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ArenaManager
2008-09-15, 12:00 AM
Arena Tournament, Round 47: Aramail vs. Torr

Map

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q76/NamelessOne_album/SinkingIsland.jpg


XP Award: 300 XP
GP Award: 300 GP

FF fanboy - Aramail (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/view.php?id=30528)
AlterForm - Torr (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/view.php?id=71013)

All Gladiators, please roll initiative

Fan
2008-09-15, 12:06 AM
Before the match I will purchase a longbow, and 9 +1 arrows (I do believe that the cost for +1 ammuntion is 20 gp per arro, and the cost of a long bow is 8gp.)'

[roll0]

AlterForm
2008-09-15, 09:37 AM
[roll0]

no purchases

Fan
2008-09-15, 09:47 AM
Okay since its my turn first I will start with my longbow in hand, and a +1 arrow nocked
I will post location once i have access to a comp that can view th bloody map.
Also I will sell my shield, and spend the gold from it on a vial of alchiemeists fire.

Hp:10
Ac:18
items in hand: Longbow +1 arrow knocked
location: to be determined once I can view the image

Fan
2008-09-16, 05:01 AM
posting it here for the bump.


I will start in N2, and end in O8
Then I iwll make a hide check
[roll0]
then to finish off turn I will hold my standard action to atack him on sight.

Stats

Location: O8
Hp:10/10
Ac: 18
Items in hand: Longbow with a +1 arrow knocked

END TURN.

AlterForm
2008-09-16, 07:35 AM
You done then?

Fan
2008-09-16, 09:27 AM
OOC: Yes I have finished my turn

Bayar
2008-09-16, 04:28 PM
Ref Bayar

@ FFFanboy:
You cant end your turn in O8 since you would have to climb a cliff...

AlterForm
2008-09-16, 04:31 PM
Torr

Actions
Start in M25, Longbow at the ready.
Move: move to M19
Swift: activate swift jump
[roll0]
and land in M15.

Turn not Over, LoS please.

Bayar
2008-09-16, 04:42 PM
LOS will be given shortly. FF needs to an swer to a question.

@refs:
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Kyeudo
2008-09-16, 04:49 PM
GM Kyeudo

Aramail

O8 is up a large cliff. Did you mean O7?

Fan
2008-09-16, 06:20 PM
REFS: laso I apologise.

thats what I don;t like about these colored maps I'm color blind to half of these, and i can't see for ****. Yes I meant O7 BTW.)

Kyeudo
2008-09-16, 07:32 PM
GM Kyeudo

Refs:

As Aramail has cover and got a 23 on his Hide check, no matter what Torr gets for a spot check he won't be able to see Aramail.


Aramail

Torr lands in M15


Torr

You don't see anyone.

AlterForm
2008-09-16, 07:50 PM
Actions, cont.
Bother. I have a suspicion as to what's going on, so...
Ready an action to attack with longbow upon gaining LoS.

Stats

HP: 13/13
AC 16; Touch 13; FF 13
In-hand: Longbow
Maneuvers:
[]Moment of Perfect Mind
[]Sudden Leap
[]Wolf Fang Strike

End Turn

Fan
2008-09-16, 07:55 PM
REFS!

Actually read my first post I have a readied action to fire upon LOS buddeh


posting it here for the bump.


I will start in N2, and end in O8
Then I iwll make a hide check

then to finish off turn I will hold my standard action to atack him on sight.

Stats

Location: O8
Hp:10/10
Ac: 18
Items in hand: Longbow with a +1 arrow knocked

Fan
2008-09-16, 08:10 PM
technicly i answered my own question.


I will take my shot'
[roll0] (5 dex +1 for the magic arrow, and
+1 Bab)

damage
[roll1]
And I'am now seen in O7

chilepepper
2008-09-17, 01:45 AM
technicly i answered my own question.


I will take my shot'
[roll0] (5 dex +1 for the magic arrow, and
+1 Bab)
against his flat footed Ac since he can't see me. (-10 to hdie when I make a attack, and with my total cover when ducking back down he will just see an arrow pop up.))
damage
[roll1]


High Ref chilepepper
QFT.
AramailHiding after an attack is a move action. You cannot take a move action on your opponents turn. You also can't take a free action other than speaking on your opponents turn, so you cannot "drop back down". Unspoiler your attack and state your position for your opponent.

