For all you IE users out there

[Charity]

You might want to swap to Mozzilla, just for a while

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7784908.stm

Just a public service announcement...
When is my PSO up for review RSJ?

I knew yesterday (sorry) I'm suprised none of you puter afficinados has brought this up...
None of you use IE do you..

[Tormsskull]

I heard about this yesterday on CNN and switched just this morning.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Hmm, I've switched to IE for a little bit since Firefox has been a bit slow today.

*switches back to Firefox*

[Jack Squat]

I use Chrome...like it a lot better (visually) than Firefox.

Should I still change? :smalltongue:

[Khanderas]

my post would just be


Topic: For all you IE users out there ...
Post: ... do the right thing and use Firefox instead



And now another security reason for it. I was unaware of that, but hey, I am a solid FF advocate and user. No mercy for IE.

[Charity]

|Jack| Yes :smalltongue:

[Penguinsushi]

Yeah, I work for a web design company and my boss forwarded this to everyone this morning and told us to stop using/testing IE until further notice.

I only ever used IE (for testing) in a quarantined environment anyway (inside a VM on my mac) and I never do anything important with it. Guess I don't need to mess with it for a while.

I feel like I should be saying "I told you so" or something...

~PS

[Jack Squat]

my post would just be


Topic: For all you IE users out there ...
Post: ... do the right thing and use Firefox instead



And now another security reason for it. I was unaware of that, but hey, I am a solid FF advocate and user. No mercy for IE.

relevant XKCD comic (http://xkcd.com/198/)

[B-Man]

This is just too funny, to be honest. I've switched to Fx completely upon the release of IE 7 in 2006 'cause the fonts were blurry (the ClearType thing-a-ma-jiggy messes with my eyes). I've known that there are several flaws in the IE 7 design so I really don't foresee myself switching back any time soon.

[Checkmate]

I use Opera, used Chrome for a while, but switched to Opera for its speed dial.

[Raiser Blade]

"I cannot recommend people switch due to this one flaw," said John Curran, head of Microsoft UK's Windows group.


:smallsigh:

[RightHandless]

I like Chrome, and would use it as my default browser were it not for the fact that neither it nor Firefox will correctly display the Giant in the Playground web page.

For example, having now downloaded and reinstalled Chrome, (Internet Explorer's security flaw sounding fairly dramatic,) this page displays incorrectly; the banner at the head of the page is darker than it aught to be except for a clearly defined box around the most prominent, encircled footprint logo. The headings at the left of the screen are pixelated, showing an almost camouflage pattern of dark beige and pale green atop the usual pale beige. Worst of all, the comics themselves do not display properly, comic six one six showing with severely muted colours and strewn over with small pixel like brown squares.

Obviously, I am not enamoured of using a browser that displays webpages so poorly, where Internet Explorer will display them perfectly.

Does anyone else have such problems? Is there a way that this problem can be solved?

[Checkmate]

I like Chrome, and would use it as my default browser were it not for the fact that neither it nor Firefox will correctly display the Giant in the Playground web page.

For example, having now downloaded and reinstalled Chrome, (Internet Explorer's security flaw sounding fairly dramatic,) this page displays incorrectly; the banner at the head of the page is darker than it aught to be except for a clearly defined box around the most prominent, encircled footprint logo. The headings at the left of the screen are pixelated, showing an almost camouflage pattern of dark beige and pale green atop the usual pale beige. Worst of all, the comics themselves do not display properly, comic six one six showing with severely muted colours and strewn over with small pixel like brown squares.

Obviously, I am not enamoured of using a browser that displays webpages so poorly, where Internet Explorer will display them perfectly.

Does anyone else have such problems? Is there a way that this problem can be solved?

I just checked the Giantitp forum on firefox, opera, IE and Google Chrome and at least on my computer I can't see any difference in display. They all work fine. Although I can't seem to get flash to work on Firefox, but that is a different problem altogether.

[Oregano]

I'm downloading Firefox now, I've been thinking of trying it out for a while anyway.

[Checkmate]

I've never understood why people like firefox that much, it seems only because it is open source. I've found browsers such as IE, Opera and even Chrome to be much more user-friendly. Could someone explain Firefox's appeal to me?

[Oregano]

I've never understood why people like firefox that much, it seems only because it is open source. I've found browsers such as IE, Opera and even Chrome to be much more user-friendly. Could someone explain Firefox's appeal to me?

Well I'm using this now as my browser and I have to say it's pretty good, intuitive and everything, but flash player has dissappeared apparently, it seems pretty similar to IE, looks fairly good as well.


EDIT: Although some pictures look all jaggedy now.

[RTGoodman]

I just checked the Giantitp forum on firefox, opera, IE and Google Chrome and at least on my computer I can't see any difference in display. They all work fine. Although I can't seem to get flash to work on Firefox, but that is a different problem altogether.

You just need to download the plug-in. I think you should be able to find it via Google just by searching for "Shockwave Flash plug-in" or something.


I've never understood why people like firefox that much, it seems only because it is open source. I've found browsers such as IE, Opera and even Chrome to be much more user-friendly. Could someone explain Firefox's appeal to me?

I can't explain it, but just switch to it for a while and you'll probably see. I mean, I don't know what I did with my life before tabbed browsing, AdBlock Plus, and all my other Add-Ons (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox) and fancy tools. Once you download it, just make sure you get all the plug-ins you need (Java, Acrobat Reader, Flash, etc.) and you should be set.

Also, when something goes wrong and it shuts down, Firefox restores everything for you. That's awesome.

If you really need to know some solid benefits, just Google "Benefits of Firefox" - there're quite a few results, so just take some time to read through 'em. Or read what Mozilla itself (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/firefox/) has to say.

[B-Man]

I've never understood why people like firefox that much, it seems only because it is open source. I've found browsers such as IE, Opera and even Chrome to be much more user-friendly. Could someone explain Firefox's appeal to me?

Well, at least for me it's the the ease of customisation that gives Firefox the edge over other browsers. My general dislike of IE 7 comes from the ClearType fonts it uses by default. They make the screen and fonts appear very blurry for me.

I also like the live bookmark feature of Fx where you can have drop-down RSS feeds.

RightHandless: Could you printscreen the two pages rendering the comic? I've been looking the comic in IE 7, Fx 3, and Chrome and I'm noticing zero difference.

[Kaelaroth]

Thanks for letting me know, I've just downloaded Safari, and it seems to work fine...
... though how do I change my homepage on it? :smallconfused:

[valadil]

I've never understood why people like firefox that much, it seems only because it is open source. I've found browsers such as IE, Opera and even Chrome to be much more user-friendly. Could someone explain Firefox's appeal to me?

I liked IE way back in the day when navigator 4 was the only other option. I switched to firefox when it was the first browser to have tabs.

I can't speak to chrome as I haven't used it for any serious amount of time, but I find opera difficult. I know that opera has features ready a couple release cycles ahead of firefox, but firefox's implementation always feels more polished to me. I use both on my work machine and opera just hasn't had any killer features that make me want to take it over firefox. I imagine that if I tried it first and got used to it first I wouldn't see any reason to switch to firefox either.

IE is a joke. Its speed is poor and it draws web pages wrong. As a web developer, at least 70% of my time goes into fixing things for IE. I develop in firefox, test in opera, chrome, and safari, usually with no discrepencies, and then move on to IE. I don't bother with it for personal projects anymore, but my boss uses IE so I can't even question neglecting it at work.

[Oregano]

Firefox looks a lot more defined, I mean the borders around everything. It also let me import my favourites and everything, it is very good. My maths tutor uses it, he always has like 5 Firefox windows open, I was wondering what it was all about.

[Dallas-Dakota]

I've never understood why people like firefox that much, it seems only because it is open source. I've found browsers such as IE, Opera and even Chrome to be much more user-friendly. Could someone explain Firefox's appeal to me?
Because it's pretty clear and lets me do want I want to do with it.
So if I feel like spanking my browser for not giving me enough cookies, I can do it.


The truth is that Firefox is just addictive...

[Mando Knight]

Could someone explain Firefox's appeal to me?

I do believe it was the first open-source browser to support tabbed browsing... and did so for 5 years before IE caught on to the idea.

