Don't Vote Up a Monster #2: I Find Your Lack of Votes Disturbing (ROUND 4!!)

[Kellus]

Don't Vote Up a Monster

These days it's pretty easy to get delusions of grandeur and feelings of empowerment. You might think you're "making a difference" with your votes in the many, many (MANY) vote up a thingy threads. Well, I'm here to cure those problems. Welcome to Don't Vote Up a Monster, where your votes count for absolutely NOTHING.

So the last DVUaM went pretty well. It ended up with a monster that pretty much all of you loathed entirely. It was indeed pretty dumb in every way. So now, I'm doing it again. Surely this "vote" will also end with a completely stupid monster that nobody will ever want to use.

Current nonvote is for both size and CR. Please don't vote for only one aspect from each. If you don't vote true dragon from one, please don't vote true dragon from the other as well, since they have their own rules for size and CR.

Type Loser – DRAGON


{table=head]Type|Votes
Aberration|0
Animal|2
Construct|2
Dragon|-6
Elemental|2
Fey|-1
Giant|2
Humanoid|2
Magical Beast|1
Monstrous Humanoid|0
Ooze|0
Outsider|1
Plant|-4
Undead|1
Vermin|1
[/table]

Subtype Losers – ARCHON, GOBLINOID, INCORPOREAL


{table=head]
Subtype|Votes
Air|1
Angel|-3
Aquatic|1
Archon|-4
Augmented|-2
Chaotic|1
Cold|0
Earth|1
Evil|1
Extraplanar|-1
Fire|0
Goblinoid|-5
Good|1
Incorporeal|-5
Lawful|-2
Native|1
Reptilian|-2
Shapechanger|-1
Water|0
Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway?|-3
NONE|0[/table]

Alignment Loser – LAWFUL NEUTRAL FUNKY


{table=head]
Alignment Aspect|Votes
Lawful|-12
Neutral (L-C)|-6
Chaotic|-5
Good|-3
Neutral (G-E)|-9
Evil|-6
Funky|-13
Neutral (F-S)|-1
Square|-6[/table]

Current Nonvote: SIZE AND CR


{table=head]
Size|Votes
Fine|0
Diminutive|0
Tiny|0
Small|0
Medium|0
Large|0
Huge|0
Gargantuan|0
Colossal|0
Colossal+|0
Colossal++|0
True Dragon|0[/table]

{table=head]CR Bracket|Votes
1-5|0
6-10|0
11-15|0
16-20|0
21-25|0
26-30|0
31+|0
True Dragon|0[/table]

[afroakuma]

Well, since I find this whole idea quite absurd, I'm not even going to consider voting Dragon.

[puppyavenger]

Well, since I find this whole idea quite absurd, I'm not even going to consider voting Dragon.

agreed, dragons get far far too much screentiem these days

[Shadow_Elf]

A Dragon?, you've got to be kidding me. I anti-vote Dragon, and then I vote for Fey. Wouldn't a Fey be cool guys?

[Eldan]

Who needs more Fey.

[Debihuman]

I am not voting for Dragon.

Debby

[Zocelot]

Oozes are disgusting creatures, and impossible to use. I would hate it if that ended up being the creatures type.

[Samurai Jill]

Wait- logically speaking, isn't everyone who fails to post in this thread failing to vote for all options simultaneously?

[Zeta Kai]

Anyone who posts in this thread has lost already.

Also, Dragons are stupid.

[Moff Chumley]

I refuse to vote for fey. I would like a Dragon, though.

[UnChosenOne]

Dragons don't get my votes a) they are lame and b) suck.

[Szilard]

ooze for the lose!

[Shadow_Elf]

Anyone who posts in this thread has lost already.


Might you mean that we have all lost...

THE GAME?

(If not, then you just lost it anyways :smallbiggrin:)

[Raroy]

I am so not voting for plants. I don't have a flower obsession you know.