Fan
2008-09-17, 04:41 AM
As the refs will it, it has been done.

Bayar
2008-09-17, 04:52 AM
@Alterform:
I do belive your readied action triggers...

Fan
2008-09-17, 04:56 AM
I know I'm not supposed to read ref spoilers, but I found something REALLY wrong with that.

His readied action was never there consering he readied it AFTER he moved, and my attack happens the second he arrives in M19 thus being in my sights from O7.

AlterForm
2008-09-17, 07:41 AM
Mkay, since we've apparently established LoS (no surprise there...), I'll peg him with a MW arrow (I hope). Unfortunately, he has cover, so I'm shooting against AC 22 without PBS. :smallannoyed:

[roll0] kapow
[roll1] and pathetic
[roll2]
[roll3]

Visible in M19

Fan
2008-09-17, 02:15 PM
Aramail will take the arrow with surpsing grace, and peg off another arrow against the guy down who shot him.
[roll0] against Ac 16.
damage
[roll1]
if crit
[roll2]
extra damage if crit
[roll3]
then seeing as I failed I wil merely knock another one of my +1 arrows as a free action, and hope to god he doesn't hit me next turn.

AlterForm
2008-09-17, 04:37 PM
I'll take that as meaning it's my turn to go.

Torr
Five-foot step to N19
Rapid shot with 2 MW arrows

[roll0]
[roll1]

[roll2]
[roll3]

Finish with a swift action to enter Stance of Clarity, targetted to Aramail.

Darn, just 1 hit.
Stats

HP: 13/13
AC 18; Touch 15; FF 13 (10 + 3armor + 4dex + 2stance - 1flaw)
In-hand: Longbow
Stance: Stance of Clarity (Aramail)
Maneuvers:
[]Moment of Perfect Mind
[x]Sudden Leap
[]Wolf Fang Strike

END TURN

Fan
2008-09-17, 04:42 PM
Aramail will tkae the hit to the chest, and nimbly dodge another one before shooting off one of his +1 arrows at Torr
[roll0]
damage
[roll1]
will edit in more once i see if i hit.
I'll make my move from O7 to O6 thus obsucring his vision enitrely.
END TURN.

Stats
Ac: 22 against Torr unless he breaks cover.
Hp: 3/10
Longbow in hand with a +1 arrow knocked
postition: O6

AlterForm
2008-09-17, 05:04 PM
Not quite out of LoS, actually. See spoiler.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x38/MightyDraco/LoS.jpg

Also, the 5-7 ft region just became shallow water at the beginning of your turn.

Torr Round 4 in next post.

AlterForm
2008-09-17, 05:06 PM
Torr round 4

Five-Foot step to M18
Another pair of MW arrows at Aramail.
[roll0]
[roll1]

[roll2]
[roll3]

I think attack number 2 hit. Confirm?

Fan
2008-09-17, 05:06 PM
Once again i'm color blind man, I cant read, or see most of these bloody colors.
Instead I'll move into P6.
I do apologise, but I'm COLOR BLIND.

AlterForm
2008-09-17, 05:07 PM
Oi, oi, no problem. :smallbiggrin:

Lemme amend my turn then...

AlterForm
2008-09-17, 05:09 PM
Torr round 4

Actions
Move to N13.
Ready an action to fire a MW arrow on gaining LoS.

Stats

HP: 13/13
AC 18; Touch 15; FF 13 (10 + 3armor + 4dex + 2stance - 1flaw)
In-hand: Longbow
Stance: Stance of Clarity (Aramail)
Maneuvers:
[]Moment of Perfect Mind
[x]Sudden Leap
[]Wolf Fang Strike

End Turn

Fan
2008-09-17, 05:13 PM
I will attempt to scale zee walls!
[roll0] DC 10!
since I beat the Dc by more than 5 I succeed vonderfully, and reach the 5ft top. my standard action will be used to hold an attack to nail the man on LOS.