The predecessors to Firefox's tabbed browsing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabbed_browsing) were Opera in 2000 and an IE shell in 1998 (both closed source), and Amiga's proprietary IBrowse. Of the three predecessors, only Opera has been updated since 2007.

Plus, since it's open source, the browser is more easily modified by add-ons and such, to improve the user interface even more.

Also, tabbed browsing is insanely awesome.

[Athaniar]

Bah, there are always viruses. I'll keep IE as my one and only internet browser, thank you. Besides, if it is that serious, then Microsoft will release a patch before long.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Bah, there are always viruses. I'll keep IE as my one and only internet browser, thank you.
Fool of a Took Xavius.
But it's your own oppnion I guess.....Somebody mind-controll him please...

[RightHandless]

RightHandless: Could you printscreen the two pages rendering the comic? I've been looking the comic in IE 7, Fx 3, and Chrome and I'm noticing zero difference.

Certainly, thank you for your help.

Internet Explorer:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/RightHandless/InternetExplorerScreenshot.jpg

Chrome:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/RightHandless/ChromeScreenshot.jpg

The pictures have been reduced in size by Photobucket, but you can clearly see the contrast in quality between the two.

[Checkmate]

Certainly, thank you for your help.

Internet Explorer:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/RightHandless/InternetExplorerScreenshot.jpg

Chrome:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/RightHandless/ChromeScreenshot.jpg

The pictures have been reduced in size by Photobucket, but you can clearly see the contrast in quality between the two.

Wow, that is serious. Chrome doesn't do that with me, I wonder how that is possible...

[valadil]

Bah, there are always viruses. I'll keep IE as my one and only internet browser, thank you. Besides, if it is that serious, then Microsoft will release a patch before long.

You know, Microsoft advised switching to another browser, at least until the patches are out. If you trust MS so much you should at least listen to their advice.

[Raz_Fox]

I just heard this from my mother. My reaction:

:eek:

Guess who is now browsin' the Playground in a shiny new Mozilla Firefox browser...

[Athaniar]

You know, Microsoft advised switching to another browser, at least until the patches are out. If you trust MS so much you should at least listen to their advice.


"I cannot recommend people switch due to this one flaw," said John Curran, head of Microsoft UK's Windows group.

It's good enough for me.

[alchemyprime]

Well, on my Desktop (really the FamComp) we only use IE and MSN. On the lappy, I'm a Chrome man through and through except for one game that only functions properly in FireFox or IE (Auditorium) and for grabbing YouTube videos (which is insanely easy on IE for me).

So I guess I'll just need to tell my dad so we can go chrome on the home compy too.

Turning Lead Internet Explorer into AWESOME Chrome-
Alchemyprime

[Recaiden]

I just switched to Firefox a few days ago, and it's much better than IE in my opinion. And has fewer security flaws in general *Switches to another tab with mouse gestures*

[Mr. Mud]

You might want to swap to Mozzilla, just for a while

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7784908.stm

Just a public service announcement...
When is my PSO up for review RSJ?

I knew yesterday (sorry) I'm suprised none of you puter afficinados has brought this up...
None of you use IE do you..

I actually just read about this on my MOZILLA latest headlines feed. Irony, Irony. Plus Mozilla has cool addons, like Mouse Gestures :smallbiggrin:. *opens new tab with flick on wrist*

[Setra]

Bah, there are always viruses. I'll keep IE as my one and only internet browser, thank you. Besides, if it is that serious, then Microsoft will release a patch before long.
It boggles the mind though, why even if there will always be virus', one would invite them in.

It's like saying there will always be sickness, then walking into a storm with no shirt.

[Mando Knight]

*opens new tab with flick on wrist*

*Opens new tab with flick of the finger*

[TSGames]

I've never understood why people like firefox that much, it seems only because it is open source. I've found browsers such as IE, Opera and even Chrome to be much more user-friendly. Could someone explain Firefox's appeal to me?

It being open source is almost enough reason in itself to prefer it to other browsers, but that is a very long discussion topic for another day.

