View Full Version : [3.5] How to stat Archomentals? How do they compare to gods? Do they give domains?

2008-12-15, 11:14 PM
I am trying to stat up Queen Frostine, Princess Lolly, Lord Licorice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_land#Candy_Land_characters), and maybe King Kandy as Archomentals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archomental) for my Elemental Plane of Candy (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97038) (aka "Candy Land"). However, I am having a hard time finding out information on Archomentals, since they seem to have mostly been something from olderer editions.

Can some of the older players, or anyone with some experience concerning the Archomentals, please tell me how they compared to gods in D&D? Were they weaker, or stronger because they ruled over entire Inner Planes/entire elements? Would they give domains in 3.5 rules (In my cosmology divine casters need a god, and must take the domains of said god)? Would/should I stat them out just like gods, or how should an archomental be stated?

I have done a little research on the Dark Sun setting (thanks to recent advice from the members here), and I came across some mentions of priests/clerics who gained their power from "powerful" elementals after risking their lives at the hands of said elements in the hopes of the elementals saving them. Are these elementals those elemental clerics (I believe that was the term) gain their power from the archomentals? If so, would it then be possible to port over these crazy clerics to my homebrewed Material Plane and the rest of my cosmology, since the archomentals are going to be a known power?

As always, thank you in advance for any help!

2008-12-16, 12:57 AM
This is a guess on my part, but might they be anything like the primal elementals (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/monsters/elementalPrimal.htm)?

2008-12-16, 05:45 AM
Archomentals. Are those the guys who were synonymous with the Princes of Elemental Good/Evil?

*thinks back to Dark Sun and Planescape's "Guide to the Inner Planes"*

IIRC the Archomentals were little short of Powers on their home plane. Speaking personally I'd stat them as Epic elementals (use Elder, Monolith or Primal as a base as preferred) with a bundle of appropriate class levels and some Divine Rank (0-5, depending on strength of cheese required). YMMV.

Exactly how these guys relate to the Sultans of the Genies (are they the same thing? are they allies? rivals? sworn enemies? is one faction subservient to the other?) is another matter entirely...

2008-12-16, 06:05 AM
One issue of Dragon (which I am in possession of) holds the (3.5e) stats for the Archomentals (if by that you mean Imix (Sp?), Ogremoch, Olhydra, Yan C'Bin (Sp?), and Cryonax).