Eloel
2008-11-28, 01:37 PM
I'm jealous of dspeyer's thread to some point, so I'll just copy-paste part of the rules :)
I was toying around with Gestalt, when this idea occured to me. What could be the best straight-leveled gestalt build be? By straight-leveled, I mean 20 X/20 Y, you CAN take LA, but it would shut down an entire side. You can also skip levels, if you want a PrC after some point. So, here we go :)
Old Rules as written by Duke
Unless otherwise specified in the specific challenge, the following rules and guidelines are always in effect:
* Gestalt builds; 28-point buy; use any WOTC 3.5 product (including Dragon magazine) except where noted (only 3.0 products with an official upgrade to 3.5 are allowed)
* Make all builds to ECL 20. However, indicate the minimum ECL the build is playable at (the level at which all LA and/or racial HD, if applicable, are accounted for) and label any level that indicates a "power break" where the build has a significant jump in power level. Provide a detailed description of how the build operates.
* Any race with a listed level adjustment is allowed (no racial progressions from Savage Species, please). LA and HD each apply to one side of the gestalt; you may include LA and HD on the same side as each other, or on other sides. No LA buyoff. LA is applied before racial HD, which must be paid off before class levels on that side. Examples: LA X / RHD Y / class Z / ... // class A / ... -OR- LA X / class Y / ... // RHD A / class B / ...
* Multiclass at will, but see "voting".
* Up to two flaws are allowed, but see "voting".
* Templates are allowed, but see "voting".
* Voting: Upon the close of entries for each challenge, members of the forum may vote in-thread for the build that best represents the goals set out by the challenge. The voting criteria should consist of:
o Functionality: How well does the build do in its primary role as specified in the challenge?
o Weaknesses: Does the build have any glaring weaknesses that can be exploited?
o Playability: How much of the 1-20 level range can the build be played at and be effective?
o Creativity: Clever use of races, classes, and/or feats that may not be "typical" choices
o Cheese: Minimizing the number of cheese points
+ Using flaws (1 point each)
+ Ignoring mutliclassing penalties -- some DMs actually do enforce this in gestalt (1 point each)
+ Single-level dips that would require several pages of justification to RP properly (1 point each)
+ Templates that would require several pages of justification to RP properly (1 point per +1 LA)
+ Attempting to use more than one PrC at any given level (1 point each)
+ Attempting to use "dual progression" PrCs (1,000,000 points each)
+ Over-dependence on items (1 point per indispensable item)
+ Over-dependence on Diplomacy or Use Magic Device skills (1,000,000 points each)
I was toying around with Gestalt, when this idea occured to me. What could be the best straight-leveled gestalt build be? By straight-leveled, I mean 20 X/20 Y, you CAN take LA, but it would shut down an entire side. You can also skip levels, if you want a PrC after some point. So, here we go :)
Old Rules as written by Duke
Unless otherwise specified in the specific challenge, the following rules and guidelines are always in effect:
* Gestalt builds; 28-point buy; use any WOTC 3.5 product (including Dragon magazine) except where noted (only 3.0 products with an official upgrade to 3.5 are allowed)
* Make all builds to ECL 20. However, indicate the minimum ECL the build is playable at (the level at which all LA and/or racial HD, if applicable, are accounted for) and label any level that indicates a "power break" where the build has a significant jump in power level. Provide a detailed description of how the build operates.
* Any race with a listed level adjustment is allowed (no racial progressions from Savage Species, please). LA and HD each apply to one side of the gestalt; you may include LA and HD on the same side as each other, or on other sides. No LA buyoff. LA is applied before racial HD, which must be paid off before class levels on that side. Examples: LA X / RHD Y / class Z / ... // class A / ... -OR- LA X / class Y / ... // RHD A / class B / ...
* Multiclass at will, but see "voting".
* Up to two flaws are allowed, but see "voting".
* Templates are allowed, but see "voting".
* Voting: Upon the close of entries for each challenge, members of the forum may vote in-thread for the build that best represents the goals set out by the challenge. The voting criteria should consist of:
o Functionality: How well does the build do in its primary role as specified in the challenge?
o Weaknesses: Does the build have any glaring weaknesses that can be exploited?
o Playability: How much of the 1-20 level range can the build be played at and be effective?
o Creativity: Clever use of races, classes, and/or feats that may not be "typical" choices
o Cheese: Minimizing the number of cheese points
+ Using flaws (1 point each)
+ Ignoring mutliclassing penalties -- some DMs actually do enforce this in gestalt (1 point each)
+ Single-level dips that would require several pages of justification to RP properly (1 point each)
+ Templates that would require several pages of justification to RP properly (1 point per +1 LA)
+ Attempting to use more than one PrC at any given level (1 point each)
+ Attempting to use "dual progression" PrCs (1,000,000 points each)
+ Over-dependence on items (1 point per indispensable item)
+ Over-dependence on Diplomacy or Use Magic Device skills (1,000,000 points each)