now I'm really upset at him. When you're almost eighteen, it really is upsetting having a father who feels it's appropriate to threaten your boyfriend.

I feel horrible today. (And also in the mood to rant about it.)
What do you do when you're in a long-distance relationship with someone, and you've been together for well nigh two years, but you feel they might or might not be putting enough into it? I wish he'd talk more about himself. He has a life and I don't though, so I haven't the foggiest how much of it is him being really busy. (He's been on vacation with his family for a few weeks now, and it's driving me utterly insane.)

I'm a tom somewhat myself.

I know what you mean about the person. They don't seem to really give a damn at all. You never know what they're thinking, what they're feeling, and then, BAM! it over because of some stupid reason that could've been avoided if he had just opened his mouth. I don't know why guys do that. I need advice on that me self!

dish
2008-07-04, 10:08 AM
Cult_of_the_Raven: When I was a child, I was very close to my father. Now I'm an adult we also have a strong relationship. When I was a teenager, however, it was absolute hell. I think some fathers really struggle to see their daughters growing up and exploring their sexuality. The one thing that saved our relationship was me moving out to go to university.

Also, long-distance relationships are always difficult. It sounds like he might just be extra busy with his family and other commitments at the moment. But, how long have you been feeling this way?

Pocketa:Heh, my husband has this tendency to expect me to be psychic. I keep telling him that while I am brilliant (obviously :smallwink:) there are limits.

CurlyKitGirl
2008-07-04, 10:55 AM
Tpmboy who's daddy's girl too. In that Dad seems to favour me more than the others. Then again, me and Dad have the same taste in humour, we read the same books (until I was fifteen or so he rarely borrowed any of my books, now he does) and that sort of thing. Also, he's teaching me to cook.
But I'm most definitely a tomboy. I wear whatever's at hand, my hair's just untamed now 'cause I can't even find a hairband (and m too cheap to buy more) and the only really girly aspect of me is my passion for earrings.
Oh, and I absolutely destest moths, any insect that flies at night and am now terrified of spiders thanks to a really really really nasty dream.

dish
2008-07-04, 11:07 AM
So, I think we've decided that tomboy / girlie girl doesn't necessarily equate with being a 'daddy's girl' or not. Some fathers adore their tomboys, and some fathers adore their girlies - and this is the way it probably should be. (Although Em's right, in an ideal situation one would be close to both parents equally.)

Castaras
2008-07-04, 11:11 AM
*is close to both parents*

I guess it's 'cos I do things both parents do. =)

My mum draws and models. I do that sometimes also. Dad models and has the same tastes in music as I do. All of us use computers too much of the time.

I have an amazing family. ^.^

Ilena
2008-07-04, 11:24 AM
Well as for the door openning for women part, i believe it goes back to the horse and carrage, where the door is on the side, you open it and let the lady in then you just have to swing up on the seat right beside the door and away you go, reverse for when you stop, and i believe in that day and era women were seen as delicate and such, nowadays with the way cars are having to walk all the way around the engine and such or trunk, takes far longer then just hopping down off a carrage seat, so normaly they have already openned the door long before you got half way around,



I'm a tom somewhat myself.

I know what you mean about the person. They don't seem to really give a damn at all. You never know what they're thinking, what they're feeling, and then, BAM! it over because of some stupid reason that could've been avoided if he had just opened his mouth. I don't know why guys do that. I need advice on that me self!

as for guys not openning their mouths, i think it has something to do with the fact that if you go to talk about your feelings or things like that people tell you to "stop being a princess, and suck it up and be a man" kinda stuff, that im sure at one point in our lives all men have heard, so men tend to just bottle up their feelings, (dam near killed me but thats another story), also men tend to not care about things as much as women do (possibly related to the above), but thats what i tend to gather with my own experinces and observations,

Collin152
2008-07-04, 11:29 AM
as for guys not openning their mouths, i think it has something to do with the fact that if you go to talk about your feelings or things like that people tell you to "stop being a princess, and suck it up and be a man" kinda stuff, that im sure at one point in our lives all men have heard, so men tend to just bottle up their feelings, (dam near killed me but thats another story), also men tend to not care about things as much as women do (possibly related to the above), but thats what i tend to gather with my own experinces and observations,

I should try that bottling-it-up thing.
Speaking my mind and heart have thusfar only put me in living hell, and frankly I'd rather not endure that unnesecarily.

Ilena
2008-07-04, 02:31 PM
Thats not the best thing eather, trust me, you just have to know when to talk and when not to, and find someone/people who will accually lissen, everyone women ive known (only a few that i can count on 1 hand ..) have always wanted to talk and comunicate, if you can do that you are way ahead of the game, (yes that includes sharing feelings)

Cult_of_the_Raven
2008-07-04, 02:46 PM
I dunno, I love him to death, but he frustrates me sometimes.
So maybe I should ask him specifically to be a touch more vocal? I really just want him to talk about his day. I don't really mind the feelings thing.

SweetLikeLemons
2008-07-04, 02:54 PM
I forgot to mention earlier, I have finally found the perfect solution to the car-door-opening problem: I drive. The boyfriend likes to open the car door and help me out and stuff like that, but I usually forget to sit and wait for him to get around to my side, and anyway, that just feels awkward and silly. But when I drive, I am usually fiddling with my keys and putting my sunglasses away long enough for him to get around the car without sprinting. Also, driving keeps me from feeling like some pedestal-sitting princess. I think it really works.

So if guys bottle up their feelings because they are told to "Suck it up and be a man" what about girls? Because I definitely bottle things up much more than I should. I suppose growing up in the midwest doesn't help much with that, as it seems to be something of a cultural thing there, but how much of it is innate, I wonder? I am pretty shy in real life. And how much of it is a larger aspect of our culture? I think at least a bit of my emotional reticence is to avoid the stereotype of the nagging, whiny woman, but it doesn't seem to do my relationships much good.

Pocketa
2008-07-04, 03:05 PM
as for guys not openning their mouths, i think it has something to do with the fact that if you go to talk about your feelings or things like that people tell you to "stop being a princess, and suck it up and be a man" kinda stuff, that im sure at one point in our lives all men have heard, so men tend to just bottle up their feelings, (dam near killed me but thats another story), also men tend to not care about things as much as women do (possibly related to the above), but thats what i tend to gather with my own experinces and observations,

That's the thing: I don't talk about my feelings with the guys that I like. I talk about whatever they're interested. And that's like, a group of us, in a group of friends. I guess that might just be the guys, but whenever I'm around they clam-up. I talk alot, and very well, and people consider me one of the 'populars' (because I have friends in every social group at school, but still, I only know about 100 people (1/30) of the school really well) and the guy I like are either consider 'unpopular', 'losers', 'geeks', or 'nerds'. I don't like labels, but that's what they're labeled, and they still think that the high school hierarchy thing is real, whereas I think 'just do whatever you want', so they think that I'm messing around with them and don't do anything in case they get hurt.

On what fathers like? My grandmother is traditional and would like me to be more feminine. My father just wants me to be happy. If you grow up to be tom, good for you! and hopefully, your parents will encourage that behavior to help you grow further. If you grow up as a princess, that's good to! If you don't fall in a stereotype, the same. Whatever makes you feel happy, as long as your parents nurture it.

AmberVael
2008-07-04, 03:48 PM
I guess you could consider me a tomboy... I've got a rather interesting collection of social adjectives when you look at the whole picture. :smalltongue:
It definitely comes from my mother- she grew up with five brothers and would play football from them. No one has any real problem with that sort of thing in my family.
It's just the me deciding I'm a woman in the first place that makes my parents uneasy. :smallsigh:

I'm closer to my mother- we have conflicts, but in the end we're just too much alike not to be close. We look at my brother and father and just can't help but sympathize. :smalltongue:
My father... well...
I wanted to be close with him, but after a time I just stopped trying. Communication and relationships don't seem to come easy to him, and the most I hear from him are long ranting arguments about his many, many viewpoints on life.
I probably could have been a daddy's girl if it weren't for just how he interacts with people... makes me sad to think about it.

