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Kellus
2008-11-29, 11:10 AM
Don't Vote Up a Monster

These days it's pretty easy to get delusions of grandeur and feelings of empowerment. You might think you're "making a difference" with your votes in the many, many (MANY) vote up a thingy threads. Well, I'm here to cure those problems. Welcome to Don't Vote Up a Monster, where your votes count for absolutely NOTHING.

So the last DVUaM went pretty well. It ended up with a monster that pretty much all of you loathed entirely. It was indeed pretty dumb in every way. So now, I'm doing it again. Surely this "vote" will also end with a completely stupid monster that nobody will ever want to use.

Current nonvote is for both size and CR. Please don't vote for only one aspect from each. If you don't vote true dragon from one, please don't vote true dragon from the other as well, since they have their own rules for size and CR.

Type Loser – DRAGON


{table=head]Type|Votes
Aberration|0
Animal|2
Construct|2
Dragon|-6
Elemental|2
Fey|-1
Giant|2
Humanoid|2
Magical Beast|1
Monstrous Humanoid|0
Ooze|0
Outsider|1
Plant|-4
Undead|1
Vermin|1
[/table]

Subtype Losers – ARCHON, GOBLINOID, INCORPOREAL


{table=head]
Subtype|Votes
Air|1
Angel|-3
Aquatic|1
Archon|-4
Augmented|-2
Chaotic|1
Cold|0
Earth|1
Evil|1
Extraplanar|-1
Fire|0
Goblinoid|-5
Good|1
Incorporeal|-5
Lawful|-2
Native|1
Reptilian|-2
Shapechanger|-1
Water|0
Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway?|-3
NONE|0[/table]

Alignment Loser – LAWFUL NEUTRAL FUNKY


{table=head]
Alignment Aspect|Votes
Lawful|-12
Neutral (L-C)|-6
Chaotic|-5
Good|-3
Neutral (G-E)|-9
Evil|-6
Funky|-13
Neutral (F-S)|-1
Square|-6[/table]

Current Nonvote: SIZE AND CR


{table=head]
Size|Votes
Fine|0
Diminutive|0
Tiny|0
Small|0
Medium|0
Large|0
Huge|0
Gargantuan|0
Colossal|0
Colossal+|0
Colossal++|0
True Dragon|0[/table]

{table=head]CR Bracket|Votes
1-5|0
6-10|0
11-15|0
16-20|0
21-25|0
26-30|0
31+|0
True Dragon|0[/table]

afroakuma
2008-11-29, 11:16 AM
Well, since I find this whole idea quite absurd, I'm not even going to consider voting Dragon.

puppyavenger
2008-11-29, 11:28 AM
Well, since I find this whole idea quite absurd, I'm not even going to consider voting Dragon.

agreed, dragons get far far too much screentiem these days

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-29, 11:33 AM
A Dragon?, you've got to be kidding me. I anti-vote Dragon, and then I vote for Fey. Wouldn't a Fey be cool guys?

Eldan
2008-11-29, 11:41 AM
Who needs more Fey.

Debihuman
2008-11-29, 11:43 AM
I am not voting for Dragon.

Debby

Zocelot
2008-11-29, 12:01 PM
Oozes are disgusting creatures, and impossible to use. I would hate it if that ended up being the creatures type.

Samurai Jill
2008-11-29, 12:07 PM
Wait- logically speaking, isn't everyone who fails to post in this thread failing to vote for all options simultaneously?

Zeta Kai
2008-11-29, 12:23 PM
Anyone who posts in this thread has lost already.

Also, Dragons are stupid.

Moff Chumley
2008-11-29, 12:28 PM
I refuse to vote for fey. I would like a Dragon, though.

UnChosenOne
2008-11-29, 12:29 PM
Dragons don't get my votes a) they are lame and b) suck.

Szilard
2008-11-29, 12:30 PM
ooze for the lose!

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-29, 12:37 PM
Anyone who posts in this thread has lost already.


Might you mean that we have all lost...

THE GAME?

(If not, then you just lost it anyways :smallbiggrin:)

Raroy
2008-11-29, 12:41 PM
I am so not voting for plants. I don't have a flower obsession you know.

LordZarth
2008-11-29, 01:05 PM
I would never vote for Monstrous Humanoid

pyrefiend
2008-11-29, 03:03 PM
A plant monster? I can't imagine why anyone would vote for such a thing...

Reath
2008-11-29, 03:06 PM
GAWD!

I lost the

GAME

And I would completly be horrified if it was a Plant.

