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Eloel
2008-11-17, 12:25 PM
I just wanted to point out that, in
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html
the wizards teleport at half way the word, coming with a -port, going with a tele-, while at
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0513.html
we can see tsukiko saying the whole word. Is this intended?

Knolan
2008-11-17, 12:28 PM
probably just a joke giant came up with later.

rayne_dragon
2008-11-17, 01:21 PM
I guess Tsukiko just speaks faster.

NerfTW
2008-11-17, 01:31 PM
probably just a joke giant came up with later.

I think the opening post was a joke.

Right?

Please tell me this was a joke.

Linkavitch
2008-11-18, 12:54 PM
Some discrepancies through the whole comic. I remember the "Tele-" "-Port!" joke back before the attack on Azure City.

CaptainIreland
2008-11-18, 01:02 PM
Some discrepancies through the whole comic. I remember the "Tele-" "-Port!" joke back before the attack on Azure City.

I thought I did too, but I couldn't find it...

Assuming the first appearance of that joke was the Oracle's teleporters, I assume it was a joke that was first conceived while writing that comic.

Shhalahr Windrider
2008-11-18, 10:29 PM
I guess Tsukiko just speaks faster.
If she were saying it faster, she'd have gotten the whole word out before she popped in. It all would have ben said at the place she was leaving.

In the comic, she instead seems to have made the teleport before she even started saying the word.

Flickerdart
2008-11-18, 10:53 PM
Saying the name != the incantation. They might just say it from force of habit, and Tsukiko said it late.

Warlord JK
2008-11-18, 11:25 PM
Really doubt that this matters, as it probably varies from wizard to wizard.

FujinAkari
2008-11-18, 11:55 PM
Its a viewer discrepancy. When BEING teleported you hear "Tele" at the old location, and "Port" at the new, because the spell is taking effect as the shift occurs.

However, to someone watching you appear, they will simply see "Teleport!"

The same to someone who watches you vanish.

In essence, you are simotainiously in both locations during the time "Teleport!" is yelled.

bdh5533
2008-11-19, 01:51 AM
Okay a plausible (in the world of magic and resurrections etc etc) explanation for the discrepency:

the lizards that were teleporting were clearly very high level. since the oracle asks them to prepare the resurrection spell instead of raise dead next time he gets killed.

i would pose this answer:

when casting greater teleport the spell takes longer and thus you come up saying tele- * -port

when casting regular teleport you can chose to say the word as the initiation or as the ending of the spell.

kabbor
2008-11-19, 02:11 AM
Another example is http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0366.html. Here the wizard says teleport _before_ disappearing. This is used in all instances involving this wizard - In the first, the party pops in with the wizards mouth open, but no sound, and in the other, they appear in the eagles nest with the wizard saying "Welcome to Azure city *Hic*".

The other applicable strip i can think of is http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0497.html. here the cleric gets "PLANE SHIFT" in upon landing.

So, it's either a wizard thing, or a joke the giant thought of for that comic. We are likely to see more of it: Indeed, it didn't suprise me in this strip.

CaptainIreland
2008-11-19, 10:49 AM
Another example is http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0366.html. Here the wizard says teleport _before_ disappearing. This is used in all instances involving this wizard - In the first, the party pops in with the wizards mouth open, but no sound, and in the other, they appear in the eagles nest with the wizard saying "Welcome to Azure city *Hic*".

The other applicable strip i can think of is http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0497.html. here the cleric gets "PLANE SHIFT" in upon landing.

So, it's either a wizard thing, or a joke the giant thought of for that comic. We are likely to see more of it: Indeed, it didn't suprise me in this strip.

Yeah, those were all the examples I could find. Despite feeling otherwise initially, that was the first occurance of the joke, so he probably just came up with it since they'd say teleport twice in the comic.

Prowl
2008-11-19, 03:55 PM
Just a matter of style, I think... or possibly indicating a different variation of the spell.

d'Bwobsling
2008-11-19, 07:35 PM
I think all spell have to be said in draconic unless you take silent spell

SPoD
2008-11-20, 07:04 AM
The answer is: whatever is needed for the reader to know what spell is being used. If we see someone teleporting away, the Teleport comes first. If we see someone teleporting in, the Teleport comes last. That one strip had the rare occurrence of teleporting in, then out, so it became a joke.

Sometimes, the need to communicate to the reader exactly what is happening overrules strict internal consistency.

Caractacus
2008-11-20, 07:45 AM
The answer is: whatever is needed for the reader to know what spell is being used. If we see someone teleporting away, the Teleport comes first. If we see someone teleporting in, the Teleport comes last. That one strip had the rare occurrence of teleporting in, then out, so it became a joke.

Sometimes, the need to communicate to the reader exactly what is happening overrules strict internal consistency.

OOh...the SPoD has the logics!

Is all quite sensible really after all... :smallcool:

Lissibith
2008-11-20, 08:36 AM
Its a viewer discrepancy. When BEING teleported you hear "Tele" at the old location, and "Port" at the new, because the spell is taking effect as the shift occurs.

However, to someone watching you appear, they will simply see "Teleport!"

The same to someone who watches you vanish.

In essence, you are simotainiously in both locations during the time "Teleport!" is yelled.

Actually, that's the most sensible solution I've seen in this thread. I'm going with it.