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Emperor Demonking
2008-10-17, 09:19 AM
The 24 23 of you gathered there to catch the mafia ,who were lurking in the underground station, looked at dead body of Inspector Demon King. One of you pumped his chest until he lived once more, just long enough to say. "I know who the Mafia are."

Demon King dies for the last time. The 23 gathered together until one of you said. "Maybe we should catch the inspector's killers."
Once this was said mumbling could be heard from all of you. "Y'know I didn't really like him.", "I mean seriously, its day 1 of an investigation and he's already screaming. I've found the culprit."

Demon King - Knows Mafia Townie was killed.

Day 1 begins

Blue Uumbrella
Catseye
Dr. Bath
DragonPrime
FF Fanboy
Fin
Griever
Hap Hazard
Hero 1.0
Iceddragons
Istari
Jontom Xire
Kaboose
Lamech
MrEdwardNigma
Phileas
Pirate Monk
Recaiden
Reinholdt
ShadowCaller
Uncle Festy
Woff
Xnadia

Townie role PM

You are a Townie.

You have no special abilities.

You win if the bad guys are dead.

Boo
2008-10-17, 09:34 AM
My username has two u's? Interesting.

Also, what are the rules for this game? Are there night and day phases?

MrEdwardNigma
2008-10-17, 09:44 AM
My username has two u's? Interesting.

Also, what are the rules for this game? Are there night and day phases?
I support this statement, as I am rather new to the werewolf circuit.

Also, yes, Uumbrella, your name has always been spelled with two Us, haven't you been paying attention at all?

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-17, 09:44 AM
Typical werewolf game.

Days: Post someones name in red. The person with the most red names is lynch. Then we go to night.
Night; Send me night actions if you have them.

Boo
2008-10-17, 09:53 AM
Right... Well, I'm going to point at Emperor Demonking because he's very suspicious with his rules and secret roles. Of course I'm going to change this later.

Hyozo
2008-10-17, 11:25 AM
I think I'll start the actual pointing. That Blue Uumbrella looks pretty suspicious to me, with it's extra u and it's pointing-at-a-dead-body-ness.

Kaboose
2008-10-17, 03:24 PM
sounds reasonble ice(note the two d's)ddragons. Bluue Uumbrella

Lamech
2008-10-17, 03:32 PM
Blasphamy! A foul white-text user. These are demon arts so he must be a witch. A witch! The blue umbrella is in fact a witch.Actually, I'm being silly this will change later as well.
In other news Catseye, nice to meet you, remember the last EDK game we played?. Please note this has no effect what so ever I just want to mess with you mind.

Boo
2008-10-17, 04:07 PM
sounds reasonble ice(note the two d's)ddragons. Bluue Uumbrella

I think it's supposed to be read as Iced Dragons.

@V: You know what I meant! :smalltongue:

Uncle Festy
2008-10-17, 04:19 PM
Yes, Blue Umbrella, your name as two "u"s in it. :smalltongue:
That's blasphemy, lamech! Everything means something in this game!

Woff
2008-10-17, 04:48 PM
Ayup.

While I'm not new to TWG as a whole, this is my first game on this forum. Excuse any confusion.

Nychta
2008-10-17, 05:16 PM
Shadowcaller

Dr. Bath
2008-10-17, 05:18 PM
I vote for Uncle Festy. He's hiding something. Probably.

Istari
2008-10-17, 05:48 PM
lameh for people decrying white text must be sneaky enough to notice it. SNEAKY PERSON

Shadowcaller
2008-10-17, 05:49 PM
xNadia, a simpel pointback during the first day of the game.

DraPrime
2008-10-17, 08:24 PM
That Dr. Bath is looking real shifty. That license to practice looks fake. I bet he's not even a real doctor!

Recaiden
2008-10-17, 09:06 PM
What was the last EDK game? I bet Uncle Festy knows. Death Note? Twist 1?

Reinholdt
2008-10-17, 09:45 PM
I have to admit to liking that intro EDK. Good job.

First day random point at Iceddragons.

Lamech
2008-10-18, 01:57 AM
Uncle Festy on the basis it has two votes, and I said I would change my vote from blue umbrella.

MrEdwardNigma
2008-10-18, 03:26 AM
I'll vote for lamech. He's changed his vote around too much, and it's confusing my poor muddled mind!

Or maybe I'm just scheming to kill off everyone who didn't capitalise their username?

Boo
2008-10-18, 03:35 AM
Roll(1d23)+0:
19,+0
Total:19

Reinholdt as an official first day point. He's 19th on the list if I counted correctly in the sleepy state that I am in right now. :smallsigh: Nighty night.

hap_hazard
2008-10-18, 08:43 AM
Blue Umbrella.

Nychta
2008-10-18, 04:39 PM
I'll vote for lamech. He's changed his vote around too much, and it's confusing my poor muddled mind!

Or maybe I'm just scheming to kill off everyone who didn't capitalise their username?

*hides in the corner*

Uncle Festy
2008-10-18, 10:55 PM
Blue Umbrella, to save my hide.

Lamech
2008-10-18, 11:15 PM
Blue umbrella as well in a lamech saving plot.

Boo
2008-10-18, 11:30 PM
Ah well. Was fun! I'll see you all later, then. :smalltongue:

Hyozo
2008-10-18, 11:57 PM
Ah well. Was fun! I'll see you all later, then. :smalltongue:

You know, having read the first twist game (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82641) (Which was only 4 pages long) what you're implying seems like a very transparent lie to me.

Boo
2008-10-19, 12:06 AM
You know, having read the first twist game (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82641) (Which was only 4 pages long) what you're implying seems like a very transparent lie to me.

