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ArlEammon
2008-08-20, 06:32 PM
It, (Pennywise) is an embodiment of evil from another dimension. A creature of power, seeking to exterminate the human race. He is a horror from beyond.

Voldemort is no slouch. He is a mighty warlock with great power, capable of killing with a flick of his wand. He has his Deatheaters.

SurlySeraph
2008-08-20, 06:58 PM
Have you read all of It? It's a goddamn shapeshifting alien star god that feeds on fear. It can turn into anything someone in the area is terrified of - including groups of zombies, giant birds, werewolves, swamp monsters, and more or less anything else - and its true form is a giant spider. Voldemort's not afraid of much, but he's not immune to being ripped to pieces. And I doubt that his magic would work very well against It; the magic that worked against It in the book was fueled by innocence and childish belief, rather than by evil.

Mr. Scaly
2008-08-20, 07:50 PM
How did they kill It anyway? I couldn't get past the second half of the book, it's so damn boring.

Kekken
2008-08-21, 01:15 PM
Have you read all of It? It's a goddamn shapeshifting alien star god that feeds on fear. It can turn into anything someone in the area is terrified of - including groups of zombies, giant birds, werewolves, swamp monsters, and more or less anything else - and its true form is a giant spider. Voldemort's not afraid of much, but he's not immune to being ripped to pieces. And I doubt that his magic would work very well against It; the magic that worked against It in the book was fueled by innocence and childish belief, rather than by evil.

Voldemort not afraid of much? It was fear of death that turned him into what he became.

There was a reason they called themselves the Death Eaters. They wanted to defeat death, the thing they feared the most.

So yeah, poor little guy doesn't stand a chance

Ecalsneerg
2008-08-21, 01:23 PM
Seventeen year old wangsty kid beat him, an entity of pure fear should have no trouble.

hamishspence
2008-08-21, 02:34 PM
Boggarts are Harry potter Fear-using entities, and not very impressive. But thats fear user, not fear entity.

Pennywise might be Stephen King's version of Great Old One or even Outer God, a la Nyarlathothep.

TheLogman
2008-08-21, 04:20 PM
Deathly Hallows Spoilers, like seriously all of them, will ruin book, do not read if you haven't read it, or don't plan to.

It all depends on how many Horocruxes there are, and how they, and other various magic spells affect Pennwise. If any of the non-snake, non-Harry Horocruxes are alive (Book, ring, cup, pendent, diadem), and It can only kill, Voldy wins. It hunts him down one night, kills him. Meh, not a problem. Even if every crux but the Diadem was destroyed, the Diadem is in the Room of Requirement, so how the hell could it get into there? For all we know, the room only works on humans, and IT isn't the kind to do the kind of extensive research required to find it, let alone actually, like you know, get INTO HOGWARTS. Voldy reconstitutes himself somewhere else, all the while researching IT.

Sure, He had trouble with Harry, but that's cause Harry's magic was the honest, down to earth, more powerful kind. It is nothing but a dark magic creature, most honestly a Boggart. Granted, a powerful Boggart, with its residence a sewer and not something smaller, but a Boggart non the less. Plus, regardless of what IT is, we all agree IT's a Dark Magic creature, Voldy's specialty. Granted, Voldy might have a little trouble laughing it to death, but why bother? He's got enough magic with the rest of his guys to wipe out the entire town, leaving the Boggart exposed to the sun, and maybe laughter. Pettigrew was able to destroy an entire street alone and survive. Now we take an entire legion of Death Eaters, blowing up the town.

HOWEVER. If somehow IT is immune to magic, not a Boggart or any known magical creature, AND can kill past the Horocruxes, Voldy is dead.

hamishspence
2008-08-22, 03:08 PM
common trope of Fear creatures is when faced, they turn out to be somewhat pathetic. However Pennywise might be rather more dangerous than that.

BlueWizard
2008-08-23, 06:38 PM
Isn't IT defeated?

puppyavenger
2008-08-23, 07:34 PM
Isn't IT defeated?

only when the people who defeated It were protected by It's opposite number .