Eighth_Seraph
2008-11-29, 03:25 PM
You know what monsters are underused and have nearly no variation? Dragons. Therefore, I'll vote for Dragon, but I find Magical Beasts so overdone and bland that I'll do everything possible to make sure that one never sees the light of day.

Maroon
2008-11-29, 03:26 PM
Nobody in my entire extended family would ever vote for Monstrous Humanoid.

Vagnarok
2008-11-29, 03:38 PM
Well I don't vote Undead.

Owrtho
2008-11-29, 03:48 PM
I'd never vote for an Aberration, so I'll just vote for everything else.

Owrtho

Eloel
2008-11-29, 03:58 PM
Ok this just is enough, Feys? Can't you be original, I'd never vote for that.

Ascension
2008-11-29, 04:08 PM
I have no idea why anyone is suggesting a plantlike abomination!

Moral Wiz
2008-11-29, 04:14 PM
I refuse utterly to vote for any Fey. I cast my vote for Dragon.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-29, 04:24 PM
Dragons are stupid. It's impossible for anyone, especially Kellus, to make a dragon that's actually unique.

vegetalss4
2008-11-29, 04:30 PM
i totally agree Dragons are the worst i vote against them, however i do not care whatever else it becomes so i cast a vote for everything else

TheCheshireHat
2008-11-29, 05:29 PM
Indeed, Dragons are so overdone and cliché that no one in their right minds would vote for them.

The Glyphstone
2008-11-29, 05:39 PM
I'll vote for Dragon, and anti-vote against Plant.

DracoDei
2008-11-30, 12:49 PM
Well, someone is probably going to try to convince you I am voting for Dragon. This will be a base libel and should be ignored utterly. It should not be plain to anyone looking at my nick that that isn't something I would ever even consider doing. Do not allow yourself to be deceived in this matter.

Neithan
2008-11-30, 01:48 PM
I really have to say, I don't get it what we're really supposed to do here.

I mean: I completely understand what's going on here. This is not overly twisted at all. Nobody could ever get confused by this.

Alteran
2008-11-30, 02:20 PM
Outsiders are stupid, and I hope they don't win.

Mercenary Pen
2008-11-30, 03:53 PM
I refuse to vote for vermin- ever- in my entire life.

Mortimer
2008-12-02, 03:29 PM
Dragons are really cool and we need more of them, unlike those stupid constructs. There are already far too many of them. Please don't bother making another one.

Lappy9000
2008-12-02, 03:32 PM
I displayed my hatred of Dragon types before in the last thread of this ridiculous game, and I once again shall refrain for voting for them.

It should also be noted that the last Don't Vote Up a Monster was a complete disaster and I am ashamed at myself for taking part and even more so at Kellus for bringing up this stupid debacle once again!

MammonAzrael
2008-12-02, 03:37 PM
I don't like Plants. Plants are dumb.

TheCheshireHat
2008-12-02, 05:00 PM
I mean: I completely understand what's going on here. This is not overly twisted at all. Nobody could ever get confused by this.

Wrong! You obviously have absolutely no grasp on what is going on here! :smallbiggrin:

Also, when aren´t we going to not start unvoting for whatever is not next?

At this rate I´m going to end up smothered under huge pile of negatives. I mean, not start down supported by a small hole of positives... My brain hurts

Enlong
2008-12-02, 05:03 PM
Okay, I won't vote then.

seriously, I'm not voting. And none of those non-votes either.

Okay, Okay. You got me... I'll...

NOT vote! Ha! You really thought you had me, didn't you?

thegurullamen
2008-12-02, 05:42 PM
Dude: Who here votes for Dragons? No one? Sit down, anti-man!

Anti-man: No! Anti-man will no longer be silenced! Dragons, I say!

Dude: Like, whatevs.

Kellus
2008-12-03, 01:18 AM
So it turns out that nobody in their right mind wants a dragon monster. Sucks to be you guys, 'cause that's what I'm making! A true dragon, in fact! The single most complicated and convoluted kind of monster in all of 3.5! How do you like THEM apples?

The next nonvote is on subtypes. Please don't not vote for more than two of them. But whatever.

Raroy
2008-12-03, 01:20 AM
An Archon would be stupid dumb.

(Why did you guys non-vote for dragons? It's unoriginal and plant monsters are original.....kinda.)

Mewtarthio
2008-12-03, 01:21 AM
Incorporeal dragons? Dragons are big, scary monsters! They shouldn't be incorporeal! The only thing more idiotic than that would be the Archon subtype!

starwoof
2008-12-03, 01:22 AM
EDIT: durr I cant read.

Lord_Gareth
2008-12-03, 01:24 AM
Fae is not a subtype. You can't even refuse to vote for it.