END TURN

AlterForm
2008-09-17, 05:57 PM
Torr round 5

Actions
Partial move to L12. This should get me LoS by my NW corner. 15 ft of movement remaining.

LoS please. Turn not over.

Morbius
2008-09-17, 06:28 PM
High Ref Morbius

..................

Errrr, FF fanboy I need some explanations....
A long bow costs 75 GP, not 8 GP, a +1 arrow costs 46 GP each, with the 300 you gained from the last match at best you could have bought 4 of them and the bow so... you should have one one more +1 arrow

Also on P6 there is only a corner from two walls(but no walls actually), assuming you could climb that the DC would be 15 since there is no corner to brace against and you you don't have enough move to reach the top on a single move action, you need to use a second move action and make a second climb check for it




I will give LOS after AF

Bayar
2008-09-18, 04:24 AM
Wait, you are really color blind ? I was thinking you were saying that just because you were mistaking the green colors...

Sorry dude :frown:

Fan
2008-09-18, 04:34 AM
Yes I can't really see in ANYTHing but, red, Black, and white. Thats it........ kinda ironic if you think about it.
Edi@: I kinda sold my steel shield, and had about 10 gp left after my intial spendings..... so that gives me 2 arrows left.:smalleek:

AlterForm
2008-09-18, 05:07 PM
FF_Fanboy, I'm sure the other refs would appreciate it if you had an actual running of what and when you bought stuff.

My rundown of your purchase history, based on what I could find. At 1121 gp for a stack of 20 (1 base + 20 * 6 MW + 1000 for +1), +1 arrows are 56 gp each.


Pre-Entry:
Studded Leather (25)
K-T Harpoon (6)
Harpoons [x4] (12)
Oil of Magic Weapon (50)
Sunrods [x?] (12)
L. Steel Shield (9)
Remainder: 6
Pre-Battle 1:
Alchemist's Frost (5)
Remainder: 1
Pre-Battle 2:
Sell Shield (+4.5)
Win Match (+300)
Longbow (75)
Arrow +1 [x4] (224)
Alchemist's Fire (5)
Remainder: 1.5

Fan
2008-09-23, 04:51 AM
FF_Fanboy, I'm sure the other refs would appreciate it if you had an actual running of what and when you bought stuff.

My rundown of your purchase history, based on what I could find. At 1121 gp for a stack of 20 (1 base + 20 * 6 MW + 1000 for +1), +1 arrows are 56 gp each.


Pre-Entry:
Studded Leather (25)
K-T Harpoon (6)
Harpoons [x4] (12)
Oil of Magic Weapon (50)
Sunrods [x?] (12)
L. Steel Shield (9)
Remainder: 6
Pre-Battle 1:
Alchemist's Frost (5)
Remainder: 1
Pre-Battle 2:
Sell Shield (+4.5)
Win Match (+300)
Longbow (75)
Arrow +1 [x4] (224)
Alchemist's Fire (5)
Remainder: 1.5


That seems good to me. I have 2 arrows left then....

AlterForm
2008-09-23, 04:26 PM
Well then, now that that's settled, LoS please.

Morbius
2008-09-25, 04:09 PM
High Ref Morbius

Just one small correction:
as I said before each +1 arrow is 46.02 GP and not 56 GP. So 4 +1 arrows would be 184.08.


Also the +1 arrows were only half the post I left for FF fanboy, there is still this:


High Ref Morbius

..................

Errrr, FF fanboy I need some explanations....
A long bow costs 75 GP, not 8 GP, a +1 arrow costs 46 GP each, with the 300 you gained from the last match at best you could have bought 4 of them and the bow so... you should have one one more +1 arrow

Also on P6 there is only a corner from two walls(but no walls actually), assuming you could climb that the DC would be 15 since there is no corner to brace against and you you don't have enough move to reach the top on a single move action, you need to use a second move action and make a second climb check for it




I will give LOS after this AF

Match on hold until FF fanboy fix this as well.

AlterForm
2008-09-25, 07:11 PM
Quite right on the arrows; my bad.

