AMAZING! the things you notice when you read a strip twice!

[Gamerlord]

Isn't it AMAZING the things you notice when you read a strip for the second time?

For example, in #144 i never noticed the flying belkar till i reread it for the second(or was it third) time!

[Surfing HalfOrc]

My favorite "Subtle" detail is the steadily dimming outdoor light after the battle.

It wasn't obvious from one strip to the next, but over the course of several days, it became clear the sun was setting on Azure City...

Well, that was freakin' grim, now wasn't it!

[mr.fizzypop]

yah they're all over the place, in comic 456 I never really noticed the hobgoblin falling off the mammoth.

[Ronan]

And a nice thing to do whenever a new comic takes long to be out.

The last time I did it there were 5:smallsmile:

fresh ones just waiting for me:smalltongue:

[Niley]

Well, it only assures us of Giant's perfect craft... Every detail counts!

[Theodoric]

I never noticed Thog changing into the Hulk in #387 untill I reconfigured my monitor. And noticed his quote about his pants turning purple.

It has now even become my favorite comic to date, with the huge amount of jokes in it.

[stabbybelkar]

how about :sabine:'s eyes turning red in strip #53 and also her semi transformation in #57

[Sir_Hobbit]

Yep, it took a second reading to catch the subtlety in 571 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html). When the lizardmen port in, they say "-port.". and when they leave, they say "tele-". Apparently, in the OotS-verse, teleport activates halfway through the incantation.

[Bedinsis]

On the second readthrough, I discovered that one goblin in # 93 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0093.html) had braces. It made me snicker.

[someonenonotyou]

the chimea trigak when he dies GAK GAK GAK! hehe just noticed it a little bit ago

[drengnikrafe]

The first time I read through the comic, I was too blind to see that Haley liked Elan until around strip 400. The second time, I noticed/understood a lot more of the things she did or said, and their thinly veiled meanings.

[Mariel Dragon]

I didn't notice V said ye and corrected hirself in 599...until I read it on the forums

[dps]

On the second readthrough, I discovered that one goblin in # 93 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0093.html) had braces. It made me snicker.

Following your link to that strip, I just noticed the Cure poster on teen Haley's wall.

[Wikkin]

Following your link to that strip, I just noticed the Cure poster on teen Haley's wall.

And following that link, we also have an idea of what Haley's father looks like.

[Prowl]

Following your link to that strip, I just noticed the Cure poster on teen Haley's wall.

Look closer, it's not just "The Cure"... it's "The Cure (light wounds)".

Definitely, it's the attention to detail that makes this my favorite comic.

[Grey Watcher]

If you read the comic where the Order gets their prophecies from the Oracle (#331 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0331.html)), look at the cutaway panels to Xykon and his horde very carefully, you'll see they're actually arranged to be a single, complete picture (partially masked by the intervening Roy/Oracle panels). I only noticed that today. An excellent touch!

[Chronos]

OK, that multi-panel picture is cool. Thanks, Watcher!

[Kobold-Bard]

the chimea trigak when he dies GAK GAK GAK! hehe just noticed it a little bit ago

I like that one.

[drengnikrafe]

I like that one, Watcher. That is seriously cool.

[mr.fizzypop]

If you read the comic where the Order gets their prophecies from the Oracle (#331 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0331.html)), look at the cutaway panels to Xykon and his horde very carefully, you'll see they're actually arranged to be a single, complete picture (partially masked by the intervening Roy/Oracle panels). I only noticed that today. An excellent touch!

I don't think it was "excellent touch" as much as "easier than making 3 seperate panels"

[Kobold-Bard]

Xykon flying Redcloak away from the explosion (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0463.html).

[Lira]

I find it pretty cool when I'm looking through the book compilations and I can see things I've never noticed before because the detail is better. For example, the first panel of #450 has a lot of little things, and I didn't look very closely at them online, but in the book I can more clearly see Tsukiko casting a spell on the left side, and Belkar on his pile of hobgoblins, etc.

[Ron Miel]

Something it took me a couple of readings to spot:

Does a 21 save? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html)

Wait a minute, I had a 22. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0486.html)

[Szilard]

I find it pretty cool when I'm looking through the book compilations and I can see things I've never noticed before because the detail is better. For example, the first panel of #450 has a lot of little things, and I didn't look very closely at them online, but in the book I can more clearly see Tsukiko casting a spell on the left side, and Belkar on his pile of hobgoblins, etc.

As well as Roy in the middle of the battlefield.

[mockingbyrd7]

Something it took me a couple of readings to spot:

Does a 21 save? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html)

Wait a minute, I had a 22. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0486.html)

I NEVER CAUGHT THAT! Oh my god, that is brilliant.

I'd always assumed he was reading his ability scores or something. "I had a Wisdom of 22?!" or something to that effect.

[Lira]

As well as Roy in the middle of the battlefield.Yeah, tho I noticed that fine in the web version.

[Sir_Hobbit]

Something it took me a couple of readings to spot:

Does a 21 save? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html)

Wait a minute, I had a 22. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0486.html)

Whoa, that trumps all the others for me. I always assumed it was just a ticket number or something. If the others didn't prove all the work Rich puts into this comic, this definitetly will.

[DrivinAllNight]

If you read the comic where the Order gets their prophecies from the Oracle (#331 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0331.html)), look at the cutaway panels to Xykon and his horde very carefully, you'll see they're actually arranged to be a single, complete picture (partially masked by the intervening Roy/Oracle panels). I only noticed that today. An excellent touch!

WOW, WOW, WOW THAT IS TO TOTALLY FRIKKEN AWESOME :) AMAZING NO ONE SEEMED TO NOTICE IT BEFORE,
sorry for the all caps, but that strip looks so different now, Thank You, Thank You
D :)

[Cizak]

Something it took me a couple of readings to spot:

Does a 21 save? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html)

Wait a minute, I had a 22. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0486.html)

Haha, cool! I always thought he was readin a ticket or something, but that makes a whole lot more sense :P


And somethig I discvovered just now, when I was reading some of the old comics:

The angel says that they had to get rid of the machine because of too many complaints about unintentional colon tumors. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0040.html)

Well, look at the last panel (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0007.html) :smalltongue:

[Deepkicker]

Something it took me a couple of readings to spot:

Does a 21 save? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html)

Wait a minute, I had a 22. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0486.html)

Yeah, that one's nearly impossible to get when you're reading the strips as they're updated. But when I went back and reread them all together I was like 'Nice one, Giant. Nice.'