As for emotional states:
Men are not supposed to be openly emotional unless it's anger or something macho. :smallyuk:
Women, on the other hand, have a good number of excuses that are socially acceptable- being emotional is fine, but not being emotional, and being all shy is fine too (at least from what I've seen).

Collin152
2008-07-04, 04:02 PM
As for emotional states:
Men are not supposed to be openly emotional unless it's anger or something macho. :smallyuk:


Even the gays?
:smallfrown:

AmberVael
2008-07-04, 04:22 PM
...well, in my terribly pessimistic view of society, gay guys would probably be fine. It's not like the people around would look down on them any less than they already do. :smallannoyed:

Of course, you can make this point: if you're in a more forwards thinking and progressive society and group, then it won't matter if you're gay or not, you can display emotion.
It also will mean that they won't have as much of a set stereotype of gay men in general.

Collin152
2008-07-04, 04:26 PM
...well, in my terribly pessimistic view of society, gay guys would probably be fine. It's not like the people around would look down on them any less than they already do. :smallannoyed:


...
You are this close to beign called Debbie Downer, young lady. :smallfrown:

AmberVael
2008-07-04, 05:07 PM
...
You are this close to beign called Debbie Downer, young lady. :smallfrown:

It is a terrible negative perception of mine that I'm trying to break.
Yes, there are people out there who'd look down on all the things I worry about people looking down on, but there are more than just those people.

Cult_of_the_Raven
2008-07-04, 11:54 PM
*snip*
So if guys bottle up their feelings because they are told to "Suck it up and be a man" what about girls? Because I definitely bottle things up much more than I should. I suppose growing up in the midwest doesn't help much with that, as it seems to be something of a cultural thing there, but how much of it is innate, I wonder? I am pretty shy in real life. And how much of it is a larger aspect of our culture? I think at least a bit of my emotional reticence is to avoid the stereotype of the nagging, whiny woman, but it doesn't seem to do my relationships much good.

Story of my life. You are not alone. Living in the midwest, being homeschooled, Generally looking down on the 'mainstream', not talking to anybody who lives within a 30-50 mile radius - all things that I attribute to myself being shy, bottled-up and confused when it comes to social situations.
I would say that it's innate, but most of my relatives are the big socialite types, so I doubt it's inherited.

Edit: Did I mention that I'm almost eighteen but I look like I'm twelve? My body's decent, but my face is almost perfectly circular. People assume the wrong thing, which gets me even more flustered. :smallyuk: Not to mention my tinny little voice, and a height of almost four-foot-ten. And a natural reaction to look even younger when threatened or stressed - kind of puts me at a disadvantage.

All I can say is that I'm good with small animals and script code, but not people. :smallsigh:

Serpentine
2008-07-04, 11:54 PM
On the waaaaay old discussion on contraceptives: I've really gotta go get that implant put in soon. As I said, though, it suddenly feels like there's not much point, and I think I've partly figured out why: Then-bf and I were each other's first, and only, so other contraceptives weren't absolutely essential. Now, any activities in which this implant will be needed in which I engage, other protections will be essential, at least partially negating the need for it :smallsigh: But I'm due for my Guardisil shot, anyway.

On opening the door: Meh. It's good manners whether it's a guy doing it for a girl, a girl for a guy, a guy for a guy or a girl for a girl. Absolutely no point whatsoever in sitting in the car waiting for the guy to go aaaaalll the way around the other side just to do for you what you could easily have done for yourself. When you're carrying a lot of things is another matter, and again just a matter of gender-neutral courtesy.

On guys not talking: I think it could be a mixture of nature and nurture. I think men naturally just don't talk, or need to talk, as much as women do, but at the same time if they do decide to open up there is a... sense, or an impression, or a social idea that it's wussy or whatever to do so. With regards to homosexuals, it's just another item on the list of stereotypical effeminacy :smalltongue:

My aunt used to call me a tomboy, but I'm not so much anymore. Definitely a daddy's girl. I love my mum, and she's great (most of the time :smallsigh:) but dad's just so much better at getting me.

dish
2008-07-05, 11:00 AM
My advice would be: if you don't need the implant then don't bother getting it put in. But then I'm maybe a bit wary of excess hormones floating around.

Serpentine
2008-07-05, 11:22 AM
It's either it or take the pill *shrugs* It's all a bit much of a muchness.
Odd... I'm also kinda... Not scared, exactly, but I kinda don't want to stop taking the pill. Guess I've just been popping one every day for so very long (I think since I was 14ish) it's kinda become sort of engrained.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-05, 02:20 PM
About feelings, how I would do it, just to the girl I'm close with.
Sadly that girl rejected me:smallfrown:.....

's been a year now and I still think about her....

:smallfrown:

(She nicely rejected me, I just had found out she was in a secret relationship with another guy for good reasons..)

:smallfrown:
*remains of hart are again shattered*
And what remain are put onto here....

Cult_of_the_Raven
2008-07-05, 07:07 PM
Aww, that's so sad.

I could never do that to my boyfriend.

EvilElitest
2008-07-05, 08:19 PM
I hate flip-flops.

So, so much. :smallannoyed:

Thank you, another person who agrees with me
from
EE

dish
2008-07-06, 11:56 AM
It's either it or take the pill *shrugs* It's all a bit much of a muchness.
Odd... I'm also kinda... Not scared, exactly, but I kinda don't want to stop taking the pill. Guess I've just been popping one every day for so very long (I think since I was 14ish) it's kinda become sort of engrained.

Do you need it to regulate your cycle? (Sorry, I'm sure you answered that question in the previous thread, but I can't find the specific post.) If so, maybe it's time to find out if your natural cycle has matured since you were 14?

RabbitHoleLost
2008-07-06, 04:41 PM
Alright, girlies since we're on the subject of "The Pill" (I love that you can call it just that, and everyone knows which pill is being discussed), I wanted to know which one exactly everyone else is taking.
I've been looking into putting myself on birthcontrol, but its just so overwhelming with all the different brands (is that what they are? Do you call them brands?).
What do the girls of the playground suggest?

Groundhog
2008-07-06, 05:53 PM
Well, I'd suggest talking to your doctor about it first so that he or she can find one that's best suited to your body. Each pill works a little differently.

That being said, if it were me, I'd get one of the types that you only have to take once a month. Less trouble.

dish
2008-07-08, 01:06 PM
I took the minipill to regulate my periods during important exams, but apart from that have no personal experience. For birth-control and the best all-round protection I have always used condoms. (And I do mean always. If the guy didn't like it, then he didn't get anywhere.)

I suspect this is due to the fact that my most impressionable teenage years (13-16) coincided with AIDS hysteria.

dish
2008-07-10, 04:03 AM
It just occurred to me that there is a sport I enjoy in the summer. That would be swimming, something I've been doing for most of my life.:smallredface:

Can't brain this week. (I'll blame the heat.)

Serpentine
2008-07-10, 04:08 AM
Do you need it to regulate your cycle? (Sorry, I'm sure you answered that question in the previous thread, but I can't find the specific post.) If so, maybe it's time to find out if your natural cycle has matured since you were 14?Well, it is nice to not have a period at all or just have a half-hearted one, but acne originally and now contraception pretty much. I've made the appointment for the implant and Guardasil injection...
RHL: My mum put me on mine, so I have no idea why she chose what she did, though she has switched me between two brands once or twice (I think they're more or less the same thing, though). I'm I was on Levlen ED.