The main(other) reasons why people like it, is because it is more secure than IE (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468665,00.html), hell, it's more secure than almost anything (http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39578379,00.htm). (Hence why I don't use Crome (http://www.google.com/chrome), I greatly prefer many of the features of Crome, but it is presently too vulnerable.) Also, the Firefox add-ons (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/) are amazing (http://www.foxytunes.com/), and the skins (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:2) are good too(you can even get one that makes it look like IE (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/internet/firefox/make-firefox-look-like-internet-explorer-7mostly-on-windows-vista/)).

In addition to that, because it is open source, you can find anything you want for it. For example, you can find a FireFox customized for the exact operating system that you're running (http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/). On-line, you can find plenty of help to overcome the common 'problems' that users have with the browser (http://forevergeek.com/open_source/make_firefox_faster.php).

The key to happiness is customization, and FireFox owns the rights to the word.(Even if only because it is open source).
O, and ChatZilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16) is nice too. ;)

[B-Man]

Certainly, thank you for your help.

Internet Explorer:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/RightHandless/InternetExplorerScreenshot.jpg

Chrome:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/RightHandless/ChromeScreenshot.jpg

The pictures have been reduced in size by Photobucket, but you can clearly see the contrast in quality between the two.

It's just plain weird. As I've mentioned before I've had no problems with any browser for rendering the comic. Maybe it's a Vista/Chrome thing for rendering GIF images? Latest video drivers on your computer?

For comparison:
Fx 3.0.5
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4144/gitpfxir6.th.png (http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4144/gitpfxir6.png)

IE 7
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1645/gitpiesc1.th.png (http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1645/gitpiesc1.png)

Chrome
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9905/gitpchvm9.th.png (http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9905/gitpchvm9.png)

[Player_Zero]

*Squints at page*

...Why would they publish that? :smallconfused:

If there's such a huge security fault then why would you announce it?

[Jack Squat]

[QUOTE=B-Man;5497845]Maybe it's a Vista/Chrome thing for rendering GIF images?

Nope, it looks fine on my laptop. Must be a fluke.

Which reminds me, I've got to take apart my laptop.

[MeklorIlavator]

*Squints at page*

...Why would they publish that? :smallconfused:

If there's such a huge security fault then why would you announce it?

So that people can change/take precautions. I think if they didn't announce it they could be liable if something bad happened.

[Player_Zero]

So that people can change/take precautions. I think if they didn't announce it they could be liable if something bad happened.

But it also alerts people of dubious morality to the fact.

Besides, I'm not so sure they're liable for much, I mean, did you read the terms and conditions?

[Fri]

I've never understood why people like firefox that much, it seems only because it is open source. I've found browsers such as IE, Opera and even Chrome to be much more user-friendly. Could someone explain Firefox's appeal to me?

someone once said that opera is like an expensive race car that's already full of gadget and everything, firefox is like a street race car that's customizable as your liking, it's kinda bare when you just got it, but you can customize it, add fenders, nitro, and everything.

[Innis Cabal]

Its effecting .2% of internet sites.

Hate Firefox. Will switch to safari before I switch to it. If it gets worse. I will.

[TSGames]

But it also alerts people of dubious morality to the fact.

Besides, I'm not so sure they're liable for much, I mean, did you read the terms and conditions?

...

.......

...........

People of "dubious morality" found the security flaws. People of "dubious morality" will always be aware of such security flaws before the general public.

Microsoft is being nice by alerting people to the vulnerabilities of their program.

[Player_Zero]

People of "dubious morality" found the security flaws. People of "dubious morality" will always be aware of such security flaws before the general public.

Microsoft is being nice by alerting people to the vulnerabilities of their program.

So every single person who could use this information for dastardly deeds will've known about it previous?

Oh well, I've been a Firefox man for years anyhow...

[TSGames]

So every single person who could use this information for dastardly deeds will've known about it previous?

Exactly.
Any good cracker is a master of information, and they network very well across the web. Any who didn't already know about the exploits(yes there are several out right now), is not a threat, and it does no harm to let them know.


IE users,
Pay attention, 'cause this concerns you.
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2232747/microsoft-plans-emergency-patch


The company issued an alert on 16 December to notify users that the update will be released on 17 December to fix a security flaw in the browser which has been actively targeted in the wild.
...
A Microsoft spokesperson told vnunet.com that the fix will be released at approximately 10am US Pacific time through the Automatic Update and Microsoft Update applications.