[Caractacus]

I don't think it was "excellent touch" as much as "easier than making 3 seperate panels"

I really don't get your point. If one does three single panels with just a few guys in each, how is that more work that creating a larger picture and then editing out sections and rearranging it to fit behind other panels? I mean - you could leave out all the dragon wings and elements and just have Xykon in the first one...etc

At best, the amount of drawing is the same for the three panels as the characters are the same size as they would be anyway. Given that Rich has templates for all the main characters, having to cut and edit would make more work, not less, surely? :smallconfused:

P.S. If I'm going to be all pedantic and sad, I should also say that it's 'separate' not 'seperate'... /Pedantry :smalltongue:

[Unregistered]

I just re-read OtOoPCs and realized two things for the first time:

In this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0216.html) strip, Roy explains that he only got a C- in his Attack of Opportunity class and in the prequel we learn that

the night before his AOO test, Roy couldn't study because of the party going on and his dad showing up, telling him about Xykon and the Oath.

Also in OtOoPCs:


Page 21, when Elan announces Sir Francis to the "wretched hive of scum and villainy" looks just like the bandit king from the bandit arc.

[Greep]

heh, if you really want little side gimmicks, girl genius has an average of several every comic :D

But yeah, I laughed so hard when I first caught the "I rolled a 22!" when I reread the comic.

[Helanna]

In one of the recent comics, I didn't notice Kazumi crying when Durkon told her the baby was alright until it was mentioned on the forums (It doesn't help that I'm very unobservant when reading comics).


But yeah, I laughed so hard when I first caught the "I rolled a 22!" when I reread the comic.

So remember kids, math is very important. Just think how much sooner the comic could have ended if that guy made his save and defeated Redcloak!


But the sheer amount of detail, time, and effort put into this comic astounds me. Who says a stick figure comic should take less time to make? It's one of the reasons OOTS is my favorite webcomic.

[ref]

We don't know if a 22 would have saved.

[DBear]

In strip 284, Haley at the end says, "Elan, that's it! Elan, you're a genius!"
For a long time, I had no idea what she meant, 'til I finally put it together with 288, where she reveals that Shojo was using 'obfuscating stupidity'.

[FriskyDingo]

Haha I was just rereading through the archives and I came upon this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0586.html) - I never noticed the sound effects in the second panel before :smalltongue:

[dehro]

Isn't it AMAZING the things you notice when you read a strip for the second time?

For example, in #144 i never noticed the flying belkar till i reread it for the second(or was it third) time!

that, and only now I got the "hi, ho silver" thing...

[Dreamthiev]

Something it took me a couple of readings to spot:

Does a 21 save? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html)

Wait a minute, I had a 22. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0486.html)

Oooh, very nice catch. I too thought he was reading a line ticket and had got jacked on his place in line. :smallsmile:

[dehro]

anyhoo, I think it can be safely said that theGiant masters the art of pacing his gags...I think he's on a par with pratchett on this..(which, coming from me means high prize)
am I alone in thinking back to the "elevator moment" in the blues brothers movie, when I read the last comic?...the pause and the munching on yambalaya just add that little touch that tells us the giant really knows his stuff

[ArkH]

Something it took me a couple of readings to spot:

Does a 21 save? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html)

Wait a minute, I had a 22. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0486.html)

You may have already noticed this one, but that same strip (486), you can see the blue-haired girl Haley comforted before the battle. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0417.html) Now isn't that happy?

It looks like she's smiling, though, so I guess it's cool with her.

edit: Apparently not. Aww. I like my interpretation better.

[Ron Miel]

I'm not sure, but I think it's a different girl. This one (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0448.html). I could be wrong, though. We definitely see eye patch guy and blue beard from the throne room, so I think it's her.

[Bedinsis]

Just a little detail, but...

Tsukiko's beams corresponds to her eyecolors (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0446.html).

By the way, is "beam" the most correct term?

[PePe QuiCoSE]

Around comic 100 Rich dropped the curving lines into straight lines to outline each strip. The interesting part is that there was never made a reference to it :smalltongue:.

[R.O.A.]

I'm not sure, but I think it's a different girl. This one (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0448.html). I could be wrong, though. We definitely see eye patch guy and blue beard from the throne room, so I think it's her.

yep, it's definatly this girl, not the other one, because she's got white armour, not metal.

[Outsidelime]

Here's one: One of the paladins that Xykon accidentally views with his Teevo (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0415.html) is Sir Francois, Elan's former liege from On The Origin of PCs.

Also in that same strip, the Teevo picks up "Frudu" with "the Ming".... Frudu also appears in On The Origin as one of the potential party-members (along with a Gandalfy wizard) that rejects the offer to join Roy's team.

~Josh

[Belkarsbadside1]

In 573, Haley and Celia are talking about the same boots of speed that Haley talked about with V at the beginning of the comic.

[Gargor]

I think i found a connection to the prequels. Frudu, samwuse and the ming appear as possible team members in origin of the PCS.

[Wreckingrocc]

I noticed in 57 how when the Linear guild makes their escape, while Sabine and Zz'ditri fly off, Thog jumps, carrying a heavilly armored cleric.

[Lira]

I noticed in 57 how when the Linear guild makes their escape, while Sabine and Zz'ditri fly off, Thog jumps, carrying a heavilly armored cleric.Nah, Zz'dtri cast fly on him off panel (someone asked the same thing when the strip was posted and that's what the Giant said, don't make me dig up the post).

[Ron Miel]

I don't think he's jumping. But now you mention it, he's in classic Superman flying pose (http://www.fathead.com/_landing_images/land-Superman2.jpg), with one arm forward and one knee bent. You can see it more clearly in the strips (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0059.html)that follow (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0060.html).


Have you noticed Girard (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0196.html)'s hair and goatee? Plus the fact that he swears a tunic, chainmail and cloak. Also high charisma (heart heart heart) and he uses illusions. Doesn't he look like Elan/ Nale? At least before Elan's costume change. I'm convinced they will turn out to be related in some way.

[Ron Miel]

A great example of how the story arc is planned far in advance, Rich foreshadowed V's murder of Lord Kubota nearly 200 strips earlier (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0399.html).

[Wreckingrocc]

I don't think he's jumping. But now you mention it, he's in classic Superman flying pose (http://www.fathead.com/_landing_images/land-Superman2.jpg), with one arm forward and one knee bent. You can see it more clearly in the strips (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0059.html)that follow (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0060.html).
Ahh, yeah, in 60, Dispel Magic makes him fall.

OK. Works for me. I think a super jump would have been funnier, though.

[Grey Watcher]

Ahh, yeah, in 60, Dispel Magic makes him fall.

OK. Works for me. I think a super jump would have been funnier, though.

Thank goodness we put that one to rest. I don't think I could've handled a resurgence of the "Thog can fly?!?!?!?" threads.... Man that was a weird one.

Admittedly, I got the "Wait, I had a 22" gag right away....

And the Frudu and the Ming thing got started, I think, in the bonus material for Dungeon Crawlin' Fools....

[Renegade Paladin]

Yeah, that one's nearly impossible to get when you're reading the strips as they're updated.
No it isn't. :smallconfused:

[Enlong]

In OtooPCs
The "owners" of the "Rob-U While-U-Sleep Inn" are Crystal and the Chuck from the same Thieves' Guild Haley was in. I always thought that was a nice touch

Also, in the most recent one, I only noticed the sign next to the elevator after a second read:

EMPLOYEES ONLY
Enforced by Honor System

SO appropriate.