Dragonrider
2008-07-10, 02:00 PM
My cycles are incredibly erratic. Most annoying. One must pack for all circumstances. :smallannoyed:

I'm close with both my parents. In some ways I'm more like my dad (both extremely introverted and borderline OCD, maybe?) but I can TALK to my mom because, you know, she's my mom. :smallwink: Which is nice to have. Dad and I used to fight ALL the time but we haven't in about six months.

Scratch that...we had one big argument a month ago...:smalltongue: I'm far too stubborn and when I'm in a bad mood I have extreme difficulty admitting I'm wrong.

Ranna
2008-07-20, 05:30 PM
Ah my moonblood is non-existant nowdays (thank you 6 years on the Pill) I cannot even use the tinyest of tampons because I am not even that heavy it is most convienient.

As for regularity, I should be like clockwork (with the pill and all) but however it seems taking 1 single pill each day is beyond me and often I forget for several days so I do sometimes spot in between but as I said before its not much of a problem.

Mummy and daddy! I get on well with them both but my mum sometimes irks me because she has a potty mouth and so she tells me that I am stuck up in retort, guess we just don't rub-well in that respect.

I have always been a daddys girl though, me and my youngest sister are daddies girls (AKA the A team) and the two middle sisters are mummys team (they have a name too but I am not remembering it right now). And its funny because me and my youngest sisters look more like my dad whereas the middle two look more like my mum.

Groundhog
2008-07-20, 06:44 PM
I get on pretty well with my parents although we have been having some independance issues ever since I came back from school for the summer. I went and got used to living on my own, and then I move back into my parents' house where they want to regulate my life more.

Lex-Kat
2008-07-21, 09:52 AM
What do you do when you're in a long-distance relationship with someone, and you've been together for well nigh two years, but you feel they might or might not be putting enough into it? I wish he'd talk more about himself. He has a life and I don't though, so I haven't the foggiest how much of it is him being really busy. (He's been on vacation with his family for a few weeks now, and it's driving me utterly insane.)

The problem may be that he has a hard time expressing himself over the phone. I don't know about most men (becuase I don't fit in with them), but I personally hate talking to girls over the phone (family excluded). I can't see them, so I can't "read" what they are thinking.

Ask him to write you a letter, telling you what's going on. I like writing letters.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-21, 09:57 AM
I think that this discussion from Cult Of The Raven fits in more in the Relationship Woes and Advice thread.... There´s a new one up.

Gem Flower
2008-07-21, 11:16 AM
I realize I am just a preteen girl barely hit puberty, and I have a question that makes me sound so young and naive, I don't want to post it publicly. Is there an older female here I can PM?

Stormthorn
2008-07-21, 12:36 PM
Guys are welcome providing they show a little respect and common sense (and don't complain when we talk about icky stuff).

Respect i can probably manage. You will have to define common however.

Icky stuff? Women still have periods? Thats odd...considering the immense popularity of birth control (in my school, its actualy about as popular as god. No joke.) and how advanced our medical science is i thought they were totally optional nowdays.


Is there an older female here I can PM?
Probably. Just going out on a limb. I would guess that either the person who started the thread or Serpentine would be candidates.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-21, 12:39 PM
Dragonrider and Syka too probably.

Stormthorn
2008-07-21, 12:41 PM
Yes...Syka might be a good candidate. I was thinking to myself "Who is that fox avatar person?" again. But as always i couldnt remember.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-21, 01:05 PM
Don´t classify them by Fox avatars.... Exachix has one of those too.....:smallwink: And he´s male.

Castaras
2008-07-21, 01:26 PM
Don´t classify them by Fox avatars.... Exachix has one of those too.....:smallwink: And he´s male.

He definitely is. :smallwink: Unless he hasn't been telling me something...:smallamused:

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-21, 01:28 PM
And don´t let Castaras confuse you. Normally she´s a drow.

And she´s definetly female. Unless she´s been holding out on us.

Jibar
2008-07-21, 01:35 PM
Ya know, you'd be best off never even trying to decide on genders around here.
Trust me.

Stormthorn
2008-07-21, 01:36 PM
For some people its always gender-bender week.

Player_Zero
2008-07-21, 01:41 PM
Only for guys. I don't see many girls pretending to be guys now do I? For some reason guys are more likely to pretend to be girls.

Leigh
2008-07-21, 02:05 PM
Ah, I've seen plenty of girls pretending to be guys...but yes, definitely more girly guys than vice versa. :smallbiggrin:

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-21, 02:24 PM
Only for guys. I don't see many girls pretending to be guys now do I? For some reason guys are more likely to pretend to be girls.
*points at Castaras*

Player_Zero
2008-07-21, 02:33 PM
Pics or it didn't happen.

CurlyKitGirl
2008-07-21, 03:34 PM
Gem, PM Serpy or Syka.
Both 100% girls.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-21, 03:36 PM
Wooohooo. My advice was seconded and thirded!:smallcool:

And I wanted to say something but I forgot what....:smallannoyed:

Dragonrider
2008-07-21, 05:41 PM
Curly...you have the awesomest avatars known to humankind. And then some. :smallbiggrin:

Zarrexaij
2008-07-21, 07:21 PM
On the subject of gender imposters:
Generally, you get more attention as a chick on the internet (LAWL A CHIK LETS CYBAR WIF HER!) than as a guy. I've been on a forum where there have been AT LEAST three occasions of guys pretending to be chicks, in all three cases were creepy nutcases that stole HORDES of pictures of a female of their choice from MySpace or Facebook. Because of that, the whole forum started to doubt the sincerity of EVERY female member, including me (lulz, because I'm not a camwhore and don't go "I ARE FEMALE TELL ME I'M PRETTY", I was a number one suspect. If only they knew I really was female. :P).

You don't see girls as guys as often. When you do, it's because the girl doesn't want to attract attention to herself and just wants to be treated normally, instead of either with open arms or hostility.

Gem Flower
2008-07-21, 07:36 PM
I'm definitely female.:smallwink: And very glad that there are no pictures of me on the internet, so guys can't pull pictures of me off Facebook, etc. and impersonate me. So I have a general question to the females out there: Where you live, what is the average age to start dating? (I'm trying to figure out if I'm normal-ish in this area.)

Serpentine
2008-07-21, 08:39 PM
Gem, PM Serpy or Syka.
Both 100% girls.150% :smallwink:
Yeah, Gem, I'm available. Interestingly, I think I'm also the oldest of all the ones named...
Age of dating? No idea. I'd guess mostly year 9, so... 14ish? I think that's when I had my first, but I have no idea whether that was "normal" - if anything, it was probably late.

Zarrexaij
2008-07-21, 09:42 PM
It depends on your definition of "date." I started dating when I was around 13-14ish.

Dragonrider
2008-07-21, 09:53 PM
...and I'll be 17 in two weeks and have never actually "dated". :smallwink:

Not that I'm particularly normal around here. Or anywhere. :smalltongue:

Collin152
2008-07-21, 09:57 PM
...and I'll be 17 in two weeks and have never actually "dated". :smallwink:

Not that I'm particularly normal around here. Or anywhere. :smalltongue:

I'll be 17 in five days, and have yet to date.
Mostly because there's nobody to ask out...
Or to ask me out. But that's just semantics.

Or four days, depending on how you count. This Friday.

Serpentine
2008-07-21, 10:02 PM
I should mention, when I say my "first", that was my first "boyfriend" (ha!) of two in high school, and Goff was my third. Also, I believe that first was my only real date date.

