bigbaddragon
2008-08-19, 05:25 AM
My DM started using pretty much zombies recently as a part of the new plotline in campaign we're in and some of them were pretty tough. To be more precise all of them were pretty tough but there are 6 (sometimes 7, all level 4 at the time) players in our group so we've managed to fight them without any of us dying. As far as I've noticed all of the zombies had 24-26 strength and 90-110 HP, +16 to hit (I observed his rolls closely and if I'm not mistaken this puts those zombies with something like 14+HD) and 2d6+7-10 damage.
Last night our group got separated and and one of the groups was:
- Human ranger 2/ scout 3 focusing on ranged combat (me)
- Elf druid 5 (very inexperienced player btw) and
- Half-Orc Barbarian 5
So we found two guys who later turn out to be some evil clerics and after we caught them in a lie they attack us. One of them uses summon monster 2 to summon a lemur. Barbarian rages and kills the lemur in one shot (no surprise there :smallwink:) and then I approach and ready my action vs one cleric's spellcasting (and ruin his Hold Person attempt). Right after that the druid entangles them and one of them is caught. The other priest cast Animate Dead on the dead lemur and raises a zombie creature like the ones I described before.
This is what I have a problem with: is it possible to create such strong undead creature with third level spell with all those strength, HP and attack bonus or does the newly created undead retains physical characteristics of the base creature? Or the DM just screwed up?
We did manage to survive the fight thanks to barbarian (and his 28 str with bull's strength) and druids bear but I think that normally this should have been a little to much for us to handle if we hadn't been so lucky. One of the priests was at least level 5 but I can't tell anything about the other since he managed to make his str check after 5 or 6 rounds at which point his friend was already dead and he had already taken 25+ damage and started to run (don't worry he won't get far I'm faster than him).
What are your thoughts on this?
Last night our group got separated and and one of the groups was:
- Human ranger 2/ scout 3 focusing on ranged combat (me)
- Elf druid 5 (very inexperienced player btw) and
- Half-Orc Barbarian 5
So we found two guys who later turn out to be some evil clerics and after we caught them in a lie they attack us. One of them uses summon monster 2 to summon a lemur. Barbarian rages and kills the lemur in one shot (no surprise there :smallwink:) and then I approach and ready my action vs one cleric's spellcasting (and ruin his Hold Person attempt). Right after that the druid entangles them and one of them is caught. The other priest cast Animate Dead on the dead lemur and raises a zombie creature like the ones I described before.
This is what I have a problem with: is it possible to create such strong undead creature with third level spell with all those strength, HP and attack bonus or does the newly created undead retains physical characteristics of the base creature? Or the DM just screwed up?
We did manage to survive the fight thanks to barbarian (and his 28 str with bull's strength) and druids bear but I think that normally this should have been a little to much for us to handle if we hadn't been so lucky. One of the priests was at least level 5 but I can't tell anything about the other since he managed to make his str check after 5 or 6 rounds at which point his friend was already dead and he had already taken 25+ damage and started to run (don't worry he won't get far I'm faster than him).
What are your thoughts on this?