How can this be abused?

[Leicontis]

One of the things I liked in 4E was the ability of wizards to cast cantrips at-will. My question is this: Other than Cure Minor Wounds, what 0th-level spells could be abused if not limited in quantity, and how? Ray of Frost and Acid Splash are out, because it's a lot easier to use Eldritch Blast for those applications.

[Draz74]

Create Water.

[Tempest Fennac]

How can Create water be abused unless enemies are trapped inside a watertight room or if your fighting Fire elementals? Ghost Sound could be abused a lot, and Message could be used to make people think they are going mad.

[Cuddly]

How can Create water be abused unless enemies are trapped inside a watertight room or if your fighting Fire elementals? Ghost Sound could be abused a lot, and Message could be used to make people think they are going mad.

Create Water means everything anywhere is always wet. Think about how much stuff you'd like to keep dry. Now it's wet. At 200 gallons/minute

[Tempest Fennac]

Would making things wet have any mechanical beenfits excluding creating swamps and (possibly) lakes?

[Cute_Riolu]

Use your imagination. :P

[Reinboom]

repair minor damage can be abused.

[Tempest Fennac]

Could Create Water be used to rust people's equipment, or would it take longer then a few seconds for that to happen?

[Draz74]

How can Create water be abused unless enemies are trapped inside a watertight room or if your fighting Fire elementals?

Not-in-combat, that's how. (Heck, even Cure Minor Wounds at-will isn't going to hurt anything in combat.)

A high-level cleric creating a lake in minutes. A small team of mid-level Clerics flooding entire dungeons in the course of a couple days. Adding yet another terrible inconsistency to the mess that is D&D Economy.

("Yup, it started with just the gnomish pantheon, but now every temple in the land is also a hydroelectric power plant ... all the Clerics, in all their spare time, when they used to pray, go upstairs and Create Water into the turbines ...")

[quiet1mi]

most objects take full damage from acid damage [in 3.5 not sure in 4e] so acid splash can destroy most objects with enough time...

[Draz74]

most objects take full damage from acid damage [in 3.5 not sure in 4e] so acid splash can destroy most objects with enough time...

Hardness still protects them. Acid (and sonic) only do "full damage" in comparison with other energy types, which get divided by two or four before the hardness kicks in.

So anything with 3+ Hardness will never be destroyed by a series of Acid Splashes.

[Tempest Fennac]

Couldn't the water potentially leave the dungeon unless it's fully watertight, though? Admittedly, it would get to a point when it wouldn't be able to seep out due to the ground around it becoming waterlogged.

[Project_Mayhem]

Create Water.

Hot and Cold, Hot AND Cold. And a combination of the two I like to call HOLD

[KillianHawkeye]

I thought the typical abuse of Create Water was to spam it above somebody's head so they can't get a word in edge-wise. Also, if they're a spellcaster, they have to make Concentration checks. :smallwink:

[Yehomer]

Hardness still protects them. Acid (and sonic) only do "full damage" in comparison with other energy types, which get divided by two or four before the hardness kicks in.

So anything with 3+ Hardness will never be destroyed by a series of Acid Splashes.

Doesn't hardness apply only to physical damage (slashing, piercing, bludging etc.)?

[Ned the undead]

Doesn't hardness apply only to physical damage (slashing, piercing, bludging etc.)?

Yeah.
At least I'm pretty sure.

[Curmudgeon]

Doesn't hardness apply only to physical damage (slashing, piercing, bludging etc.)? Not according to the rules:
Hardness

Each object has hardness—a number that represents how well it resists damage. Whenever an object takes damage, subtract its hardness from the damage. Only damage in excess of its hardness is deducted from the object’s hit points (see Table: Common Armor, Weapon, and Shield Hardness and Hit Points; Table: Substance Hardness and Hit Points; and Table: Object Hardness and Hit Points). Hardness applies to damage, without limitation.

[hamishspence]

Adamantine ignores hardness less than 20 (oddly, in Elder Evils it appears to be treated as ignoring the hardness of a hardness 30 item. Pandorym battle)

Mace of ruin, an epic handbook item, ignores hardness.

Angelwing Razor, a major artifact in Vile Darkness, ignores hardness.

[Kurald Galain]

Doesn't hardness apply only to physical damage (slashing, piercing, bludging etc.)?

No, that's damage reduction.

[mikeejimbo]

Preserve Organ. I believe it's from the BoVD. Either way, you could preserve, well, a lot of organs.

Or are we going by core cantrips/orisons?