Dragonrider
2008-07-21, 10:04 PM
Hooray for almost-twins! :smallbiggrin:
*works out math*
Oh - eleven days, as it turns out! Ten? somewhere thereabouts. Yays!

Collin152
2008-07-21, 10:12 PM
Hooray for almost-twins! :smallbiggrin:
*works out math*
Oh - eleven days, as it turns out! Ten? somewhere thereabouts. Yays!

Yay almost-twins!
Course, there's still tht cute guy who was born just five days before me, so we're closer to being twins...
But then, I think he has dated, so bleh.

What a small world this is. I think I'll dedicate these muffins to you. I'd send you them in a basket, but that's too much work.

Groundhog
2008-07-21, 10:50 PM
I only had my first real date last month, and I'm 19! Of course that was because my HS was a private girls school which didn't allow you to date...

Dragonrider
2008-07-21, 10:55 PM
I only had my first real date last month, and I'm 19! Of course that was because my HS was a private girls school which didn't allow you to date...

Ha. Well, in any case, I'm glad I'm not the only one. Most of the time I don't mind, but sometimes it feels a little weird when all my friends are talking about dating....

DrowVampyre
2008-07-22, 12:15 AM
I'm 22 and have never been on a real "date" date. Partially just cause I'm really shy IRL and incredibly uncomfortable in public, and partially because I just refuse to do the dating scene thing, so my only dating prospects are friends...and most of them don't live in my town. :smallannoyed:

Stormthorn
2008-07-22, 12:31 AM
Dont let it worry you drowvamp.
At least, thats what i tell myself. Sometimes i kick myelf over my lack of experiance but i make up for it by learning from other peoples mistakes.
Only problem is that they usualy dont listen when i try to warn the, before its too late.
Six months ago: And why would i listen to you [Stormthorn]? I blah blah more sex blah blah way more relationships blah. Your a nice guy but blah blah blah.

Now:****, you were right about him all along.

So...um...im not sure were i was going. Oh, yeah. No need to rush, eh.


Wooohooo. My advice was seconded and thirded!
Would that mean my advice to PM Serpentine was a good idea?

Pyrian
2008-07-22, 12:47 AM
Gem, PM Serpy or Syka.
Both 100% girls.
150% :smallwink:
Serpy has three boobs! :smalleek: :smallwink:

Stormthorn
2008-07-22, 12:57 AM
Serpy has three boobs! :smalleek: :smallwink:


Funny, that wasnt what i was thinking made her extra woman. :smallwink:

Serpentine
2008-07-22, 01:09 AM
Nah, they're just 2x the normal size :smallwink: (and the other 50% is a different bit...)

Ranna
2008-07-22, 03:54 AM
@^ I do now have visions of you as some sort of amazonian super woman!!

On dating I had the most retarded childhood dating thing going on ever, my first boy friend was when I was 7 and to impress me he'd eat mud and give me a worm (I don't think I'll ever get over my first :smallamused:) But I haven't ever actually been on a REAL first time pre-boyfriend date thing I've always decided they were my boyfriend first before actually getting courted by them. I was rubbish! Now I consider a meal at Nando's (a rather posh fast food joint) to be a date.

If I could do it again I would have demanded proper dates. I think its good if you wait because you know what you want and don't waste your time.

DigoDragon
2008-07-22, 06:46 AM
I remember my first date, I was 18. My GF at the time missed my lips on our first kiss and hit my nose. :smallredface: I blame my short stature on that, but at least I can look back and laugh.

Ilena
2008-07-22, 07:37 AM
Well, myself im 21 and really dont consider ever being on a date, my ex gf was a coworker and thats basicly how we hooked up, but i have no real interest in dating (nor time, training 2 horses + 8 hour job and having a somewhat social life with friends takes time :P) and id rather be around horses then people most of the time anyway :P

Dragonrider
2008-07-22, 12:55 PM
*sigh*

Yes, once again the guys have hijacked the thread. :smalltongue:

Vaynor
2008-07-22, 02:45 PM
*sigh*

Yes, once again the guys have hijacked the thread. :smalltongue:

Did you actually expect mostly girls to post in "The Girl Thread"? :smalltongue:

Stormthorn
2008-07-22, 02:55 PM
Yes, once again the guys have hijacked the thread.

Victory! Perhaps us guys posting here are just really effeminate?

@Vaynor, Crixon, Digo, Collin: Hey! Are you guys really effiminate?

Player_Zero
2008-07-22, 03:07 PM
Wait, wait, wait. We're talking about how sad we are? Excellent!

I'm unlikely to have ever met the eyes of a girl. Any contact I may ever have experienced was undoubtedly purely accidental.

...Good ol' being a whiney plaintive idiot...

Also, hurray for hijacking! ...Maybe if someone made a guys thread. We could talk about... Girls... And cars... And things.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-22, 03:13 PM
Average age for your dad to take you fishing......

CurlyKitGirl
2008-07-22, 03:22 PM
Curly...you have the awesomest avatars known to humankind. And then some. :smallbiggrin:

It's true. One Shakespearian actor referencing Hamlet and The Scottish Play and me additionally referencing two of Shakespeare's most famous speeches. Both from Henry V.
Fine literature in avatar form.
It is awesome.


...and I'll be 17 in two weeks and have never actually "dated". :smallwink:

Not that I'm particularly normal around here. Or anywhere. :smalltongue:

Ditto.
17. Never dated. Never even been asked out except by the usual asses 'asking the geek out for a joke'. Never actually answered any of them.

@DRider: Aren't we the almost - twins?

Dragonrider
2008-07-22, 03:53 PM
Personality-wise? Definitely. Birthday-wise? I don't know your birthday so I don't know. :smalltongue:

CurlyKitGirl
2008-07-22, 04:03 PM
I was seventeen four months ago tomorrow.
You are seventeen in about eight days?

Lissou
2008-07-22, 04:28 PM
I'm 23 and didn't kiss before I was 19. When I did, then, it wasn't willingly (the guy forced a kiss on me, and I haed him for a while, but now I don't really care anymore).
I asked guys out before that but always got a no. Never been asked out, but more than once realised that a guy liked me but was too shy to ask. Stupid guys.

I'm happily married now though so I don't care anymore :P

Castaras
2008-07-22, 04:32 PM
Never even been asked out except by the usual asses 'asking the geek out for a joke'. Never actually answered any of them.


Oh finally...I find out I'm not the only one who gets this...

Or the guys doing the "Hey, he fancies you" gag, that they find find hilarious. Or the "Hey look, there's your girlfriend" lameass joke.

Yesterday even, I had some Year freaking 7s(I'm year 10. Aka, 3 years older than them.) asking me stuff that is not forum friendly. -_- Too pathetic to even dirty my glance by looking at them.

Player_Zero
2008-07-22, 04:40 PM
I asked guys out before that but always got a no. Never been asked out, but more than once realised that a guy liked me but was too shy to ask. Stupid guys.


Eye-narrowing is now in order. Very much so.

I suppose I must be a stupid guy.

Also, it ain't just 'he fancies you', there is a 'she fancies you' method.

...Wait a second... I mean girls being just as mean. That's the one.

Calamity
2008-07-22, 04:46 PM
Eye-narrowing is now in order. Very much so.

I suppose I must be a stupid guy.

Also, it ain't just 'he fancies you', there is a 'she fancies you' method.

...Wait a second... Not calling people gay, I mean girls being just as mean.

I have far too much in common with you. It's scary. :smalltongue:

Player_Zero
2008-07-22, 04:50 PM
Then let us run away together and join the circus.

Anyway, that's enough of me being bitter and annoying for one day. Continue your converation like it never happened.

