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Ichneumon
2008-09-03, 02:32 AM
I was just wondering if the board's dice rolling system is able to roll fudge dice in cause I might start a fudge game here.

Rawhide
2008-09-03, 02:55 AM
What's fudge dice?

Castaras
2008-09-03, 03:23 AM
I'm thinking it might be these...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fudge_dice


Fudge uses customized six-sided "Fudge dice" on which the traditional pips or numbers have been replaced by two plus signs (representing "+1"), two minus signs (representing "-1") and two blank sides (representing "0"). A number of these dice are rolled and the results added together, usually four at a time ("4dF" in Fudge dice notation) to produce a result from -4 through +4. This result is then added to the appropriate Trait with the goal of matching or surpassing the Difficulty Level of the test. Thus, a Good (+1) Attribute combined with total roll of +1 would achieve a Great (+2) outcome. There are also several alternative dice systems available that use regular six-sided or ten-sided dice, coins, or playing cards.

Rawhide
2008-09-03, 03:53 AM
Hmmm, yeah, no. The board dice system can't do that. The best you could do is say, make 1-2=-1, 3-4=0 and 5-6=1, then calculate them manually. (use [rollv] to have it show the individual values or roll separately).

P.S. It is kind of amusing that 1-2 is indeed -1 :smallwink:.

Studoku
2008-09-03, 03:54 AM
I think it can roll d3 s. If you rolled 4d3 and subtraced 8 from the result it would work the same as 4 fudge dice.

For n fudge dice, roll nd3-2n.

Thanatos 51-50
2008-09-03, 06:11 AM
Lucky Penny uses the FUDGE Edition of FATE
For our rolls, we use the following:

4d3
Counting the 1s as -
the 2s as nils
and the 3s as +

Hope it helps!

Duke of URL
2008-09-03, 10:52 AM
I agree with the poster who suggested:


1d3-2

More generalized to:


nd3-2n

Take advantage of the fact the the board roller allows for arbitrarily sized dice.

BRC
2008-09-03, 01:12 PM
What's fudge dice?
Chocolaty goodness in twenty-sided form.

Skippy
2008-09-03, 01:34 PM
Chocolaty goodness in twenty-sided form.

That sir, is pure awesomeness.

detrevnisisiht
2008-09-03, 03:56 PM
Chocolaty goodness in twenty-sided form.

Sigd:smallbiggrin:

Thanatos 51-50
2008-09-03, 04:54 PM
Use of rollv shows what number each individual die rolls as.

An example is as per this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4596630&postcount=238) post
Open the spoiler.

As you can see, I rolled a 3, a 1, and two 2s.
This reads as + - 'nil' 'nil', leading to a "Break even" roll.

Quincunx
2008-09-03, 05:43 PM
. . .When I get back home, this "fudge dice" idea must be further explored. Anyone have polyhedra ice cube trays?

Ichneumon
2008-09-04, 08:16 AM
Thanks, I think I will use the 4d3-8 method, when I actually do get any interest in doing my campaign with FUDGE.

Zeta Kai
2008-09-09, 12:50 PM
Chocolaty goodness in twenty-sided form.

Why d20? It could be any deliciously-shaped dilectible dice.

Vonriel
2008-09-09, 06:39 PM
. . .When I get back home, this "fudge dice" idea must be further explored. Anyone have polyhedra ice cube trays?

Regular ice cube trays are 6 sided, don'cha'know. :smallamused: At least, for me.

Studoku
2008-09-09, 06:45 PM
Regular ice cube trays are 6 sided, don'cha'know. :smallamused: At least, for me.
But not regular polyhedra. Regular polyhedra need all the faces to be congruent regular polygons.

ericgrau
2008-09-09, 07:31 PM
1d3-2 or 4d3-8 or Xd3-2*X

That's all you need for fudge dice.

EDIT: Stu said the same thing, whoops. But yeah, this works.

Hmmm... the fudge distribution curve seems to be preferable over the d20 system. The bell curve closer to reality, the rolls don't dwarf your stats and yet a max or min roll is still kinda rare (1/16 not 1/9 as it would be with linear dice).

Stormthorn
2008-09-26, 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by That linked article
Fudge uses customized six-sided "Fudge dice" on which the traditional pips or numbers have been replaced by two plus signs (representing "+1"), two minus signs (representing "-1") and two blank sides (representing "0"). A number of these dice are rolled and the results added together, usually four at a time ("4dF" in Fudge dice notation) to produce a result from -4 through +4. This result is then added to the appropriate Trait with the goal of matching or surpassing the Difficulty Level of the test. Thus, a Good (+1) Attribute combined with total roll of +1 would achieve a Great (+2) outcome. There are also several alternative dice systems available that use regular six-sided or ten-sided dice, coins, or playing cards.

Wow. Whoever made this system had way to much time on their hands. I can see it now. "Ya know, rather than having the 1 on a d6 stand for -1, why dont we invent an entirly new type of die and a system based upon them and see if people will buy it."
"Should work, just make sure its needlessly complicated."

Rawhide
2008-09-26, 05:22 PM
Well, Fudge is available for free and under both the open content and open gaming licenses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fudge_(role-playing_game)). 1d6 also does not have the bell curve that 4dF does (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FUDGE_4dF_probability.svg).

Quincunx
2008-09-26, 05:44 PM
My ice cube trays have hemispherical depressions--not useful for dice at all.

Knaight
2008-10-10, 07:14 PM
The fudge dice are there to allow for something called a trait ladder, which allows the word scale, which is the whole point. I play Fudge, its extremely simple, very elegant, and the special die mechanic is genius.