[Surfing HalfOrc]

One minor one I really liked was when Roy says "Blue Warrior needs food, BADLY (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0224.html)."

I never knew it was a reference to "Gauntlet, Dark Legacy" until I played the game and remember hearing that as one of my warriors grew weaker as the game went on...

Subtle Geek Humor. To ask for more would be selfish.

[Chronos]

I never knew it was a reference to "Gauntlet, Dark Legacy" until I played the game and remember hearing that as one of my warriors grew weaker as the game went on...Bah, kids these days. It's not a reference to Gauntlet: Dark Legacy, it's a reference to Gauntlet. Just plain Gauntlet, from way back in the day when it didn't need a subtitle.

[Ron Miel]

Not correct. In the original Gauntlet warrior was just plain Warrior, with no colour, and there was only one in play. It was Gauntlet II that up to four players could all play Warrior, distinguished by different colours.

[Heroic]

Another example of this is Haley's tattoo when she's dancing with Nale

[Kabarakh]

:mitd: wait, what tattoo?

[littlechicory]

Seconding Kabarakh. I think that's the combination of Nale's hands and the strings on Haley's dress in that scene.

[Ron Miel]

Although her tattoo is visible here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0468.html)

[Phishfood]

Although her tattoo is visible here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0468.html)

Good catch....hmmm....now watch the swarms of "what does it say?" threads.

(my money is on "I <3 bards"):tongue:

[Surfing HalfOrc]

Good catch....hmmm....now watch the swarms of "what does it say?" threads.

(my money is on "I <3 bards"):tongue:

I think the consensus was I <3 GP

(I love Gold Pieces. The last symbol may have been a coin)

[Firestar27]

In #468, panels 2 and 6, Belkar made jokes that started with "heh, heh" and ended by repeating something that was already said. It was a little funny. Then in #470, Belkar gives us: "Heh, heh, human copses". I didn't notice it at all the first time.

[Vizen]

Does it look like Roy's mum is in a wedding dress in that picture (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html) on the counter? Never noticed that picture before..

[Spiky]

Around comic 100 Rich dropped the curving lines into straight lines to outline each strip. The interesting part is that there was never made a reference to it :smalltongue:.

Actually, that was definitely discussed on the forum.


Bah, kids these days. It's not a reference to Gauntlet: Dark Legacy, it's a reference to Gauntlet. Just plain Gauntlet, from way back in the day when it didn't need a subtitle.

I think you mean Gauntlet II, where you could choose character type. And the narrator would actually say the color to distinguish. Didn't in the original, original.



As mentioned earlier, I also missed the Trigak vs Gak!Gak!Gak! joke until someone pointed it out. That made me read much more carefully and I seldom miss anything now. (loved the "hurts" sound effect :smallbiggrin:) Some I don't understand I can recognize as some sort of joke or pun and usually come to the forum to see what it means. Generally there is already an explanation.

[Thanatos 51-50]

Heh, heh.

Look at the title of 601 closely. I missed that the first time around.

[Cleverdan22]

Does it look like Roy's mum is in a wedding dress in that picture (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html) on the counter? Never noticed that picture before..

I actually didn't notice that Eric was in the panel until someone pointed it out.

[Lydronk]

Have you noticed Girard (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0196.html)'s hair and goatee? Plus the fact that he swears a tunic, chainmail and cloak. Also high charisma (heart heart heart) and he uses illusions. Doesn't he look like Elan/ Nale? At least before Elan's costume change. I'm convinced they will turn out to be related in some way.


:smallsigh: They are related. Each member of that group is equal to an OotS member in a manner. Soon is Roy, since they both are leaders and have the same alignment. Dorukan, with his use of arcane magic, is connected to V. And Girard is, Elan. Lirian, I think, is connected to Durkon because they both use divine magic, while the halfling whose name I don't know is equal to Haley, since she has romantic feelings to Girard, who seems to be represented by Elan in the OotS and carries a bow. Belkar is Kraagor, who seems to be a 'mean' person and not loved, just as Belkar.

Also, we can get clues by examining how each member of the Order of Crayon(was this the name?) are related to each other. But I am to lazy to search for them! :P

[Trizap]

Does it look like Roy's mum is in a wedding dress in that picture (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html) on the counter? Never noticed that picture before..

and that is actually the first appearance of Roy's lil brother

[Kish]

the Order of Crayon(was this the name?)
The Order of the Scribble.

[Solmage]

Something it took me a couple of readings to spot:

Does a 21 save? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html)

Wait a minute, I had a 22. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0486.html)

OMG! I never noticed this one - that makes that strip SO AWESOME! =)

[Spiky]

I actually didn't notice that Eric was in the panel until someone pointed it out.

Since we're on #113, that was also the spot where it mentions Horace chopping off a dragon's head. And then Roy did the same later. I was instantly disappointed that G didn't use "THWACK" as the sound effect when Roy did his in #441.

So there's a neat little trick that SHOULD belong in this thread. But now it doesn't. :roy:

[AngryRussian16]

I just noticed in this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0089.html) that Haley calls Roy a corpse-to-be

A general insult, but still, its there :tongue:

[The Berkeleian]

Belkar notices that this store window (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0483.html) has been looted -- it's the same one that Elan stole from here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0471.html).

[The Rose Dragon]

I just noticed in this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0089.html) that Haley calls Roy a corpse-to-be

A general insult, but still, its there :tongue:

How do you know it's Roy and Haley, exactly?

[AngryRussian16]

How do you know it's Roy and Haley, exactly?


In the seventh panel they refer to each other by name

"Wait, I think I've got it. Roy, do you want us to go forwards, or backwards." (Obviously Giant forgot to end that in a question mark

"Forward, Haley."

"Right, lets go then"

[Kaytara]

How do you know it's Roy and Haley, exactly?

Actually, from the tone I'm almost certain Belkar was the one to say 'corpse-to-be'. Yes, Haley and Roy called each other by name two panels earlier but that doesn't mean Haley was necessarily the one who responded to Roy's complaint when they all crashed together again.

Here's something else I've found. :)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0212.html
:belkar:"Hey, ogres make a very satisfying thump when they hit the ground. What can I say, I'm a simple man with simple tastes."
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0219.html
*ogre dies*
*THUMP*
:belkar:"Ahhhh... There it is."


:D

[Forealms]

I just noticed something no more than 2 minutes ago, though this might have been mentioned in the the thread for the comic.

In #578 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0578.html), check out the last golem on the bridge. It's Mr. Met (http://loot-ninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mr-met.jpg) :smallbiggrin:

[Kish]

Actually, from the tone I'm almost certain Belkar was the one to say 'corpse-to-be'.
Way back when that first came out, Rich responded to someone who thought it was Haley by saying that Haley would not have called Roy a "corpse-to-be."

