Thog's STR score?

[gooddragon1]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html

1010 grants a bonus of +500, and with that STR score, Thog could lift the observable universe...?

[Threeshades]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html

1010 grants a bonus of +500, and with that STR score, Thog could lift the observable universe...?

....

:smallannoyed: Yes. Yes Thog can lift the universe....

[Noobfish]

Ooooooooooobviously a joke. :smallsmile:

[Spiryt]

Besides the obvious, there is Power Attack, like stated, bonus from wielding two handed and other thing.

[ShellBullet]

Belkar comments about barbarians were far more amusing this time than last time I read the strip.

[AstralFire]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html

1010 grants a bonus of +500, and with that STR score, Thog could lift the observable universe...?

It's a two-handed weapon. You only need a bonus of +378, or 766 STR.

So Thog can lift the galaxy instead.

:amused:

[Spiryt]

It's a two-handed weapon. You only need a bonus of +378, or 766 STR.

So Thog can lift the galaxy instead.

:amused:

Actually, good whale would be still beyond his capabilities. :smallwink:

[Mando Knight]

Belkar comments about barbarians were far more amusing this time than last time I read the strip.

Indeed... if they're that bad, then why's he one? :smallamused:

[DraPrime]

Besides the obvious explanation that it was an exaggeration done for humor purposes, it's possible that Thog is an incredible min maxer.

[Wreckingrocc]

Well, if he got collossalize'd by that half-elf dude, he could probably lift a lot... I don't really know how much... Probably at least 1,000,000 Ib. though (as a light load).

[Raging Gene Ray]

Thog probably got confused and thought he was in a Final Fantasy game when he tried to figure out the appropriate amount of damage.

[T-O-E]

Indeed... if they're that bad, then why's he one? :smallamused:

Ever changing opinions are chaotic traits.

[Arbitrarity]

Lesee. Thog has +3 greataxe, and 12'th level. No obscure PRC's, so... no more PA than leap attack. He isn't leaping, so maximum power attack is 24. So 540 damage, or +360 bonus, or 730 strength. That's... Hm.

1600 lb * 4^70. Or 1600 * 2^140, or ~16*10^44 lb
~8*10^41 tons, Or...~4*10^14 suns.

The mass of the galaxy is ~5.8*10^11 solar masses.

So Thog can lift about 600 galaxies, give or take. Not bad.

[Lord_Butters_I]

Lesee. Thog has +3 greataxe, and 12'th level. No obscure PRC's, so... no more PA than leap attack. He isn't leaping, so maximum power attack is 24. So 540 damage, or +360 bonus, or 730 strength. That's... Hm.

1600 lb * 4^70. Or 1600 * 2^140, or ~16*10^44 lb
~8*10^41 tons, Or...~4*10^14 suns.

The mass of the galaxy is ~5.8*10^11 solar masses.

So Thog can lift about 600 galaxies, give or take. Not bad.

Could the planet even contain that powerful of a being? I would think that if an individual was that strong he would shatter the planet by walking.

[Kish]

Indeed... if they're that bad, then why's he one? :smallamused:

Belkar? Hypocritically bashing other people for something which he does? Never happen. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0107.html)

[AstralFire]

Lesee. Thog has +3 greataxe, and 12'th level. No obscure PRC's, so... no more PA than leap attack. He isn't leaping, so maximum power attack is 24. So 540 damage, or +360 bonus, or 730 strength. That's... Hm.

1600 lb * 4^70. Or 1600 * 2^140, or ~16*10^44 lb
~8*10^41 tons, Or...~4*10^14 suns.

The mass of the galaxy is ~5.8*10^11 solar masses.

So Thog can lift about 600 galaxies, give or take. Not bad.


So what was that bit about whales?

[Spiryt]

Lesee. Thog has +3 greataxe, and 12'th level. No obscure PRC's, so... no more PA than leap attack. He isn't leaping, so maximum power attack is 24. So 540 damage, or +360 bonus, or 730 strength. That's... Hm.

1600 lb * 4^70. Or 1600 * 2^140, or ~16*10^44 lb
~8*10^41 tons, Or...~4*10^14 suns.

The mass of the galaxy is ~5.8*10^11 solar masses.

So Thog can lift about 600 galaxies, give or take. Not bad.

Maybe I can't really figure out the Math desrcibed in "Carrying and exploration, beaucause of my english, but I though it should be just:

730 - 20 = 710

Now

multiply the numbers in that for by 4 for every ten points the creature’s strength is above the score for that row.


so 4 x 71 (710 is 71 "tens" above the 20) = 284

284 x 400 pounds (maximum load for 20 str) = 113600

Multiply it by 2 to get maximum weight he can lift of the ground for 227200 pounds.
It's more than 103 tonnes. Sick, but not galactic scale.

[AstralFire]

You multiply it by another 4 for every 10 points.

[Spiryt]

You multiply it by another 4 for every 10 points.

Indeed, it occured to me a minute after sending my post.

If so, then indeed 700 - ish strenght will give astronomical results.

[Theodoriph]

That panel didn't actually occur in reality, in the same way that Haley wasn't really a pirate queen and the dice don't really talk. It was a fantasy. They were using their imaginations to imagine what said scenarios could look like.

[Guchalez]

But can he do this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0017.html):elan:?

[EndlessWrath]

Its over 9000!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik)

[T-O-E]

From careful analysis and research, I have concluded that the character known as 'Thog' has a strength of plot.

[chiasaur11]

From careful analysis and research, I have concluded that the character known as 'Thog' has a strength of plot.

AKA:
.01% the strength of O-Chul.

Give or take.

[Shadic]

Actually, Thog's strength is equal to O-Chul's Constitution.