So... IE users should already be ghetto-rigged to resist the exploit. You can now return to your regularly scheduled browsing; there's nothing to see here, citizen.

[Reinboom]

My reasons to use FireFox:
1. WebDesign... the Error console and the DOM viewer are amazing tools. As my AJAX 'art' improves, so does firefox's use.
2. Add-ons. ColorZilla, FireFTP, AdBlock Plus, IE Tab (webdesigner, I have to try to adhere to this population), and a small word wrap toggling add on. Those are just the ones I use/are active at least once a day on average/all the time.
3. Compliance to web standards.
This is important. I hate IE users for the simple forcing that IE users must be adhered to - because IE does NOT comply with web standards. If people would stop using IE, my life would become easier.
I have to include a standardization css in every page I write to erase all default adjustments of browsers, mainly due to IE. I have to do silly hacks such as:

min-height: 560px;
height: auto !important;
height: 560px;
Because IE doesn't support min-height.

I have to force many exceptions in my javascript (fortunately, jQuery lessens this a bit) because IE doesn't want to adhere to many standard rules or functions.
Safari, Opera, FireFox, and Chrome (haven't tried many browsers outside this) all adhere to many of the standards IE decides to throw away.

Oh, and due to the topic at hand.
4. Security. :smalltongue:

Safari, Opera, and Chrome offer many of the above - just usually like one or two of them, making them "just not enough".

[Haruki-kun]

"I cannot recommend people switch due to this one flaw," said John Curran, head of Microsoft UK's Windows group.


:smallsigh:

Good thing I switched because of all the other flaws. :smalltongue:

[InaVegt]

Certainly, thank you for your help.

Internet Explorer:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/RightHandless/InternetExplorerScreenshot.jpg

Chrome:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/RightHandless/ChromeScreenshot.jpg

The pictures have been reduced in size by Photobucket, but you can clearly see the contrast in quality between the two.

Are you using a low speed connection standard with acceleration built in?

You see, that's the exact thing that happens when I turn on acceleration in my 3G (UMTS, to be precise) Internet connection. In this case, the acceleration is done by compression.

It then gives me the option to fix these images to standard format (at least, in FireFox), and it could be possible that IE doesn't support this mechanism, and that the images don't get compressed by default as a pseudo fix.

[Athaniar]

OK, I must admit this hacking thing is a bit creepy, so I think I will switch to Firefox, at least until the "2008 Internet Explorer Crisis" (as Wikipedia would call it) is over. Note that I am currently browsing this site using Firefox (but not on my home computer), and it works fine as far as I can tell.

[Checkmate]

Damn, I think I'm going to unintall Opera from my netbook and install Chrome again.

[Ravens_cry]

I only use IE for the webcomics I view. Not all webcomics auto update, and because in IE an identical name means one replaces the other in the favorites, it makes updating less messy.

[Khanderas]

I only use IE for the webcomics I view. Not all webcomics auto update, and because in IE an identical name means one replaces the other in the favorites, it makes updating less messy.
While there are several webcomics who dont have a "www.something.com/latest.html" page, the very most of them work just fine to just have the shortcut/favorite link go to "www.something.com"

Not important enough for me to actually bother with posting about, but if it is a 1 man crusade vs IE, one should atleast be adamant about it.

[Aotrs Commander]

The security patch is already out of this morning. Panic over. Assuming you panicked in the first place...

So I'll continue to use IE, as while it has it's flaws, the one time I tried Firefox (ironically because MS blocked off everyone using ZoneAlarm) I found it to be more tedious to use. (And I really don't want to have to faff about searching for plugins to make it better or what have you.)

[Oregano]

The security patch is already out of this morning. Panic over. Assuming you panicked in the first place...

So I'll continue to use IE, as while it has it's flaws, the one time I tried Firefox (ironically because MS blocked off everyone using ZoneAlarm) I found it to be more tedious to use. (And I really don't want to have to faff about searching for plugins to make it better or what have you.)