Which member of the Order would have, he seemed to consider too obvious to state.

[Gilthans]

I just noticed something no more than 2 minutes ago, though this might have been mentioned in the the thread for the comic.

In #578 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0578.html), check out the last golem on the bridge. It's Mr. Met (http://loot-ninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mr-met.jpg) :smallbiggrin:

ROFL!!!

I actually noticed every detail mentioned here, but this one is new and SO HILARIOUS :smallbiggrin:


The giant rocks :smallbiggrin:

[mikeejimbo]

I never noticed Belkar whispering "gullible" in strip 208.

[Cleverdan22]

I never noticed the "unleash the fury" connection in the wiener dog strip, and the first appearance of Hinjo's mount. I understood what Belkar was mad about, but didn't notice the phrasing.

Here: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0140.html

And here: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0432.html

[XenoTherapy]

I never noticed Belkar whispering "gullible" in strip 208.

Where? :confused:

[Rogue 7]

I just noticed something no more than 2 minutes ago, though this might have been mentioned in the the thread for the comic.

In #578 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0578.html), check out the last golem on the bridge. It's Mr. Met (http://loot-ninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mr-met.jpg) :smallbiggrin:

Oh God. I know the Giant's from Queens, but...

Ah well, it's pretty funny, even if it does remind me how my Mets collapsed.

[Cleverdan22]

I just noticed something no more than 2 minutes ago, though this might have been mentioned in the the thread for the comic.

In #578 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0578.html), check out the last golem on the bridge. It's Mr. Met (http://loot-ninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mr-met.jpg) :smallbiggrin:

Yeah, I caught that one. Heh heh...Mr. Met.

[Ron Miel]

I spotted the basedball head straight away. I didn't know it's a team's mascot, though.

[ref]

I don't see any whispering in 208, either.

[Tyrael]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0491.html

"Wait just one cotton-pickin' minute!"

Does this mean Eugene has a very faint Southern accent? Roy doesn't seem to have inherited it, though...

Or it could be just a phrase, but I like my theory better. :smallbiggrin:

[Grey Watcher]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0491.html

"Wait just one cotton-pickin' minute!"

Does this mean Eugene has a very faint Southern accent? Roy doesn't seem to have inherited it, though...

Or it could be just a phrase, but I like my theory better. :smallbiggrin:

I think it's one of those phrases that's gained a little bit of traction outside the South. Probably due to characters like Looney Tunes' Foghorn Leghorn (who's supposed to be Southern) using it in nationally distributed media.

[Linkavitch]

Around comic 100 Rich dropped the curving lines into straight lines to outline each strip. The interesting part is that there was never made a reference to it :smalltongue:.

I wondered about that, but as I was reading it, I was not on the forum at the time, so I didn't mention it.

[Euron]

Durkon is married. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0150.html)

Actually, maybe, maybe not. Don't think it's the same dwarf.

[Belkarsbadside1]

No its not. If you look, the dwarf has a car under its eye.

[Lira]

No its not. If you look, the dwarf has a car under its eye.A car?!?! Where!?! :smalltongue: Sorry, couldn't resist.

Hmm, another thing I didn't notice till I read the comic again was the little "whoosh" in panel 17 of 428.

[B. Dandelion]

Durkon says specifically that he has no wife (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0076.html) and also hints pretty broadly that Hilgya was the first (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0083.html) woman he was intimate with.

Guy does look a lot like him, though.

[Kaytara]

I'm deeply amused by Belkar's actions in this strip: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0085.html
Panel 8: :belkar:(The power to inflict bodily harm was always mine. I just needed to use it more often.) Like so.
(Offscreen): Gaaah!!!
Panel 11: Roy walks into the panel with a dagger in his side. ^^

[Chronos]

Guy does look a lot like him, though.He's got a scar, a slightly different skin tone, a differently-shaped beard, a different belt, no holy symbol, a red shield, and an axe instead of a hammer. In what way do they look the same?

[Ron Miel]

First time I saw the strip I thought it was Durkon. It took me a moment to realise that it wasn't. They are similar enough to cause momentary confusion.

[ShaggyMarco]

I don't see any whispering in 208, either.

Ha! He "whispered" GULLIBLE!

[Mc. Lovin']

Where? :confused:


I don't see any whispering in 208, either.

... :smallsigh:

[fang_q]

Following your link to that strip, I just noticed the Cure poster on teen Haley's wall.

Hey, that was what I was going to post! More or less, anyway

[SliderDaFeral]

A great example of how the story arc is planned far in advance, Rich foreshadowed V's murder of Lord Kubota nearly 200 strips earlier (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0399.html).

I'm not so sure it would be premediated murder in the traditional sense, but it does give you an idea as to where V is coming from and why (s)he disintegrated Kubota. When it comes to recurring villains, V favors expedience over justice.

:vaarsuvius: Now can we PLEASE resume saving the world?

[Tre of the Wood]

I liked Mordor (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0510.html) in the last panal here, complete w/ Barad-dûr.

[hamishspence]

Murder does not have to be premeditated. Second degree murder is a possible charge. And the charge Belkar was on, till Roy persuaded Hinjo to downgrade it (we know this because Tsusiko mentions it, and Belkar suggests even 2nd degree is a "rip-off" since he premediated.)

[archon_huskie]

Good catch....hmmm....now watch the swarms of "what does it say?" threads.

(my money is on "I <3 bards"):tongue:

That is not a tattoo. That is her scar from when she lost her wings. See haley is a half Angel and she believes she is not Good enough because she does not have her wings.

[lord of kobolds]

Just a little detail, but...

Tsukiko's beams corresponds to her eyecolors (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0446.html).

By the way, is "beam" the most correct term?

They also correspond to what type of spell she is casting.
Left hand, light blue= divine
Right hand Dark blue= arcane


Also, When Roy chops off xykon's head in 13, the sound effects say "snicker-snack!

[hamishspence]

Any amount of celestial for Haley seems a bit of a stretch.

However, angels (not half-angels) with torn-off wings, cast down to the material plane, exist in the Eberron setting (Sharn City of Towers has, I think, stats for them) They specialize in building cults that worship them.

[Outsidelime]

Okay, I just stumbled across one.

Strip #174 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0174.html), a cloaked Miko is holding... something... when she's talking to Gortok the Barbarian. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what it is. Something green and brown and... drippy.

So I look back to Gortok's first appearance (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0132.html), maybe there's a clue there.

Bingo! It's a PAMPHLET! :smallbiggrin:

Hilarious!

~Josh

[Ron Miel]

Good catch, Josh. I didn't spot that.

[Jan Mattys]

I like how in this last panel (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0087.html) the creature just behind the medusa is petrified
:smallbiggrin:

[someonenonotyou]

I like how in this last panel (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0087.html) the creature just behind the medusa is petrified
:smallbiggrin:

and also the tenticles in the frist stal :smallbiggrin:

[DeviledEggs]

I didnt see any whispering in #208:smallconfused:

[Vizen]

Heh. Have you looked up the meaning of the word "Gullible"?

[Ron Miel]

Have you looked up the meaning of the word "Gullible"?

No, I tried www.dictionary.com but there's no definition listed.

[jolus]

In this strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0186.html) , V "cannot help but notice that the disintegrated remains of a dragon are indistinguishable from those of a human, or a halfling, or a dwarf".

However, the look a bit different here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0595.html).

But maybe that is due to the location difference, as a cavern opposed to a ship.

[Mr. Scaly]

Did anyone else notice how nameless Cleric and Shojo have the same face? I thought that was a nice touch for a delirious hallucination.

[Kaytara]

Did anyone else notice how nameless Cleric and Shojo have the same face? I thought that was a nice touch for a delirious hallucination.

Um, how exactly do they have the same face?

[Ron Miel]

Have the same face? I don't see any resemblence.

Hinjo, maybe a little. Similar shape hair and beard, but a different colour. Shojo, not even slightly.

[Teral]

The both have baggy eyes (though it probably just mean they're old), apart from that I don't see it either.

One from Start of Darkness, I didn't catch the first time (or even the second time) I read the book:
With his dying breath Right-Eye says "Goodbye ... Redcloak" after a lifetime of addressing Redcloak as 'Brother', effectively telling him he no longer consider him family or even someone he know (afterall he's not using Redcloak's given name either) anymore. When I caught it the third time, it made Xykon's final smack-down all the more crushing. Must've grown so accustomed to 'Redcloak' I glanced over it.

[Kaytara]

The both have baggy eyes (though it probably just mean they're old), apart from that I don't see it either.

One from Start of Darkness, I didn't catch the first time (or even the second time) I read the book:
With his dying breath Right-Eye says "Goodbye ... Redcloak" after a lifetime of addressing Redcloak as 'Brother', effectively telling him he no longer consider him family or even someone he know (afterall he's not using Redcloak's given name either) anymore. When I caught it the third time, it made Xykon's final smack-down all the more crushing. Must've grown so accustomed to 'Redcloak' I glanced over it.

Yeah, that just made the scene that much more poignant. O_O Especially seeing as it was Redcloak who'd objected to using those nicknames all the time....

[Harbajar]

Having re-read the web comics again picked up on one from ThorPrayer (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0007.html)

Last two panels
- "Choose the tumor..."
:durkon: Three no crap
- you have chosen - Colon Tumor

:biggrin:

Even if mentioned else where long ago - still needs to be mentioned/ rementioned
:biggrin:

[Mr. Scaly]

The both have baggy eyes (though it probably just mean they're old), apart from that I don't see it either.


The eyes and beard is what I was getting at.

[Tohron]

When someone linked to the comic with the chart of Belkar's projected and observed evil, I just noticed that it was measured in 'kilonazis'.

[Jetty]

On this strip, the vampire Roy can taste Gouda (Panel 9) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0474.html)That is referenced in this strip, where Elan says that hobgoblins can't resist Gouda. (Panel 2) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0463.html) :smallbiggrin:

[Tafkan]

Heh, should invest more points in Spot, until now I hadn't even noticed how one of the hobgoblins in 435 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0435.html) is knocked out by the guy's head falling on him. :smallamused:

[Siosilvar]

V has two Demon Roaches on V's head. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html)

EDIT: The third number in the title is shaped oddly like a 3 instead of a 5. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0555.html)

[kamoo]

Durkon's Eyes (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0352.html) turning in to white just like Storm (X-MEN).
And the gradual change in the background colors.

[Deepkicker]

V has two Demon Roaches on V's head. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html)

In Dungeon Crawlin' Fools we're treated to even more roaches on V's head action.

[Lissou]

Yeah, that just made the scene that much more poignant. O_O Especially seeing as it was Redcloak who'd objected to using those nicknames all the time....

I think you mean Right-eye.

You know, I caught most of these the first time. And yet, sometimes I miss more obvious stuff, it seems. Like, the first time I read it, I didn't recognise Thog when he jumped in through the window saying "nale!". I thought it was a new character or something.
It should have been obvious to me, though, so I don't know what I was thinking.

[Vizen]

Did the last panel here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0350.html) remind anyone else of this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0301.html)?

[bue52]

I have a feeling that everyone else has already realised this, but I just realised that V is/was crossed-eyed! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0504.html)

[Threeshades]

I have a feeling that everyone else has already realised this, but I just realised that V is/was crossed-eyed! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0504.html)

You know, the rings around his eyes are not his actual eyes. So, no, V isn't mean to squint.

[bue52]

You know, the rings around his eyes are not his actual eyes. So, no, V isn't mean to squint.

But it does give that "starting to turn" insane kind of look, or overly tired kind of look.

[MReav]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0353.html, Julia is modestly covering herself while Durkon is below her.

[Outsidelime]

On this strip, the vampire Roy can taste Gouda (Panel 9) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0474.html)That is referenced in this strip, where Elan says that hobgoblins can't resist Gouda. (Panel 2) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0463.html) :smallbiggrin:

While we're at it, notice what the Hobgoblins are importing from Cliffport. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0517.html)

~Josh

[evileeyore]

I just noticed the background picture is Belkar and Mr. Scruffy (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html) and Mr. Scruffy is still licking his hand trying to help Belkar feel better...

Mr Scruffy is so precious http://www.geocities.com/evileeyore/sob.gif

[Snake-Aes]

While we're at it, notice what the Hobgoblins are importing from Cliffport. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0517.html)

~Josh

Holy crap! Hobgoblins can't resist Gouda indeed!

[Assassin89]

Those Bandits could have been designed to poke fun at NPCs in general because they say the same phrases (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0169.html)

[someonenonotyou]

woah i never noticed the backround in 606 cool

[Tryble]

I just noticed this, but Roy's brother shows up (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html) 383 strips before his introduction in the afterlife scene!

[Dr.Gunsforhands]

It's really recent to most of these, but it took me a couple of looks to notice the background in this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html), the latest comic.

[Assassin89]

Schlubbo Noname-zaki in 435 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0435.html) is a joke made by Belkar to show that a soldier is an unnamed mook.

Schlub bo No name

[Mr._Michael]

I never noticed until the discussion thread about Haley's Pants (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95725)... but 'way back in 35 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0035.html), 1) the bead falls out of Haley's hair, and 2) Her shirt starts to 'ride up' before it fails off panel.

Tons of details that are part of their own Story Arcs are signs of Genius... http://prints-of-light.smugmug.com/photos/417231455_pt8N9-Th.gif . http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h87/osiris32/giant.png

[bdh5533]

evasion on the puke area of effect! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0602.html)

[HealthKit]

In 606 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html) you can kind of tell "Real Life" Belkar is wearing a shirt with a skull on it.