Seeing as how I'll be dead this round, it can be considered a lie.

EDIT: I feel like I haven't made enough bad jokes.

"We'll see!"

"I'll see you in hell!"

"Seeing is believing!"

"So, you can see through my lies?"

"Can't you see that I'm telling the truth?"

PirateMonk
2008-10-19, 08:50 AM
lamech seems as good as anyone.

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-19, 09:37 AM
Blue Umbrella was playing with his tarot cards in order to calm down after the murder. "Ah the fool. That's right I had a quest to gain experience of how to see with the tarot."
"The Magician. That's right I am awesome at seeing with the tarot. Ooh, death. What does that signify."

The people near by to Blue Umbrella heard that. "Death. He drew death. We must kill him." As one of the police officers put his gun to Blue Umbrella's head, Blue Umbrella says only one thing. "Death doesn't mean that."

Blue Umbrella was lynched.

He was a Seer.

Uncle Festy
2008-10-19, 09:39 AM
Oh, lovely.
:smallannoyed:

Dr. Bath
2008-10-19, 10:14 AM
Oh, lovely.
:smallannoyed:

Don't blame me! I tried to get you killed instead! :smallbiggrin:

Lamech
2008-10-19, 12:24 PM
Wow... I think I screwed up big time there. But in my defense I had no way of knowing...

Hyozo
2008-10-19, 01:08 PM
Wow... I think I screwed up big time there. But in my defense I had no way of knowing...

You? I'm the one who screwed up big time.

I guess this just shows that you can never guess what's going to happen when EDK is running the game.

Boo
2008-10-19, 06:35 PM
I guess I was lying about seeing you later. :smallbiggrin:

Kaboose
2008-10-19, 10:04 PM
you could have said SEER you later. Given us a hint

Boo
2008-10-19, 10:07 PM
Ah well. Was fun! I'll see you all later, then. :smalltongue:
Seeing as how I'll be dead this round, it can be considered a lie.

EDIT: I feel like I haven't made enough bad jokes.

"We'll see!"

"I'll see you in hell!"

"Seeing is believing!"

"So, you can see through my lies?"

"Can't you see that I'm telling the truth?"

These weren't hints? Note: the bolded text were also italicized.

Fan
2008-10-19, 10:08 PM
In my defence I didn't see those at all, andh ave just returnedf to the thread.

Hyozo
2008-10-19, 10:10 PM
He made it fairly obvious. I was just thoroughly convinced he was lying.

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-20, 12:07 PM
Brecause my box was full, I'm prolonging the night.

Jontom Xire
2008-10-21, 03:18 AM
Sorry I missed the start of this game. Extended weekend. Back now and will vote once the day begins.

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-21, 11:41 AM
Dr. Bath was sleeping, snoring if you must know, when a voice was heard. "Hey, Dr. Bath is a doctor, right? Therefore he must have some kind of ability he does at night. Probably the ability to test peoples sanities or give people medicine or diagnose illnesses. Twist is filled with interesting roles."

Dr. Bath hwas dead when you woke up.

Dr Bath was killed he was a townie.

xNadia on the otherhand was not asleep, in fact she was creeping around when she heard a foot step. Turning around she spoke, in a confindent voice, "Don't kill me."

The murderer still did.

xNadia was killed. She was a baner.

Day 2 Begins

Lamech
2008-10-21, 12:12 PM
...were not getting role descriptions are we...

Recaiden
2008-10-21, 04:08 PM
...were not getting role descriptions are we...

No. That means that it's completely possible that "baners" are villagers and "townies" are the wolves, or that baners are baners and townies are villagers.

Istari
2008-10-21, 04:34 PM
So that means that blue umbrella could have been a wolf thinking that the town wouldn't suspect him since his role name was seer and he didn't want to give his fellow wolves away, or he was actually the seer and we screwed ourselves. I think:smallconfused:

Recaiden
2008-10-21, 04:37 PM
So that means that blue umbrella could have been a wolf thinking that the town wouldn't suspect him since his role name was seer and he didn't want to give his fellow wolves away, or he was actually the seer and we screwed ourselves. I think:smallconfused:

That's why it's a Twist game. Just like Ultimate Kaos, where the "villagers" were the wolves.

Lamech
2008-10-21, 10:44 PM
Rienholdt I blame you for something...

Nychta
2008-10-22, 01:21 AM
I think that's the first time I've been night-killed on the first night. Hooray and darn.

Jontom Xire
2008-10-22, 03:34 AM
Well one team or the other is screwed.

MrEdwardNigma
2008-10-22, 03:45 AM
No. That means that it's completely possible that "baners" are villagers and "townies" are the wolves, or that baners are baners and townies are villagers.

You're just trying to confuse us.

*points at Recaiden*

Changed vote to lamech.

hap_hazard
2008-10-22, 08:47 AM
Istari.

Don't get you.

Reinholdt
2008-10-22, 11:43 AM
lamech in retaliation.

Griever
2008-10-22, 12:32 PM
MrEdwardNigma, I do believe I have never pointed at you sir. Problem solved.

MrEdwardNigma
2008-10-22, 02:48 PM
MrEdwardNigma, I do believe I have never pointed at you sir. Problem solved.

Heh, obviously :smalltongue:
First timer here.

Lamech
2008-10-22, 02:59 PM
Wow... you really managed to pick a easy to understand version of WW. And by easy to understand I mean probably slightly easier than the absolute hardest version of WW to understand.:smallsmile:

Istari
2008-10-22, 03:22 PM
Griever yay nice even voting:smallbiggrin:

PirateMonk
2008-10-22, 04:13 PM
Wow... you really managed to pick a easy to understand version of WW. And by easy to understand I mean probably slightly easier than the absolute hardest version of WW to understand.:smallsmile:

No, there are plenty of possible WW games that are much more confusing than this.

