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maurmink
2008-11-26, 10:07 AM
I have a game coming soon where I need a practically optimised lvl. 30 character to go through some gladiator arenas. The idea is a "rock upon which the vital fluids of my foes spill".

Dwarf lvl. 30 Fighter/Iron Vanguard/Adamantine Soldier (from Martial Power)
Stats (Our DM allows 32 point buy):
Str 28
Con 28
Dex 12
Int 10
Wis 14
Cha 12

Feats:

- Weapon Focus (Hammer)
- Shield Specialization
- Plate Armour Proficiency
- Weapon Proficiency (that superior hammer from the AV)
- Iron Will
- Great Fortitude
- Improved Second Wind
- Durable
- Dwarven Durability
- Toughness
- Hammer Rhythm
- Hammer Mastery

Wields a one-handed warhammer, heavy shield, (masterwork) Plate armour.
This would give me an AC of 50= (10+15+2(shield)+1(feat)+14(armour)+2(Epic Destiny)+6(Enhancement bonus)

At-will attack: 2d12+18 damage, 9 on a miss, 9 when I push.

Anything I missed? Any other feats worth it?

KKL
2008-11-26, 10:24 AM
Kill Improved Second WInd. It sucks. I'm on my last legs, I'll toss advice at you later. But while you're here, mind posting your level 1 stats, and your powers while you're at it?

Djinn_in_Tonic
2008-11-26, 10:26 AM
Some thoughts:

Instead of Weapon Proficiency, grab Dwarven Weapon Training. It nets you proficiency in ALL hammers and axes, and +2 damage to boot.

Consider going Battlerager instead of Weapon Talent as your Fighter type, especially with that Constitution. If you do, pick up the Dwarf Stoneblood feat. You'll find yourself tougher by an extraordinary degree.

Epic Recovery, if you're interested, will net you a second Second Wind per encounter. Given that it's a minor action for Dwarves, it seems a solid choice.

maurmink
2008-11-26, 11:31 AM
Starting stats:
Str: 18
Con: 20
Wis: 12
The rest 10, and Int 8.

Dwarven Weapon Training is like Weapon Focus + Weapon Proficiency, except that it is a +2 feat bonus rather than +3. Something to consider if I am in need of feat slots.
I just read Improved Second Wind again. It sucks, I'll drop it.
Amazing that I overlooked Battlerager. I haven't properly read Martial Power yet, but there is some good stuff in there..

Gao
2008-11-26, 11:38 AM
Well, what are you trying to do with your dorf? Are you trying to get super-high AC, or dish out hammer damage? A little more guidance on whatyou're trying to optimize would put us a long way forwards.

Charity
2008-11-26, 11:41 AM
If you are looking to optimise a dwarven fighter you really need to look at battle rager, also consider making a multiclass 'Hexhammer' (warlock hybrid) for the added curse damage and other damage options.

@^ he's looking for an arena fighter, so heavy on damage, heavy on durability. I assume it will be one fight per day and thus the ability to 'nova' is also a bonus.

maurmink
2008-11-26, 12:01 PM
I'm trying to go for a super-high AC, dishing out moderate amounts of damage. Incredibly durable, incredibly hard to hit and incredibly hard to escape.

I should probably mention that we're in a 3 PC's vs. 3 PC's situation, with 4 encounters. So it needs to survive a lot of stuff for 4 encounters straight. The emphasis is not on damage, I've got a striker on my team for that. The emphasis is on Durability.

I like Battlerager.

An updated build:
Dwarf lvl. 30 Battlerager Fighter/Iron Vanguard/Adamantine Soldier

Str 26
Con 28
Dex 12
Int 10
Wis 14
Cha 12

Feats:

- Shield Specialization
- Plate Armour Proficiency
- Dwarven Weapon Training
- Iron Will
- Great Fortitude
- Dwarf Stoneblood
- Durable
- Dwarven Durability
- Toughness
- Hammer Rhythm
- Hammer Mastery
- Stoneheart Warrior
- Epic Recovery

Craghammer (Brutal 2), 19-20 crit. range
At-will attack: 2d10+16 damage, 9 on a miss, 9 when I push.

Self-Healing:
Second wind is a free action, twice per encounter. Healing surge value is 66, 22 healing surges.
Battlerage Vigor: 32 temporary hit points

NPCMook
2008-11-26, 02:51 PM
You only have 12 feats listed, you need 6 more...

Plate Specialization maybe?

maurmink
2008-11-26, 03:53 PM
Thing is, Plate Specialisation doesn't stack with Shield Specialisation, which is listed.

I could always drop Shield Specialisation and take Plate Specialisation + Lightning Reflexes.

Any ideas? Other feats?

maurmink
2008-11-27, 03:50 AM
The only other problem I see is in his other defences.
He gets:

Fort = 10 + 15 + 9 (Con) + 2 (feat) + 6 (Enhancement) = 42
Will = 10 + 15 + 2 + 2 + 6 = 35
Ref = 10 + 15 + 1 + 1 + 6 + 2 (Shield) = 35

We do not have leaders, so if we face a caster, there might be some trouble..

Charity
2008-11-27, 04:30 AM
If you want to be durable with a super high AC you might be better off with a paladin, they are quite hard to put down.

@V no one soaks up the smack like a paladin, though battle ragers may have changed that.

Though I don't think the BR's class feature temp HP's stack with themselves (just with those from invigorating powers) which seems to be a common misinterpretation (though only important if you are suffering the death of a thousand cuts where each attack does less than your con bonus in damage.)

KKL
2008-11-27, 04:55 AM
If you want to be durable with a super high AC you might be better off with a paladin, they are quite hard to put down.

He's already using Plate, which Pallies get for free.