And...I wait.

Fan
2008-09-27, 08:03 PM
Okay, so with this astounding new revelation, I shall instead take the total defense action. +4 to AC wooT!

Morbius
2008-09-29, 11:37 AM
High Ref Morbius

LOS Restablished


Aramail is on P6 halfway to climb the walls and Torr is on L12, still Torr's turn

AlterForm
2008-09-29, 04:59 PM
Woot Woot... here comes the pwnage train. :smallbiggrin:

Torr Round 5 continuation

Actions

Continue move to M11. Drawing from my NW corner, I can still hit him with cover, and I'm now in range for point-blank shot.

MW Arrow
[roll0]
[roll1]

Stats

Position: M11
HP: 13/13
AC 18; Touch 15; FF 13 (10 + 3armor + 4dex + 2stance - 1flaw)
In-hand: Longbow
Stance: Stance of Clarity (Aramail)
Maneuvers:
[]Moment of Perfect Mind
[x]Sudden Leap
[]Wolf Fang Strike

Darn. END TURN.

Morbius
2008-09-29, 05:13 PM
High Ref Morbius

That's a hit (I think), climbing opponents lose dex bonus to AC and before I hear an objection from FF let me add this:



The text of the climb skill says that one loses the dex bonus to AC while climbing... what happens if someone decides to use total defense during a climb?

If Total Defense provides a dodge bonus, they just wasted a full round action doing nothing useful.

(it's actually a standard action but... whatever)

Fan
2008-09-29, 05:18 PM
High Ref Morbius

That's a hit (I think), climbing opponents lose dex bonus to AC and before I hear an objection from FF let me add this:



(it's actually a standard action but... whatever)

I actually don't think thats a hit with Cover.
+3 AC
+4 Total defense
+2 Cover
50% Miss chance I do believe
and
10 base.
= 19 AC

Morbius
2008-09-29, 05:32 PM
I actually don't think thats a hit with Cover.
+3 AC
+4 Total defense
+2 Cover
50% Miss chance I do believe
and
10 base.
= 19 AC

High Ref Morbius

Oh the cover, I forgot about that...

You are right but the math actually is

+3 Armor
0 Total defense(does not apply as by Kyeudo rulling)
+4 Cover
and
10 base.
= 17 AC

(I have no idea why you would get a 50% miss chance :smallconfused:)

Fan
2008-09-29, 05:34 PM
High Ref Morbius

Oh the cover, I forgot about that...

You are right but the math actually is

+3 Armor
+1 shield
0 Total defense(does not apply as by Kyeudo rulling)
+4 Cover
and
10 base.
= 18 AC

(I have no idea why you would get a 50% miss chance :smallconfused:)
So yay! I is safe. :3

Fan
2008-10-01, 06:18 PM
Aramail qwill climb at the full pace he had last turn.... This would put him at the top of the cliff right? And I do believe the shark attacks happen in that sqaure this turn.
Also I will use another move action to move ten feet to the north thus obstructing LOS.

Face the side I came from, and be listening for sounds of his armored movement.
1d20+4
Elf+cross class. :3
Listen.

AlterForm
2008-10-01, 06:27 PM
Should've called the DQ earlier. :smalltongue:

I'll assume you're done with your turn.

Morbius
2008-10-01, 06:32 PM
High Ref Morbius

he needs to make a climb check actually and remake another roll as well

Fan
2008-10-02, 07:07 PM
Ah, I see....))

Climb check since visable.
Dc 10 since I have a wall to prop myself against. (the corner)
[roll0] ( class skill, +2 strength, and -1 armor penealty)

AlterForm
2008-10-02, 10:13 PM
What about the mysterious "other roll" Morbius mentioned?

Fan
2008-10-04, 11:26 PM
What about the mysterious "other roll" Morbius mentioned?

((Other roll?))

Listen
[roll0]

((I apolgise, I thought this was DEAD.)

Morbius
2008-10-06, 05:35 PM
High Ref Morbius

FF fanboy
... FF fanboy you know that north is up right?