Lamech for unwarranted aggression.

MrEdwardNigma
2008-10-22, 04:15 PM
Changing my vote to jump the bandwagon.

*points at lamech*

Lamech
2008-10-22, 04:50 PM
Erm... EdwardMcNigma actually, this change seems odd... And by my advanced calculations has the best chance of keeping me alive.
P.S. for future referance, most narrators like you to change your point by crossing out the old one and making a new post with a new point.

Heroic
2008-10-22, 05:19 PM
ponint at lamech

new point at edwardnigma that change of point to join the random bandwagon is suspicious,.

Hyozo
2008-10-22, 05:36 PM
I'll point at Hero 1.0 today, just because I don't really like either bandwagon.

Istari
2008-10-22, 05:53 PM
Someones being sneaky:smallwink:

Uncle Festy
2008-10-22, 07:04 PM
((Mr. Edward Nigma, because I don't like the lamech bandwagon. Point subject to change if a new target presents itself.))

Lamech
2008-10-22, 07:06 PM
@Istari
???

And that doesn't meet the required number of characters so... who exacty is being sneaky?

Heroic
2008-10-22, 07:32 PM
I changed my point to Mr.Edward Nigma for the same reason you did Uncle Festy.

Uncle Festy
2008-10-22, 07:55 PM
@ Hero 1.0: …
You might wanna put that in red. :smalltongue:

Heroic
2008-10-22, 09:04 PM
Already did that in my previous post, so I don't wanna confuse the narrators.

Kaboose
2008-10-22, 10:28 PM
Mr. Edward Nigma because I have other things I have to do and I don't have time toread everything.

MrEdwardNigma
2008-10-23, 02:14 AM
ponint at lamech

new point at edwardnigma that change of point to join the random bandwagon is suspicious,.

It's just random, actually.

Ah, looks like I'm screwed.

Jontom Xire
2008-10-23, 02:59 AM
I really haven't been keeping up so I'm going to point at Kaboose.

Shadowcaller
2008-10-23, 03:22 AM
Hap_hazard, I just don't want to follow the badwagons.

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-23, 01:38 PM
As EdwardNigma was about to be pushed off onto the railway lines by the anfgy mob he smiled and grinned and smirked and beamed. "What has a bee, but doesn't have honey? Acts at night but gains no information? Is my role but not my.... hair colour?"
"Lord of the poisonous bees?"
"Honey Maker?"
"It can't be honey maker, he doesn't have honey, you moron."
"Burn baby burn?"
"That doesn't have bees!"
"No, you see it has the letter "B"."
"Ooh maybe he's the baner."
"I think you got it."
"Hey, did everybody let go?"

MrEdwardNigma was lynched. He was a Baner.

MrEdwardNigma
2008-10-23, 01:43 PM
Well, that first game went well :smalleek:

I guess I'll have to try another one to really get the feel of this.
Nice death you wrote for me though, EDK.

Lamech
2008-10-23, 01:51 PM
Wait, wait wait... xNadia was a "baner". No way thats the normal baner role seeing as how she got killed...

Also we may still have a seer out their somewhere I guess...

Uncle Festy
2008-10-23, 05:08 PM
*Uncle Festy = muchly confuzzled*

Dr. Bath
2008-10-23, 05:13 PM
PHOEY!

muttermuttermutter killin' me on the first night...

Nychta
2008-10-23, 10:55 PM
PHOEY!

muttermuttermutter killin' me on the first night...

:frown:
*pats on shoulder*

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-24, 02:01 PM
Some say that the at every choice their are two paths. In one world Reinholdt rose through the ranks of the police, married a supermodel, won the lottery (twice), discovered a cure for cancer, became president, maried another supermodel and then just before dying solved the problems facing the world and caused world peace. In another world, he died.

Reinholdt died. He was a townie.

Kaboose
2008-10-24, 02:08 PM
So the baners and townies have lost two each. Are we happy about that hero?

Reinholdt
2008-10-24, 02:33 PM
((Aw man. I prefer that other world much better. :smalltongue:

Hmm... I might have to sig-quote that one.))

Uncle Festy
2008-10-24, 03:45 PM
Have we established that the "Baners" are the bad guys? As far as I was aware, it was more of a guess.

Istari
2008-10-24, 05:01 PM
Seer = seer/baner/mason/wolf/townie
Baner = townie/wolf/mason
Townie = wolf/mason/townie

Thats about it

Lamech
2008-10-24, 05:52 PM
I might actually have reason to believe the baners are not evil. Or they are being evil and trying to trick us, or they had a higher value target they wanted to hit.

Istari
2008-10-24, 06:45 PM
So whats your reason?
Also what makes you think the baners are evil, as seen by my nifty post above yours, they most likely are good, but whatever

Lamech
2008-10-24, 08:56 PM
I probably should have posted the last sentence in small text. I don't have an info gathering role, so what I know has me simply talking to others behind the scenes...
Anyway, let me repost everything their more clearly...

I have reason to believe that the baners are not evil. This reason is in addition to the fact they are called "baners". I believe that it is quite good, and it shows that the baners are probably good. I was just being my unsure self with the last sentence.

Edit: I really, really have troubles with counting...

PirateMonk
2008-10-25, 08:17 AM
Baner = townie/wolf/mason

Why can't Baners be Baners? xNadia might have just failed to send in a night action, or protected someone other than herself.