[LordZarth]

I would never vote for Monstrous Humanoid

[pyrefiend]

A plant monster? I can't imagine why anyone would vote for such a thing...

[Reath]

GAWD!

I lost the

GAME

And I would completly be horrified if it was a Plant.

[Eighth_Seraph]

You know what monsters are underused and have nearly no variation? Dragons. Therefore, I'll vote for Dragon, but I find Magical Beasts so overdone and bland that I'll do everything possible to make sure that one never sees the light of day.

[Maroon]

Nobody in my entire extended family would ever vote for Monstrous Humanoid.

[Vagnarok]

Well I don't vote Undead.

[Owrtho]

I'd never vote for an Aberration, so I'll just vote for everything else.

Owrtho

[Eloel]

Ok this just is enough, Feys? Can't you be original, I'd never vote for that.

[Ascension]

I have no idea why anyone is suggesting a plantlike abomination!

[Moral Wiz]

I refuse utterly to vote for any Fey. I cast my vote for Dragon.

[Mewtarthio]

Dragons are stupid. It's impossible for anyone, especially Kellus, to make a dragon that's actually unique.

[vegetalss4]

i totally agree Dragons are the worst i vote against them, however i do not care whatever else it becomes so i cast a vote for everything else

[TheCheshireHat]

Indeed, Dragons are so overdone and cliché that no one in their right minds would vote for them.

[The Glyphstone]

I'll vote for Dragon, and anti-vote against Plant.

[DracoDei]

Well, someone is probably going to try to convince you I am voting for Dragon. This will be a base libel and should be ignored utterly. It should not be plain to anyone looking at my nick that that isn't something I would ever even consider doing. Do not allow yourself to be deceived in this matter.

[Neithan]

I really have to say, I don't get it what we're really supposed to do here.

I mean: I completely understand what's going on here. This is not overly twisted at all. Nobody could ever get confused by this.

[Alteran]

Outsiders are stupid, and I hope they don't win.

[Mercenary Pen]

I refuse to vote for vermin- ever- in my entire life.

[Mortimer]

Dragons are really cool and we need more of them, unlike those stupid constructs. There are already far too many of them. Please don't bother making another one.

[Lappy9000]

I displayed my hatred of Dragon types before in the last thread of this ridiculous game, and I once again shall refrain for voting for them.

It should also be noted that the last Don't Vote Up a Monster was a complete disaster and I am ashamed at myself for taking part and even more so at Kellus for bringing up this stupid debacle once again!

[MammonAzrael]

I don't like Plants. Plants are dumb.

[TheCheshireHat]

I mean: I completely understand what's going on here. This is not overly twisted at all. Nobody could ever get confused by this.

Wrong! You obviously have absolutely no grasp on what is going on here! :smallbiggrin:

Also, when aren´t we going to not start unvoting for whatever is not next?

At this rate I´m going to end up smothered under huge pile of negatives. I mean, not start down supported by a small hole of positives... My brain hurts

[Enlong]

Okay, I won't vote then.

seriously, I'm not voting. And none of those non-votes either.

Okay, Okay. You got me... I'll...

NOT vote! Ha! You really thought you had me, didn't you?

[thegurullamen]

Dude: Who here votes for Dragons? No one? Sit down, anti-man!

Anti-man: No! Anti-man will no longer be silenced! Dragons, I say!

Dude: Like, whatevs.

[Kellus]

So it turns out that nobody in their right mind wants a dragon monster. Sucks to be you guys, 'cause that's what I'm making! A true dragon, in fact! The single most complicated and convoluted kind of monster in all of 3.5! How do you like THEM apples?

The next nonvote is on subtypes. Please don't not vote for more than two of them. But whatever.

[Raroy]

An Archon would be stupid dumb.

(Why did you guys non-vote for dragons? It's unoriginal and plant monsters are original.....kinda.)

[Mewtarthio]

Incorporeal dragons? Dragons are big, scary monsters! They shouldn't be incorporeal! The only thing more idiotic than that would be the Archon subtype!