But I will die before I see an [b]Incorporeal Archon[b] as a dragon. DIE, I SAY!

starwoof
2008-12-03, 01:25 AM
Whoops, I forgot to throw an augmented in there.:smallredface: I dont vote for that then. I meant augmented fae.

Mercenary Pen
2008-12-03, 01:37 AM
Ah well, dragons may be nice compared with vermin, but incorporeal shapeshifter is the worst approach that could ever be taken.

Ascension
2008-12-03, 01:38 AM
I can hardly fathom anything more idiotic than a goblinoid dragon. I mean, it's a complete contradiction! How can something be a goblin and a dragon? It just can't happen!

Owrtho
2008-12-03, 01:51 AM
I'd never vot for Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway? or Augmented subtypes, but I will vote for everything else.

Owrtho

UnChosenOne
2008-12-03, 05:40 AM
I won't never ever anyway vote Reptilian and Incorporeal. But i will vote everything else.

paddyfool
2008-12-03, 06:51 AM
No chance whatsoever of a vote for Extraplanar shapechanger

Eighth_Seraph
2008-12-03, 04:04 PM
While I shudder at the thought of yet another dragon entering the ranks of creation (no, really, I do) I would be especially repulsed by something as overdone as an Incorporeal dragon. Or one that also happens to be an Archon. It's overdone. It's trite. I expect better than that sort of tripe from you, Kellus.

Alteran
2008-12-04, 12:05 AM
There's no way I would ever vote for extraplanar and lawful.

mikeejimbo
2008-12-04, 12:12 AM
Totally not voting for Angel. Angel Dragon? That's dumb.

PairO'Dice Lost
2008-12-04, 12:20 AM
Given my rather...diabolical tendencies, I would normally be inclined to vote Law and Evil. Thus, I absolutely refuse to unvote for Law and Water.

Limos
2008-12-04, 12:36 AM
I don't vote for Goblinoid.

That would just be silly.

vegetalss4
2008-12-04, 12:23 PM
i will vote ageints goblinoid and archon subtybe just one of them is a contradiction, both woulæd just be stupid

Debihuman
2008-12-04, 12:30 PM
I am not voting for Angel.

Debby
Whoever heard of an angelic dragon?????

Zeta Kai
2008-12-04, 12:50 PM
I would never vote for Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway?. That's not even a proper subtype.

pyrefiend
2008-12-04, 03:54 PM
A lawful, goblinoid dragon? I shudder to think of the frame of mind one must be in to even consider voting for both of those. Lawful, maybe. But goblinoid? That's just stupid.

Eldan
2008-12-04, 04:07 PM
There's some really stupid combinations of subtypes out there... like Cold, Fire. That just makes no sense.

Lord_Gareth
2008-12-04, 08:15 PM
OOC
Wow, Zeta was right. This is the most sick, twisted, cruel voting the community could have ever possibly devised. Wow.

TheCheshireHat
2008-12-04, 10:34 PM
A Angelic Goblinoid Dragon would be the stupidest thing ever created by man, and thus I am most decidedly not voting for that.

Juhn
2008-12-05, 12:41 PM
"Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway?" What kind of an option is that? Whatever it is, I most certainly am not voting for it.

Also, Reptilian dragons are so passé. I would never deign to give my vote to one of those.

Ascension
2008-12-05, 12:53 PM
Here's the score so far, assuming Owrtho's vote for (almost) everything doesn't count (unlike in the first contest).


{table=head]
Subtype|Votes
Air|0
Angel|-3
Aquatic|0
Archon|-5
Augmented|-2
Chaotic|0
Cold|-1
Earth|0
Evil|0
Extraplanar|-2
Fire|-1
Goblinoid|-5
Good|0
Incorporeal|-5
Lawful|-3
Native|0
Reptilian|-2
Shapechanger|-2
Water|-1
Why do I bother putting up this table when I only update it at the end, anyway?|-3
NONE|0[/table]

So it looks like we'd absolutely loathe an Incorporeal Goblinoid Archon Dragon.

DracoDei
2008-12-05, 01:28 PM
Reptilian would be totally redundant with Dragon, so I have to vote against that... also I have to agree with others who have spoken out against Goblinoid I mean, I know you are terrible at homebrewing, but attempting that should bring out a new low, even for you...

Thunderbuckets
2008-12-05, 06:26 PM
I have no desire whatsoever to see an Incorporeal dragon, but I think it must be said how much I would hate an Angelic dragon, so whatever you do, don't make one of those. I'm warning you all!

Kellus
2008-12-05, 07:42 PM
The nonvotes are in, and the monster that you slimeballs would absolutely hate to see is apparently a Dragon (Archon, Goblinoid, Incorporeal). And so it shall be!