[Revlid]

In 606 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html) you can kind of tell "Real Life" Belkar is wearing a shirt with a skull on it.

That's his foot.

[hamishspence]

if it was- wouldn't it be pink, not black?

[hewhosaysfish]

Those Bandits could have been designed to poke fun at NPCs in general because they say the same phrases (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0169.html)

I just interpretted that repetition as highlightling the two-faced "yes man" behviour they were exhibiting, rather than as a reference to the limitations of video game NPCs.

EDIT @^ Why the heck would his foot be on his chest?

[Outsidelime]

That's his foot.

OP was referring (I think) to the black-T-shirted Belkar in panel 6, playing a "real-life" game of D&D with Shojo. Looks like there's a skull (possibly) on his T-shirt.

You seem to have misunderstood him and thought he was referring to the "real-life" sleeping Belkar in the comic's overall background. (I think.)

~Josh

[evileeyore]

I just interpretted that repetition as highlightling the two-faced "yes man" behviour they were exhibiting, rather than as a reference to the limitations of video game NPCs.

The NPC in panel one is a better example of a jab at NPC repetition. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0213.html)


OP was referring (I think) to the black-T-shirted Belkar in panel 6, playing a "real-life" game of D&D with Shojo. Looks like there's a skull (possibly) on his T-shirt.

Rather like this one. (http://www.pvponline.com/1999/02/03/wed-feb-03/)

[HealthKit]

OP was referring (I think) to the black-T-shirted Belkar in panel 6, playing a "real-life" game of D&D with Shojo. Looks like there's a skull (possibly) on his T-shirt.

You seem to have misunderstood him and thought he was referring to the "real-life" sleeping Belkar in the comic's overall background. (I think.)

~Josh

Yeah, pretty much. That foot thing made no sense to me.

[Terex4]

In 606 Mr. Scruffy has his own character sheet in the player/dm panel.

[Eloel]

in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0470.html 2nd panel, I think belkar's 21, no, 22, is a reference to the cleric that battled with redcloak

[Greg]

581 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0581.html) - 3rd panel, does the person that wants a personal rival look like Sabine to anyone else?

[Moriarty]

581 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0581.html) - 3rd panel, does the person that wants a personal rival look like Sabine to anyone else?

sabine is a shapeshifter, basically everything could look like her :smalltongue:

but her "normal" form has thicker hair and a her skin tone is a little more bright

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0355.html

[Linkavitch]

581 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0581.html) - 3rd panel, does the person that wants a personal rival look like Sabine to anyone else?

Huh. Ya know, she does.

[Ron Miel]

Yeah, some people made that mistake. It isn't her though.

She reappears here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0605.html)

[MReav]

OotOoPCs Spoiler:

She's that Bard/Rogue/Sorcerer girl... I wonder what other suboptimal classes she's picked up in the interim...

[bdh5533]

A lantern over the head instead of a light bulb (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0387.html)

Last panel of the first comic in 387

[Eloel]

At last! Evidence on V's gender :)
in
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0111.html
Belkar refers to V as a "he" :P

[Ron Miel]

But here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0252.html)Nale thinks that the Elf is a chick while Sabine thinks it's a dude. The Jury is still out.

[Zeful]

At last! Evidence on V's gender :)
in
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0111.html
Belkar refers to V as a "he" :P

So does half the cast. The other half? "She".

[HealthKit]

At last! Evidence on V's gender :)
in
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0111.html
Belkar refers to V as a "he" :P

That just means Belkar thinks V's a dude.
Read the FAQ (http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10)

[keilyn]

V has two Demon Roaches on V's head. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html)




In that same strip- in the second panel of Roy's memories- we see Eric behind the chair at his mom's feet. Didn't even click until I reread DCF after reading Ry's reunion with his family in Celestia. Thought maybe it had been baby Julia. Nope. :smallbiggrin:

EDIT: Oops. Someone mentioned it. Ah, well -it's worth repeating anyway.

[ColonelFuster]

Well, did anyone else notice that Loki's godly aura turned a vomitous green in this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0079.html), at the end? I just did.

[Keldon]

I don't know if this was pointed, but on the third panel of #581, the blond rogue is hiding an ace under the table.

[Ionizer]

In the newest comic (608 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0608.html)), it looks like the suit that Haley hung in the shower is actually her "Azure City Resistance" costume. I always wondered what she did with it...

[Istari]

In 608 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0608.html) Haley is wearing her lime green boots of speed

[Ron Miel]

I don't know if this was pointed, but on the third panel of #581, the blond rogue is hiding an ace under the table.

Well spotted. I never noticed that.

[Hydro Globus]

Maybe someone noticed it before me, I don't know (I'm only around for 2 days), but Roy had no chance of defeating Xykon over Azure City. Xykon hasn't been within 1000 feet of Girard's Gate yet.

(Also: does this remind anyone to Stavromula Beta?)

[hamishspence]

Could have happened exactly same way as last time- Xykon dying, Redcloak's holy symbol, the phylactery, regenerating him. It didn't, but it could have. Prophesies don't always rule out certain things happening.

[Hydro Globus]

Well, I assumed they knew better by then...

[hamishspence]

Since Roy is going full tilt at Xykon before he falls, Knowing he will regenerate doesn't mean you don't have to try and kill him temporarily anyway- an epic sorcerer can do a lot of damage.

Also, they don't know what it is, only that it exists, so they might not know to go after Redcloak.

[Hydro Globus]

I thought following the Monster in the Darkness would be obvious enough. And it usually sticks with Redcloak when Xykon isn't around.

(OK, OK, I'm convinced! Fine, Xykon could have been disabled by Roy. :smallsmile::smallsmile:)

[Kaytara]

In the most recent strip, the background in the panels with Belkar's vision goes from a warm beige colour to lavender and to dark blue before - WHAM! - going red. :) Very neat. ^^

[hamishspence]

I highly doubt it, but, the prophesy cannot be citied as reason for Roy Not disabling Xykon. If roy was very very lucky, he could disable him, without violating the prophesy (as long as Redcloak escapes).

Point I'm making is- the prophesy reason is not a good reason for Roy losing. Xykon being 7+ levels higher? Thats a good reason.

[Lerky]

I found this lil' thing while looking for refrence material for my girlfriends avatar.
Not only are Kazumi and Daio holding hands but in the 3rd panel, she's crying for some reason (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0598.html)

[Scarab83]

I found this lil' thing while looking for refrence material for my girlfriends avatar.
Not only are Kazumi and Daio holding hands but in the 3rd panel, she's crying for some reason (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0598.html)

Tears of joy, perhaps?

[Haven]

Oh my god, I just noticed the "eee!! eee!! eee!! eee!!" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0608.html) in 608 and took a few minutes to realize what that meant. Ahahahahahah, awesome.

[Hydro Globus]

Why, what did they mean?