[Demented]

AKA:
.01% the constitution of O-Chul.

Give or take.

Fixed. =P

Going by previous calculations, that means Thog can drag, under optimal conditions, 6000 galaxies behind him. Just try to imagine the torque those legs would produce.

Also, Thog can barely break down a 3-foot-thick stone wall.

[CTrombley]

From careful analysis and research, I have concluded that the character known as 'Thog' has a strength of plot.

Remove all that stuff about Thog and your research will still be right.

[AstralFire]

Also, Thog can barely break down a 3-foot-thick stone wall.

A classic case of epic salmon.

[mlsq42]

So we're all assuming Thog is incapable of having spells cast on him?

All we need is a few dozen wizards with home-ruled stackable Prolonged Bull's Strength...

[Linkavitch]

I agree with the people that say that that particular scene was just the character's imaginations...'cuz he has trouble breaking the steel bars of the jail he's in until Elan incites him to Rage.

[SilentDungeon]

Disregarding the above post to be able to continue this thread. (no offense to its poster.) If thog can lift galaxies with his str score, why did he need to rage to break simple iron bars? My Barbarian can break iron bars at lvl 7. prehaps thog's STR is selective?

-SD

[drengnikrafe]

Am I the only one that noticed that Thog said...

"I use power attack", but he only talked about his battleaxe damage. If he were using a battleaxe, and he used power attack, he would deal "1d12 + 1d6 + (whatever)". Clearly, since he didn't point out the "1d6" (well, at least 1d6), he has no idea what he's doing.

[AstralFire]

Am I the only one that noticed that Thog said...

"I use power attack", but he only talked about his battleaxe damage. If he were using a battleaxe, and he used power attack, he would deal "1d12 + 1d6 + (whatever)". Clearly, since he didn't point out the "1d6" (well, at least 1d6), he has no idea what he's doing.

Er, what? Since when does power attack add +1d6?

[Kranden]

Only Thog knows for sure and the answer he is most likely to give would be

"Lots"

or :P

"Thog smash puny numbers!"

[AceOfFools]

Here's a wild theory:

math numbers make thog brain hurt. thog power attack for 1d12+567 points of damage.

[drengnikrafe]

Er, what? Since when does power attack add +1d6?

What? Isn't that the point of power attack? You activate power attack, and for every 2 points of attack roll you sacrifice, you add 1d6 additional damage to your damage rolls (if you hit)? Or... have I been working off the wrong information?

EDIT: Any guesses on who was working off of an old house rule?

In any case, Thog strikes me as the type of person...oid... that would sacrifice all of his bonus points to attack rolls to hope for more damage. Thus, since he's weilding it in 2 hands, he could have... no, wait, that strength is still too high to make sense.
...
Huh.

[mlsq42]

Maybe that guy he's about to kill is like Level -436 and thus the damage is much more severe?

[Spiryt]

What? Isn't that the point of power attack? You activate power attack, and for every 2 points of attack roll you sacrifice, you add 1d6 additional damage to your damage rolls (if you hit)? Or... have I been working off the wrong information?
Huh.

Nah, THAT would be silly powerful. For every - 1 to attack, you get + 1 to damage. +2 in case of two handed weapon.

And anyway : Of course it's a damn joke. But pointless calculation's are fun :smalltongue:

[ericgrau]

18+2 + 3 (levels) + items = 23 + items
23-29. Maybe a little lower if he has a 16 or 17 base.

Given that "18 charisma" or "18 int" is used to mean "high", and other parts of the comic, items may play a small roll. I'm leaning towards strength 24-25.

[chiasaur11]

We're ignoring an important fact.

The guy Thog is about to hit has at least 531 hp.

That is one epic con score.

[Neopolis]

We're ignoring an important fact.

The guy Thog is about to hit has at least 531 hp.

That is one epic con score.
A challenger appears, O-Chul!

[chiasaur11]

A challenger appears, O-Chul!

Hey, let's not get hasty here.

[Bayar]

Well, Power attack...1 point of BAB into 1 point of damage, double for 2H weapos. Rage gives +4 STR and can get to +6 at level 1 and +8 at level 20. Since Thog is a multiclass fighter2/Barb ? and not an epic character, he could have +4 (when he was in Dungeon of Dorukan story arc) or +6 in the current story. Why ? Becaus eback then, the OotS party was roughly level 9.

Now, lets assume he is a level 20 character, with Greater rage he gets +6 to STR. He uses power attack to convert all 20 BAB points into 40 damage. He is a half-orc so he has a +2 racial bonus to STR (+4 if there are half-orc with orc traits houserule). Assuming he starts with 18 base STR at level 1, and pumping it every 4 levels, he has a STR score of:

18 base + 2 racial + 6 rage + 5 stat increases = 31

Not all that bad.

With a +5 Manual of Gainful exercise and a belt of giant strenght +6 he pumps his STR score to 42. That gives him a +16 damage bonus with 1h weapons or a 24 bonus for 2H weapons.

The total damage so far is 64.

Dont know what bonus a +3 to a greataxe gives, actually I still dont understand those +Xs to weapons or armor...

How to pump it up even more? Leap attack gives you double the amount of power attack damage bonus (as per the errata) so the bonus damage rises to 104. From here on, I dont know what to increase for him to get more damage bonus.

[Laurentio II]

Thog is bald. Not smart (at best) and min-maxer. Probably, he frequented the same math class of this guy (http://www.goblinscomic.com/d/20060422.html).
I won't take his damage declaration for good...

[gooddragon1]

For all we know, it could actually be a colossal circumstance bonus to damage. Maybe Thog hex edited a potion of bulls strength... still, it would be funny to count that comic as serious.