AlterForm
2008-10-06, 05:42 PM
Bayar? Really? :smallconfused:

[EDIT]: :smallwink:

Morbius
2008-10-06, 06:50 PM
Bayar? Really? :smallconfused:

Bayar? What about Bayar?

*whistles*

Bayar
2008-10-06, 11:46 PM
I dont get it...

Fan
2008-10-08, 07:21 PM
((Um, yeah I do, but I have reached the top of said Cliff..... don't I get to move forward using the rules for rough terrain due to a gradual elevation?))

AlterForm
2008-10-09, 07:39 AM
Are we ready for LoS then? :smallannoyed:

Morbius
2008-10-09, 07:53 AM
High Ref Morbius


...LOS


Aramail finishes climbing then for some reason turns back north and jump on the water ending his move on P5 Sharks try to attack him at the end of the turn.
Torr's turn

AlterForm
2008-10-09, 06:23 PM
How...convenient

Torr Round (?)

Actions to come; just cementing the last round's actions.

Fan
2008-10-09, 06:24 PM
High Ref Morbius


...LOS


Aramail finishes climbing then for some reason turns back north and jump on the water ending his move on P5 Sharks try to attack him at the end of the turn.
Torr's turn

((Um, I thought you said ti was north? I may be getting my actions screwed up, but from the looks of the map.... *checks again* GAH! I'm a MTHUOSHFOSUHF idiot!))
[spoiler]
He will instead move 5ft SOUTH as a free action, and ready an action to hit Torr upon LOS
[spoiler]

AlterForm
2008-10-09, 06:27 PM
Torr Round 6

Five-Foot Step to L11

Eat Rapid Shot: (2 MW arrows)
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]

resolving rolls...turn not over

[EDIT]: Something just came up. May or may not be back tonight.

Morbius
2008-10-09, 08:24 PM
((Um, I thought you said ti was north? I may be getting my actions screwed up, but from the looks of the map.... *checks again* GAH! I'm a MTHUOSHFOSUHF idiot!))
[spoiler]
He will instead move 5ft SOUTH as a free action, and ready an action to hit Torr upon LOS
[spoiler]

High Ref Morbius


Sorry FF but you had more chances to fix that than most get, your action remains as you posted, after climbing your turn back and enters the water. Still Torr's turn

AlterForm
2008-10-09, 09:56 PM
Back. I'm pretty sure that arrow misses due to cover, but the sharks might still get him. If one of you two would be kind enough to roll dem bones for the shark attack, that'd be great.

END TURN btw, once the sharks have their go.

Fan
2008-10-09, 10:37 PM
Back. I'm pretty sure that arrow misses due to cover, but the sharks might still get him. If one of you two would be kind enough to roll dem bones for the shark attack, that'd be great.

END TURN btw, once the sharks have their go.

Speaking of which how many MW arrows does he have left? I'm pretty sure he's used 8 by now.

AlterForm
2008-10-10, 07:35 AM
Speaking of which how many MW arrows does he have left? I'm pretty sure he's used 8 by now.

12 arrows left.

AlterForm
2008-10-10, 08:35 PM
Still waiting on those sharks.

Morbius
2008-10-10, 08:59 PM
High Ref Morbius

I guess the 1st attack was a hit right?


anyway high is an attack [roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]

Aramail's turn

AlterForm
2008-10-10, 09:19 PM
I don't think so; he's at AC 22 with cover, right? Even with my NW corner, I still can't draw a line that doesn't pass "through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover," since it intersects the corners of the cliff.

AlterForm
2008-10-11, 02:29 PM
Torr Round 6

END TURN

Fan
2008-10-12, 06:10 PM
Knocking one his last two +1 arrows aramail moves to O5 giving them a perfect stright shot at Torr with no cover on his part.
[roll0]
if crit
[roll1]
damage
[roll2]
EDIT: WOOT FTW Crit'd, AND confirmed!
Max damage on first roll as well.
Torr is dead Aramail WINS!
Also just so no confusion can be stated!
First instance of damage to Torr.



technicly i answered my own question.


