EXTENDED! Iron Avatarist -- Halloween Contest!

[Roland St. Jude]

Welcome to...
Iron Avatarist

Our judges will be Sneak, Roland St. Jude, Tin Soldier, The Vorpal Tribble, and Hawkeye
(The final lineup subject to change.)

This week's theme is...

Halloween

That means you will be "dressing up" yourself, another board member, or an OotS character for Halloween. And if there's any other miscellaneous Halloween themed drawings you want to do, there's a category for that, too. Of course, all entries should be entirely your own work - altering images created by others is still against both contest and forum rules!

And of course, there is going to be a First through Third place of the following:

Best Halloween Costume
Best Group in Costume (1 Person = Group)
Best OotS Character in Costume
Best OotS Group in Costume
Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing


There can be only one…Best Overall award.

And, of course, the Roland’s Choice Award will go to the avatarist's creation that most appeals to my, admittedly whimsical, sensibilities.

Every entry must include a bolded introduction as to what category you are trying to enter in.

Every entry must include a bolded introduction as to what your entry is.

For example:
Best Halloween Costume
Roland as The Headless Horseman
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/RolandStJ/thHalloween_roland2.gif
(Image by Chris the Pontifex, who may enter this if he wants to.)

Only the avatarist who created the avatar may submit it.
However, you may submit old creations as long as they have never been entered into an Iron Avatar Thread before. *It does not have to be something made specifically for this thread.

All entries must be completed by Tuesday November 14, at 12 midnight EST. *That is Tuesday evening, Wednesday morning at midnight U.S. Eastern Standard Time.

[Roland St. Jude]

FYI - I'm going to be out of touch for a couple days, so if you have any questions I'll answer them when I get back. Enjoy!

[Bookman]

Ooooooooo this one is just plain nifty ;D

I hope Ceika enters the one she made for me......it's really cool ;D

And she has so many good creations........

and in case she reads this and wants permission.......I give it :)

[ElfLad]

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Drawing

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g144/AngryBalrog/wwv.gif

[tape_measure]

Best Halloween Costume
Jackmann as Mark Twain

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/tapemeasure/Bmann-1.gif

much better looking

[Beleriphon]

Best Halloween Costume
Brain in a Jar in a Cap'n Jack Sparrow Costume

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/beleriphon/Avatars/brain_in_a_jar_pirate.gif

Best OotS Character in Costume
Roy going out as Hellboy

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/beleriphon/Avatars/roy-as-hellboy.gif

Best OotS Character in Costumer
Haley as Wonder Woman

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/beleriphon/Avatars/haley-as-wonderwoman.gif

Best OotS Character in Costume
Elan as Alan Scott aka The Green Lantern

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/beleriphon/Avatars/elan-as-alan-scott.gif

For elan here those not familiar with Alan Scott here's a reference pic from Wikipedia (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Alan_scott-ross.jpg)

[Flabbicus]

Best Miscellaneous Avatar
Shadowy Figure

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8610/shadowsl4.gif

[DArKandEViL]

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing
Miscallaneous Dead hand
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/Ambientmagic/Grave.gif

[Ego Slayer]

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing
Miscallaneous Dead hand
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/Ambientmagic/Grave.gif


That is awesome. ;D

[The_Losar]

Best Halloween Costume
My Evil Twin (You can tell because he has a goatee)
Ignore Gently (my dog), as it's not intended as a group. Still, he is feeling the spirit.

http://genericlosar.net/avatars/evilmuffinani.gif

Best OOTS Character in Costume
Belkar as Charlie Brown
Text is allowed, right?

http://genericlosar.net/avatars/belkarbrown.gif

[Suicidal-Rabbit]

Best Halloween Costume :
Suicidal-Rabbit's zombie as Gene Simmons of Kiss
http://homepage.mac.com/nicolas.small/Sites/zombie-kiss2.png

[Ego Slayer]

Losar - Nice job on Belkar. ;D

[Jibar]

Best Miscellaneous Avatar
Shadowy Figure

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8610/shadowsl4.gif

With those eyes and colour...if you change it just a bit, you could have Venom from Spiderman.


Best OotS Character in Costume
Roy going out as Hellboy

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/beleriphon/Avatars/roy-as-hellboy.gif


Roy as Hellboy is awesome mixed with win.

[Abardam]

Best OotS Character in Costume
Belkar as Yikyik
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f350/abardam/ootshalloween.png
...what?