Istari
2008-10-25, 09:34 AM
MrEdwardNigma was also a baner, so unless there were 2 baners that wouldn't work

PirateMonk
2008-10-25, 09:57 AM
MrEdwardNigma was also a baner, so unless there were 2 baners that wouldn't work

What?:smallconfused:

Istari
2008-10-25, 11:39 AM
MrEdwardNigma was lynched. He was a Baner.

White space

PirateMonk
2008-10-25, 11:46 AM
The previous game apparently had multiple baners, so why can't this one?

Jontom Xire
2008-10-25, 01:31 PM
Seer = seer/baner/mason/wolf/townie
Baner = townie/wolf/mason
Townie = wolf/mason/townie

Thats about it

Eh? Care to explain? Also about where you got your information as well as about what it means.

Kaboose
2008-10-25, 03:38 PM
I agree with Lamech. He sent me a PM with his reasons and it seems viable to me.

Istari
2008-10-25, 03:57 PM
Eh? Care to explain? Also about where you got your information as well as about what it means.

I took the roles we know about and gave them all the normal roles they could actually have based on how many of them we've seen

Uncle Festy
2008-10-25, 06:12 PM
That, of course, is assuming that this is anything resembling a normal game with normal roles.
Which it's (probably) not.
Also, lamech.

Lamech
2008-10-26, 12:29 AM
*the point of the person above me* lamech

erm... no wait need to pay more attention. Lets see here I really hope hero is innocent. Ditto uncle festy. I can conjecture lack of two kills that Jontom has his odds of guilt cut in half. Kaboose I haven't seen around much before this game sooo... I pick...

Piratemonk to go fight the train. He is the only one that has posted today that I haven't found a reason* to not lynch.

P.S. I forgot about Istari he seems to be providing accurate rule analysis, which I don't think a wolf would do.

*Validity of reasons not guarrented.

Woff
2008-10-26, 07:21 AM
Is the game played in this thread then?

I've been in egypt sorry.

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-26, 07:44 AM
Yes, its played in this thread.

Woff
2008-10-26, 09:02 AM
Allrighty then.

I'll read through it.

EDIT:

I am very confused. Stop playing differentially to how people usually play round my parts.

Istari
2008-10-26, 10:16 AM
So what questions do you have?

Jontom Xire
2008-10-26, 10:18 AM
This is Twist - one of EDKs mini-games where the roles are completely different to normal. He generally confuses everyone by saying that the rules are the same as the standard Werewolf game, but by that he means only the system of pointing (and highlighting points) and handling night actions, etc. etc.

If you've played Werewolf elsewhere you may prefer "Werewolf Classic" which is a fixed set of rules the same as the very first Werewolf game ever played on these board, or one of the "Werewolf" games, which is like "Werewolf Classic" but with slight rules variations. Originally there were just one or two rules twists, but as games go by they tend to get more3 inventive. It retains the standard "Werewolf Classic" idea though.

Then there are hundreds of variations. Many are standard Werewolf games, but set in a different environment with different role names, but they play essentially the same. Some are extremely different with the only similarity being a day/night cycle, some sort of lynch during the day, and secret actions at night.


I thought I had a theory on what the rules fo this game are, but when I started writing it down it stopped making sense.

PirateMonk
2008-10-26, 10:39 AM
lamech in self-defense.

Woff
2008-10-26, 11:08 AM
Oh no, I understand the rules perfectly.

It's just that there seems to be the bare minimum of justification for every vote.

Jontom Xire
2008-10-26, 11:14 AM
Ah. That would be because we don't have a clue and hence there is no justification for any of the votes. I don't know about other people, but I haven't a clue what any of the roles are about or how to tell who might be what because I'm not even sure what what is, so hence I have no idea at all who to point at, so all my points are random. Hence they have no justification, so I don't write any reason for voting. I imagine that most other people are in the same boat, and the one's who do know what is happening are probably the ones we have to lynch (the bad guys) and so have to pretend not to have a clue.

I hope that some of that made sense.

Anyway, I point at Woff for being too demanding. :smallwink:

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-26, 11:18 AM
"Ooh burn." Said Lamech as his spaghetti singed the roof of his mouth.
You went up to him when you heard the exclamation and saw that next to his spaghetti was a pizza. Somebody said something to Lamech. "What's your father's name?"
"Mario, why?"
You nodded to each other, or at least the five of you (minus Lamech) who bothered to vote. "He's an italian isn't he? Now what are the mafia? Yeah the mafia is italian, he's italian. It all adds up."
The four of them threw Lamech onto the tracks.

Lamech was lynched. He was a Mafia.

Istari
2008-10-26, 11:22 AM
Well thats either good or bad

Hyozo
2008-10-26, 11:23 AM
Let me guess, That's the "scries as mafia but is really just a townie" role, isn't it?

EDIT: Edit-ninjaed. apparently he actually was mafia.

Woff
2008-10-26, 11:34 AM
Well thats either good or bad

Or neither. He could be a CRAZY pointless third team.

That runs a casino.

Lamech
2008-10-26, 11:40 AM
sonofacrap I thought I still had a couple hours to say stuff. I kind of wanted to send a PM before I got lynched... :smallfrown:

Can I do that now?

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-26, 11:44 AM
You may send 1 PM.

Lamech
2008-10-26, 11:48 AM
Cool thanks...

Uncle Festy
2008-10-26, 06:07 PM
Hum, interesting.
So that solves a couple of things that I was confused about. Coolio.

Woff
2008-10-26, 06:10 PM
Does...
That suggest mafia are either the wolves or the masons?

If he had PMS to send, urgently.

Hyozo
2008-10-26, 06:15 PM
Does...
That suggest mafia are either the wolves or the masons?