[starwoof]

EDIT: durr I cant read.

[Lord_Gareth]

Fae is not a subtype. You can't even refuse to vote for it.

But I will die before I see an [b]Incorporeal Archon[b] as a dragon. DIE, I SAY!

[starwoof]

Whoops, I forgot to throw an augmented in there.:smallredface: I dont vote for that then. I meant augmented fae.

[Mercenary Pen]

Ah well, dragons may be nice compared with vermin, but incorporeal shapeshifter is the worst approach that could ever be taken.

[Ascension]

I can hardly fathom anything more idiotic than a goblinoid dragon. I mean, it's a complete contradiction! How can something be a goblin and a dragon? It just can't happen!

[Owrtho]

I'd never vot for Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway? or Augmented subtypes, but I will vote for everything else.

Owrtho

[UnChosenOne]

I won't never ever anyway vote Reptilian and Incorporeal. But i will vote everything else.

[paddyfool]

No chance whatsoever of a vote for Extraplanar shapechanger

[Eighth_Seraph]

While I shudder at the thought of yet another dragon entering the ranks of creation (no, really, I do) I would be especially repulsed by something as overdone as an Incorporeal dragon. Or one that also happens to be an Archon. It's overdone. It's trite. I expect better than that sort of tripe from you, Kellus.

[Alteran]

There's no way I would ever vote for extraplanar and lawful.

[mikeejimbo]

Totally not voting for Angel. Angel Dragon? That's dumb.

[PairO'Dice Lost]

Given my rather...diabolical tendencies, I would normally be inclined to vote Law and Evil. Thus, I absolutely refuse to unvote for Law and Water.

[Limos]

I don't vote for Goblinoid.

That would just be silly.

[vegetalss4]

i will vote ageints goblinoid and archon subtybe just one of them is a contradiction, both woulæd just be stupid

[Debihuman]

I am not voting for Angel.

Debby
Whoever heard of an angelic dragon?????

[Zeta Kai]

I would never vote for Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway?. That's not even a proper subtype.

[pyrefiend]

A lawful, goblinoid dragon? I shudder to think of the frame of mind one must be in to even consider voting for both of those. Lawful, maybe. But goblinoid? That's just stupid.

[Eldan]

There's some really stupid combinations of subtypes out there... like Cold, Fire. That just makes no sense.

[Lord_Gareth]

OOC
Wow, Zeta was right. This is the most sick, twisted, cruel voting the community could have ever possibly devised. Wow.

[TheCheshireHat]

A Angelic Goblinoid Dragon would be the stupidest thing ever created by man, and thus I am most decidedly not voting for that.

[Juhn]

"Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway?" What kind of an option is that? Whatever it is, I most certainly am not voting for it.

Also, Reptilian dragons are so passé. I would never deign to give my vote to one of those.

[Ascension]

Here's the score so far, assuming Owrtho's vote for (almost) everything doesn't count (unlike in the first contest).


{table=head]
Subtype|Votes
Air|0
Angel|-3
Aquatic|0
Archon|-5
Augmented|-2
Chaotic|0
Cold|-1
Earth|0
Evil|0
Extraplanar|-2
Fire|-1
Goblinoid|-5
Good|0
Incorporeal|-5
Lawful|-3
Native|0
Reptilian|-2
Shapechanger|-2
Water|-1
Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway?|-3
NONE|0[/table]

So it looks like we'd absolutely loathe an Incorporeal Goblinoid Archon Dragon.

[DracoDei]

Reptilian would be totally redundant with Dragon, so I have to vote against that... also I have to agree with others who have spoken out against Goblinoid I mean, I know you are terrible at homebrewing, but attempting that should bring out a new low, even for you...

[Thunderbuckets]

I have no desire whatsoever to see an Incorporeal dragon, but I think it must be said how much I would hate an Angelic dragon, so whatever you do, don't make one of those. I'm warning you all!