[Gengy]

Here, for those of you that don't know me, is my normal avatar:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/waywordfool/OotS%20Avatars/GerbilLeader.gif

And here is:

Best Halloween Costume
Undead Gengy

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/waywordfool/OotS%20Avatars/HalloweenGerbloid.gif

Heh. I was doing this anyways. But now I get to enter it. Yay!

Oh, and something I did LAST year for BingoBob:

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing
Jack Skellington

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/waywordfool/OotS%20Avatars/JSkellington.gif

(p.s. On an unrelated note, I still have some halloween avatars for certain persons who asked me to make them last year. If you want them again, please PM me, and I'll give you the link.)

[Flabbicus]

With those eyes and colour...if you change it just a bit, you could have Venom from Spiderman.



True.

Let's see if I could faithfully represent him...

*Goes to work*

[blackfox]

Best OotS Character in Costume
The Creature in the Darkness as BlackFox
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l32/BlackFox3/CreatureintheDark.gif

[Tomb_Raven]

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j194/Tomb_Raven/grave2.gif

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j194/Tomb_Raven/scaredv2v2.gif

Raven

[ElfLad]

Best OotS Group in Costume

Miko and Belkar as Belkar and Miko

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g144/AngryBalrog/bandm.gif

[TinSoldier]

Best OotS Group in Costume

Miko and Belkar as Belkar and Miko

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g144/AngryBalrog/bandm.gif
:o ::) :D ;D

Love it!

[Roland St. Jude]

I did not see that one coming. :) Very nice.

[Ego Slayer]

As the President of the ElfLad fan club I'd like to say: That. Is. Awesome! ;D

[Chris the Pontifex]

really good ;D ^^^

now for my entry's
Best Halloween Costume
Roland as The Headless Horseman
http://tinyurl.com/ozwgh

Best Halloween Costume
CtP in a Vampirical Pose
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/chrishattink/Pontifex_vampire.gif

Maybe I'll do some OOTS later on

[ElfLad]

Best Halloween Costume: Vorpal Tribble as a Beholder

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g144/AngryBalrog/vtb.gif

And don't hate me too much, but

Zombie Rock Star as Kurt Cobain

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g144/AngryBalrog/zCobain.gif

*runs away*

[Ego Slayer]

I really like the one for Zombie.

Sheesh, I really need to get started on something.

[The_Losar]

Best OOTS Group in Costume
Roy, Celia, Belkar, and Possibly Xykon as Ash, Sheila, a Mini-Evil-Ash, and some random skeleton's head from Army of Darkness

http://genericlosar.net/avatars/aodgroup.gif

Also, not an entry but for general use, a proper avatar-size version of Roy and Celia.

http://genericlosar.net/avatars/aodroycelia.gif

EDIT: Reference Picture. (http://genericlosar.net/images/aodlogo.jpg)

[rellyjean]

The_Losar: hail to the king, baby! ;)

[Simius]

Best OotS Character in Constume:

Elan dressed up (or undressed up, rather) as an Invisible Stalker
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8851/elanhm8.gif

(edit: new version)

[Gerrtt]

Best OotS Character in Constume:

Elan dressed up (or undressed up, rather) as an Invisible Stalker
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8851/elanhm8.gif

(edit: new version)


Until I post something of my own, probably in the next few days, this one has my vote for sheer comedic value!

[Gorbash Kazdar]

I'll throw my (cunning) hat in the ring with a couple I did a while ago.

Best Character
Gorbash as Han Solo
http://www.gorbashkazdar.com/gorbashsolo.gif

Best Character
Gorbash as Jayne Cobb
http://www.gorbashkazdar.com/gorbashjayne.gif
"A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything." - Hoban "Wash" Washburne

[ElfLad]

Gorbash so totally shot first.

[Shiny, Bearer of the Pokystick]

Gorbash so totally shot first.

Indeed he did.

I was kind of hoping for Gorbash as Gorbash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Knight), however.

[DarkCorax]

My entrees:

Best Halloween Costume:
My Avatar For Halloween
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/Darkcorax/KyreHalloween2.gif

Best OotS Characters in Costume

Best OotS Character in Costume:
Elan as an animated sheet (Ghost)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/Darkcorax/ElanGhost.gif

Best OotS Character in Costume:
Xykon as Angel
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/Darkcorax/XykonAngel.gif

[Lykan]

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing
The Halloween Party

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/ChimeraHybrid/My%20avis/HalloweenParty2.png

A Werewolf Rogue, Vampire Fighter, Mummy Cleric, and Witch Sorcerer.