If he had PMS to send, urgently.

Mafia is the most common wolf equivalent, and the last Twist game's villains were the mafia, and the first post implies that the mafia are the villains in this game, so I'm going to guess that Emperor Demonking is trying to confuse us and they're really the masons. :smallbiggrin:

Woff
2008-10-26, 06:18 PM
That would.. Make sense.

Nychta
2008-10-27, 12:57 AM
That would.. Make sense.

*pops in*
Hey, you're gonna be good at these games. You've got the 'lying' part down already. And if not the lying... sarcasm fits right in too...

Jontom Xire
2008-10-27, 02:24 AM
Ok, I know who one of the Mafia is.

lamech approached me as a baner. He claims to have protected me, but I'm not too convinced. However he then (with his last PM as allowed by EDK - if anyone else got one then lamech has been cheating) admitted to have been lying. Well obviously it was after his death when I already knew he had been lying, but he also said that the Mafia were the good guys in this game.

Anyone remember Werewolf V?

So now, I think we need to work out whether the mafia or the baners are the bad guys, and who they are.

lamech said some other stuff too, and like I said I know who one of the mafia is. I just need to work out whether they are the good guys or the bad guys. Seeing copies of PMs might help.

Jontom Xire
2008-10-27, 06:27 AM
Ok, I PMed IcedDragons who, from his two previous posts, strikes me as being very very likely to be a mafia.

From the inital game start post, the fact that lamech lied to me, and IcedDragons response to my PM, I conclude that the Mafia are indeed the bad guys, and that IcedDragons is one.

I write this just in case they kill me tonight.

Jontom Xire
2008-10-27, 08:41 AM
Sorry for the multiple posts, but I don't like editing posts in games like this because it may lead people to believe that I have something to hide.

To clarify an earlier post, it transpires that it is possible that lamech may have BCCed other people with the PM he sent to me. One PM, as allowed by EDK, but multiple recipients, each unaware of the others.

Whether this constitutes multiple PMs is for EDK to decide, and I'm not even sure if lamech actually did specify multiple recipients. In any case it wasn't that important a PM.


Alright then, I may have lied to you slightly or a lot. But here is the truth. I am mafia, and the mafia is good. We are a mason group, whose goal is to defeat the bad guys. We get as a group one bane a night, but it can not bane our selves. Sorry about lying to you, the lies where designed to get across the point that I could bane, but also if you were evil convince you I was not worth killing.

Well now you have the truth and I'm quite dead. (And as any PM I send it will be sent BCC to my allies)

Woff
2008-10-27, 09:38 AM
That would make me pretty suspicious of lamech there.

Are masons even allowed to reveal their identity?

Hyozo
2008-10-27, 10:19 AM
Ok, I PMed IcedDragons who, from his two previous posts, strikes me as being very very likely to be a mafia.

From the inital game start post, the fact that lamech lied to me, and IcedDragons response to my PM, I conclude that the Mafia are indeed the bad guys, and that IcedDragons is one.

I write this just in case they kill me tonight.

That's nice Jontom. I was already slightly suspicious of you when I sent that response. Your attempt to frame me only makes that suspicion stronger.

If our PM conversation is coming into play, I think I'll post it so the people can draw their own conclusions instead of this just being the veteran and expert analyst's word against the newbie's word.





Mafia is the most common wolf equivalent, and the last Twist game's villains were the mafia, and the first post implies that the mafia are the villains in this game, so I'm going to guess that Emperor Demonking is trying to confuse us and they're really the masons. :smallbiggrin:

lamech told me that the Mafia were the good guys. Your post is trying to convince us all of the same thing. This looks like Werewolf V all over again.

I think you're mafia and I'm prepared to believe you, but I need to see your role PM. lamech lying to me wasn't clever. Lies naturally breed distrust, you see.

That was a joke Jontom. Sometimes people end their post with a smilie to indicate they are not being serious, this is one of them. You want to see my role PM? Here it is:


You are a Townie.

You have no special abilities.

You win if the bad guys are dead.

It is possible, maybe even likely, that EDK made the mafia the good guys, but what I said was mostly a joke and, until I hear something more than a confirmed liar's claim by proxy, I'm going to assume that the mafia are the bad guys.

Dang, and there I thought I was onto something.

:smalleek:

You think I faked that role PM? To me that means that it's not the same one you got. You claim you were attempting to find the mason group, so unless you are trying to pull the "claim you think the suspected mafia is actually the masons to get them to expose themselves" gambit, that's probably not what you are either. Assuming I don't get night killed, I'm pointing at you tomorrow.

If Emperor Demonking wants me to remove the townie role PM from the quoted PM conversation, I will do so.

Jontom Xire
2008-10-27, 10:37 AM
That's nice Jontom. I was already slightly suspicious of you when I sent that response. Your attempt to frame me only makes that suspicion stronger.

If our PM conversation is coming into play, I think I'll post it so the people can draw their own conclusions instead of this just being the veteran and expert analyst's word against the newbie's word.



You think I faked that role PM? To me that means that it's not the same one you got. You claim you were attempting to find the mason group, so unless you are trying to pull the "claim you think the suspected mafia is actually the masons to get them to expose themselves" gambit, that's probably not what you are either. Assuming I don't get night killed, I'm pointing at you tomorrow.

If Emperor Demonking wants me to remove the townie role PM from the quoted PM conversation, I will do so.

Check post 1.

The townie role PM is RIGHT THERE!

But I think you knew that when you sent me your PM. You just hoped I didn't.