Dragonrider
2008-07-22, 04:55 PM
Curly -

Seventeen on the first. Close enough. :smallbiggrin:

YPU
2008-07-22, 05:11 PM
I suppose I must be a stupid guy.

Also, it ain't just 'he fancies you', there is a 'she fancies you' method.

...Wait a second... I mean girls being just as mean. That's the one.

He, yea I know that happened to often to me as well.
On a different note, kissing, I don’t think I really missed it before I did it. (which was at the age of 15, all the credit go’s to my girlfriend there)
But let me give some experience from the male side of the fence (or ditch, yea I’m pretty sure it’s a ditch) I did not know I loved my girlfriend when she asked me, heck I did not know she fancied me at all, to be honest I said yes because I was to dumpsmaked shocked by it to say no. and I wont regret it at all. Also, if you feel shy there is no shame in a letter or event email or msn, that lowers the awkward line a little, tough those thing could fall in the wrong hands.

Player_Zero
2008-07-22, 05:15 PM
Huh. Ya' know, that just made me look at my MSN contact list. I have 12 contacts and they're all guys.

Also, I hope everyone who is loved gets run over by a bus or something. Honestly, you're bringing me down.


...So... I hear you people have cooties.

FoE
2008-07-22, 05:19 PM
I lost my virginity before I kissed a girl. I guess that's what happens when your dad's idea of "bonding" is taking you to whorehouses. :smalltongue:

Destro_Yersul
2008-07-22, 05:20 PM
Huh. Ya' know, that just made me look at my MSN contact list. I have 12 contacts and they're all guys.

Also, I hope everyone who is loved gets run over by a bus or something. Honestly, you're bringing me down.


...So... I hear you people have cooties.

Loved at all, or loved by a girlfriend? Cause if it's the latter I get to avoid being hit by the high speed sardine cans that pass for public transit around here.

Destro is far too eccentric and reclusive to have a girlfriend. The last time he was outside at the same time as the sun was... probably six months ago. Somewhere around there.

Scorpina
2008-07-22, 05:21 PM
I lost my virginity before I kissed a girl. I guess that's what happens when your dad's idea of "bonding" is taking you to whorehouses. :smalltongue:

I lost my virginity before I kissed a boy, actually. Slightly different, circumstance wise, though.

Destro_Yersul
2008-07-22, 05:26 PM
Oh, and while we're on the subject of virginities, I've still got mine. Don't know what's with all you people losing them all the time. You should put them somewhere safe, so you don't misplace them as much. :smalltongue:

FoE
2008-07-22, 05:35 PM
I lost my virginity before I kissed a boy, actually. Slightly different, circumstance wise, though.

Ah. I see. It's a 'Katy Perry' thing, is it?

In fairness, I can also say I lost my virginity before I kissed a boy as well. :smalltongue:

Scorpina
2008-07-22, 05:37 PM
Ah. I see. It's a 'Katy Perry' thing, is it?

That rather depends who she is.

Pyrian
2008-07-22, 05:48 PM
I asked guys out before that but always got a no. Never been asked out, but more than once realised that a guy liked me but was too shy to ask. Stupid guys.

I'm happily married now though so I don't care anymore :P
...Well, I guess that shows that asking people out is relatively pointless. You're married and never managed to get a date either way!

CurlyKitGirl
2008-07-22, 05:58 PM
Oh finally...I find out I'm not the only one who gets this...

Or the guys doing the "Hey, he fancies you" gag, that they find find hilarious. Or the "Hey look, there's your girlfriend" lameass joke.

Yesterday even, I had some Year freaking 7s(I'm year 10. Aka, 3 years older than them.) asking me stuff that is not forum friendly. -_- Too pathetic to even dirty my glance by looking at them.

Exactly!
One twerp who 'asked me out' was the local JerkJock who has for a fact slept with at least ten girls and, more than rumour has it he got an STD. I hope it was one of the more visible and distressing kinds.
Petty vengeance aside, we 'dated' for five minutes before I was 'dumped'. You know what I was doing?
Reading. He asked me; I said nothing. He obviously thought it meant 'Hell yes!' an then said, 'Sorry, it won't work out' Didn't even realise I was in a relationship.

Freaky younglings time:
I've been harrassed by some druggy Y10 for oh, two, three years now. And even the mldest thing he's said would get me insta-banned.
Insta-banned.
The only reason he's not got ASBOs over this (aside from the fact he lives one house to the left of me in the terrace behind our house so it wouldn't work) or been sent juvie is Mum. She thinks it's his girfriend getting him on drugs and stuff.
So I ignore him. Or I'm off in y own world anyway.
Me = suspected Aspie.
Me = uncaring anyway.

@DRider: love the avvie; and *notes down BDay for thread making*

EDIT:
I have just decided that my ideal boy/girlfriend would have to be geeky enough to love listening to songs taken from cartoons adapted from books. Because.
*listens to the song again*

Scorpina
2008-07-22, 06:05 PM
A high school boys; I remember them. In my day rumours abounded about me being, 'the school bike' I believe was the term. There was also presistant implication that I was in a lesbian relationship with the headmistress. Morons.

...not saying that it was all totally groundless, but they were still asshats.

Collin152
2008-07-22, 06:05 PM
Victory! Perhaps us guys posting here are just really effeminate?

@Vaynor, Crixon, Digo, Collin: Hey! Are you guys really effiminate?

Yeeeeep.
If those European scientists were right, my brain more resembles that of a female anyways.

YPU
2008-07-22, 07:11 PM
That rather depends who she is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katy_Perry
wikipedia is your friend, in a useful book kind of way, scorpina your posts are hot enough as it is, no book/site fesishes needed.

Zarrexaij
2008-07-22, 07:22 PM
I don't even know what people said about me behind my back. I don't even want to know. Most people thought I was crazy, though. Which I am, just in the artist sort of way, not the "People have restraining orders on me and I don't take my antipsychotics" kind of crazy.

Gem Flower
2008-07-22, 07:51 PM
I've been catching up on what people said on my question about dating ages. I feel...hopeless.:smallfrown::smallwink:

Groundhog
2008-07-22, 08:01 PM
Don't. If you feel that you're incredibly old for not having dated yet, just remember that fooling around with guys can be detrimental to future relationships. If you feel that you've jumped in too early, just remember that a little experience can be helpful later on. I know I've just contradicted myself. The point is not to feel bad.

Gem Flower
2008-07-22, 08:03 PM
I'm totally not worried about it yet. But my school starts dances and stuff next year, and people actually start dating. *sigh* Middle school is complicated.

Dragonrider
2008-07-23, 12:02 AM
@DRider: love the avvie

:smallbiggrin: sankoo.


*notes down BDay for thread making*

& sankoo again! :smallsmile:


GemFlower: You're only in middle school? Eh, you've got all the time in the world. I remember being 13 or so and being petrified that a) I would never find anyone to love, and b) even if I did, they would never feel the same way about me.

Well, since then I have experienced various feelings for various males (some more strongly than others) and none of them (to my knowledge) have felt that way about me (or if they did, it clearly wasn't enough). At the moment I haven't got anyone and I have never so much as held hands with a boy. I mean, I have, but not romantically. So there are days when I regret it but mostly I figure it'll come along when it's time.

*is optimistic at the moment*

*will be caught up in self-hate and angst tomorrow* :smallwink:

Kai
2008-07-23, 12:33 AM
...Maybe if someone made a guys thread. We could talk about... Girls... And cars... And things.

+1 ...wait...were just joking there?


<snip>

Just had to say, this is my first time seeing your little sig voodoo dolls and they are adorable! Love, love, love! http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/Smileys/default/love.gif


...So... I hear you people have cooties.

Yep. http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif Big ones.


