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Dienekes
2008-12-18, 08:45 PM
We all know how to make a Batman. So I'm trying to find something new.

How can you make the worst possible Wizard ever? How to take the arguably best class into something that would lose to an aristocrat of equal level.

Is this even possible?

Studoku
2008-12-18, 08:46 PM
Make one with 9 int.

Problem solved.

EDIT: It's fun to ninja people.

Fan
2008-12-18, 08:47 PM
Just make him a half orc with a int of 3.
Easy enough.

monty
2008-12-18, 08:47 PM
Less than 10 Int.

Alternately, a -3 Con modifier and the Frail flaw. Exactly zero max HP at every level. If you do anything, you start bleeding to death.

Edit: Semi-double-ninja'd (is that just regular ninja, then?)

Istari
2008-12-18, 08:48 PM
1. make the wizard with an int less then 10
2. give the wizard no spells/spell book

are the obvious ones that everyone will point out, but other then that your best bet is just bad spell selection or no combat or buff spells

Edit: triple ninjaed :smallsigh:

Siosilvar
2008-12-18, 08:50 PM
Less than 10 Int.

Alternately, a -3 Con modifier and the Frail flaw. Exactly zero max HP at every level.

Don't bother taking Frail as you're required to get at least one hit point per level.

Jasdoif
2008-12-18, 08:51 PM
Don't bother taking Frail as you're required to get at least one hit point per level.Except Frail makes the minimum 0 per level.

monty
2008-12-18, 08:51 PM
Don't bother taking Frail as you're required to get at least one hit point per level.

You didn't read the flaw, then.


This flaw can reduce the number of hit points you gain to 0 (but not below).

Sstoopidtallkid
2008-12-18, 08:52 PM
Assuming Int has to be at least 15(Elite Array) it is perfectly possible to screw spell selection enough to have no combat spells at any level. Scry won't exactly help you out against Axe.:smallamused: And the best part is that that character becomes full-powered with a new spellbook and 9 hours.

Or the previously mentioned Frail (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/buildingCharacters/characterFlaws.htm#frail) Grey Elf with Pathetic Con.

Vexxation
2008-12-18, 08:52 PM
Don't bother taking Frail as you're required to get at least one hit point per level.

Right, unless you have Frail.

Anyway, I'd go with Vow of Poverty. No spellbook. RAW they can supposedly tattoo their spells on their body, but if Power Word: Blind takes up seven pages, I daresay you won't fit many spells on the average body.

Studoku
2008-12-18, 08:53 PM
Don't bother taking Frail as you're required to get at least one hit point per level.

Frail

You are thin and weak of frame.
Effect

Subtract 1 from the number of hit points you gain at each level. This flaw can reduce the number of hit points you gain to 0 (but not below).
Special

You must have a Constitution of 4 or higher to take this flaw.
So it can give you 0 hp.

Triaxx
2008-12-18, 09:29 PM
Make it a blaster, duh.

Kurald Galain
2008-12-19, 03:57 AM
We all know how to make a Batman. So I'm trying to find something new.

How can you make the worst possible Wizard ever?

Just to give a novel answer here, have a really high int but take six or seven of those wizard prestige classes that don't increase casting at their first level.

Kantolin
2008-12-19, 06:06 AM
Level 10 Intelligence 18 Wizard, who's spent a decent amount of money buying scrolls or obtaining spells in some method.

~Spellbook~
Level 1: Alarm, Endure Elements, Hold Portal, Comprehend Languages, Detect Secret Doors, Tenser's Floating Disk, Erase
Level 2: Arcane Lock, Obscure Object, Continual Flame, Magic Mouth, Misdirection, Phantom Trap, Rope Trick
Level 3: Nondetection, Sepia Snake Sigil, Arcane Sight, Tongues, Leomund's Tiny Hut, Secret Page, Shrink Item
Level 4: Dimensional Anchor, Fire Trap, Minor Creation, Leomund's Secure Shelter, Detect Scrying, Rary's Mnemonic Enhancer
Level 5: Mordenkainen's Private Sanctum, Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound, Major Creation, Leomund's Secret Chest, Telepathic Bond, False Vision, Passwall, Transmute Mud to Rock

This certainly isn't a useless wizard, as he can do a heck of a lot. But it's not really someone you'd want to bring with you into a fight!

Would be amusing to play, though. An alternative is to go with sorceror, and play the sorceror who's got a pile of niftyness for things like traveling through a harsh desert (Which is where he lives), but never quite got offense or defense from his heritage - and thus took the infernal or celestial heritage from the PHB2, and can shoot Leomund's Tiny Lazers.

Mostly to say you've done it, not to be particularly meaningful about it.

Seffbasilisk
2008-12-19, 06:39 AM
Take the 'Illiterate' flaw.

BobVosh
2008-12-19, 08:46 AM
Make him refuse to touch spell components because "They are icky."

His family was cursed to be in an AMF all thier lives.

Captured by the gaurds, and the aristocrat has to judge the case.

He is dead in a game rules more by RAI. (none of this "no penalties for being dead" stuff)

1 level of wizard and 19 of monk, Hi-ho!

Collin152
2008-12-19, 03:42 PM
His spellbook is filled with nothing but Exploding Runes.
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