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-27, 11:27 AM
Uncle Festy and Jontom Xire were playing Rock, Paper, Scissors. "Rock.", "Rock."
"Rock." "Rock."
"Rock." "Rock."
"Rock." "Rock."
"Paper." "Scissors."
The killer or killers woke up, one of the hands present held a gun and shot Jontom Xire. Then shrugged and through a pair of scissors on top of his dead body.
Another hand held a piece of paper and smothered Uncle Festy with it.

Uncle Festy was killed. He was a townie.
Jontom Xire was killed. He was a townie.
Day begins.

Hyozo
2008-10-27, 11:31 AM
Check post 1.

The townie role PM is RIGHT THERE!

But I think you knew that when you sent me your PM. You just hoped I didn't.

No, I just never noticed it there. My mistake.

Fine, maybe you're not as suspicious as I thought. You are wrong, but I'm not quite as convinced of you being mafia any more.

Edit: And Emperor Demonking confirmed that you were just a townie while I was typing.

Jontom Xire
2008-10-27, 11:41 AM
I am curious as to how I died though.

Uncle Festy was shot and smothered. How did I die?

:smallbiggrin:

Woff
2008-10-27, 12:08 PM
Iceddragons

They were arguing innit.

I don't know I'm confused.

Reinholdt
2008-10-27, 12:23 PM
Hmm. I think I actually have this figured out now. Shame I'm dead and all. :smallwink:

Fan
2008-10-27, 02:15 PM
Woff
For being the only other person who pointed today, and have lazer eyebeams!
@_@

Woff
2008-10-27, 02:18 PM
Shhh. Or I'll lazer eyebeem you.

And judo you at the same time.

A world of pain.

Istari
2008-10-27, 02:20 PM
*flips coin*

iceddragons

Edit: I think we need to figure out where this second kill is coming from, it seems unlikely the bad guys would get a night kill and a 2 day night kill so there probably is another killer out there.

Woff
2008-10-27, 02:23 PM
Why are you flipping a coin?

Istari
2008-10-27, 02:26 PM
Why are you asking????:smallwink:

Fan
2008-10-27, 02:28 PM
Shhh. Or I'll lazer eyebeem you.

And judo you at the same time.

A world of pain.
Hey. I KNOW Judo.
And, I'm a vampire sowrd wielding cat, so I guess your being odd in copmparison to myself isn't quiet reasonable.
Istari for flipping a coin which conicdentally landed on a wolf suspect.:smalltongue:

Woff
2008-10-27, 02:36 PM
Why are you asking????:smallwink:

Because I'm interested?

I want to know who else was on the flip.

And I know it fell in my favour so I should probably shut up.

And, I've been doing judo since I was 8, you can't stand to my awesome power. ¬_¬

Fan
2008-10-27, 02:39 PM
Because I'm interested?

I want to know who else was on the flip.

And I know it fell in my favour so I should probably shut up.

And, I've been doing judo since I was 8, you can't stand to my awesome power. ¬_¬
I've been doing martial arts since I was seven in addition to taking forgien language classes, and quite a few other extra ciruclars. Plus I'm Elven kitty vampire. We tend to have the ante when it coems to speed, and sheer awesome.:smallwink::smalltongue:
Although your LAZER comes pretty darn close.

Woff
2008-10-27, 02:43 PM
Beh.

Well.. Well...

I'm bigger than you!

Although, vampire cats are scary.

Fan
2008-10-27, 02:45 PM
Beh.

Well.. Well...

I'm bigger than you!

Although, vampire cats are scary.
*realises this*
>.>
<.<
*flees*
Don't step on me! Pweease?
*kitteh eyes*

Dr. Bath
2008-10-27, 02:54 PM
KILL IT! KILL IT WITH YOUR LAZOR EYEBEEEMZ WOFF!

:smallfurious: :smalltongue:

Oh and by the way F-f-fanboy, you need to strikethrough () your first point (the one in red) for your second vote to count.

Griever
2008-10-27, 02:56 PM
Istari, trust in the coin! Make your own fate! Do you want fries with that? Break the chains of bondage!

Uncle Festy
2008-10-27, 05:11 PM
Sonuva…


Hmm. I think I actually have this figured out now. Shame I'm dead and all. :smallwink:

Yeah, me too. And I think I know one or two baddies. But, I'm dead.
I guess y'all will have to figure it out on your own. Have fun! :smallamused:

hap_hazard
2008-10-27, 05:52 PM
Going by what happened yesterday...

Iceddragons.

Hyozo
2008-10-27, 06:06 PM
Sorry Istari, I have to go with the band wagon which I'm not 100% sure is innocent.

Istari
2008-10-27, 06:28 PM
^Huh?white space

Hyozo
2008-10-27, 06:53 PM
^Huh?white space

I phrased that badly. In other words I know that I'm not a bad guy, I don't know that you're not a bad guy. Since I don't want somebody I know isn't a bad guy (Me) lynched, I'm voting to support the bandwagon targeting somebody I'm not nearly as certain of (you).

Woff
2008-10-27, 06:57 PM
An Istari bandwagon doesn't quite make sense tbh, I can see why you wouldn't be happy with the coin tossing comment. But is it quite worth votes? Reason more.

Hyozo
2008-10-27, 07:21 PM
An Istari bandwagon doesn't quite make sense tbh, I can see why you wouldn't be happy with the coin tossing comment. But is it quite worth votes? Reason more.

In Convoy there were two bandwagons. One, against Emperor Demonking was started due to logic, he claims to be the baner. The other, against me, was started by two random points and became Emperor Dempoking's only chance of survival. The bandwagon against me succeded, I was a bear (wolf role).