I'm totally not worried about it yet. But my school starts dances and stuff next year, and people actually start dating. *sigh* Middle school is complicated.

I feel you there...even though that time for me seems ages ago.

I remember thinking when I got to Jr. High "Dances? Dating?! Yikes! I'm not sure I'm old enough for this yet." If I recall correctly, there was more group dating sort of things at that age, at least for me, real "dates" didn't happen till...um...9th-10th grade?

Pyrian
2008-07-23, 02:14 AM
I remember being 13 or so and being petrified that a) I would never find anyone to love, and b) even if I did, they would never feel the same way about me.
I'm 34 and still feel that way. :smallfrown:

Quincunx
2008-07-23, 04:01 AM
On class composition: What is the female:male ratio in your academically advanced classes? What is the freethinking female:obedient female ratio within those same classes?

I came from what I now realize was an anomaly in my first high school; our top tier fluctuated between twenty and twenty-five students, and the ratio was 4:1. In algebra (that's math, people) it spiked to 6.5:1 due to odd scheduling. Moreover, the freethinkers were almost equal in number to the obedient girls who simply turned in all homework assignments and never raised their hand in class. We had classicists, a conspiracy theorist, a nascent engineer, practicioner pre-meds, researcher pre-meds. . .

. . .so it broke my heart to change schools and find the ratios dwindled to 3:1 (English) and degraded to 1:4 (chemistry) in lots of 30. What was maybe worse, the freethinkers of the top tier were nearly extinct. There were glimmers of hope, but they were future lawyers. Also there was a determined civil engineer, yet all she wished to do was return home and help rebuild her country; her daughters won't be influencing that school district. The valedictorian was an obedient female.

On virginity: I removed my own hymen so I wouldn't have to bother with all the judgments. It worked.

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 04:28 AM
Oh finally...I find out I'm not the only one who gets this...

Or the guys doing the "Hey, he fancies you" gag, that they find find hilarious. Or the "Hey look, there's your girlfriend" lameass joke.

Yesterday even, I had some Year freaking 7s(I'm year 10. Aka, 3 years older than them.) asking me stuff that is not forum friendly. -_- Too pathetic to even dirty my glance by looking at them.Year 7, at a whole new school in a whole new town =.= Something about "What's that? You like someone over there? Hey, Serp's over there! He likes Serp! Hey, you two should go out! Wanna go out with him, Serp? Here, you sit down there together. Aww, they're going out. Go on, hold hands!" ...He was talking about someone else :smallsigh: 9.9 I don't even know who it was... Lets just say, I was hella pleased when I got kicked outa the "cool" group :smallwink:
On talking behind backs: A friend of a friend of mine, from another town and a year below, came to our school for a bit. According to him, the word about town was that one friend was gay (duh), one came to school every day stoned (she did smoke, but it turns out the red eyes was because she had blephiritis or something like that, infected eye dandruff, and she just always acted like that), and the third was a "lesbian Nazi". I didn't even get a mention :smallfrown:

On virginity: Kept it 'til after high school. That'll do, y' perverts :smalltongue:

Ilena
2008-07-23, 06:25 AM
Originally Posted by Stormthorn
Victory! Perhaps us guys posting here are just really effeminate?

@Vaynor, Crixon, Digo, Collin: Hey! Are you guys really effiminate?

Yeeeeep.
If those European scientists were right, my brain more resembles that of a female anyways.

Possible for myself as well, i mean what guys hate cars and sports, love horses more then anything in the world? :P

Oh and good morning everyone!

DigoDragon
2008-07-23, 06:51 AM
Victory! Perhaps us guys posting here are just really effeminate?

@Vaynor, Crixon, Digo, Collin: Hey! Are you guys really effiminate?

I cried watching the movie Wall-E, does that count?

I dunno, I didn't mean to hijack the thread. :mitd: In school I always hung out with the girls and got into their conversations way more then the guys. I'm not much into sports and hot cars really.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-23, 06:59 AM
I'm a loner..... Usually.

Group I hung out with was 3-4 guys(Including me) and 2 girls usually. Or one or two guys and me. Or alooone.


I'm a rogue.... I'm too good at hiding...

dish
2008-07-23, 07:13 AM
I'm sure we agreed that the guys could post here as long as they were sensible and sensitive about it.

Gem Flower: I spent my entire secondary school career (I'm British, and in my day secondary school went from 11 to 18) terrified about dating. I was sure I'd never fall in love, never find anyone who would love me, or even find me attractive. As I got older (15-18) I did go out on 'dates' with boys ... boys that I wasn't attracted to and didn't even particularly like. I did this purely to stop myself from feeling like a social misfit. I did it to prove to my classmates that the 'geeky' girl could get a date and wasn't a complete loss. But then I spent all those dates being a) totally bored and b) pushing away wandering hands and fighting off 'deflowering' attempts.

I really don't know what I can say to you. For me being a teenager really, really, really sucked. It didn't get better until I was 18. When I was 18 I got to leave home, go to university, meet lots of interesting, intelligent and attractive people, fall in love (falling in love the way a stone plunges to the bottom of the Marianus trench), and lose my virginity in the correct way (that's happily, with the right guy at the right time, no pressure or stress from either of you).

Umm...keep going, keep surviving. It will eventually get better.

Jibar
2008-07-23, 07:19 AM
I've always had more girl friends than female friends.
I just prefer the female of the species. They're just nicer. And tend to like musicals as much as me.
And because this seems kinda appropriate;
This is the wall beside my bed. (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/Jibar/TheWall.jpg) Shows just how many female friends I do have.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-23, 07:21 AM
Either you're way social or you're heading down the other path.....

That was probably insensitive(Gah, can't even spell it right) or something.

I'l go back to lurk mode......

[Lurk]

CurlyKitGirl
2008-07-23, 09:54 AM
@dish: I spent my entire secondary school career (11-16 no sixth forms for me) having more male friends than femal friends. I think I had six good female friends, then one went to college, so five. And about three times that good male friends.
And one introdued me to Top Gear so I'm forever grateful.

At the moment I have . . . one very good female friend, and you get the idea.

About the ratios:
Male:female is either 1:1 (French) up to 6:1 (Mediaeval History).
Freethinking female:obedient female is roughly 3:1 (French once more) to 11:1 (Eng Lit thank Io; and that's all the girls in the class :smallcool:) to 1:2 (Eng Lang).

So, as you can see, I'm fairly lucky.

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 09:56 AM
My maths classes tended towards ∞:1.

That is to say that there weren't any girls.

Physics too.

Ego Slayer
2008-07-23, 10:02 AM
Awww @ Jibar.

Hrm... here's a slightly awkward question which is sort of directed as Serpy-chan . Garter belts. Are there any simple ones that don't totally scream "I'm a kinky slut"? :smalltongue: My problem is that I love skirts, love stockings and such, but would hate wearing tights in the summer, and I sure as hell haven't the build to wear the thigh highs that are supposed to hold them selves up 9_9

*complain*

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 10:09 AM
Who're you calling a kinky slut (http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/serpentine16/photos/garter2.jpg)?! D= :smallannoyed:

Trouble is, for some reason they're innately sexy apparently. I think you might be able to get just the garters that clip onto your underwear, but you'll want some pretty damn sturdy undies. When I was looking for mine, it seemed they all had lace (or were attached to, say, a corset <.<), but there were a few that were relatively thin and subtle. Even mine isn't exactly spectacular. Anyway, it's not as though you'll be showing it off to anyone, so what does it matter? :smallwink:

Ego Slayer
2008-07-23, 10:26 AM
Who're you calling a kinky slut (http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/serpentine16/photos/garter2.jpg)?! D= :smallannoyed:[/url]
At least it's not made out of...like... vinyl. :smallamused:

And... oh, well, yeah... they're teh sexy any way you look at it (literally!). And no... I don't think I'm going to be showing it off. :smalltongue:

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-23, 10:28 AM
And no... I don't think I'm going to be showing it off. :smalltongue:
Damnit.:smalltongue:

RabbitHoleLost
2008-07-23, 11:20 AM
Damnit.:smalltongue:

I second this opinion.
Not even for me, Ego? D=

Ego Slayer
2008-07-23, 11:22 AM
I second this opinion.
Not even for me, Ego? D=
For you? Of course. :smallamused:

*ahem*
Carry on with your normal threadiness.
*leaves*

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 11:40 AM
I'll show you mine if you show me yours :smallwink:

Wait...