Well I bothered to download Firefox so I'm going to use it, it doesn't make that much difference anyway, they seem pretty similar. I think firefox is a little tidier(the menu bar at the top).

[Aotrs Commander]

Well I bothered to download Firefox so I'm going to use it, it doesn't make that much difference anyway, they seem pretty similar. I think firefox is a little tidier(the menu bar at the top).

I was put off by the fact the text was displayed less well and the apparent lack of a history by date (a function of IE which I abuse.) It wasn't, as I had half-expected, several orders of magnitude better than IE. I imagine there may well be plug-ins, but as all I needed was to go on to ZoneAlarm update long enough to download their fix, I decided it simply wasn't worth the effort. So after I'd done, I uninstalled it.

(That and the fact I'd have to teach my mother and grandmother to learn a new browser. Which might seem trivial to most of us, but is not for them (the former suffers from chronic fatigue and the latter is only newly a computer user and she's in her eighties; and I have to do a good chunk of technical support over the phone.).)

IE's hardly close to perfect (it is Microsoft after all), but it does the job most of the time.

[Killersquid]

Just in case anyone hasn't been convince yet, Firefox runs much faster than IE, so I would advise switching to it just for speed, the better security and awesome add-ons are icing on the cake.

[B-Man]

Well I bothered to download Firefox so I'm going to use it, it doesn't make that much difference anyway, they seem pretty similar. I think firefox is a little tidier(the menu bar at the top).

I have a mini-hack that allows the menu bar on IE 7 appear over the address bar. For proof I invite you look at my IE 7 screenshot in my post further up this page.

[Oregano]

That does look better, a lot better.

I don't know which one I'll use but I replaced all the IE shortcuts to Firefox ones on my laptop so it's likely I'll just use Firefox.:smalltongue:

[TSGames]

All you FireFox users out, check this out.
In the address bar, where you normally type web addresses, type "about:mozilla".

[Yarram]

I like Chrome, and would use it as my default browser were it not for the fact that neither it nor Firefox will correctly display the Giant in the Playground web page.

For example, having now downloaded and reinstalled Chrome, (Internet Explorer's security flaw sounding fairly dramatic,) this page displays incorrectly; the banner at the head of the page is darker than it aught to be except for a clearly defined box around the most prominent, encircled footprint logo. The headings at the left of the screen are pixelated, showing an almost camouflage pattern of dark beige and pale green atop the usual pale beige. Worst of all, the comics themselves do not display properly, comic six one six showing with severely muted colours and strewn over with small pixel like brown squares.

Obviously, I am not enamoured of using a browser that displays webpages so poorly, where Internet Explorer will display them perfectly.

Does anyone else have such problems? Is there a way that this problem can be solved?

That can be fixed by increasing your resolution, or decreasing the text size.

[Athaniar]

All you FireFox users out, check this out.
In the address bar, where you normally type web addresses, type "about:mozilla".

What in the name of the Goat With a Thousand Young is that?

Note that I do not worship ol' Goatie or any other old one/old god/elder evil. 'Twas just flavor.

Also this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-GaRKDsz-Y&feature=channel_page). No, it's not a RickRoll.

[Telonius]

Just in case anyone hasn't been convince yet, Firefox runs much faster than IE, so I would advise switching to it just for speed, the better security and awesome add-ons are icing on the cake.

You know, I've heard this claim before, but I've never noticed a difference between the two (and I do use both). Exactly how much faster is it?

(As far as add-ons - they annoy me, I don't use 'em.)

[RightHandless]

Sincere thanks to all of those who offered technical advice.

The security leak is now plugged, those of you who have automatic security updates switched to on in your Windows Security centre will already have the band aid installed, and considering my arbitrary dislike of various aspects of Chrome, I shall be returning to using Internet Explorer.

If ever I need or wish to use an alternate browser again however, they now display the pages correctly, so thank you once again.

[Madmal]

What about older versions of IE?

all of the computers of my parents office have them (in spite of my frecuent efforts to introduce FX to them :smallannoyed:) and yesterday, a virus kept bouncing against the protection of the Panda antivirus on my father's pc all day long, and the day before that the server dropped down just nthat machine...