[hyikim]

now would be the best time for Elan to be dressed as nale and Nale to be dressed as Elan

[ElfLad]

Best OotS Group in Costume

Roy as Short Round and Sabine as Indiana Jones

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g144/AngryBalrog/indy.gif

[Gorbash Kazdar]

Indeed he did.

I was kind of hoping for Gorbash as Gorbash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Knight), however.
I still have time ;)

[Ego Slayer]

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing
"Necromancy by moonlight"
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5895/witchia333sw2.gif

[Serpentine]

Love the dress! Wish I could buy it.
I'm thinking of Halloweening-up some of my Spaceballs characters from the SciFi one. Any ideas?

[Death, your friend the Reaper]

I would love to see Chris enter mine if he is around. It is probably my favourite one of all time. I am going to keep it up for all of November, and I will make sure to feed it each day.

But if Chris is lurking, and he wants to, I think entering Death's Halloween costume on Halloween (where I plan to reveal Chris's masterpiece anyway) would be a great idea.

On a side not, the ones posted are brilliant indeed.

[Serpentine]

Best OOTS Character in Costume
The Thing in the Shadows as a Goth
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/serpentine16/Iron%20Avatarist%20Entries/gothshadowthing.jpg

[Roland St. Jude]

SPECIAL NOTE: The deadline for this contest has been extended to November 14 at Midnight. (Tuesday night/Wednesday morning).

Though Halloween is Tuesday, I figured a little extra time might be nice following the shutdown and messageboard changes.

[Ego Slayer]

Ooh good. This means I don't have to race to resize my entry. Toooo big. O.O

Serpentine - I like that! :D

[Serpentine]

Aw shucks. Huzzah for extension!

[Dispozition]

May I just say, before I enter my two avatars...Gorbash wins...Hands down...Jayne cannot be beaten! And Ego takes the prize for that witch she conjured up...That's awesome...

Now...

Best Halloween Costume
Town Dis Dressed as a Skeleton
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i119/Dispozition/DisHalloween.gif

Best Halloween Costume
Rydia as a Fairy
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i119/Dispozition/rydiahalloween1.gif

Gah! I totally forgot about Gez's!!!

Best Halloween Costume
Gez as a Vampire
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i119/Dispozition/gezinawerefoxvampire.gif

Hopefully Roland won't mind me posting this here seeing as I tiold him I would...

Best Halloween Costume
Roland St. Jude as (Vampire Hunter) D
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i119/Dispozition/RolandDhalloween.gif

[DArKandEViL]

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing
"Necromancy by moonlight"
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5895/witchia333sw2.gif

darn, DARN, I hate you, okay, just kidding, but Thats very good.... Too good.

[Roland St. Jude]

I know the holiday is over now, but this contest is running just a bit longer whilst the board upgrade is finishing up. So...any lingering Halloween ideas?

[Death, your friend the Reaper]

Pixie wings. Now that would be pure genius.

[Serpentine]

Still wanting to Halloween-up a Spaceball or something, but I really should get off this forum and finish this damnable assignment and I can't think of anything anyways.
I see what you mean about the pixie wings, Death, they're very fetching on you.

[Ishukira]

Best OotS Character in Costume
Belkar as Ghostface:
http://www.geocities.com/mkpurdue007/belkar.gif

This is my first post, sadly.

[Serpentine]

Hm. Maybe if you gave him a second sicle to wave threateningly, it'd be easier to tell it's Belkar? Looks awesome, anyway.

[Ishukira]

A second sicle? Yes, I suppose that would make more sense... Mayhaps I'll shrink them too, for effect...

Unfortunately, I'm on my laptop, and I left my belkar at home. *sigh* For now I'll just work on other avatars.

[Serpentine]

Couldn't you just copy it from your post onto your laptop?

[Ishukira]

lol I'm an idiot. Yes, yes I could. Forgive me, but school sucks out my IQ points. Don't go to a community college, people. I shall do so now.

...

Here we go!