Stupendous_Man
2008-08-23, 08:01 PM
Deathly Hallows Spoilers, like seriously all of them, will ruin book, do not read if you haven't read it, or don't plan to.

It all depends on how many Horocruxes there are, and how they, and other various magic spells affect Pennwise. If any of the non-snake, non-Harry Horocruxes are alive (Book, ring, cup, pendent, diadem), and It can only kill, Voldy wins. It hunts him down one night, kills him. Meh, not a problem. Even if every crux but the Diadem was destroyed, the Diadem is in the Room of Requirement, so how the hell could it get into there? For all we know, the room only works on humans, and IT isn't the kind to do the kind of extensive research required to find it, let alone actually, like you know, get INTO HOGWARTS. Voldy reconstitutes himself somewhere else, all the while researching IT.

Sure, He had trouble with Harry, but that's cause Harry's magic was the honest, down to earth, more powerful kind. It is nothing but a dark magic creature, most honestly a Boggart. Granted, a powerful Boggart, with its residence a sewer and not something smaller, but a Boggart non the less. Plus, regardless of what IT is, we all agree IT's a Dark Magic creature, Voldy's specialty. Granted, Voldy might have a little trouble laughing it to death, but why bother? He's got enough magic with the rest of his guys to wipe out the entire town, leaving the Boggart exposed to the sun, and maybe laughter. Pettigrew was able to destroy an entire street alone and survive. Now we take an entire legion of Death Eaters, blowing up the town.

HOWEVER. If somehow IT is immune to magic, not a Boggart or any known magical creature, AND can kill past the Horocruxes, Voldy is dead.

also,

SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!

Selrahc
2008-08-23, 08:24 PM
also,

SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!

Well yeah. But not in Deathly Hallows.

Steven the Lich
2008-08-24, 08:34 AM
Voldemort is cool, but against Pennywise, I don't think he can win. But Voldemort has a dozen hocruxes that hold his soul so he doesn't exactly die. He still loses though, since he can't combat IT with what he has normally. Unless he has an exspecto patrollum spell or something (Something I doubt, but still should be considered).

TheLogman
2008-08-25, 07:34 PM
Well, Lupin's 3rd year class was able to take out a Boggart without any practice with Rediculoso. Voldemort was an A+ student, he would have learned the spell at Hogwarts, makes sense for it to be in the curriculum. He laughs bitterly and jests at the pathetic. All he has to do is cast Rediuloso at Pennwise and turn it into whatever he finds really funny and pathetic. He then laughs it to death.

Plus, the horocruxes are part of him, so yeah, he does beat Pennwise with what he has, Horocruxes and Death Eaters. Hell, they could just do that quickened revival thing that they did that other time.

Serenity
2008-08-26, 02:48 AM
No, he cast Rediculoso at Pennywise and IT laughs for a good long while that his would-be foe mistook him for something so pathetic as a Boggart. IT then draws Voldemort into the Dead Lights, leaving him a gibbering wreck, helplessly and almost irreparably insane.

DemonicAngel
2008-08-26, 05:55 AM
It is not a boggart. it cant be defeated by laughing at his face. even Voldemort most powerful spells cant even harm It, so he would lose.

Steven the Lich
2008-08-26, 07:24 AM
I'd like to put forth again the theory that the expecto patrollum spell could work if Voldemort had learned it. If IT was defeated with child hood innocence or something, a manifestation of happiness could work. What shape the Patrollum spell will take for Voldemort I can only guess.

Other than that, the most effective spells in inventory would be avada kedavra (The other two curses as well perhaps, can someone give their effects?), and the rediculoso spell could have some effect against IT. After all, IT seems to resemble a boggart in the abilities (transforming into ones fears, for instance). But the spell would have a very minor effect against IT anyway, more like slow him down than actually defeat, so Voldemort needs to get a huge trick of bags ready.