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BizzaroStormy
2008-10-12, 12:40 AM
I dont so much need the fine details as much as I need the price. Basically, I want a ring of haste that becomes a mask when activated.

BobVosh
2008-10-12, 12:47 AM
Does it like crawl up your arm or something?

BizzaroStormy
2008-10-12, 12:50 AM
No, I'm basically going for the Hollow Transformation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM5dmFS4SC4)

ocato
2008-10-12, 12:52 AM
I think you can probably just have a mask of haste that works like a ring of haste. If you really want the full effect, get a glove of storing or something to put it in when you're not wearing it.

drengnikrafe
2008-10-12, 12:53 AM
We might need more details.

This ring of haste... how many charges does it have? If it doesn't have charges, then how many times per day can it be used? What kind of action is it to change it from a ring to a mask? What kind of action is it to activate the haste? Would the mask have any special abilities?

That kind of stuff.

BizzaroStormy
2008-10-12, 12:54 AM
Just your basic ring of haste (10 rounds per day divided as I want) but it changes into a mask when activated.

MisterSaturnine
2008-10-12, 01:13 AM
Just your basic ring of haste (10 rounds per day divided as I want) but it changes into a mask when activated.

That seems like it's mostly just a fluff thing. I'm probably missing something, but couldn't you just price it as if it were a normal ring of haste (10/day)?

ocato
2008-10-12, 01:21 AM
I'm not seeing a ring of haste, is it MiC? ...if it is, I don't see it.

So, we can work with this. You want Boots of Speed (12,000gp) as a mask (x1.5 = 18,000gp) with Command Word: Shrink Item (Spell Level 3 x min-caster level 5 x 1800gp) so it can shrink down to fit on your finger instead of your head and back again with a command word. That's... 45,000gp, assuming I didn't muck it up somewhere (entirely likely).

Errr, Let's try again. Boots of Speed (12k) as a ring (18k) that also creates a silent image of a mask on your face with a command word. That'd be spell level 1 x minimum caster level 1 x1800gp. Well, no silent image is concentration. Let's do minor image and assume that every 2 rounds it automatically renews itself, so you don't have to concentrate/worry about that. Actually, continuous effect costs a wee bit more than command word, so we'll just do that. That's spell level 2 x minimum caster level 3 x 2000 = 12,000gp +18,000gp = 30,000gp.

EDIT: Sleep dep makes ocato no math good.

Zeful
2008-10-12, 01:26 AM
I'd just make it a mask and put it in a glove of storing. That way you have the visual of being able to hold the mask.

If you wanted it more like the hollow transformation (as his Bankai gives the speed upgrade, the mask gives power), you could throw on divine power for 10 rounds instead of haste.

tyckspoon
2008-10-12, 01:31 AM
Errr, Let's try again. Boots of Speed (12k) as a ring (18k) that also creates a silent image of a mask on your face with a command word. That'd be spell level 1 x minimum caster level 1 x1800gp. Well, no silent image is concentration. Let's do minor image and assume that every 2 rounds it automatically renews itself, so you don't have to concentrate/worry about that. Actually, continuous effect costs a wee bit more than command word, so we'll just do that. That's spell level 2 x minimum caster level 3 x 2000 = 12,000gp +18,000gp = 30,000gp.

EDIT: Sleep dep makes ocato no math good.

.. Disguise Self? The spell exists so you can make these sorts of changes to your appearance.

RTGoodman
2008-10-12, 01:53 AM
I'd do it something like the following:

Do the normal pricing for a ring with the haste spell effect. The cost would be 3 (spell level) x 5 (caster level) x 1,800 (command word) = 27,000 gp, with a cost reduction for only 10 rounds per day. For the reduction, just use the same reduction as for 2-3 uses per day (2 uses/day would be closer at 5 rounds per use at CL 5, but you could use 3 since it's more versatile than just two 5-round increments). That'd divide the price by (5/2) or (5/3), for a cost of 10,800 to 16,200 gp.

If you feel that's not quite enough, you can tack on an extra 25-50% increase for it not using a normal item slot, but I don't think it's necessary since I doubt you'll have a character switching his ring to a mask just to put on another ring. Basically, I'd price it at about 12,500 or so, right in the middle of the above figures and right around the price of a ring of minor energy resistance or chameleon power.

xPANCAKEx
2008-10-12, 09:55 AM
matter of fluff = seconded

the only problem with what you want mechanics wise is it would take up both a ring slot and the head slot for a single item, unless you have a leiniant DM

Iku Rex
2008-10-12, 12:56 PM
Boots of Speed: 12000.
Wrong location: +50%

Total price: 18000 gp

The mask thing sounds like a cursed item drawback (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/cursedItems.htm#drawback): "Character now bears some identifying mark (tattoo, weird glow, or the like)."

No need to charge extra for that. I would also keep the item in the ring slot at all times.

Starbuck_II
2008-10-12, 01:19 PM
Boots of Speed: 12000.
Wrong location: +50%

Total price: 18000 gp

The mask thing sounds like a cursed item drawback (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/cursedItems.htm#drawback): "Character now bears some identifying mark (tattoo, weird glow, or the like)."

No need to charge extra for that. I would also keep the item in the ring slot at all times.

False, Rings count as every type of slot: that is why you are limited to 2 rings.