Best OotS Character in Costume
http://www.geocities.com/mkpurdue007/belkarghost.jpg
Belkar as Ghostface from Scream

[Chris the Pontifex]

Pixie wings. Now that would be pure genius.

yeah youre right, however I didnt want to spoil it and was on vacation last week. yay, go extention!

best costume
Death, your friend the Reaper as Death, your Godmother the Fairy
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/chrishattink/other/Halloween_death.gif

[DarkCorax]

Best Halloween Costume
Fallen Angel Costume
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/Darkcorax/Fallen-Angel.gif

[Lykan]

Best Halloween Costume
Me as a Vampire

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/ChimeraHybrid/My%20avis/LykanVampireupgrade.gif

Best Oots Character in Costume
MitD out of the Darkness

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/ChimeraHybrid/My%20avis/MitDoutofthedarkXL.png

[Bryn]

I wasn't planning to enter, but...
Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing
Mind Flayer as Cthulhu
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1686/flayerthulhuef6.png

It doesn't fit into any of the other categories, you see.

It's a .png, so IE users won't see the transparency.

Best Halloween Costume
Z-Axis as a Mind Flayer
http://dominomf.com/smcfiles/Z-Axis_Death%20flayer.png

[Nightclaws]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/robotguy/RoyGoblin.jpg

Roy as A GOBLIN!
I didn't actually make this for the competion, I made it then found the comp and put it here :P

[Lykan]

Oh, something I forgot to enter into the monster competition:

Best OotS Character in Costume
Haley as a Copper Dragon

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/ChimeraHybrid/My%20avis/Haleydragon2.gif

[Wayril]

Best Oots Group in Costume
Elan as a wizard, V as a cleric, and Belkar as Windstriker
Elan takes a level in wizard while Vaarsuvius becomes a cleric of Banjo (#81, #127) Belkar on the other hand took mischeif night a bit to seriously.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r65/kmartyr/Halloween.gif

I wasn't planning on entering either but I just learned how to use AI.

[Serpentine]

Hee, I like. But have I missed something with the coffee?

[Mephibosheth]

Here are a few halloweenatars I did at the request of some board members. Unfortunately, the switch to the new forums prevented people from seeing them (as far as I'm aware), so this marks their debut, I guess.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/Mephibosheth85/Inquisition.gif becomes http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/Mephibosheth85/Gouchquisition.gif
Best Halloween Costume - Cardinal Ximinez as a gaucho, fighting heretics with a fully-loaded taco!

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/Mephibosheth85/Carrion1.gif becomes http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/Mephibosheth85/Carrion2.gif
Best Halloween Costume - A character whose name I have forgotten sans head and wielding a scythe

Hope you like them.

Mephibosheth

Edit: Serpentine, check out the last few panels of this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0081.html).

[Wayril]

In comic #81 at the very end Vaarsuvius turns down a coffee machine because it doesn't do espresso. and again in #85

[Serpentine]

Ah, gotchas. Love the Cardinal, by the way.
While I'm at it, here's
Best Costume - Dark Helmet as a Ghost
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/serpentine16/Iron%20Avatarist%20Entries/dkhelmghost.jpg
I thought about doing the lot, but thought that might be overdoing it a little.

[Ego Slayer]

A character whose name I have forgotten sans head and wielding a scythe


Would "Vaynor" be the name you're looking for?:smalltongue:

[Evil_Pacifist]

Or perhaps Christopher Carrion?

By the way, awesome stuff. I wish I could actually draw.

[Lykan]

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Theme Drawing

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/ChimeraHybrid/My%20avis/Desertcomic.png

Last minute FTW!

EDIT: Whew... A lich, vampire, and a ghast encounter a little trouble in the desert...

Some of you may be wondering how the vampire is lasting out in the sunlight. Well, he applied SPF 250 before heading out today. Nifty stuff, that.

[Roland St. Jude]

Contest closed! Expect the next contest to be started soon. (And results for this one before that next one closes. :smallwink: )

[Ego Slayer]

Awe man... I'm owned. That's *awesome* Lykan! :smallbiggrin:

[Lykan]

Awe man... I'm owned. That's *awesome* Lykan! :smallbiggrin:

Yeah... Maybe I'll win something this time. :smallyuk:

Thanks though... Means alot. :smallsmile:

[Ego Slayer]

Yeah... Maybe I'll win something this time. :smallyuk:

You have my vote of confidence ^_~

[Dispozition]

Awe man... I'm owned. That's *awesome* Lykan! :smallbiggrin:

I'll second that...I reckon this'll be another contest that I take nothing home in...

[Bryn]

I'll be happy with just a bronze, but if you were to give me a gold, it would complete my trophy set :smalltongue:

[Serpentine]

Yeah, and my shelf needs some dusting.