[RTGoodman]

What about older versions of IE?

all of the computers of my parents office have them (in spite of my frecuent efforts to introduce FX to them :smallannoyed:) and yesterday, a virus kept bouncing against the protection of the Panda antivirus on my father's pc all day long, and the day before that the server dropped down just nthat machine...

Well, even Microsoft acknowledged that the security problem was for ALL version of IE, so you should definitely see about getting all those old versions updated. (I guess you'd go to the Microsoft website to check on it, but I'm not sure.)

[Ravens_cry]

Actually I find that often, Firefox works slower. It certainly takes longer to start. Still, I like it because I use a lot of forums, and the spell check is a nice option. I have never typed like a l33t n00b, and don't intend to start.

[Castaras]

And this is the reason why I am extremely annoyed at my school. :smallsigh: We weren't allowed to use anything other than IE 5 (more bearable than the horror of IE 7 layout-wise...), and you can get banned for attempting to install Firefox or Opera or something. And, of course, they didn't budge even when faced with this. :smallannoyed:

[DigoDragon]

Firefox is a Better browser (http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nf/20081217/tc_nf/63633) you say? :smallsmile: Well, that's a matter of personal opinion, but we're all entitled to that. I see Browsers like sports stars. They all think they're the best, but we know what they're doing in the off seasons. :smallwink:

[Madmal]

Firefox is a Better browser (http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nf/20081217/tc_nf/63633) you say? :smallsmile: Well, that's a matter of personal opinion, but we're all entitled to that. I see Browsers like sports stars. They all think they're the best, but we know what they're doing in the off seasons. :smallwink:

you mean getting drunk partiying? the sport stars of my country do that even in season....:smallsigh: and people get surprised why the FIFA has given us the boot...

[Fredthefighter]

Phew, I'm glad I found out about this.

[Haruki-kun]

All you FireFox users out, check this out.
In the address bar, where you normally type web addresses, type "about:mozilla".

o.O

WHAT IN THE WORLD????

[Checkmate]

o.O

WHAT IN THE WORLD????

I want to read that book....

[Setra]

Actually I find that often, Firefox works slower. It certainly takes longer to start. Still, I like it because I use a lot of forums, and the spell check is a nice option. I have never typed like a l33t n00b, and don't intend to start.
Really? I find it works much faster than IE... though I've never tried any other but those two.

I'm tempted to try Opera though since I don't actually customize Firefox at all.

[InaVegt]

o.O

WHAT IN THE WORLD????

The Book of Mozilla. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Mozilla)

[Lupy]

The Book of Mozilla. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Mozilla)

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/12/23/lupy314/f_firefoxcropm_3e008f1.png

Mammon shall be struck down! :smallbiggrin:

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And in all seriousness, be sure to use virus protection kids.

[Thiel]

Here's another reason to use Firefox.
Try typing About:Robots in the address bar.

[kriebly]

I only use IE for the webcomics I view. Not all webcomics auto update, and because in IE an identical name means one replaces the other in the favorites, it makes updating less messy.
Ironically, people browsing Keenspot-hosted webpages for their webcomics and forums with the unpatched Internet Explorer got infected due to the exploit:

http://forums.keenspace.com/viewtopic.php?f=372&t=86315

It wasn't (exactly) the fault of the Keenspot owners: it was the content being passed through via banner ads. In this case one of the ads came from a site in China that hosted the malware.

Bruce Schneier is a respected expert on computer security. I would strongly recommend that people follow his advice:

http://www.schneier.com/essay-078.html

[FdL]

Hey, now that we're at it, I have a weird thing that keeps happening to me with my Fx.

When I get to the Save File As... dialog, and with images, it usually defaults to showing miniatures of the pics already in the folder. Well, in folders that have a lot of them, whenever I click to scroll the window down, it kinda scrolls on by itself after my first click, until it reaches the bottom or I stop it.

Added to this, I also sometime get a gray panel next to the vertical scrollbar, which appears whenever I click or drag it, and covers about the size of a miniature preview in width, more than 3 in height.

Anyone get this? The skin I use is some iFox variant.

[kriebly]

Anyone get this? The skin I use is some iFox variant.
Does the problem go away if you go back to the default skin?