[Kellus]

The nonvotes are in, and the monster that you slimeballs would absolutely hate to see is apparently a Dragon (Archon, Goblinoid, Incorporeal). And so it shall be!

Next nonvote is for alignment aspects. Please don't not vote for more than three of them, preferably on different axes. But, well, whatever. It's not like your votes mean anything anyway.

[puppyavenger]

funky, chaotic, and neutral

[Owrtho]

I'd hate to see a true funky (neutral neutral funky), So my votes go to all others.

Owrtho

[PairO'Dice Lost]

I'd vote for absolutely anything but Lawful Evil Funky.

[DracoDei]

On the theory that villians should always be cooler than the PCs I beg you not to make this thing Square.

Also, flexiability just makes a villian to hard to run, and adds no interest what-so-ever to it from the players perspective, so it really shouldn't be Neutral on the Law/Chaos axis, and besides which, we usually go for the corners I think, and why mess with success?

And Evil Villians are totally overdone and worn out... please avoid that.

[Limos]

I would vote for anything excpet Lawful Evil Funky. That would be a travesty.

[MammonAzrael]

I hate Lawful Good Squares! But triangles are ok.

[Raroy]

Funky neutral? What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything to me!

[Alteran]

True Funky is a ridiculous idea. Who would ever want that?

[Mewtarthio]

It's a pretty crazy-sounding beast, so it has to be Funky. There's no way you could ever pull off a Square Incorporeal Goblinoid Archon Dragon.

Also, the Archon subtype means it's automatically CG. If you make it Lawful Evil, I will lose all respect for you as a homebrewer.

[LordZarth]

Ooh, a vote for Chaotic, Evil, and Funky here.

And I'd never in my life think of voting for a Lawful Neutral Square monster. Wow, that would be stupid.

[Reath]

Ugh, how horrid would a Chaotic Evil Funky be? Who wants a villian outdancin' the good guys?

[UnChosenOne]

Lawful Evil Square Archon dragon? So stupid idea that it isn't even funny.

[Ascension]

Clearly the worst possible option here would be Chaotic Neutral Funky. The funk. The chaos. Completely unbounded by morality. That would be an abomination.

[Eldan]

Sure. As if I would ever vote for something stupid like Lawful Neutral Funky.

[Mercenary Pen]

Whatever you do, do not go for anything as inherently contradictory as Lawful Good Funky. That would just be too ridiculous...

[Debihuman]

I definitely wouldn't want to see Chaotic Good Funky.

[pyrefiend]

Please don't make this abomination Lawful Evil Square. I'm begging you here!

[Eloel]

I would hate it if the monster was totally neutral on all axis... It better be Lawful Good Funky before anyone gets angry.

[TheCheshireHat]

Lawful Neutral Funky makes no sense whatsoever, just like everything else we haven´t voted for so far.

[paddyfool]

I passionately refuse to vote for Chaotic Neutral Funky.

[Glooble Glistencrist]

I'm not entirely certain about this thread, but I think the only thing more distasteful than an Incorporeal Goblinoid Archon Dragon would be a Funky Lawful Good Incorporeal Goblinoid Archon Dragon.

[vegetalss4]

we are allowed to vote for 3 things without restrictions. oh no, OH NO. You are NOT making this monster Lawful, Chaotic And Neutral on that axis no matter what! DO you understand! show some basic respect for the rules

[Efil]

I would never vote for Lawful Neutral Funky. The mere idea would be abhorrent.

[Kellus]

The votes are in, promptly ignored, and forgotten! The alignment loser is Lawful Neutral Funky!

The next nonvote is for both size AND Challenge Rating, simply because this is the juncture where you people get to not vote on whether it's a true dragon or not, meaning that it would have special rules for size and CR. If you don't want a true dragon, just don't vote for true dragon for both categories.