Next nonvote is for alignment aspects. Please don't not vote for more than three of them, preferably on different axes. But, well, whatever. It's not like your votes mean anything anyway.

puppyavenger
2008-12-05, 08:03 PM
funky, chaotic, and neutral

Owrtho
2008-12-05, 08:08 PM
I'd hate to see a true funky (neutral neutral funky), So my votes go to all others.

Owrtho

PairO'Dice Lost
2008-12-05, 08:17 PM
I'd vote for absolutely anything but Lawful Evil Funky.

DracoDei
2008-12-05, 08:41 PM
On the theory that villians should always be cooler than the PCs I beg you not to make this thing Square.

Also, flexiability just makes a villian to hard to run, and adds no interest what-so-ever to it from the players perspective, so it really shouldn't be Neutral on the Law/Chaos axis, and besides which, we usually go for the corners I think, and why mess with success?

And Evil Villians are totally overdone and worn out... please avoid that.

Limos
2008-12-05, 09:34 PM
I would vote for anything excpet Lawful Evil Funky. That would be a travesty.

MammonAzrael
2008-12-05, 10:07 PM
I hate Lawful Good Squares! But triangles are ok.

Raroy
2008-12-05, 11:05 PM
Funky neutral? What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything to me!

Alteran
2008-12-05, 11:25 PM
True Funky is a ridiculous idea. Who would ever want that?

Mewtarthio
2008-12-05, 11:50 PM
It's a pretty crazy-sounding beast, so it has to be Funky. There's no way you could ever pull off a Square Incorporeal Goblinoid Archon Dragon.

Also, the Archon subtype means it's automatically CG. If you make it Lawful Evil, I will lose all respect for you as a homebrewer.

LordZarth
2008-12-06, 01:03 AM
Ooh, a vote for Chaotic, Evil, and Funky here.

And I'd never in my life think of voting for a Lawful Neutral Square monster. Wow, that would be stupid.

Reath
2008-12-06, 01:07 AM
Ugh, how horrid would a Chaotic Evil Funky be? Who wants a villian outdancin' the good guys?

UnChosenOne
2008-12-06, 02:50 AM
Lawful Evil Square Archon dragon? So stupid idea that it isn't even funny.

Ascension
2008-12-06, 03:51 AM
Clearly the worst possible option here would be Chaotic Neutral Funky. The funk. The chaos. Completely unbounded by morality. That would be an abomination.

Eldan
2008-12-06, 06:23 AM
Sure. As if I would ever vote for something stupid like Lawful Neutral Funky.

Mercenary Pen
2008-12-06, 07:34 AM
Whatever you do, do not go for anything as inherently contradictory as Lawful Good Funky. That would just be too ridiculous...

Debihuman
2008-12-06, 08:25 AM
I definitely wouldn't want to see Chaotic Good Funky.

pyrefiend
2008-12-06, 11:36 AM
Please don't make this abomination Lawful Evil Square. I'm begging you here!

Eloel
2008-12-06, 11:45 AM
I would hate it if the monster was totally neutral on all axis... It better be Lawful Good Funky before anyone gets angry.

TheCheshireHat
2008-12-06, 05:35 PM
Lawful Neutral Funky makes no sense whatsoever, just like everything else we haven´t voted for so far.

paddyfool
2008-12-06, 05:42 PM
I passionately refuse to vote for Chaotic Neutral Funky.

Glooble Glistencrist
2008-12-06, 05:49 PM
I'm not entirely certain about this thread, but I think the only thing more distasteful than an Incorporeal Goblinoid Archon Dragon would be a Funky Lawful Good Incorporeal Goblinoid Archon Dragon.

vegetalss4
2008-12-07, 07:24 AM
we are allowed to vote for 3 things without restrictions. oh no, OH NO. You are NOT making this monster Lawful, Chaotic And Neutral on that axis no matter what! DO you understand! show some basic respect for the rules

Efil
2008-12-07, 07:48 AM
I would never vote for Lawful Neutral Funky. The mere idea would be abhorrent.

Kellus
2008-12-10, 12:06 PM
The votes are in, promptly ignored, and forgotten! The alignment loser is Lawful Neutral Funky!

The next nonvote is for both size AND Challenge Rating, simply because this is the juncture where you people get to not vote on whether it's a true dragon or not, meaning that it would have special rules for size and CR. If you don't want a true dragon, just don't vote for true dragon for both categories.