Sometimes people reason incorrectly, that was one, this is another. I'm not saying that Istari has a wolf role, or that I'm a baner (I'm not, I'm a townie), but I know I don't have a wolf role and the Istari bandwagon is my only chance to survive today.

Kaboose
2008-10-27, 11:07 PM
*cotion of ponfusion* UHHH.... Istari

Woff
2008-10-28, 10:00 AM
In Convoy there were two bandwagons. One, against Emperor Demonking was started due to logic, he claims to be the baner. The other, against me, was started by two random points and became Emperor Dempoking's only chance of survival. The bandwagon against me succeded, I was a bear (wolf role).

Sometimes people reason incorrectly, that was one, this is another. I'm not saying that Istari has a wolf role, or that I'm a baner (I'm not, I'm a townie), but I know I don't have a wolf role and the Istari bandwagon is my only chance to survive today.

Yes, but why is everybody else joining it?

Screams of wolves voting to save another wolf.

Woff
2008-10-28, 12:20 PM
Somebody post. I'm bored.

Fan
2008-10-28, 03:55 PM
With Woffs good english logic I agree that Istari isn't quite that good, a coice, and with Icedragons being a FLITHY PIRATE!

Istari
2008-10-28, 04:37 PM
*psst* cross out your pont at me

Heroic
2008-10-28, 05:10 PM
point at Istari

Istari
2008-10-28, 05:12 PM
Quick question to demonking
How are ties determined?

Hyozo
2008-10-28, 05:46 PM
Probably the way they usually are. First to reach the number of points they're tied at gets lynched.

Woff
2008-10-28, 05:58 PM
Right, there has to be something behind this Istari vote, I can't accept it as it is.

Seering?

Hyozo
2008-10-28, 06:21 PM
Right, there has to be something behind this Istari vote, I can't accept it as it is.

Yet you can accept the bandwagon against me? Let me explain what happened.

1. Lamech lied, died, and sent A PM to Jontom.
2. I made a failed attempt at humor.
3. My joke set off Jontom's paranoia, and he made an accusation against me.
4. Jontom died. probably because he is one of the best players in this game, but, if the killers sent their attacks in late, they may have also thought they could set me up for todays lynch.
5. People started voting for me, and Istari said something which set off other people's paranoia.
6. People started voting for Istari.
7. I realized that the only way for me to survive today is to lynch Istari.
8. Istari are currently tied at 4 votes each.

Neither of the bandwagons have any reasoning behind them other than paranoia.

Woff
2008-10-28, 06:25 PM
Except that you argued with the wolfed human?

Tenuous I know, but all we've got.

Hyozo
2008-10-28, 06:36 PM
Except that you argued with the wolfed human?

Tenuous I know, but all we've got.

I argued with him because he was accusing me just because I made a joke. While we're on this subject, however, how about we take a look at something else Jontom Xire has said in a different game.


Whichever is the case (like I'm going to tell you) it proves I'm a good guy, so can the seer and fool and masons please contact me so we can form a network.




I was attacked for the same reason Freshmeat and Evnafets were attacked nights 1 and 2 in Werewolf Classic.

Invariably when I am attacked after pointing at someone(s) or making a suspect list it is because the people I suspected were innocent. The wolves try to cast additional suspicion on them. See Werewolf classic again where as long as I was making loud noises about Murska I was safe, as soon as I shifted my points elsewhere I got killed.


It's funny but convenient that no matter how many times you point out logic liek this the wolves always act the same. Mind you I am always ready for wolves to try to bluff me.

Remember Occam's razor.

Woff
2008-10-28, 06:44 PM
Well obviously.

But wolves work in mysterious ways. EVERYBODY knows not to trust that line of reasoning. It would be stupid to make it, why would a wolf be so blatantly obvious!

Thus when a wolf does do that, nobody suspects him for it. It's an easy argument to make.

Istari
2008-10-28, 06:50 PM
I'm lost completely

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-29, 03:31 AM
Ties are decided by whoever reaches the number first.

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-29, 12:47 PM
A new theory was going around. According to that theory, people with Is were a lot more likely to be mass murderers. So the group of you rounded of Iceddragon and Istari and looked at them. "Why don't we lynch both of them?"
"No we should only lynch one, and I choose Iceddragon."
Iceddragon was pushed onto the tracks just before a timid voice said something. "The article of which the theory was based, said that people with eyes were more likely to be mass murderers.
"Oh."

Iceddragons was lynched. He was a townie.

Woff
2008-10-29, 12:51 PM
Beh.

Terribly sorry old chap.

Should we now look at Istari? It's not like the two were mutually exclusive, they could both be human.

It would be better to look at some of the mindless bandwagoners.

Hyozo
2008-10-29, 01:16 PM
I won't say "I told you so", no, instead I'll say "You were informed by me that such was the case"

Woff
2008-10-29, 01:50 PM
You would have said that same if you were a wolf ¬_¬

Emperor Demonking
2008-10-30, 02:17 PM
FF Fanboy was a baner, they called him Squall or Cloud or a bunch of names related to the Final Fantasy games. Who they are we don't know, we do know that they aren't the person who just cut off his head.

Hero 1.0 was also a hero, just like FF Fanboy. They called him Fighter or Black Mage or that hero from the first Dragon Quest game. Who they are we don't know. They probably aren't the person who just shot him.

FF Fanboy was killed. He was a Baner
Hero 1.0 was killed. He was a townie.
Day Begins

Istari
2008-10-30, 03:37 PM
I'm going with kaboose since we dont have any real evidence.:smallsigh:

Heroic
2008-10-30, 04:56 PM
dammit... :smallfurious:

Recaiden
2008-10-31, 06:58 AM
Istari because Hero 1.0 was suspicious of them.

hap_hazard
2008-10-31, 07:38 AM
Woff. -lotsafill-

EDIT: Forgot to post in red. Made a new post anyway, just in case.

Woff
2008-10-31, 10:10 AM
Is that a vote? Care to outline a case?
Hap_Hazard

Shadowcaller
2008-10-31, 10:53 AM
Err... Hero 1.0? (Just to avoid auto-lynch)

Woff
2008-10-31, 11:51 AM
He's dead man. DEAD.

Shadowcaller
2008-10-31, 12:08 PM
He's dead man. DEAD.

Well look at that, FF fanboy then, he better not be dead now because if he is *shakes fist menacingly*.

Dr. Bath
2008-10-31, 12:18 PM
He's dead Dave.

Istari
2008-10-31, 05:40 PM
hero and fanboy both got night killed
so any ideas as to who this second mysterious killer is

Woff
2008-11-01, 06:54 AM
Well look at that, FF fanboy then, he better not be dead now because if he is *shakes fist menacingly*.


Psst. Just follow my vote.

Kaboose
2008-11-01, 10:41 PM
Uh. I'm trusting you here istari hoff but Hap-hazard

Griever
2008-11-02, 12:52 AM
Woff seems very into the game and what-not. Therefore, I will point at him to elicit some reasoning for his points.

This post may or may not have been written after feeling punch-drunk at Tech beating UT. Although probably.

Woff
2008-11-02, 08:29 AM
I voted for hap hazard because he entered the game and made one post, which one word in it, voting for me.

That's just rubbish play, and very suspicious.

Happy?

Shadowcaller
2008-11-02, 08:53 AM
Oh come one, both players I voted for are dead?:smallmad:
*Sigh* Well Woff then...

Woff
2008-11-02, 09:28 AM
Why?!?!

This is the worst bandwagon ever.

Istari
2008-11-02, 10:18 AM
I agree .

hap_hazard
2008-11-02, 10:18 PM
Sorry. Woff.

Emperor Demonking
2008-11-03, 12:16 PM
Woff looked at you with fear in his eyes. Fear being the name of the make of arrow. He stumbled back and gave a sigh, he stumbled back a and prepared to die. "Remember people, remember this. I am a Baner and you shall regret my death."

Woff was lynched. He was a Baner

Emperor Demonking
2008-11-05, 12:14 PM
Shadowcaller gazed at his crystal ball as he yawned. "Oh magical crystal ball. Crystal ball of powerful magic, please tell me who the Mafia is. Tell me, oh great spirits who wofrk through this ball."
Just as the crystal ball was about to speak somebody fell and smashed into it. Shadowcaller yelled. "Hap Hazard."
Then he was shot.

Shadowcaller was killed. He was a seer.
Hap Hazard was killed. He was a townie.

Istari
2008-11-05, 03:09 PM
So the seers are masons or wolves or something I guess

Griever
2008-11-05, 03:11 PM
Can we get an updated player list, pretty please?

Kaboose
2008-11-07, 02:52 PM
Hey everyone. my internet is currently completely stuffed so could I please be auto lynched? trying to work out probblems. I am posting this through an internet cafe so...

Emperor Demonking
2008-11-09, 12:11 PM
The gun men ran into the room and started to scream as he held onto the gun as it buzzed out of control. People screamed, people ducked but more importantly, people died. Their bodies were unrecognisable by the sheep mass of bullets and only 3 people survived.

Day Ends

Everybody but Griever, Kaboose and Istari were autolynched

Lamech
2008-11-09, 12:16 PM
Erm... I think Kaboose asked to be auto'd as well... *goes back to being dead*

Emperor Demonking
2008-11-09, 12:17 PM
I'll autolynch him tommorow.

Emperor Demonking
2008-11-09, 01:50 PM
Kaboose lay down obviously feeling weak and with a fever. He opened his eyes and thought he was seeing things. In front of him Griever held an axe to Istari’s throat and Istari held a gun to Griever’s throat. The two were at stalemate until Kaboose coughed. The reaction set the two off and they each killed the other one.

Town won

Istari was a Baner – Wolves
Griever was a mad seer – Serial killer who knows the seers.
Kaboose was a mafia – Mason careless baners

Griever
2008-11-09, 01:52 PM
Griever's ghost frowns as he floats over the scene. Looking over, he sees Istari's ghost nearby.

Hey, Istari, did we seriously just both lose to an autolynchee?

Uncle Festy
2008-11-09, 01:59 PM
… so the seers were actually seers, all in contact with each other and with a killer who wanted everyone dead? And the Mafia were actually baners who couldn't protect themselves? And the Baners were actually mafias? And the townies were actually… just townies?
*blinks* Ok then.
Woohoo! We won!

Lamech
2008-11-09, 02:06 PM
Funniest ending ever... both lost to an autolynchee.

Istari
2008-11-09, 04:13 PM
I think we did:smallsigh:

Dr. Bath
2008-11-09, 04:18 PM
… so the seers were actually seers, all in contact with each other and with a killer who wanted everyone dead? And the Mafia were actually baners who couldn't protect themselves? And the Baners were actually mafias? And the townies were actually… just townies?
*blinks* Ok then.
Woohoo! We won!

I'm pretty sure the townies didn't win... in fact... I think everyone else won except us. :smalltongue:

Lamech
2008-11-09, 04:32 PM
No the last survivor was a mason. Like the PM of mine that got posted, (way back on post 118) said we mafia were masons that could bane a target everynight. At the end of the game the two remaining night killers targeted each other. Making Kaboose the only remaining survivor.

Hence, a auto-lynchee beat two night killers. Town and mafia win.