[Jimorian]

I found this lil' thing while looking for refrence material for my girlfriends avatar.
Not only are Kazumi and Daio holding hands but in the 3rd panel, she's crying for some reason (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0598.html)

In panel 1, Durkon has his hand on her belly and is smiling, which means the baby wasn't harmed during the fight. Panel 3 is her smiling/crying reaction to the good news.

[jolus]

Why, what did they mean?

Might have something to do with this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLVKWpeZNes)...

[Hydro Globus]

Oh...

AMAZING indeed :)

[Ron Miel]

In the latest strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0611.html) one of the guild has a transparent sword. See the second page, 2nd, 4th and final panels.

The art's been changed. Perhaps it was an error after all.

[Zeful]

That might be an error.

[Liwen]

I believe it is a Ethereal sword. Rich often add distinctive and charming characteristics to his unamed meatbags NPCs just for kicks.

[Ron Miel]

I don't think so. If it was in just one panel then it would probably be an error. It has happened from time to time. But three panels in the same page, and the same person's sword each time, it's definitely deliberate.

[Faceist]

Yeah, it doesn't look like an error to me, considering it's see-through in every panel it appears.

Also, I lol'd at the Psycho reference in 608, never noticed that. :smallbiggrin:

[Lycan 01]

Belkar has three daggers. I dunno if its a mistake or not, but in #611, while he's kissing the girl and throwing his two daggers at the last baddie, he still has one dagger on his belt.

I dunno, it just bugged me. XD

[Ron Miel]

He seems to carry a lot of daggers with him. He keeps throwing them, but never seems to run out.

[chiasaur11]

He seems to carry a lot of daggers with him. He keeps throwing them, but never seems to run out.

He retrieves them from the corpses.
Belkar wouldn't waste perfectly good murder weapons.

[Shadic]

Haley has three arms in the first panel of OotS 11. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0011.html)

[someonenonotyou]

Holy carp i never saw that:smalleek:

[chiasaur11]

So that's her deep secret.

What kind of DnD beings have more than two arms...

[Ron Miel]

The advantages of being threewarned, perhaps?

[BardicDuelist]

Here's one: One of the paladins that Xykon accidentally views with his Teevo (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0415.html) is Sir Francois, Elan's former liege from On The Origin of PCs.

Also in that same strip, the Teevo picks up "Frudu" with "the Ming".... Frudu also appears in On The Origin as one of the potential party-members (along with a Gandalfy wizard) that rejects the offer to join Roy's team.

~Josh

Holy crap on a stick, you're right!

[Hephaestus]

Is he reading 4th ed? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0562.html)

[evileeyore]

Is he reading 4th ed? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0562.html)

It looks like he is reading the DMG. That cheating bastard! http://www.geocities.com/evileeyore/fist

[Salty]

Haley has three arms in the first panel of OotS 11. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0011.html)

It's fixed in the book version. Nice spot check, though.

[HealthKit]

Haley mentions her lime green boots again right here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0573.html).

[Deuce]

It's fixed in the book version. Nice spot check, though.

Darn, so much for my theory that she's half-Xorn. :smallconfused:

[Outsidelime]

The Magic Mouth in this strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0564.html) picks up exactly where it left off in this strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0324.html), 240 strips earlier.

~Josh

[Shatteredtower]

The paladins that hauled away Miko in strip #411 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0411.html) were O-chul and Lien. Since Hinjo is also in the strip, we're looking at the only members of the Sapphire Guard to have survived the battle for Azure City. Thanh, the only other survivor we've seen, wasn't at the battle because he'd been serving as a messenger to Nowhere (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0535.html) at the time. (Note that his presence manages to thwarts two very familiar assassins.)

Edit: In The Trial of Belkar Bitterleaf (Abridged) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0420.html), Shojo says to Belkar:

"That says to me that perhaps your time with the Mark has taught you something about yourself. That maybe, you're a better person than before it was put on you."

He was wrong back then, but if only he'd seen how that's turned out by strip #611...

[Tafkan]

In 611, fourth panel, when Belkster is jumping towards that rogue, the only words not covered by smoke are "Alive, in danger with Belkar". :p

[Jan Mattys]

The paladins that hauled away Miko in strip #411 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0411.html) were O-chul and Lien. Since Hinjo is also in the strip, we're looking at the only members of the Sapphire Guard to have survived the battle for Azure City. Thanh, the only other survivor we've seen, wasn't at the battle because he'd been serving as a messenger to Nowhere (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0535.html) at the time. (Note that his presence manages to thwarts two very familiar assassins.)

Edit: In The Trial of Belkar Bitterleaf (Abridged) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0420.html), Hinjo says to Belkar:

"That says to me that perhaps your time with the Mark has taught you something about yourself. That maybe, you're a better person than before it was put on you."

He was wrong back then, but if only he'd seen how that's turned out by strip #611...

Fixed it for you :smallsmile:

[Tholok Razescar]

In 611, fourth panel, when Belkster is jumping towards that rogue, the only words not covered by smoke are "Alive, in danger with Belkar". :p

Hehe. Nice spot check.

[Eloel]

I sometimes think people do a search check instead.... Still nice one

[Hydro Globus]

I sometimes think people do a search check instead.... Still nice one

Well, do you have a better idea for more intelligent than wise forumers to get to post here?

[Cizak]

In this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html), 5th panel, the oracle says that he thinks Belkar dulls his daggers so they hurt more going in. In this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0611.html), panel 4, you can clearly see that Belkar's daggers are dull :smallamused:

[Shadic]

It's fixed in the book version. Nice spot check, though.

Various things are. Like last panel of comic 1, Haley's arm. He fixes that in the books too.

[Manga Shoggoth]

In 611, fourth panel, when Belkster is jumping towards that rogue, the only words not covered by smoke are "Alive, in danger with Belkar". :p

More to the point: the swirling mist across his face forms two scary grey eyes and a small slitted mouth.

That may be accidental, but I wouldn't put it past the Giant...

[ref]

Hey, that last one is cool.

[Michaelart]

OP was referring (I think) to the black-T-shirted Belkar in panel 6, playing a "real-life" game of D&D with Shojo. Looks like there's a skull (possibly) on his T-shirt.
It may be a reference to Francis (http://www.pvponline.com/2003/09/17/wed-sep-17/), a character in PvP online comic by Scott Kurtz. FYI, Giant made a PvP strip as guest artist and Scott wrote a preface for one of the OOTS books (can't remember which and don't have them here to check).


But here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0252.html)Nale thinks that the Elf is a chick while Sabine thinks it's a dude. The Jury is still out.
But here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0385.html), Sabine calls V "sister" and talk to her about men as if she thought V is a woman.

[Shatteredtower]

But here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0385.html), Sabine calls V "sister" and talk to her about men as if she thought V is a woman.

Sabine's views on gender are probably very flexible (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0365.html) (last panel).

