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Thurbane
2008-11-18, 03:46 PM
Just wondering what people's opinion would be for the most adaptable 4 man party i.e. a party which could change it's focus to meet a particular challenge?

I'd put forth the following:

* Facotum
* Binder
* Rogue/Chameleon
* Bard/Master of Masks

...probably not optimal, though...

Tempest Fennac
2008-11-18, 03:50 PM
I'd say Archivist, Druid, Wizard and Beguiller due to how much magic you'd have access to (the Animal Companion could compensate for a lack of frontline power).

Fax Celestis
2008-11-18, 03:50 PM
Factotum, Bard, Incarnate Totemist, Binder would be my choice.

PurinaDragonCho
2008-11-18, 05:58 PM
My current character is extremely versatile. He's a rogue 3 / archivist 9. I took Able Learner and kept Open Lock, Disable Device and UMD maxed out. He can do all of those things as well as a 12th level rogue, with 5th level spells as a bonus.

Next time we get an opportunity to play, I plan to get a cold iron weapon with the Sacred enhancement, Gauntlets of Weaponry Arcane, and a Ring of Adamantine Touch. DR mostly won't be a problem, then.

The other charecters in the party are a Barbarian, a Warmage and a Swashbuckler/Champion of Corellon. Honestly, I think my guy and the barbarian could do pretty well in most circumstances.

Emperor Tippy
2008-11-18, 06:02 PM
Factotum/Chameleon
Factotum
Wizard
Archivist

Is prolly the most versatile 4 person party.

mostlyharmful
2008-11-18, 06:03 PM
Factotum
Wizard
Archivist
DMs Girlfriend
:smallsmile:

Edit:

Rules Lawyer
Munchkin
Pizza-Bitch
DMs Girlfriend

BRC
2008-11-18, 06:07 PM
Factotum
Factotum
Factotum
Factotum

Rei_Jin
2008-11-18, 06:15 PM
Beguiler10/Rainbow Servant10
Warlock12/Chameleon8
Wizard3/Druid3/Arcane Hierophant10/Mystic Theurge4
Factotum 20


You can make any item, pass any skill check, cast any spell, and defeat any monster that gets in your way.

I can't think of a single situation that a party like this couldn't solve.

Knolan
2008-11-18, 07:03 PM
Druid, druid, druid, druid (honestly) you can try 4x cleric too.

Moff Chumley
2008-11-18, 07:15 PM
Tippy, Tippy's clone, Tippy's clone, and whoever made up pun-pun.

Emperor Tippy
2008-11-18, 07:20 PM
Tippy, Tippy's clone, Tippy's clone, and whoever made up pun-pun.

Haha.

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Does the party best able to adapt the environment to suit itself count? Because in that case: Cindy, Planar Shepherd, DMM Cleric, and Cindy's Daddy.

kopout
2008-11-18, 07:51 PM
my friend hombrewd a class that is extreamly flexible called a "combatant" at first level a combatant , a barbarian , a bard and a fighter took out a nest of mind flayers. The fact that repeating c-bows where like the one in van helsing (with removable clips) didn't hurt.

monty
2008-11-18, 07:58 PM
Didn't Another Gaming Comic do an arc with an all-cleric party that basically slaughtered everything?

Neftren
2008-11-18, 08:00 PM
Warblade (Swordsage Works Too), Bard (or Wizard), Scout (or Rogue), Cleric (or Favored Soul)

Yukitsu
2008-11-18, 08:15 PM
Hmm. Beguiler, wizard/anima mage, wizard, cloistered cleric, would be my bet. Poor on melee until later levels though.

Pie Guy
2008-11-18, 10:57 PM
Help I'm on fire man is able to fufill all positions as long as they require him to be wet.

ClericofPhwarrr
2008-11-19, 12:23 AM
Cindy's Daddy

Do elaborate.

Emperor Tippy
2008-11-19, 12:30 AM
Do elaborate.

Well see, Cindy is the child of a fling her father had. When her mother showed up and dropped her off he got annoyed and decided that taking care of her was too much trouble. So he just cast Mind Rape on her and crammed her full of about a thousand years worth of arcane knowledge and memories. He has the exact same build as Cindy except he's level 30 and has epic spell casting. :smallbiggrin:

ClericofPhwarrr
2008-11-19, 12:36 AM
Well see, Cindy is the child of a fling her father had. When her mother showed up and dropped her off he got annoyed and decided that taking care of her was too much trouble. So he just cast Mind Rape on her and crammed her full of about a thousand years worth of arcane knowledge and memories. He has the exact same build as Cindy except he's level 30 and has epic spell casting. :smallbiggrin:

So the party you listed was too crowded by three (four if you count the animal companion; a lot more if you count the pokeballs and other assistants).

Emperor Tippy
2008-11-19, 12:43 AM
So the party you listed was too crowded by three (four if you count the animal companion; a lot more if you count the pokeballs and other assistants).

Yeah, but a party of one seems kinda to not be in the spirit. Same with a party of 4 identical people. :smallwink:

mabriss lethe
2008-11-19, 12:45 AM
I think the most adaptable/resilient 4 person party would probably be best if you had two characters that act as fixed points and two as floating points.

Fixed points:
1. either a druid or a cleric
2. An arcane caster (preferred) or an Invoker

Floating points:
3. A binder or Incarnum wielder
4. Bard or Rogue

monty
2008-11-19, 12:47 AM
4. Bard or Rogue Factotum

Fixed it for you.

BobVosh
2008-11-19, 12:48 AM
4x Factotum 5/Master of Masks 1/Factotum 6-8

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88633

mabriss lethe
2008-11-19, 12:49 AM
Fixed it for you.

there is that. I forget about the Factotum, never actually played one and don't own the source material

monty
2008-11-19, 12:51 AM
there is that. I forget about the Factotum, never actually played one and don't own the source material

They're basically rogue++, since they can afford a higher Int.

Another_Poet
2008-11-19, 10:44 AM
Cleric (necromancy specialist)
Cleric (healbot/tank)
Cleric (buffbot/tank)
Druid (wildshape or summoning specialist)

Mushroom Ninja
2008-11-19, 10:58 AM
Well without using anything too cheesy, I would say:

Factotum
Wizard
Druid
Cleric