LibraryOgre
2008-09-03, 11:59 PM
So, I'm playing a Wizard/Fey Pact Warlock, who trained in thievery (no one else did, and I've been wanting to play a thief).
What kind of action is Thievery, specifically Pick Pocket and Sleight of Hand? It doesn't say in the book.
Normally, most manipulations of items are minor actions; on the list of minor actions, only 1 isn't manipulating an object in some way (drop prone); drawing or sheathing weapons, drinking potions, loading crossbows, opening and closing doors, picking up, retrieving, or storing items. Only shields require something bigger... a standard action.
I think that they're minor actions, in most cases; you can pick a pocket and keep walking at normal speed (or walk and bull rush, for a bump'n'lift). However, I wanted some other opinions, in case I need to bring this up to my DM (he reads these boards, so he can freely chime in... I'm not doing anything behind his back).
Some examples:
The character unlocks and de-traps a chest. Opening it is a minor action. Could he use prestidigitation (standard action) to distract people while he helped himself to something valuably shiny?
Could he use prestidigitation in conjunction with actual sleight of hand to make it seem he had produced something from thin air (perhaps making the item invisible, a shower of sparks, and slipping it out of his sleeve or pouch)?
And, since he's fey pact, an important ancillary question: If you're invisible, do you get a bonus to pick a pocket during combat? Maybe equal to the usual penalty applied to total concealment (so instead of a -10 you have a -5... -10, with a +5 to the check because the person can't see that you're stealing from them)?
What kind of action is Thievery, specifically Pick Pocket and Sleight of Hand? It doesn't say in the book.
Normally, most manipulations of items are minor actions; on the list of minor actions, only 1 isn't manipulating an object in some way (drop prone); drawing or sheathing weapons, drinking potions, loading crossbows, opening and closing doors, picking up, retrieving, or storing items. Only shields require something bigger... a standard action.
I think that they're minor actions, in most cases; you can pick a pocket and keep walking at normal speed (or walk and bull rush, for a bump'n'lift). However, I wanted some other opinions, in case I need to bring this up to my DM (he reads these boards, so he can freely chime in... I'm not doing anything behind his back).
Some examples:
The character unlocks and de-traps a chest. Opening it is a minor action. Could he use prestidigitation (standard action) to distract people while he helped himself to something valuably shiny?
Could he use prestidigitation in conjunction with actual sleight of hand to make it seem he had produced something from thin air (perhaps making the item invisible, a shower of sparks, and slipping it out of his sleeve or pouch)?
And, since he's fey pact, an important ancillary question: If you're invisible, do you get a bonus to pick a pocket during combat? Maybe equal to the usual penalty applied to total concealment (so instead of a -10 you have a -5... -10, with a +5 to the check because the person can't see that you're stealing from them)?