[Shhalahr Windrider]

Plus, y'know, she's drunk. She never even realized she was talking to an OotS member.

[Helanna]

Sure she did. She tells Nale later that "the elf is sitting in the bar all alone". I think she was just too upset to care.


In this comic, 5th panel, the oracle says that he thinks Belkar dulls his daggers so they hurt more going in. In this comic, panel 4, you can clearly see that Belkar's daggers are dull

That's pretty awesome.

[Linkavitch]

You know, the first time I read #611, I thought Belkar was being healed by the moonshine he was drinking. But, then I went back and saw the cleric's hand was all magicy.

[Shhalahr Windrider]

Sure she did. She tells Nale later that "the elf is sitting in the bar all alone". I think she was just too upset to care.
Hm. I don't remember that, and I can't seem to find it.

In any case, it's also possible she didn't recognize V at the time, only putting the pieces together after her head cleared.

[Shatteredtower]

Hm. I don't remember that, and I can't seem to find it.

Strip #394, 7th panel (or 1st panel on the 3rd row):

"And don't give me that, 'First alone, first killed,' line, either, because the elf is sitting all alone in the bar right now."

[Ron Miel]

It may be a reference to Francis (http://www.pvponline.com/2003/09/17/wed-sep-17/), a character in PvP online comic by Scott Kurtz. FYI, Giant made a PvP strip as guest artist and Scott wrote a preface for one of the OOTS books (can't remember which and don't have them here to check).


It looks like Francis is wearing a Punisher (http://www.allposters.com/-sp/The-Punisher-No-Sweat-Posters_i1847892_.htm)shirt and Belkar is wearing a skate or die (http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/TEE_TRCO/GSA259-AT~Retro-Skate-or-Die-Skull-Posters.jpg) shirt. A bit hard to tell given the art style.

[Kroy]

I notice in the second to last panel in comic 611 that Belker uncorks the moonshine, but in the last panel it's still corked. I don't think Belker is the kind of person who is that considerate.

[fang_q]

I only just noticed, in this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0374.html) comic, in panel 9, the mini Miko in the air.

[Ron Miel]

There were two bottles of moonshine. He's taken one with him.

prediction:

he's going to turn himself into a living flamethrower

[Jetty]

There were 2 bottles.

Edit: Ninjad!

[hamishspence]

in Complete Warrior, the Drunken Master prestige class can actually do that, with ability to belch fire after drinking a lot.

[Bradakhan]

don't know if this has been said before, but I didn't notice in this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0560.html) comic, panel 4, theres a sign on the wall

[Ron Miel]

don't know if this has been said before, but I didn't notice in this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0560.html) comic, panel 4, theres a sign on the wall


And did you spot the subtle joke in the sign?


Strip 560 is a parody of the TV show Lost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_(TV_series)). The secret tunnels on the island in Lost were set up by the Dharma initiative.

In OOTS, according to the sign, the secret tunnels were set up by the Greg initiative.

Get it? Dharma and Greg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma_and_greg). See?

[Hydro Globus]

I only just noticed, in this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0374.html) comic, in panel 9, the mini Miko in the air.

Nice Spot check :)

[Shhalahr Windrider]

Strip #394, 7th panel (or 1st panel on the 3rd row):
Ah, thank you.

I managed to miss it like three times over. :smallredface:

And y'know, I forgot till now that Pete had menioned the moonshine earlier, thus explaining the bottles' presence.

[Eloel]

Here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0073.html) "What Would Thor Do?" is abbreviated to WWTD.And here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0170.html), the tankard is there inscribed with a "WWTD?"

[Ikialev]

...What Would Thor Drink.

[Grognard]

...What Would Thor Drink.

What would Thor drink and drive?
That is the real question. (I'm guessing Ferrari and cheap beer)

[Ron Miel]

The latest strip (I need a hero (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0613.html))

It took me a while to realise that ...

Hero is a type of sandwich

[Kroy]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0437.html Last Panel: AOO (attack of opportunity!)

[Eloel]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0577.html

Third Time's the Charm is a feat from Complete Scoundrel

[Järnblomma]

Celia has the same suit searching for jobs in this strip 71 as in the courtroom from strip 268.

Here: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0071.html and here: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0268.html

[Vaarsuvius4181]

yeah no matter how many times i read dungeon crawlin fools, theres always sometyhing i missed!

[Atelm]

In comic 615 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0615.html) the years inscribed on Pete's trophies tell us he last won one ~20 years before OOTS Dungeon Crawlin' Fools took place, as comic 489 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0489.html) indicates the current year to be 1184.

[Greep]

in the comic where haley hits crystal in the head with a sap and comments how "yeah, you'd think hitting you on the head would do some damage" I thought it was a snark on Dand Ds battles system. Later figured out it was just because crystal was so stupid XD

[Assassin89]

in the comic where haley hits crystal in the head with a sap and comments how "yeah, you'd think hitting you on the head would do some damage" I thought it was a snark on Dand Ds battles system. Later figured out it was just because crystal was so stupid XD

Using the sap is a cranial version of the groin attack (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GroinAttack) it only works if there is something of worth.

[Cizak]

This comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0578.html), fourth to last panel. I never realised until yesterday that what Belkar says is a reference to Dorothy from Wizard of Oz. :smalltongue:

[Tholok Razescar]

This comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0578.html), fourth to last panel. I never realised until yesterday that what Belkar says is a reference to Dorothy from Wizard of Oz. :smalltongue:

Only JUST NOW?
You need to watch more classic musicals, buddy... Hit me up in the alley behind the 24/7, tonight, at nine. I can hook you up with some... But it won't be cheap.

[Greep]

Only JUST NOW?
You need to watch more classic musicals, buddy... Hit me up in the alley behind the 24/7, tonight, at nine. I can hook you up with some... But it won't be cheap.

don't trust him! they were fake!

[TARINunit9]

[Insert generic "if I had a nickle for every____" here]

Seriosly, the number of times I noticed something cool on my second or third readthrough of a given comic is in the hundreds!

[Gloverboy]

don't trust him! they were fake!

Yeah. You'll get some cheap off-broadway or off-off broadway musicals, or some weird Bollywood stuff...which is actually still better than a jukebox musical

ok, sorry, the drama nerd will crawl back into his hole now. Seeya next year!

[Griffinwarrior]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0374.html

In the 9th and tenth panel, the camera(I guess that's what it's called in this) zooms in on miko, but the background doesn't change. Shouldn't it get bigger, or am I just totally off

[Lira]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0374.html

In the 9th and tenth panel, the camera(I guess that's what it's called in this) zooms in on miko, but the background doesn't change. Shouldn't it get bigger, or am I just totally offNo, it's not zooming in on Miko. She's coming close to the viewer. The purpose of those panels are to show how far the MitD hit her.

[Llama231]

11th panel (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0531.html).
After about the third read, I noticed the guy buying the sap, which are usually "free".