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    Default 3.5 D&D Trainable Animals Q.

    Hello all :)

    A few members of my normal PnP group are going away for the holidays so our GM has decided to run a short-level-1-wizards-written adventure with the idea that we make quirky characters.

    So I made a Kobold Druid specialising in tracking called Tom-Tom...
    He's going to make most use of his summoning spells for flavour, but I also want him to have some Trained animals along with him. I already have in mind a Hawk called KPS (Kobold Positioning System) and a Guard Dog, but when it comes to a Guard Dog I'm not too sure on how I would write up the stats? Yes it's a Dog for all intensive purposes, but it's also 'trained for war' since its Tricks are attack based, so would it have the stats for a Riding Dog (already have one as my animal companion) or for a regular dog?

    Also is there anything anyone would suggest for either now or later on? I guess my Kobold is more of a zoo keeper than a Druid.

    Thanks in advance :)

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    Default Re: 3.5 D&D Trainable Animals Q.

    Quote Originally Posted by SRD
    This category includes working breeds such as collies, huskies, and St. Bernards.
    Carrying Capacity: A light load for a riding dog is up to 100 pounds; a medium load, 101200 pounds; and a heavy load, 201300 pounds. A riding dog can drag 1,500 pounds.
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    If trained for war, these animals can make trip attacks just as wolves do (see the Wolf entry). A riding dog can fight while carrying a rider, but the rider cannot also attack unless he or she succeeds on a Ride check.
    for emphasis
    Riding dog with the wolf's trip attack.
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    Default Re: 3.5 D&D Trainable Animals Q.

    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy80 View Post
    for emphasis
    Riding dog with the wolf's trip attack.
    Yes but I'm not having a Riding Dog other than my animal companion, I'm having a Guard Dog that isn't trained to carry anyone. A Guard Dog itself is mentioned in the SRD (above riding dog iirc) but it does not give stats for it, so I wondered if it used the riding dog stats or the normal dog stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelOmnipotent View Post
    Yes but I'm not having a Riding Dog other than my animal companion, I'm having a Guard Dog that isn't trained to carry anyone. A Guard Dog itself is mentioned in the SRD (above riding dog iirc) but it does not give stats for it, so I wondered if it used the riding dog stats or the normal dog stats.
    I'd ask your DM. If I were your DM, however, I'd use the riding dog stats.

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    That would seem reasonable, I had one dm that used the regular domestic dog stats. Not worth the money, Until the druid awakened it and it became a monk dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Stabber View Post
    That would seem reasonable, I had one dm that used the regular domestic dog stats. Not worth the money, Until the druid awakened it and it became a monk dog.
    Oh you've just given me a nice idea :D
    However I think I'll ask the DM for the Riding Dog stats just without the ability to trip, since for 25g I could buy 3 with my starting gold and that would be a bit silly. I'd be running around naked with no weapon but nothing would be standing up long enough to bother me anyway.

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    Remember, though you may be a Kobold, you're still a Druid and you don't really NEED a weapon. You are a weapon, and one from level 1, unlike a Wizzard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelOmnipotent View Post
    Yes but I'm not having a Riding Dog other than my animal companion, I'm having a Guard Dog that isn't trained to carry anyone. A Guard Dog itself is mentioned in the SRD (above riding dog iirc) but it does not give stats for it, so I wondered if it used the riding dog stats or the normal dog stats.
    Not in my copy of the SRD
    Quote Originally Posted by SRD
    DOG
    Small Animal
    ....
    The statistics presented here describe a fairly small dog of about 20 to 50 pounds in weight. They also can be used for small wild canines such as coyotes, jackals, and African wild dogs.
    Combat
    Dogs generally hunt in packs, chasing and exhausting prey until they can drag it down.
    Skills: Dogs have a +4 racial bonus on Jump checks. *Dogs have a +4 racial bonus on Survival checks when tracking by scent.

    DOG, RIDING
    Medium Animal
    ...
    This category includes working breeds such as collies, huskies, and St. Bernards.
    Carrying Capacity: A light load for a riding dog is up to 100 pounds; a medium load, 101200 pounds; and a heavy load, 201300 pounds. A riding dog can drag 1,500 pounds.
    Combat
    If trained for war, these animals can make trip attacks just as wolves do (see the Wolf entry). A riding dog can fight while carrying a rider, but the rider cannot also attack unless he or she succeeds on a Ride check.
    Skills: Riding dogs have a +4 racial bonus on Jump checks. *Riding dogs have a +4 racial bonus on Survival checks when tracking by scent.
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    Riding dogs includes guard dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy80 View Post
    Not in my copy of the SRD
    Try looking at other places than the Riding Dog entry and you might see it in "your" SRD. It's under Goods and Services in the Mounts and Related Gear table. It gives the prices for a Guard Dog but no other information, which is why I was asking in the first place. I wasn't asking for a smart-ass reply assuming that I can't read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triaxx View Post
    Remember, though you may be a Kobold, you're still a Druid and you don't really NEED a weapon. You are a weapon, and one from level 1, unlike a Wizzard.
    Not with 8 Strength I'm not. I only have my animal companion, summoned monsters and these bought trained animals at my disposal. Unfortunately Druids don't get many spells at level 1.

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