[Death, your friend the Reaper]

I would like to say that I will be heartbroken if I don't get gold.

I know I didn't enter anything, but I think one shouldn't be narrow minded when judging this.

[Lykan]

I don't mean to rush the process or anything... But is there a time we can expect the results?

[Roland St. Jude]

The default is: before the next contest closes.

[Wayril]

The default is: before the next contest closes.

That means before Friday December 1st

[LostInBrittany]

Right now I'm making the awards. I try to get them done by the end of the week.

[TinSoldier]

Any announcements on this yet?

[Roland St. Jude]

I'll be posting results on this tomorrow! Really!

[Roland St. Jude]

And now...the spooktastic...

Iron Avatarist Halloween Awards Thread...

Best Halloween Costume Avatar

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_avatar_1st.gif
Death as Fairy Godmother by ChrisThePontifex

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_avatar_2nd.gif
Gorbash as Jayne Cobb by Gorbash

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_avatar_3rd.gif
Fallen Angel Costume by DarkCorax

Best OotS Character in Costume

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_oots_avatar_1st-1.gif
Belkar as Charlie Brown by The_Losar

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_oots_avatar_2nd.gif
Haley as a Copper Dragon by Lykan

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_oots_avatar_3rd.gif
Belkar as YikYik by Aberdam

Best OotS Group as a Costumed Group

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_oots_group_1st.gif
Belkar and Miko as each other by Elflad

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_oots_group_2nd.gif
Roy et al. as Ash et al. by The_Losar

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_oots_group_3rd.gif
Elan, V, and Belkar as Wizard, Cleric and Windstriker by Wayril

Best Miscellaneous Halloween Drawing

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_misc_1st.gif
DarkandEvil's Dead Hand

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_misc_2nd.gif
Necromancy by Moonlight by Egoslayer

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_misc_3rd.gif
Jack Skellington by Gengy

Best Overall

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_best_overall.gif

Death as your Fairy Godmother by Chris the Pontifex

Roland's Choice

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_rolandstj_choice.gif
As much as I like both Chris The Pontifex's Headless Roland and Dispozition's Roland as D, I have to give the award to...CtP in a Vampirical Pose by CtP!

Congratulations to our winners! As always, stellar job everyone! Thanks to our judges for making the tough decisions and also to LostInBrittany for another set of fine trophies!

[Dispozition]

*Sigh*

Yet another contest in which an award escapes my grasp...Oh well...Maybe next time!

Good work everyone that won. And great awards as always, LiB.

[TinSoldier]

Congratulations to all of the participants! This was a fun contest to judge and I look forward the next one.

[Death, your friend the Reaper]

((just asking, for the best halloween oots group the golden one seems to say 2nd as does the silver, is this a slight mistake?))

*Death waits till Roland has finished and then quickly walks up to the microphone and gives a slightly cough.*

As you may have known I was asked to be a judge, *Death gives a fugitive glance*

And I also have a trophy to present:

Death's Choice
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/z-t/path9221.png
Death as your Fairy Godmother by Chris the Pontifex

*Death quickly congratulates everyone and leaves the stage before security is called*

[Gengy]

Hurray! I won an award! Yay. Congrats to all the other winners too!

[Bryn]

Alas, I lack a prize. Shame. I liked my Illithid posing as Cthulhu, anyhow.

Good job to all winners, though! Now, to win the next one...

[Abardam]

Sweet! An award!

...I think.

[Bookman]

And now...the spooktastic...


Best OotS Character in Costume


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k217/RolandGitP/awards_halloween_oots_avatar_3rd.gif
Belkar as YikYik by Aberdam


*points out to Abardam*

That's a yes :biggrin:

And also congradulations to all!

[Roland St. Jude]

((just asking, for the best halloween oots group the golden one seems to say 2nd as does the silver, is this a slight mistake?))

I have no earthly idea what you are talking about. :smallwink:

[Lykan]

... *sigh*... I know it's wrong to feel this way... But I'm ticked that the thing of mine that one aomething wasn't even for this contest... As opposed to the two big things which took me about 4 hours apiece.

Meh... Take it or leave it, I guess...

*takes trophy*

[Sliver_Slave]

Awesome avatars.

[ChimericPhase]

Y'know, generally it's not a good idea to resurrect year-old threads from the thread graveyard. Practice safe Necromancy, use protection.