Crap.

Ilena
2008-07-23, 11:45 AM
Damnit.:smalltongue:

Sigh, i agree with women when they say men are hopeless :P

Edit - your on serp :P

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 11:53 AM
...You have a garter belt? :smallconfused: That's... good, I guess. Also: indeed :smallsigh:

Ilena
2008-07-23, 12:09 PM
Wait what? Ohhh you thought i ment ... ah your a funny one :P

And what is the purpous of a garter belt anyway?

Dragonrider
2008-07-23, 12:15 PM
Wait what? Ohhh you thought i ment ... ah your a funny one :P

And what is the purpous of a garter belt anyway?

I think it's to keep your tights up.

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 12:15 PM
I like where this thread is headed.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-23, 12:23 PM
Sigh, i agree with women when they say men are hopeless :P
I never denied it! :smalltongue:

Jibar
2008-07-23, 12:28 PM
Awww @ Jibar.

:smallredface:

It's nice to go to bed with a smile.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-23, 12:33 PM
:smallredface:

It's nice to go to bed with a smile.
Either that's a long lasting smile. Or you're going to bed just after I've had dinner.....

Ilena
2008-07-23, 12:39 PM
are you saying you are just having supper now dallas? because eather way its too early for both supper and sleep where i am :P

and why would someone need help keeping their tights (i asume underwear right?) up ...

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 12:43 PM
I think it's to keep your tights up.Thusly (pardon the thigh chub):
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/serpentine16/photos/garter1.jpg
Why yes, I do just have these lying around. Why do you ask? :smallconfused: Look, I was excited cuz I had a new fun item of clothing and was feeling smecksy, okay?! D=

Ilena
2008-07-23, 12:47 PM
Ah so its to hold of the black lace stuff that i cant remember what its called at this time that women wear over their legs? spandex is it?

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 12:48 PM
It's to hold up the stockings that only go to the thigh, as opposed to all the way up.

Ilena
2008-07-23, 12:53 PM
I c, i understand now,thank you,

why do women wear all these complex clothing accessorys i find myself wonderin,

SMEE
2008-07-23, 12:54 PM
Garter belts are sexy. >.>

Definitly sexy... <.<

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 12:55 PM
>waits for FdL to come explain it to the poor naiive lad<

Ilena
2008-07-23, 12:56 PM
Who me? I am a quiet naiive lad, just learning about the wide world and all these things :P quiet innocent at times too!

Dragonrider
2008-07-23, 12:58 PM
and why would someone need help keeping their tights (i asume underwear right?) up ...

tights = stockings. :smalltongue:

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 01:03 PM
I just checked the dictionary and confirmed my suspicion that there is a difference between tights and stockings, thusly:
stocking o n. 1 a woman's garment that fits closely over the foot and leg, typically made of fine knitted nylon yarn, held up by suspenders or an elasticated strip at the upper thigh.
tights o pl. n. a close-fitting garment made of a knitted yarn, covering the legs, hips and bottom.
and while I'm at it...
leggings o pl. n. 1 a woman's tight-fitting stretchy garment covering the legs, hips and bottom.

Ilena
2008-07-23, 01:13 PM
But whats the point in wearing that stuff?

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-23, 01:15 PM
Apparent explenation is below.


Garter belts are sexy. >.>

Definitly sexy... <.<

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 01:16 PM
Well, personally... I like skirts, but I don't like cold. Also there are some cool ones out there.

Ilena
2008-07-23, 01:20 PM
So those legging things are to basicly keep your legs warm?

Serpentine
2008-07-23, 01:21 PM
Practically speaking... yeah. And also to make your legs look better.

Ilena
2008-07-23, 01:42 PM
How does it make your legs look better if you dont mind me asking? To me when i see someone wearing that it makes them look odd, but thats about all,

Gem Flower
2008-07-23, 01:43 PM
It can be an expression of style. One of my friends has these totally insane, mis-matching outfits of which leggings are usually a part.

Ego Slayer
2008-07-23, 01:46 PM
I generally hate being bare-legged. Out of the house, that it. It's not exactly like stockings actually hide anything, but it's still somehow so much better.

Plus, what Bea said. :smalltongue:

And what Serps said. skirts+tights/legging of sorts in winter = winz.

Also, I'd never worn mascara before until recently... and I gotta ask, is there a good way to get it off, or do you just leave it 'til it eventually comes off itself?

Ilena
2008-07-23, 02:00 PM
It can be an expression of style. One of my friends has these totally insane, mis-matching outfits of which leggings are usually a part.

Ah i see, thank you all for explainin it to me :P Best way to learn is to ask i say :P

Scorpina
2008-07-23, 03:01 PM
I generally hate being bare-legged. Out of the house, that it. It's not exactly like stockings actually hide anything, but it's still somehow so much better.

So, wear trousers?


Also, I'd never worn mascara before until recently... and I gotta ask, is there a good way to get it off, or do you just leave it 'til it eventually comes off itself?

I've almost blinded myself with make up remover in the past, so be careful to avoid doing that. Blech.

Lissou
2008-07-23, 03:01 PM
Eye-narrowing is now in order. Very much so.

I suppose I must be a stupid guy.

Also, it ain't just 'he fancies you', there is a 'she fancies you' method.

...Wait a second... I mean girls being just as mean. That's the one.

I didn't mean "stupid guys" in a mean way. I meant "stupid guys" in a "I went through depression because I thought nobody would ever like me and you liked me and never said so or acted in a way that could have made me feel better about myself" way.
I probably would have said yes, too. Neither of them were ugly or stupid or anything, and more importantly, they were all pretty nice. So yeah, it's a shame.

Dragonrider
2008-07-23, 03:09 PM
On stockings vs. tights: OK. I use the terms interchangably but I guess there IS a difference. And for a couple years I predominantly wore skirts and dresses, so they were a must in the winter - I also wore knee-socks (...socks that go up to your knee...) a lot.

On leggings: In the mid-90s they were REALLY popular (especially tucked into tube socks...). I wore them until I hit my dress phase, and even then I often wore them underneath in the winter. I found a picture (scanned, from ~1999) of me at about age eight wearing the craziest ensemble of clashing patterns...but I was so cyooot! :smallamused:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/soggypoptart/jessi6.jpg

On mascara: I don't wear it so I really have no idea. They probably make remover for it? With a cotton ball? this is only from watching my cousin take care of her makeup.

Lissou
2008-07-23, 03:12 PM
...Well, I guess that shows that asking people out is relatively pointless. You're married and never managed to get a date either way!

Actually... Neither of us asked the other out, it's true. He lived in Canada and I lived in France and we liked each other, and made comments about how we'd go out together if we lived in the same country. Then we were talking about getting married.
Seven months later, we met for the first time. We did date from that point on, but never asked each other out in the first place.

