A Sobering Read:

[Vagnarok]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/11/11/acevedo.pow/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
This was quite the article. I hope you guys get something out of it.

Discuss if you wish.

[reorith]

didn't work. still drunk.

[Kjata]

didn't work. still drunk.

LOL

That was an interesting (and sad) article. It really was 'sobering' as you put it, the buzz of life is gone.

[_Zoot_]

That really is a sad story, its hard to think that people can servive so much and then still talk about it at the end.

[black_Lizzard]

I've read similar things on the French Revolution... using human skin to cover books, make aprons and other things as a substitute for leather. And killing techniques that made me want to vomit though unfortunately i couldn't:

catching babies on bayonets was one of the least repulsive, and i refuse to write the worst

Makes the idea of Bastille (sp?) Day nauseous to me.

[charl]

Meh. I've read worse.

[Cubey]

Doesn't "sober" me at all. As a Pole, I live where the worst of Nazi attrocities were committed, and it is common knowledge for almost everyone from my country. Yet, it does not depress me - if anything, it motivates me further to make the world a better place, both for others and for myself (I'm a part of the world too, you know) to balance out the sorrow and suffering of the past with joy of today.

[Evil DM Mark3]

I shall avoid bringing real world politics into it and simply say that this story was quiet far too long.

[Kantur]

Doesn't "sober" me at all. As a Pole, I live where the worst of Nazi attrocities were committed, and it is common knowledge for almost everyone from my country. Yet, it does not depress me - if anything, it motivates me further to make the world a better place, both for others and for myself (I'm a part of the world too, you know) to balance out the sorrow and suffering of the past with joy of today.

I'd have to say this is pretty much how I feel. Ok, I'm not Polish and don't live near where these things happened, but reading stories like that take me right back to when I visited Auschwitz. All I'll say for now unless people want me to type up more later is this: Even after so many years, the atmosphere there is powerful and you can feel it almost straight away as you approach the gates.

[Vagnarok]

Doesn't "sober" me at all. As a Pole, I live where the worst of Nazi attrocities were committed, and it is common knowledge for almost everyone from my country. Yet, it does not depress me - if anything, it motivates me further to make the world a better place, both for others and for myself (I'm a part of the world too, you know) to balance out the sorrow and suffering of the past with joy of today.

Your logic seems a little off to me.
I'm all for being motivated to make the world a better place, but are you so hardened to sadness and violence that you are unable to empathize with the pain felt by those that lived through the holocaust? I am extremely skeptical that you have any sort of life experience that even remotely compares to what they went through.

[Cubey]

Empathise, yes. But brood about, be depressed or saddened, no. That wouldn't do any good at all.

[Flame of Anor]

Atrocities? Don't get me started on the Indian Mutiny--both sides, no less!

[Vagnarok]

Atrocities? Don't get me started on the Indian Mutiny--both sides, no less!

Please educate this ignorant soul.

[bosssmiley]

Please educate this ignorant soul.

The bad old days (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Rebellion_of_1857). Neither side comes away with credit. :smallannoyed: