can't roy posses people

[Traker]

The reason I made this thread is because I'm pretty sure Roy beaing a ghost can posses people.

[Greg]

Short answer:
No.
Slightly longer answer:
Roy does whatever Rich and the plot dictate. In this case, Roy doesn't possess people.

[hamishspence]

Roy isn't exactly a normal ghost- I think in Celestia, at least, he's a petitioner- an Outsider. Not Undead.

[Belkster11]

Even if Roy COULD possess people, I don't think he would want to. That would be borderline chaotic-evil, right?

[Warlord JK]

I'm pretty sure Roy isn't a ghost, as ghost's are tied to the Material Plane (too lazy to pull out my PH). He's more like a wierd form of scrying where you feel like you're there in person, but not actually. Besides, I think people can see ghosts.

[tribble]

also, roy is trying to be lawful good. possession is more...neutral evil.

[Liwen]

If he was a ghost, Roy could be seen by just about anyone. Like Warlord JK said, he's simply a more complexe undectable scrying ball. However, Julia, while holding the greenhilt might be able to see him.

[HamsterOfTheGod]

The reason I made this thread is because I'm pretty sure Roy beaing a ghost can posses people.
Roy is not a ghost. He's just dead. If every dead character became a ghost you couldn't stop D&D PC's from killing themselves to get the +5 LA.


also, roy is trying to be lawful good. possession is more...neutral evil.

Arrghhh!!!! Can't alignment die in peace?

D&D examples:

- Loops, the vengeful, but friendly, ghost bard, tries to possess Downer (http://www.superunicorn.com/kyle/downer/d25.html), the drow rogue with the heart of gold, in order to prevent Downer from killing the rest of the team, a pious but deadly githyanki fighter, an angst filled mindflayer and a halfling rouge who works for a copper dragon.

- Libris Mortis has an example of a LN ghost, a formerly a cleric of St Cuthbert, who died on a mission and needs to use malevolance power (D&D posession) to have the physical body to finish her mission. She will try to take over a PC and then try to convince the other PC's to help her finish her mission...good hook for when your PC's are not following your "hints".

Non D&D:

You have plenty of examples in fiction, for ex Ghost (with Whoopi, Demi and Swayze) or Kurosowa's Roshoman. And ghosts possession can be a good thing in religion/spirituality/myth such as voodoo, shamans and mediums.

Ghosts can even save your life for real! (http://www.psychics.co.uk/ghosts/ghostminers.html)

[FoE]

The reason I made this thread is because I'm pretty sure Roy being a ghost can possess people.

I'm pretty sure Roy isn't Patrick Swayze. :smalltongue:

[Zeful]

Besides, I think people can see ghosts.

This is incorrect. Ghosts are invisible unless 1.)They have manifested on the material plane. 2.)You are on the Ethereal.

[kpenguin]

also, roy is trying to be lawful good. possession is more...neutral evil.

Oh yeah? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadman):smallamused:

[Optimystik]

Oh yeah? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadman):smallamused:

Deadman? What kind of horribly camp name for a hero is that?

On topic: Roy might do it if he could, just to jump into someone and tell Durkon where Haley and Belkar are. The logical conclusion therefore is that he can't.

[Mike62]

I'm pretty sure Roy isn't Patrick Swayze. :smalltongue:

Neither is Eugene...and he knows it

[Haven]

Oh yeah? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadman):smallamused:

"Next time, ASK PERMISSION!"

[Evil DM Mark3]

Roy is dead, that does not equal ghost.
If he where a ghost he could manifest and be seen (despite what others have said a ghost that has not manifested is invisible but can do NOTHING in the material)
Only ghosts with the Malevolance ability can possess others, not all ghosts do and seeing as he hasn't even if he was a ghost no he can't.

[Roderick_BR]

I think it was covered in the threads about Roy being a ghost or not. He's not the undead creature type (a soul trapped to the material world, yada yada). He's a spirit that can visit the material plane, but is, otherwide, just that, a spirit. He possess no special powers. Only special cases (like special spells) allow him to interact with living people).
And possessing wouldn't be exactly chaotic evil, unless it's forced. It's just neutral. There are people that work by chanelling spirits through himself (you believing it or not, is not the case here now).

Deadman would be considered an expert that gained the ghost template, retaining all his former abilities due to a pact with a minor deity, except that he is permanently invisible and intangible, save rare cases, and that can possess people, but not use others "ghost attacks" like the aging or fear stuff.

[HealthKit]

Oh yeah? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadman):smallamused:

Superman: Come on Bruce, I know a burger place in Metropolis that has the best fries on the east coast. And the milk shakes are so thick...
[Deadman takes control of Superman's body]
Superman: I need your help!
Wonder Woman: That's pretty thick!

*some time later*

[Deadman leaves Superman's body]
Superman: ...You have to eat them with a spoon. What am I doing in Africa?

[MReav]

I'd like to see when Roy possesses someone, he runs into Church who tells him to get out of "his" body.