I will take my shot'
[roll0] (5 dex +1 for the magic arrow, and
+1 Bab)

damage
damage
(1d8+1)[6]
And I'am now seen in O7

And I'am now seen in O7

AlterForm
2008-10-12, 06:29 PM
1: Swim check to avoid going under please.
2: How, praytell, are you critting on a 19 with a longbow?

[EDIT]: Hmmm, I seem to have forgotten to track that damage over the course of the match. :smallredface:

Fan
2008-10-12, 11:37 PM
Oops your right although I did take the 5ft step into non watery area before hand.:smallredface:
[roll0]
Please let me roll a 7, or above.
EDIT: it is made Torr is officaly dead to the world!

chilepepper
2008-10-13, 12:25 AM
High Ref chilepepper

Holy crap... okay... I don't even know where to start. I don't feel comfortable calling this match until I know everything is correct with that move.

Swim Check- if you have +2 strength and -6 armor check penalty, where does the +3 come from?

Also, you need fix your sheet: add ACP to all the skills that are affected.

You also need to provide a CLEAR accounting of everything you have on you right now. Your purchase record / inventory is a mess, and weights aren't even listed. How do you know your encumbrance?

When was the last time you threw up a stat block? (that one goes to both of you)

Fan
2008-10-13, 12:32 AM
High Ref chilepepper

Holy crap... okay... I don't even know where to start. I don't feel comfortable calling this match until I know everything is correct with that move.

Swim Check- if you have +2 strength and -6 armor check penalty, where does the +3 come from?

Also, you need fix your sheet: add ACP to all the skills that are affected.

You also need to provide a CLEAR accounting of everything you have on you right now. Your purchase record / inventory is a mess, and weights aren't even listed. How do you know your encumbrance?

When was the last time you threw up a stat block? (that one goes to both of you)

First post I stated that I sold my shield, and the bonus comes from strength.
everything I have on me is a Long bow, 2 Kua toan Harpoons, A oil of magic weapon, a vial of alchemists frost ()that I purchased thinking it could freeze water as fire turns things to steam I assumed the same for Ice.), and two sun rods with my studded leather armor.
So even with a -2 from armor check I still make it.
also my AAc is 18 due to me having declared Torr as my dodge target.
Also I'm qwell within my 16 strengths encumbrance limit.... studded leather doesn't even wiehg 10lbs, and a Long bow less 5... the rest is simply nelgible.

AlterForm
2008-10-13, 08:44 AM
Last stat block for me was Post 42, at the end of my turn last round. Admittedly, I forgot one last round.

Fan
2008-10-13, 09:34 AM
I'll post one now, and I will state that my last one was on page 2.:smallredface:

Hp: 3/10
Ac:18
In hand: Long bow with +1 arrow knocked,
Position before the move to O5. P5.

chilepepper
2008-10-13, 07:18 PM
Okay, but that's not a crit right? Bows are 20/x3.

edit: I don't have alot of time to spend on the Arena right now. The 5' movement was legal as a move action since it's less than 1/4 of his movement and he passed the swim check even with the correct modifier. Unless there's something about the bow or his attack that changes the crit range on his bow, it's not a critical hit. The rolls are not spoilered, so I'll let the contestants do the math. If that's the match Alterform, let the refs know here or in the Waiting room. If not...

Right now I need from Aramail: either an explanation of how that's a crit, or a declaration that your turn is done.

Fan
2008-10-14, 08:17 AM
Okay, but that's not a crit right? Bows are 20/x3.

edit: I don't have alot of time to spend on the Arena right now. The 5' movement was legal as a move action since it's less than 1/4 of his movement and he passed the swim check even with the correct modifier. Unless there's something about the bow or his attack that changes the crit range on his bow, it's not a critical hit. The rolls are not spoilered, so I'll let the contestants do the math. If that's the match Alterform, let the refs know here or in the Waiting room. If not...

Right now I need from Aramail: either an explanation of how that's a crit, or a declaration that your turn is done.

your right it was not a crit, but even still I have dealt 15 damage to him, and that drops him.
Turn over, and I win.

chilepepper
2008-10-15, 03:51 AM
High Ref chilepepper

Aramail wins.