[Glooble Glistencrist]

You know what would suck? If you somehow found a way to make this monstrosity Tiny, but still a really high CR, like in the 16 - 20 range. That would pretty much be the worst monster ever.

[puppyavenger]

I would hate for it to be a true dragon so I'm pleading with you to not make it a True dragon

[Mercenary Pen]

I'd hate a Collossal+ CR31+ monster... I want a true dragon

[Eldan]

If it's already Angelic and Goblinoid, how could it be a True Dragon?

[Owrtho]

I'd hate to see something thats a true dragon(cr) and colossal++. I mean, how would that even work?

Owrtho

[Ascension]

I hate the thought of a Goblinoid True Dragon!

[Mewtarthio]

Why do you even include the option for True Dragon? Nobody's gonna vote for it! 'Specially not me!

[Mortimer]

True dragon would mean a wide variety of sizes and CRs. And seriously, who would want to fight the same monster again and again? Besides, you're probably way too lazy to make a true dragon, it would require way too much work from you, so I'm confident it'll never happen. Therefore I can freely express my hatred and despise for the true dragon idea, since your laziness will overcome your spite.

PS. Don't make it a true dragon.

[Limos]

Making it a true dragon is a horrible idea. Who would ever vote for that?

[pyrefiend]

You know what would suck? If you somehow found a way to make this monstrosity Tiny, but still a really high CR, like in the 16 - 20 range. That would pretty much be the worst monster ever.
QFT! I don't know what I would do if Kellus did something that stupid.

[DracoDei]

So it turns out that nobody in their right mind wants a dragon monster. Sucks to be you guys, 'cause that's what I'm making! A true dragon, in fact! The single most complicated and convoluted kind of monster in all of 3.5! How do you like THEM apples?

I see you are waivering in this dread intent, and am heartened by that... Dragons are bad enough, but your original intent to do a True Dragon was enough to make me want to lose my breakfast.

[Kellus]

Yes, originally I planned to do a true dragon, but I figured I shuld give you guys a choice since that wouldn't give you a chance to pick CR or size. So I'm just doing both in one round.

[Juhn]

There's no possible way that a creature with these terrible attributes is anything like a True Dragon. The very suggestion that it could be offends me to the core.

[littlechicory]

WHATEVER IT IS, I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT.

so there nyeh~

[DragonTounge]

The only thing you could possibly do to make me despise you is make a colossal++ dragon CR 1-5! Oh the inhumanity!

[Reath]

Oh, how -horrid- would a Colossal ++ dragon be? It would take up all of my action figure collection space!

[UnChosenOne]

The True Dragon. What ******* point there is to anyone to vote true dragon. And why in the hell anyvody would vote it twice. So that ******** True Dragon gona not get my votes.

[Debihuman]

Definitely not voting for True Dragon.

Debby

[Lappy9000]

Other sizes are excellent, but True Dragons are seriously a dime a dozen. Every monster manual seems to pump out a new set! In addition to the chromatic and metallic dragons from the Core Monster Manual, Monster Manual VII gave us the oxidized dragons, while Monster Manual XIV showed us the often bland wrath of the monochrome dragons. Don't even get me started on the diatonic dragons and the spacial dragons from Musicscape and the Planar Mathematics Handbook.

The point I'm getting at, is that there are far too many true dragons, and we certainly don't need more!

[Eloel]

I would HATE to see a Colossal++ monster with a CR low as 1-5. It would probably be dumb as a table. But a True Dragon? That would be cool.

[DracoDei]

I despise this thread and would never bump it... it might get more votes that way, and I certainly don't want that.

[rty275@comcast.]

No one likes weak monsters so cr 1-5 is out...

[Limos]

When does this voting end? This thread hasn't been up for a long time.

[Alteran]

A tiny monster with a CR of 11-15 would be so stupid. Who would like that? Not I.

However, a gargantuan true dragon would be awesome!

[vegetalss4]

im begging on my knees, not a true dragon please