Oh, and to those who feel bad, you know, he was 28, and had never kissed, or even held hands, or had a date in any way. And it might still be the case if we hadn't met.
Just because you haven't met someone doesn't mean you won't. You can catch up later ;)

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 03:20 PM
I didn't mean "stupid guys" in a mean way. I meant "stupid guys" in a "I went through depression because I thought nobody would ever like me and you liked me and never said so or acted in a way that could have made me feel better about myself" way.
I probably would have said yes, too. Neither of them were ugly or stupid or anything, and more importantly, they were all pretty nice. So yeah, it's a shame.

Some guys go through the same thing, to be fair. It would be more correct to say 'stupid people'.



Just because you haven't met someone doesn't mean you won't. You can catch up later ;)

Nah, it's the 'being a horrible person' that'll do that.

The Rose Dragon
2008-07-23, 03:23 PM
So, wear trousers?

Sheepy, to the rescue!

Seriously, that comment is made of ten kinds of win.

Also, DR... AWWWWWWWWWW! That is sooooo cute! Can I touch your nose?

Lissou
2008-07-23, 03:37 PM
Some guys go through the same thing, to be fair. It would be more correct to say 'stupid people'.


But in my case, these people were all guys apart from one, and considering that one knew I am straight, she was the only one who had a good reason not to speak up. So yeah, it wasn't meant as a general comment by any stretch of the mind. And of course some girls are the same.

So there, people ask the people you like out! It hurts if they say no, but at least you've tried, and you know it wouldn't have worked. Imagine not asking and realising 10 years after he or she is married that they were also in love with you or something. That would suck.

Stormthorn
2008-07-23, 03:40 PM
Some guys go through the same thing, to be fair. It would be more correct to say 'stupid people'.

Stupid humans.

Collin152
2008-07-23, 03:40 PM
So there, people ask the people you like out! It hurts if they say no, but at least you've tried, and you know it wouldn't have worked. Imagine not asking and realising 10 years after he or she is married that they were also in love with you or something. That would suck.

The people I like are straight.
Check and mate.

The Rose Dragon
2008-07-23, 03:41 PM
Hey, asking them out doesn't work that well, either. I asked nine girls out, with ten rejections (don't ask). I am soooo lonely... :smalltongue:

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 03:45 PM
So turn them gay with that gay-gas I've been hearing so much about.

Also, it's all well and good to say 'take a chance' but people, such as myself, can't take chances due to being terribly, terribly stupid, with more cowardice than that lion from the Wizard of Oz, see.

Stormthorn
2008-07-23, 03:47 PM
The people I like are straight.
Check and mate.

Im sure he is talking about me. :smallwink:

Collin152
2008-07-23, 03:51 PM
Im sure he is talking about me. :smallwink:

I bet you think this song is about you, don't you? Don't you?
You're so vain.

Calamity
2008-07-23, 03:54 PM
Also, it's all well and good to say 'take a chance' but people, such as myself, can't take chances due to being terribly, terribly stupid, with more cowardice than that lion from the Wizard of Oz, see.

Too... much.. in...common.. gah!!! I imagine I would be in one of my current dilemmas if I wasn't as much as a coward as I am.

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 03:59 PM
Where do you live, incidentally? 'Cause I hear that if you kill alternate versions of yourself you gain their power. Like Jet Li in that film.

Dragonrider
2008-07-23, 04:00 PM
Also, DR... AWWWWWWWWWW! That is sooooo cute! Can I touch your nose?

Nose-poking is, I suppose, preferable to cheek-pinching. :smalltongue:

The Rose Dragon
2008-07-23, 04:02 PM
SQUEEEEE!

*touches DR's nose*

Collin152
2008-07-23, 04:04 PM
Where do you live, incidentally? 'Cause I hear that if you kill alternate versions of yourself you gain their power. Like Jet Li in that film.

Is that so?
Hmm...
I need to get to the Hague.

Calamity
2008-07-23, 04:04 PM
Where do you live, incidentally? 'Cause I hear that if you kill alternate versions of yourself you gain their power. Like Jet Li in that film.

As of right now, I live too close to Nottingham. :smalltongue:

Thufir
2008-07-23, 04:30 PM
*Checks map*
About halfway down the country. I'm probably safe. Though if Calamity mysteriously disappears I'm going into hiding.

Collin152
2008-07-23, 04:32 PM
Is this like Heroes?
Is Player Zero Sylar?
Who does that make me?

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 04:40 PM
Sylar, eh? I like the sound of that.

Don't worry. I'll use your power well.

Your death won't be in vain.

It will become part... Of the perfect form. The ultimate. The strongest.

I will cut down the very moon from the sky! All shall fear me and despair. Yes. Your death won't be in vain, my friend.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-23, 04:43 PM
Ok, I think we can say that we, or atleast you guys have hi-jacked the thread now....

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 04:47 PM
Yes, but if anyone complains I will just eat their brain, consuming their power.

Dallas-Dakota
2008-07-23, 04:49 PM
*points to the mods standing over there in a corner, all brandishing their BANhammers...*....

Girly Stuff......

Err......

*flees*

PhoeKun
2008-07-23, 04:53 PM
Ok, boys. Random Banter's over there. *points*

A question, to anyone who knows what I look like (and if you don't, I guess the You thread is over yonder): I've been considering a change in hairstyle, but it occurs to me I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to styling. I'm still trying to grow it longer, but in the meantime, can anyone offer a suggestion as to what I might want to look into?

The Rose Dragon
2008-07-23, 04:58 PM
Cut it short.

I dunno why, but I think short hair would really become you. Whatever that means.

Calamity
2008-07-23, 05:02 PM
Long hair is better. On both males and females.
Hair's annoying though. You can never get the style you want.

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 05:09 PM
Wait, how is long hair better on guys? Sometimes mightn't it not look ridiculous and coarse, giving the appearance of a boorish gent?

Also, made a guy thread. Take that! :smalltongue:

Collin152
2008-07-23, 05:13 PM
Long hair and guys almost certainly do not mix well.
I prefer guys with short, blonde hair...
Hmm...
Well, there goes my day's allotment of thoughts.

Lyesmith
2008-07-23, 05:14 PM
I had long hair but it honest to god earned me more hassle than it was worth. I look better with it short, I think.

Calamity
2008-07-23, 05:15 PM
Long hair and guys almost certainly do not mix well.
I prefer guys with short, blonde hair...
Hmm...
Well, there goes my day's allotment of thoughts.

Well short hair and me do not mix well.

I agree it is a bit of a hassle though.

Lissou
2008-07-23, 05:26 PM
Depends on people, really. You can have a short hair face, a long hair face or a face that works with both (or neither I guess, then you have bigger problems I'd say).

Short hair works better for me, and even people who like long hair on women usually agree. Long hair works better for some men. That's how it is.

I think if you're lazy, long hair isn't for you. It takes a lot of time to keep it normal looking, if you don't spend the time you just look like a hobo.

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 05:29 PM
I'm too lazy to go to the freakin' barbers to get my hair cut anyway. Well... Not really laziness, more of being too afraid of the outdoors, but the mechanism is the same.

Also, I wash my hair several times a day... Kinda' weird.

Lyesmith
2008-07-23, 05:31 PM
I do mine every other day or every two, at the very least. But it has gone unwashed for longer if I'm sick.
Overwashing hair is very bad for it.

Collin152
2008-07-23, 05:32 PM
I don't like my hair.
I'd like it better if I could see it better.
Mirrors don't help.
For one, they talk back at me too much.

Don't get me wrong, I love hair. Just not my own.
So I keep it bland.

Dihan
2008-07-23, 05:33 PM
I use shampoo every day and conditioner every other.

Player_Zero
2008-07-23, 05:33 PM
Bad, eh? Would you say that it's evil?

...What about stuffed animals? They're girly, right?