Glooble Glistencrist
2008-12-10, 12:13 PM
You know what would suck? If you somehow found a way to make this monstrosity Tiny, but still a really high CR, like in the 16 - 20 range. That would pretty much be the worst monster ever.

puppyavenger
2008-12-10, 12:15 PM
I would hate for it to be a true dragon so I'm pleading with you to not make it a True dragon

Mercenary Pen
2008-12-10, 12:21 PM
I'd hate a Collossal+ CR31+ monster... I want a true dragon

Eldan
2008-12-10, 12:26 PM
If it's already Angelic and Goblinoid, how could it be a True Dragon?

Owrtho
2008-12-10, 01:02 PM
I'd hate to see something thats a true dragon(cr) and colossal++. I mean, how would that even work?

Owrtho

Ascension
2008-12-10, 02:09 PM
I hate the thought of a Goblinoid True Dragon!

Mewtarthio
2008-12-10, 02:18 PM
Why do you even include the option for True Dragon? Nobody's gonna vote for it! 'Specially not me!

Mortimer
2008-12-10, 02:21 PM
True dragon would mean a wide variety of sizes and CRs. And seriously, who would want to fight the same monster again and again? Besides, you're probably way too lazy to make a true dragon, it would require way too much work from you, so I'm confident it'll never happen. Therefore I can freely express my hatred and despise for the true dragon idea, since your laziness will overcome your spite.

PS. Don't make it a true dragon.

Limos
2008-12-10, 02:48 PM
Making it a true dragon is a horrible idea. Who would ever vote for that?

pyrefiend
2008-12-10, 03:06 PM
You know what would suck? If you somehow found a way to make this monstrosity Tiny, but still a really high CR, like in the 16 - 20 range. That would pretty much be the worst monster ever.
QFT! I don't know what I would do if Kellus did something that stupid.

DracoDei
2008-12-10, 03:48 PM
So it turns out that nobody in their right mind wants a dragon monster. Sucks to be you guys, 'cause that's what I'm making! A true dragon, in fact! The single most complicated and convoluted kind of monster in all of 3.5! How do you like THEM apples?

I see you are waivering in this dread intent, and am heartened by that... Dragons are bad enough, but your original intent to do a True Dragon was enough to make me want to lose my breakfast.

Kellus
2008-12-10, 04:25 PM
Yes, originally I planned to do a true dragon, but I figured I shuld give you guys a choice since that wouldn't give you a chance to pick CR or size. So I'm just doing both in one round.

Juhn
2008-12-10, 04:30 PM
There's no possible way that a creature with these terrible attributes is anything like a True Dragon. The very suggestion that it could be offends me to the core.

littlechicory
2008-12-10, 05:04 PM
WHATEVER IT IS, I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT.

so there nyeh~

DragonTounge
2008-12-10, 09:58 PM
The only thing you could possibly do to make me despise you is make a colossal++ dragon CR 1-5! Oh the inhumanity!

Reath
2008-12-10, 10:37 PM
Oh, how -horrid- would a Colossal ++ dragon be? It would take up all of my action figure collection space!

UnChosenOne
2008-12-11, 12:12 AM
The True Dragon. What ******* point there is to anyone to vote true dragon. And why in the hell anyvody would vote it twice. So that ******** True Dragon gona not get my votes.

Debihuman
2008-12-12, 01:31 PM
Definitely not voting for True Dragon.

Debby

Lappy9000
2008-12-12, 01:51 PM
Other sizes are excellent, but True Dragons are seriously a dime a dozen. Every monster manual seems to pump out a new set! In addition to the chromatic and metallic dragons from the Core Monster Manual, Monster Manual VII gave us the oxidized dragons, while Monster Manual XIV showed us the often bland wrath of the monochrome dragons. Don't even get me started on the diatonic dragons and the spacial dragons from Musicscape and the Planar Mathematics Handbook.

The point I'm getting at, is that there are far too many true dragons, and we certainly don't need more!

Eloel
2008-12-12, 05:32 PM
I would HATE to see a Colossal++ monster with a CR low as 1-5. It would probably be dumb as a table. But a True Dragon? That would be cool.

DracoDei
2008-12-14, 03:21 PM
I despise this thread and would never bump it... it might get more votes that way, and I certainly don't want that.

2008-12-29, 11:00 PM
No one likes weak monsters so cr 1-5 is out...

Limos
2008-12-30, 12:13 AM
When does this voting end? This thread hasn't been up for a long time.

Alteran
2008-12-30, 12:35 AM
A tiny monster with a CR of 11-15 would be so stupid. Who would like that? Not I.

However, a gargantuan true dragon would be awesome!

vegetalss4
2008-12-30, 06:51 AM
im begging on my knees, not a true dragon please